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We either learn to accept our differences and live together or the borders of today's Middle East will have to be redrawn in blood.

The problem is the sectarian ignorance in the Middle East. Shi'a won't stop dying as long as tens of millions of Sunnis see us as kuffar.

Tens of thousands of Sunnis in #Iraq are fighting Da'ish. Most of the Syrian army is Sunni. Salafi jihadism targets all of us.

Sunni Muslims are our brothers and suffer just as much as we do. This isn't a Shi'a vs. Sunni war. It's a Shi'a/Sunni vs. Salafism war.

Shi'a from Bahrain to Saudi to Egypt are marginalised by their governments. When was the last time a Shi'i suicide bomber blew up a market?

salik79 wrote:Danas prelijepe vijesti iz Iraka. Isil kopni, mrtvi teroristi se broje u stotinama, juzni dio Mosula u potpunosti oslobodjen...a, s druge strane, na Kerbeli 20-tak miliona (erbein/ 40-nica, prijenos uzivo) ljudi iz cijeloga svijeta, hrle u zijaret Imamu Huseinu a.s., muslimani (siiti i suniti), krscani i svi slobodo- i pravdoljubivi ljudi sa svih meridijana zemaljske kugle...MasaAllah

insomnia78 wrote:Dok su se ovakvi raznosili medju Židovima nije se ni kod šija vidjela naznaka te cuvene evolucije. I danas Iran podrzava i sponzorira Hezbolah a ovaj opet napade po Izraelu al kad meta nisu muslimani onda se tu lakse zazmiri na evolutivni korak nazad

salik79 wrote:

insomnia78 wrote:Dok su se ovakvi raznosili medju Židovima nije se ni kod šija vidjela naznaka te cuvene evolucije. I danas Iran podrzava i sponzorira Hezbolah a ovaj opet napade po Izraelu al kad meta nisu muslimani onda se tu lakse zazmiri na evolutivni korak nazad

Hizbullah redovno tambura IDF teroriste i to je ono sto vas boli. I to ih tambura na svom teritoriju, a ne izvan.

insomnia78 wrote:

salik79 wrote:

insomnia78 wrote:Dok su se ovakvi raznosili medju Židovima nije se ni kod šija vidjela naznaka te cuvene evolucije. I danas Iran podrzava i sponzorira Hezbolah a ovaj opet napade po Izraelu al kad meta nisu muslimani onda se tu lakse zazmiri na evolutivni korak nazad

Hizbullah redovno tambura IDF teroriste i to je ono sto vas boli. I to ih tambura na svom teritoriju, a ne izvan.

Jest, jest. Nema sta drugo biti. Onaj sto je kundakom razmrsko glavu cetverogodisnje jevrejske djevojcice je heroj. Primali ga predsjednici od Libana preko Sirije pa do Irana.

Iraq’s parliament approved a law today that will confirm Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi’s earlier decision that will make the Popular Mobilisation forces (PMF), a mostly Iranian-backed coalition of Shia militias that played a role in fighting Daesh, into a legal and separate military corps.

Disagreements over the Shia paramilitary units are complicating efforts to pull Iraq together as forces battle to defeat Daesh, the ultra-hardline extremist group that overran a third of the country in 2014, proclaiming a “caliphate” that spans parts of Iraq and neighbouring Syria.

All the Shia blocs in parliament voted for the bill in a session boycotted by lawmakers from the Sunni population who object to the existence of armed forces outside the army and police.

This is particularly that Iran’s influence is clear in the PMF, and there have been credible reports that the PMF intends to morph into the Iraqi version of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), which is a military structure that stands in parallel to the Iranian army.

Such an IRGC-like structure would mean that the PMF, like its Iranian parent organisation, could become more powerful than the more formal instruments of state power themselves. This is the case in Iran, where the IRGC even has its own courts.

The PMF, or Hashd Al-Sha’abi in Arabic, has been repeatedly accused of abuses against Sunni civilians in towns and villages retaken from Daesh, according to international human rights groups and the UN Human Rights Commissioner.

The PMF’s numerous sectarian violations have been termed as “war crimes” by groups such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International.

“I don’t understand why we need to have an alternative force to the army and the police,” said Sunni MP Ra’ad Al-Dahlaki. “As it stands now, it would constitute something that looks like Iran’s Revolutionary Guard,” he added.

Iraqi forces started an offensive on 17 October to capture Mosul, Daesh’s last major city stronghold in Iraq, with air and ground support from a US-led coalition. Kurdish Peshmerga and the PMF are supporting the offensive, with numerous other militias having already infiltrated the Iraqi military and federal police.

The law does not say how many fighters will be incorporated under the now legalised and formalised PMF, which currently claims to have more than 110,000 fighters, or define the breakdown between members from the different communities.

The government says between 25,000 and 30,000 members of the Hashd are Sunni tribal fighters and nearly all the rest are Shia, with a few Yazidi and Christian units. This, however, has been disputed as an attempt by the PMF to whitewash its sectarianism through the use of token Sunnis and other religious and ethnic minorities.

The law provides for the PMF to report directly to the prime minister, who is a Shia, while the army reports to the defence minister, although the position has been vacant since the sacking by parliament of Khaled Al-Obeidi in August, a move associated with sectarian Shia blocs.

Grean wrote:Turska ih je upozorila da ne ulaze u turkmenske gradove jer ce u slucaju zlocna intervenisati. Vidjet cemo je li suplja prica.

Grean wrote:Izglasase u Iraku u parlamentu da su siitske milicije regularni sastav iracke vojske ali ipak nezavisne i samofinansirajuce. Svi ostali, citaj sunitske jedinice, koji ne podlijezu pod ovaj zakon su milicije i teroristi. Za zakon su glasali svi siitski poslanici, protiv zakona bili svi sunitski.

Ove jedinice su vec pocinile brojne zlocine nad sunitskim civilnim stanovnistvom nakon protjerivanja IS. Valjda jos jedan dokaz u nizu kako Iran, iracki, sirijski i libanonski siiti nisu sektaski nastrojeni. Gdje su oni sitko-ruski fanovi da nam objasne da smo slijepi kod ociju.

Turska ih je upozorila da ne ulaze u turkmenske gradove jer ce u slucaju zlocna intervenisati. Vidjet cemo je li suplja prica.

Iraq’s parliament approved a law today that will confirm Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi’s earlier decision that will make the Popular Mobilisation forces (PMF), a mostly Iranian-backed coalition of Shia militias that played a role in fighting Daesh, into a legal and separate military corps.

Disagreements over the Shia paramilitary units are complicating efforts to pull Iraq together as forces battle to defeat Daesh, the ultra-hardline extremist group that overran a third of the country in 2014, proclaiming a “caliphate” that spans parts of Iraq and neighbouring Syria.

All the Shia blocs in parliament voted for the bill in a session boycotted by lawmakers from the Sunni population who object to the existence of armed forces outside the army and police.

This is particularly that Iran’s influence is clear in the PMF, and there have been credible reports that the PMF intends to morph into the Iraqi version of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), which is a military structure that stands in parallel to the Iranian army.

Such an IRGC-like structure would mean that the PMF, like its Iranian parent organisation, could become more powerful than the more formal instruments of state power themselves. This is the case in Iran, where the IRGC even has its own courts.

The PMF, or Hashd Al-Sha’abi in Arabic, has been repeatedly accused of abuses against Sunni civilians in towns and villages retaken from Daesh, according to international human rights groups and the UN Human Rights Commissioner.

The PMF’s numerous sectarian violations have been termed as “war crimes” by groups such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International.

“I don’t understand why we need to have an alternative force to the army and the police,” said Sunni MP Ra’ad Al-Dahlaki. “As it stands now, it would constitute something that looks like Iran’s Revolutionary Guard,” he added.

Iraqi forces started an offensive on 17 October to capture Mosul, Daesh’s last major city stronghold in Iraq, with air and ground support from a US-led coalition. Kurdish Peshmerga and the PMF are supporting the offensive, with numerous other militias having already infiltrated the Iraqi military and federal police.

The law does not say how many fighters will be incorporated under the now legalised and formalised PMF, which currently claims to have more than 110,000 fighters, or define the breakdown between members from the different communities.

The government says between 25,000 and 30,000 members of the Hashd are Sunni tribal fighters and nearly all the rest are Shia, with a few Yazidi and Christian units. This, however, has been disputed as an attempt by the PMF to whitewash its sectarianism through the use of token Sunnis and other religious and ethnic minorities.

The law provides for the PMF to report directly to the prime minister, who is a Shia, while the army reports to the defence minister, although the position has been vacant since the sacking by parliament of Khaled Al-Obeidi in August, a move associated with sectarian Shia blocs.

Putnik ali stvarno wrote:Salik tesko ces is stampe dobiti prave informacije,

to ti je kao da si 90etih hteo znati istinu sa BBCja, RTS ili HRT, svejedno. Nema realne slike od strana u sukobu, to znamo.

Pogotovo od zvanicnika u Iraku danas, bez obzira cijih, svi su zvanicnici u igri - na budzetu, a po korupciji su prevazisli cak I nase drzave

sto nam ih je nasa borba dala

salik79 wrote:
Kada vec podebljavas, red bi bio i ovo podebljati...Usput, koji ti je izvor informacije, posto jedino sto sam nasao slicno na netu je premijerov ukaz jos iz februara ove godine?

Usput, ministar odbrane je sunit.

sunceKOtepsija wrote:jedini ispravni suniti su na strani ISIL-a

Kikibombona wrote:

Grean wrote:Turska ih je upozorila da ne ulaze u turkmenske gradove jer ce u slucaju zlocna intervenisati. Vidjet cemo je li suplja prica.

Turske prijetnje su postale predmet ismijavanja. Asad mu bombarduje vojnike i pobije ih nekoliko u tri navrata. Turska na to podvija rep i porucuje kako im Alep nije cilj, indirektno pokusavajuci opustiti Asada da ih ne gadja vise. Nikakav vojni odgovor nije uslijedio. Rat protiv Sirije bi odnio hiljade turskih zivota uz rizik da ce se umjesati Iran i Irak i da ce biti do kraja ponizeni.

U Iraku tek ne smiju prstom mrdnuti. Zgazili bi ih Iracani uz podrsku Irana.

Osudila bi ih cijela MZ.

A na stranu to sto su zlocinci i sto nemaju moralno pravo bilo koga upozoravati.