Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
- sarajevac071
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#1401 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
... i šta bi
ko ga smjesti djeda mrazu ( da prostite na izrazu )
skontajte se pa recite da se zaljuča napokon ova tema i da idem na spavanje
razvuklo se brate ko meksička sapunica
ko ga smjesti djeda mrazu ( da prostite na izrazu )
skontajte se pa recite da se zaljuča napokon ova tema i da idem na spavanje
razvuklo se brate ko meksička sapunica
- HAVANA
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#1402 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
sarajevac071 wrote:... i šta bi
ko ga smjesti djeda mrazu ( da prostite na izrazu )
skontajte se pa recite da se zaljuča napokon ova tema i da idem na spavanje
razvuklo se brate ko meksička sapunica
Arzija, na hinjaka.
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LSD
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#1403 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
Zašto zatvarati ovaj prekrasni poligon za izbacivanje licnih frustracija kroz pricu o Djeda Mrazu...ovo je vrlo bitna tema za svakog gradjanina Sarajeva...od vitalnog znacaja...NE TREBAJU NAM FABRIKE NI NOVA RADNA MJESTA-SAMO NE DAMO DJEDA MRAZA!! (predlažem ovu parolu)...majke i ocevi su zabrinuti za sudbinu Djeda Mraza,ali ne zbog njega samog (jer znaju da je sam djed fikcija) vec zbog njihove djece i paketica,iako ga mogu svaki dan kupiti ali bolje je da Djeda Mraz to odradi...roditeljska briga (ko fol),principi,demokratija,teokratija,pokrivene žene,dvostruki standardi,moralisanje itd-sve je na ovoj temi koja se samo krije iza Djeda Mraza...i to sa stavom "danas djeda Mraz a sutra ja ili moje djete"..."ne damo djeda Mraza radi djece"...baš kao da je djed Mraz i njegovi paketici jedina sreca za njihovu djecu u toku godine (tj.jedanput u godini)...eto ti roditelja...nidje veze.sarajevac071 wrote:... i šta bi
ko ga smjesti djeda mrazu ( da prostite na izrazu )
skontajte se pa recite da se zaljuča napokon ova tema i da idem na spavanje
razvuklo se brate ko meksička sapunica
Ali najbitnije u svemu je ovo sataniziranje Arzije Mahmutovic...ova tema je odlican ventil da se baca drek na tu ženu...uveže se odmah prica i o vjeronauci i ode to u nepovrat.
- travar
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#1404 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
A lika,sarajevac071 wrote:... i šta bi
ko ga smjesti djeda mrazu ( da prostite na izrazu )
skontajte se pa recite da se zaljuča napokon ova tema i da idem na spavanje
razvuklo se brate ko meksička sapunica
Esmeralda još nije ni progledala a ti bi da zatvaraš
- black
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#1405 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
shta ma hajde..? to ti meni nestoshuriken wrote:
ma hajde?
klerofasisti podrzavaju jedni druge u naporima da indoktriniraju predskolsku djecu?
turboekskluzivno!!
jos ce ispast da je nas sistem oligoteokracija koja ima vanjsku formu demokracije
- shuriken
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#1406 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
izvini, mislio sam da se cudis, to je stara informacija da se sve vjerske zajednice slazu sa uvodjenjem vjeronauke za sitnu djecu i da su stranke na vlasti koje ih bespogovorno slusaju donijele zakone i propise koje to omogucujublack wrote:shta ma hajde..? to ti meni nestoshuriken wrote:
ma hajde?
klerofasisti podrzavaju jedni druge u naporima da indoktriniraju predskolsku djecu?
turboekskluzivno!!
jos ce ispast da je nas sistem oligoteokracija koja ima vanjsku formu demokracije
- d700
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#1407 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
Naravno...shuriken wrote:....
klerofasisti podrzavaju jedni druge u naporima da indoktriniraju predskolsku djecu?
turboekskluzivno!!
jos ce ispast da je nas sistem oligoteokracija koja ima vanjsku formu demokracije
sad ce covijek (Puljic) moze uvesti vjeronauku od Kiseljaka do Citluka po istom principu kao u Sarajevu, da se vec od malih nogu zna ko je ko. A kada DM naleti, onda ce bosnjacima shipak a hrvatima pokloni....bosanski "policial correctness" ?
- HAVANA
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#1408 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
LSD wrote:Zašto zatvarati ovaj prekrasni poligon za izbacivanje licnih frustracija kroz pricu o Djeda Mrazu...ovo je vrlo bitna tema za svakog gradjanina Sarajeva...od vitalnog znacaja...NE TREBAJU NAM FABRIKE NI NOVA RADNA MJESTA-SAMO NE DAMO DJEDA MRAZA!! (predlažem ovu parolu)...majke i ocevi su zabrinuti za sudbinu Djeda Mraza,ali ne zbog njega samog (jer znaju da je sam djed fikcija) vec zbog njihove djece i paketica,iako ga mogu svaki dan kupiti ali bolje je da Djeda Mraz to odradi...roditeljska briga (ko fol),principi,demokratija,teokratija,pokrivene žene,dvostruki standardi,moralisanje itd-sve je na ovoj temi koja se samo krije iza Djeda Mraza...i to sa stavom "danas djeda Mraz a sutra ja ili moje djete"..."ne damo djeda Mraza radi djece"...baš kao da je djed Mraz i njegovi paketici jedina sreca za njihovu djecu u toku godine (tj.jedanput u godini)...eto ti roditelja...nidje veze.sarajevac071 wrote:... i šta bi
ko ga smjesti djeda mrazu ( da prostite na izrazu )
skontajte se pa recite da se zaljuča napokon ova tema i da idem na spavanje
razvuklo se brate ko meksička sapunica
Ali najbitnije u svemu je ovo sataniziranje Arzije Mahmutovic...ova tema je odlican ventil da se baca drek na tu ženu...uveže se odmah prica i o vjeronauci i ode to u nepovrat.
Ne znam ko ovde izbacuje frustracije,mi samo hoćemo da naša djeca u vrtiću dobiju paketiće a to se prošle godine nije desilo. Izbjegnuto je na jedan hinjski način tako da je normalno da ove godine pokušamo ostvariti tu malu radost za našu djecu.Kome smeta ne mora primiti paketić i ako on misli da je to dobro za njegovo dijete OK.Fabrike i nova radna mjesta nam naravno trebaju a Deda Mraz nema nikakve veze sa tim.Nek efendija napravi fabriku umjesto silnih miliona koje će skršiti na kovačima.Što se tiče naše djece,morala i njihove sreće nemoj se brinuti jer su 365 dana u godini okruženi ljubavlju i svim onim dobrim čemu pokušavamo da ih naučimo a to sigurno nećemo postići zabranama i odvajanjem od njihovih vršnjaka drugačijeg imena.
Sto puta vam pokušamo nešto objasniti normalnim načinom ali vi i dalje provocirate pa se moram ugristi za jezik da me PAPE i MIRĆERKA ne zaganjaju.
Arzija me ne interesuje,samo neka ne pokušava ni ona niti iko drugi da utiče na moje dijete.Mama i Tata će odrediti šta oni smiju a šta ne.
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#1409 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
ma to sam samo kopiro vijest citajuci papetov post..shuriken wrote:
izvini, mislio sam da se cudis, to je stara informacija da se sve vjerske zajednice slazu sa uvodjenjem vjeronauke za sitnu djecu i da su stranke na vlasti koje ih bespogovorno slusaju donijele zakone i propise koje to omogucuju
a mene vala vise nista ne cudi u ovoj zemlji
ja vjerujem u Boga ali sam protiv uvodjenja vjeronauke u vrtice, i fakat mi nisu jasni ljudi koji to guraju, pa sam Poslanik je rekao da se djeca do 7 godine iskljucivo prepuste igri ...
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#1410 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
The Myth of Santa--Not So Harmless
by Pat Goltz
Christian parents widely practice the custom of teaching their children about Santa Claus: that he exists and gives them gifts for Christmas. Some parents think that it is harmless fun and some think that valuable lessons about giving are being taught in this way. Parents are really unintentionally teaching children to think that some being they have never met indulges their wants. It is debatable that this really teaches the spirit of giving. Some parents also think that they are teaching their children valuable lessons about behaving. But what they are really teaching their children is that God's love is conditional. They are teaching that we earn our salvation and that it is not a free gift from Jesus, Who died on the cross for our sins and paid the total price Himself.
As a person educated and experienced in Montessori, I learned that children would rather be grounded in reality than myth. Children expect their parents to tell them the truth. They trust their parents. They know that their parents have the wisdom they lack. They depend on their parents to teach them the rules, which is why children who are not properly disciplined will push the limits. They want to be taught, and it gives them great insecurity if they're not.
I remember one time when I was observing in a traditional preschool. One of the children decided to dress up for pretend. A teacher was standing nearby, and it appeared that the child wasn't sure which costume to select. The teacher told the child, "sometimes it's hard to decide which one to choose, isn't it?" I then observed the child off by himself saying quietly, "It's hard to decide; it's hard to decide." That teacher sowed the seeds of indecisiveness in that child, and didn't even know it. After selecting a costume, the child put it on and began his pretend, but the first thing you know, that same teacher had intruded in on things, and basically took over the whole thing, and the pretend that happened next was constructed by the teacher, not the child. We do the same thing when we teach Santa Claus. It is vitally important that we allow children to design their own pretends. Not only is this more honest, and allows the child to learn clearly the difference between fact and myth, but it greatly enhances creativity. Children engage in myth on their own knowing that is what it is. They do it to learn how to be creative, and to help them cope with life, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, because it teaches hope. And children who are grounded in reality by their parents won't make the mistake of thinking that their fantasies are real. But when we intrude, then all of these valuable lessons are lost. We do this in the name of other lessons of questionable value that we might not even be teaching. We should never seek to live vicariously through our children in such a fashion. If our own skills at imagination and creativity were stunted by our parents, this is no excuse for stunting those of our children in turn.
There's something that many Christians are missing about the issue of Santa Claus. That's the fact that parents are deliberately lying to their children (and their children usually believe and trust their parents on this issue), and when the children discover that it was a lie, many of them will refuse to trust their parents on the issue of Christ and the Bible. They'll label that a lie as well. As they say, "There's no believing a liar, even when he is telling the truth." We don't do a service to our children when we lie, even in fun, and lying (except to protect innocent human beings from death at the hands of tyrants) is a sin, and the mere fact that parents do it in fun or because they think it is good for children, or that they want to teach life's lessons (which is what the Bible is for!) or for any other supposedly good reason, is still lying. It is still deceiving children. And the notion that lying to teach valuable lessons, or for any other such reason, is acceptable, is nothing more than pure situation ethics. It is anti-biblical.
I am so glad my parents never taught me about Santa Claus. They taught me that people believe in him, but it's only a myth. And besides, the only Person we are to believe in is God. He is the Source of all our blessings. And He wants children to honor their parents. Knowing that what they need or desire comes from their parents is helpful. My parents made doubly sure that we didn't believe in Santa Claus by having our Christmas celebration on Christmas Eve. This was common practice in the German community where my mother grew up, and it was the reason for it, as far as I can determine.
In the book Faith of the Fatherless, Paul C. Vitz writes that people whose fathers are abusive or absent find it hard to believe in God as our Father. Most prominent atheists had absent or abusive fathers, and most prominent Christian thinkers had loving fathers. Are we doing children a disservice by teaching them that their Christmas gifts come from a stranger instead of from their own loving father? And what are we doing to children who visit "Santa" in a shopping mall and find him frightening? What is that teaching our children about our loving Heavenly Father? And most parents know that some children find "Santa" frightening. By the time they discover their own child is afraid of "Santa", their child has already been traumatized. What are they teaching their children about their willingness to protect their children when they insist that their children visit "Santa"? And what does that teach the children about God's protection?
And what are we doing to our children's political views when we teach that our needs come from some remote sugar daddy? Isn't this the perfect prescription for accepting socialism, which means government providing for us?
Finally, if we can give the credit for our Christmas gifts to some myth that had nothing to do with them, then is it such a far stretch that we can give the credit for the creation of life to evolution instead of God? The education in faulty logic here has widespread implications.
The public schools usually promote Santa in some way. This is a religious exercise. Santa requires faith. So this is a violation of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. But the schools get away with it because Christians are silent, just as they get away with promoting Halloween.
If we as Christians are going to prevent the infringement of our religion in the public schools and in other arenas, we must first start by understanding the way in which we infringe our religion ourselves. And if we are going to pass on our Christian faith to our children, we need to be consistent. If we lie to our children, and then tell them lying is wrong (and some parents will even say this to children who are constructing their own myths and then telling each other that this is the truth, or who tell whoppers otherwise), we are being hypocritical. And in the final analysis, we have just sowed the seeds of destruction of faith in our children.
Think about it.
by Pat Goltz
Christian parents widely practice the custom of teaching their children about Santa Claus: that he exists and gives them gifts for Christmas. Some parents think that it is harmless fun and some think that valuable lessons about giving are being taught in this way. Parents are really unintentionally teaching children to think that some being they have never met indulges their wants. It is debatable that this really teaches the spirit of giving. Some parents also think that they are teaching their children valuable lessons about behaving. But what they are really teaching their children is that God's love is conditional. They are teaching that we earn our salvation and that it is not a free gift from Jesus, Who died on the cross for our sins and paid the total price Himself.
As a person educated and experienced in Montessori, I learned that children would rather be grounded in reality than myth. Children expect their parents to tell them the truth. They trust their parents. They know that their parents have the wisdom they lack. They depend on their parents to teach them the rules, which is why children who are not properly disciplined will push the limits. They want to be taught, and it gives them great insecurity if they're not.
I remember one time when I was observing in a traditional preschool. One of the children decided to dress up for pretend. A teacher was standing nearby, and it appeared that the child wasn't sure which costume to select. The teacher told the child, "sometimes it's hard to decide which one to choose, isn't it?" I then observed the child off by himself saying quietly, "It's hard to decide; it's hard to decide." That teacher sowed the seeds of indecisiveness in that child, and didn't even know it. After selecting a costume, the child put it on and began his pretend, but the first thing you know, that same teacher had intruded in on things, and basically took over the whole thing, and the pretend that happened next was constructed by the teacher, not the child. We do the same thing when we teach Santa Claus. It is vitally important that we allow children to design their own pretends. Not only is this more honest, and allows the child to learn clearly the difference between fact and myth, but it greatly enhances creativity. Children engage in myth on their own knowing that is what it is. They do it to learn how to be creative, and to help them cope with life, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, because it teaches hope. And children who are grounded in reality by their parents won't make the mistake of thinking that their fantasies are real. But when we intrude, then all of these valuable lessons are lost. We do this in the name of other lessons of questionable value that we might not even be teaching. We should never seek to live vicariously through our children in such a fashion. If our own skills at imagination and creativity were stunted by our parents, this is no excuse for stunting those of our children in turn.
There's something that many Christians are missing about the issue of Santa Claus. That's the fact that parents are deliberately lying to their children (and their children usually believe and trust their parents on this issue), and when the children discover that it was a lie, many of them will refuse to trust their parents on the issue of Christ and the Bible. They'll label that a lie as well. As they say, "There's no believing a liar, even when he is telling the truth." We don't do a service to our children when we lie, even in fun, and lying (except to protect innocent human beings from death at the hands of tyrants) is a sin, and the mere fact that parents do it in fun or because they think it is good for children, or that they want to teach life's lessons (which is what the Bible is for!) or for any other supposedly good reason, is still lying. It is still deceiving children. And the notion that lying to teach valuable lessons, or for any other such reason, is acceptable, is nothing more than pure situation ethics. It is anti-biblical.
I am so glad my parents never taught me about Santa Claus. They taught me that people believe in him, but it's only a myth. And besides, the only Person we are to believe in is God. He is the Source of all our blessings. And He wants children to honor their parents. Knowing that what they need or desire comes from their parents is helpful. My parents made doubly sure that we didn't believe in Santa Claus by having our Christmas celebration on Christmas Eve. This was common practice in the German community where my mother grew up, and it was the reason for it, as far as I can determine.
In the book Faith of the Fatherless, Paul C. Vitz writes that people whose fathers are abusive or absent find it hard to believe in God as our Father. Most prominent atheists had absent or abusive fathers, and most prominent Christian thinkers had loving fathers. Are we doing children a disservice by teaching them that their Christmas gifts come from a stranger instead of from their own loving father? And what are we doing to children who visit "Santa" in a shopping mall and find him frightening? What is that teaching our children about our loving Heavenly Father? And most parents know that some children find "Santa" frightening. By the time they discover their own child is afraid of "Santa", their child has already been traumatized. What are they teaching their children about their willingness to protect their children when they insist that their children visit "Santa"? And what does that teach the children about God's protection?
And what are we doing to our children's political views when we teach that our needs come from some remote sugar daddy? Isn't this the perfect prescription for accepting socialism, which means government providing for us?
Finally, if we can give the credit for our Christmas gifts to some myth that had nothing to do with them, then is it such a far stretch that we can give the credit for the creation of life to evolution instead of God? The education in faulty logic here has widespread implications.
The public schools usually promote Santa in some way. This is a religious exercise. Santa requires faith. So this is a violation of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. But the schools get away with it because Christians are silent, just as they get away with promoting Halloween.
If we as Christians are going to prevent the infringement of our religion in the public schools and in other arenas, we must first start by understanding the way in which we infringe our religion ourselves. And if we are going to pass on our Christian faith to our children, we need to be consistent. If we lie to our children, and then tell them lying is wrong (and some parents will even say this to children who are constructing their own myths and then telling each other that this is the truth, or who tell whoppers otherwise), we are being hypocritical. And in the final analysis, we have just sowed the seeds of destruction of faith in our children.
Think about it.
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#1411 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
Ipak istina i povjerenje je važnije od slatkiša. Tekst je pravo dobar.zaratustra wrote:The Myth of Santa--Not So Harmless
by Pat Goltz
There's something that many Christians are missing about the issue of Santa Claus. That's the fact that parents are deliberately lying to their children (and their children usually believe and trust their parents on this issue), and when the children discover that it was a lie, many of them will refuse to trust their parents on the issue of Christ and the Bible.
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Most prominent atheists had absent or abusive fathers, and most prominent Christian thinkers had loving fathers. Are we doing children a disservice by teaching them that their Christmas gifts come from a stranger instead of from their own loving father?
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#1412 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
Kmeeeeeee upravo sam saznaod a Djed Mraz ne postoji
(((((((((((
beeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppp
1) Djed mraz kakv je sad je izmislila coca-cola
2) sveti Nikola je postojao tako da ne lazu djeci
3) Najveca laz koju djeci kazu je da Bog postoji
Meni je veca prevara bila kad sam vidio mamu kako mi stavlja cokoladu pod jastuk (pod kojim je bio zub) a da nema djeda mraza vremenom sam skontas al tad si vec dovoljno odrastao. Sto se njega tice bar se imas necem radovati i razlog vishe da dobijes poklone a svi volimo poklone
beeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppp
1) Djed mraz kakv je sad je izmislila coca-cola
2) sveti Nikola je postojao tako da ne lazu djeci
3) Najveca laz koju djeci kazu je da Bog postoji
Meni je veca prevara bila kad sam vidio mamu kako mi stavlja cokoladu pod jastuk (pod kojim je bio zub) a da nema djeda mraza vremenom sam skontas al tad si vec dovoljno odrastao. Sto se njega tice bar se imas necem radovati i razlog vishe da dobijes poklone a svi volimo poklone
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#1413 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
Prvo bih te pitao jeli tebi normalno da se muškarac oblači u crveno? I drugo, ako je laž da postoji Bog Uzvišeni, a nije jer On zaista postoji i moderna nauka je to dokazala, kako onda sada tipkaš na tastaturi ako si "nestvoren"? Kako ti se srce u grudima svake sekunde grči i opušta samo od sebe, a znamo da ne postoji "perpetum mobile", ako nema nešto što ga pokreće?Bolonjac wrote:Kmeeeeeee upravo sam saznaod a Djed Mraz ne postoji(((((((((((
beeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppp
1) Djed mraz kakv je sad je izmislila coca-cola
2) sveti Nikola je postojao tako da ne lazu djeci
3) Najveca laz koju djeci kazu je da Bog postoji
Meni je veca prevara bila kad sam vidio mamu kako mi stavlja cokoladu pod jastuk (pod kojim je bio zub) a da nema djeda mraza vremenom sam skontas al tad si vec dovoljno odrastao. Sto se njega tice bar se imas necem radovati i razlog vishe da dobijes poklone a svi volimo poklone
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Bolonjac
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#1414 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
meni se ne grci svake sekunde imam aritmiju
cak ponekad zastane 
A sto se naucnih dokaza tice lol
a to nema nikakve veze sa naukom 
OFFTOPIC ono je sala bila(za laz djeci da nema Boga) a diskusija ima li Boga nije tema nase emisije
A sto se naucnih dokaza tice lol
ti to ozbiljno ? i da jeste tako najlakse je naravno sve sto je neobjasnjivo pripisati BoguKako ti se srce u grudima svake sekunde grči i opušta samo od sebe, a znamo da ne postoji "perpetum mobile", ako nema nešto što ga pokreće?
OFFTOPIC ono je sala bila(za laz djeci da nema Boga) a diskusija ima li Boga nije tema nase emisije
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- amrica
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#1415 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
Problem je sto muskarac oblaci u crveno?
Mora da ima veze sa queer-ovcima.
A onda su fudbaleri Machestera plaho sumnjivi, sta oni imaju nositi crvene dresove...
A i FK Sarajevo tukne na crvenu...
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#1416 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
Zato samo treba navijati za Želju jer je pravi narodni klub ...amrica wrote:![]()
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Problem je sto muskarac oblaci u crveno?![]()
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Mora da ima veze sa queer-ovcima.
A onda su fudbaleri Machestera plaho sumnjivi, sta oni imaju nositi crvene dresove...
A i FK Sarajevo tukne na crvenu...
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#1417 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
Ima jos jedan dio tvog posta koji me interesira, da mi objasnis:
"jer On zaista postoji i moderna nauka je to dokazala, "
Koja moderna nauka? Kad, kako, gdje, ....
"jer On zaista postoji i moderna nauka je to dokazala, "
Koja moderna nauka? Kad, kako, gdje, ....
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#1418 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
pa teoLOGIJA - i to je nauka
zasad se postanak svijeta pripisuje Bogu, ali sta ako ovi iz CERN-a kroz par mjeseci eksperimentalno dokazu da je stvarno bio 'veliki prasak' ?
zasad se postanak svijeta pripisuje Bogu, ali sta ako ovi iz CERN-a kroz par mjeseci eksperimentalno dokazu da je stvarno bio 'veliki prasak' ?
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#1419 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
Nije tema ali pošto je ovo ionako otišlo u helać:convict wrote:pa teoLOGIJA - i to je nauka
zasad se postanak svijeta pripisuje Bogu, ali sta ako ovi iz CERN-a kroz par mjeseci eksperimentalno dokazu da je stvarno bio 'veliki prasak' ?
Kako Big Bang negira postojanje Boga!?
- amrica
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#1420 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
istocnjak napisao MODERNA nauka....
teologija jeste logija, ali nije moderna nauka u punom smislu te rieci.
U vjeri je osnovni postulat:
Prihvati bez pogovora i bez prigovora, nema tu nauke.
A to je sve bezze u odnosu na srecu jednog djeteta kad se raduje paketicu.
I svi veliki branitelji vjere, a mrzitelji Djeda Mraza, a koliko vidim svi se formalno teoLOSKI neobrazovani, nego ste samo priuceni, ne znate pricu od prije par dana.
Grupa vjerski obrazovanih ljudi (zavrsili FIN, profesori teologije) su posjetili bolnicu Kosevo, pedijatriju, i odnijeli paketice Bajaramske, i kad je tamo neko pitao sta sa onom drugom djecom: oni su rekli da su sva djeca ista, da svakome treba malo radosti, da ce svako dijete dobiti paketic, da ne smije biti "odbacenih"....
I tu je osnovna razlika izmedju obrazovanih i neobrazovanih, obrazovani prihvataju razlicitosti, a neobrazovani, zatoceni u svom malom svijetu dogmi mrze sve sto im izgleda drugacije...
teologija jeste logija, ali nije moderna nauka u punom smislu te rieci.
U vjeri je osnovni postulat:
Prihvati bez pogovora i bez prigovora, nema tu nauke.
A to je sve bezze u odnosu na srecu jednog djeteta kad se raduje paketicu.
I svi veliki branitelji vjere, a mrzitelji Djeda Mraza, a koliko vidim svi se formalno teoLOSKI neobrazovani, nego ste samo priuceni, ne znate pricu od prije par dana.
Grupa vjerski obrazovanih ljudi (zavrsili FIN, profesori teologije) su posjetili bolnicu Kosevo, pedijatriju, i odnijeli paketice Bajaramske, i kad je tamo neko pitao sta sa onom drugom djecom: oni su rekli da su sva djeca ista, da svakome treba malo radosti, da ce svako dijete dobiti paketic, da ne smije biti "odbacenih"....
I tu je osnovna razlika izmedju obrazovanih i neobrazovanih, obrazovani prihvataju razlicitosti, a neobrazovani, zatoceni u svom malom svijetu dogmi mrze sve sto im izgleda drugacije...
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#1421 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
Ako imalo drzis do vjere, nemoj je vise brukati. Napravio si vise stete islamu od bilo kojeg nevjernika sa ovakvim izjavama.istocnjak wrote:
Prvo bih te pitao jeli tebi normalno da se muškarac oblači u crveno? I drugo, ako je laž da postoji Bog Uzvišeni, a nije jer On zaista postoji i moderna nauka je to dokazala, kako onda sada tipkaš na tastaturi ako si "nestvoren"? Kako ti se srce u grudima svake sekunde grči i opušta samo od sebe, a znamo da ne postoji "perpetum mobile", ako nema nešto što ga pokreće?
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#1422 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
istocnjak wrote:
Prvo bih te pitao jeli tebi normalno da se muškarac oblači u crveno? I drugo, ako je laž da postoji Bog Uzvišeni, a nije jer On zaista postoji i moderna nauka je to dokazala, kako onda sada tipkaš na tastaturi ako si "nestvoren"? Kako ti se srce u grudima svake sekunde grči i opušta samo od sebe, a znamo da ne postoji "perpetum mobile", ako nema nešto što ga pokreće?
Toliku količinu gluposti kao u tvojim postovima nisam još nigdje pročitao.
Pokreni ti u sebi malo ljudskosti i poštovanja prema drugom i drugačijem a srce nek ti se zgrči kad vidiš djecu koja pate i traže pomoć za liječenje a opustiće se kad im pomogneš.I ako to uradiš uradi to ne u ime tvog gospodara nego iskreno iz dubine duše.
Evo ja u farmerkama, crvenoj jakni i džemperu odoh na posao ,valjda me neće niko napast
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#1423 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
istocnjak wrote:
Prvo bih te pitao jeli tebi normalno da se muškarac oblači u crveno? I drugo, ako je laž da postoji Bog Uzvišeni, a nije jer On zaista postoji i moderna nauka je to dokazala, kako onda sada tipkaš na tastaturi ako si "nestvoren"? Kako ti se srce u grudima svake sekunde grči i opušta samo od sebe, a znamo da ne postoji "perpetum mobile", ako nema nešto što ga pokreće?
Moze jedan dogovor?
Obzirom da se srce grči samo od sebe i da je to perpetuum mobile (dva u) i dokaz da postoji Bog, jel bi mogao ti prestati jesti i piti jedno mjesec dana?
CIsto da vidimo je li samo od sebe ili je to misic koji treba energiju koju dobiva kroz hranu i tekucinu koja transportira tu energiju i odvodi stetne tvari koje misic generira.
Ako ti srce bude i dalje kucalo Boga ima, i svi postajemo vjernici.
Ako ne bude, treba otpustiti profesore koji su ti predavali u skoli, ako si u istu isao, i optuziti ih zbog ubojstva iz nehata.
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#1424 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
po meni ne negira, (isto kao i evolucija) ali većina vjernika koje ja znam misli suprotno i izruguje se velikom prasku. ja imam svoje argumente zašto ne vjerujem u boga u klasičnom smislu te riječi, ali evolucija ni veliki prasak nisu među njimatravar wrote: Kako Big Bang negira postojanje Boga!?
veliki prasak je činjenica, naravno istina je da jako mnogo stvari o njemu ne znamo, ali ako se sve u svemiru ubrzano udaljava jedno od drugog...ne treba biti genijalac pa zaključiti da je prije bilo bliže.
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#1425 Re: Ko je smjestio Deda Mrazu
Može pitanje?
Šta uopšte govori ovakav razvoj teme ?...ja stvarno ne kontam,bar na prvi pogled-nakon par dana odsustva- ne zamjerite...
