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#13751 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/10/2018 21:32
by Point.
Tara the River wrote:
Point. wrote:
ioannes wrote:zdrav razum može da te vodi.... samo je pitanje gdje.
otkad je se kandidirao za predsjednika, medijska hajka ne prestaje. Uvaljuju mu skandal do skandala, stavljaju sklopke, remete rad. od afere Rusija pa nadalje i to sve sa svakodnevnom pratnjom i paljbom mainstream medija.

i onda on fura agresivnu retoriku?
neki ljudi ne mogu nikako da pređu tu prepreku u glavi i da shvate da mainstream već odavno gubi moć nad ljudima.... to je sve prije išlo glatko ali sada više ne.
Ja osobno imam dosta agresije u sebi kad vidim tu silnu dezinformaciju u mainstreamu a staložen sam čovjek.

Ti si slika i prilika mainstreama... samo napadaš i vrijeđaš neistomišljenike a izgleda ni svjestan nisi
Joj kad vidim ovo mainstream hoće nešto da mi bude.

Koga vrijeđam? Ako je nesto budaleština i neko podržava tu budaleštinu, to nije vrijeđanje nego konstatacija činjenice. Trump je idiot, to je dokazao više puta, on je i lažov, lagao je od početka kandidature preko one porno zvijezde pa do broja ljudi kad je polagao zakletvu, krije i muti u vezi Rusa, bolan njegovi saradnici kriju dokumenta od njega, u njegovoj administraciji je prošlo mali milion ljudi jer svi bježe od njega, on je tip koji je uveo riječ alternativna istina kao dio politike, napada bilo koji medij koji piše kontra njega, agresivan je u svom pristupu, očigledno nema ni trun respekta prema ženama, uspio se posvađati sa pola Evrope i Kine, idiot koji bi dovodio imigrante iz Norveške ali ne iz Meksika, Sirije itd malo bazdi na fašizam a? Upravo on je napravio ovoliki jaz u američkom društvu svojom agresivnom retorikom i sad ga ja trebam žaliti, jadan on svi se urotili protiv njega. I on a i njegove pristalice neka pođu od sebe, prije nego krenu šuplju o mainstream uroti.

Jebo te, pa vama je Trump bezgriješan. Imam osjećaj da kad bi vam servirao priču da je Zemlja ravna ploča da bi to progutali bez imalo kritike. Jer hej, mainstream nam kaže i laže da je okrugla.


Ko je rekao da je Trump bezgresan? Naravno da nije. Ali je njegova dosadasnja politika, takva kakva je, manje zlo od onoga sto se nudi kao alternativa. On se bar odupire globalizmu, stiti svoju zemlju i njene granice, na sta itekako ima pravo. Da, Trump napada medije, politicke protivnike, ilegalne migrante. Ali sta je alternativa? `War hawk` Hillary Clinton koja je unistila Libiju, da je pobijedila pitaj Boga sta bi bilo sa Sirijom sada i kakve bi tek migrantske krize imali. Gledajuci djela, a ne rijeci, Trump koliko znam nije poceo jos nijedan rat, za razliku od prethodnika. Za nadati se da ce tako ostati.

Vi koji gledate sve crno-bijelo (a stvari su mnogo kompleksnije od toga), po principu Trump je djavo a Clintonovi su andjeli, donosite preuranjene zakljucke koje cujete na CNN-u pa ih ovdje ponavljate kao papagaji. Da, Trump pravi mnogo gresaka, ali isto tako postoje i pozitivne stvari.
Za Hillary nikad nisam smatrao da je anđeo a CNN nisam gledao od kako je potpisan Dayton.

#13752 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/10/2018 21:40
by Point.
c_g wrote:Od 2016 godine registrovan kao republikanac, prije bio dem.
Pratite ovo. 2002. Ko ga je tad inspirisao?

https://twitter.com/KRayWFTV/status/105 ... 07841?s=19

EDIT: Pa sad i tvoja teorija pada u vodu jer kažeš da ga je Trump inspirisao, a on i 2002 godine to radio. Ko je tad bio predsjednik?
Tip spava u gacama sa Trumpovom njuskom i ti postaviš takvo pitanje.

#13753 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/10/2018 21:49
by c_g
Point. wrote:Tip spava u gacama sa Trumpovom njuskom i ti postaviš takvo pitanje.
Nisam znao da je 2002 Trump bio predsjednik. Sigurno ga i tad inspirisao.
Hvala na informacijama.

#13754 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/10/2018 22:04
by jeza u ledja
c_g wrote:Od 2016 godine registrovan kao republikanac, prije bio dem.
Pratite ovo. 2002. Ko ga je tad inspirisao?

https://twitter.com/KRayWFTV/status/105 ... 07841?s=19

EDIT: Pa sad i tvoja teorija pada u vodu jer kažeš da ga je Trump inspirisao, a on i 2002 godine to radio. Ko je tad bio predsjednik?
jeza u ledja wrote: do juce je bio navijac Hillary.
Ahahaha . Molim da mi se upise poen. :kravata: :pisnuo:

#13755 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/10/2018 22:11
by c_g
Nije prvi koji je promijenio strane. :mrgreen:
Mene zanima sad, pošto očigledno poštari, kuriri nisu dostavljali te naprave, nemoguće da je on sam sve dostavio, ko mu je pomogao u tome svemu?! Također me zanima, pošto su očigledno ručno dostavljanje, gdje su snimci, zar je moguće da ga niko nije snimio ili osobu koja je predala te "pakete"?!

#13756 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/10/2018 22:16
by jeza u ledja
Sto te sve to zanima? Nemas povjerenja u organe?

#13757 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/10/2018 22:39
by ultima_palabra
jeza u ledja wrote:Sto te sve to zanima? Nemas povjerenja u organe?
Deep state, bajo moj :mrgreen:

#13758 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/10/2018 23:57
by jeza u ledja
Ha mislim, il vjerujes ili ne vjerujes. Ako ne vjerujes onda djaba da ti pod nos postave dokaze. U tome je problem, kad ljudi ne vjeruju institucijama, onda se polako drustvo pocne raspadati. Tipican navijac Trumpa - ne vjeruje institucijama vlasti. Osim jel....kad odlucuju u njihovu korist. :lol:

#13759 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 27/10/2018 00:04
by Ja_Ja
I na ovoj temi se nakupilo bosansko-americkih huzera. Tip mrtav hladan tvrdi za Trumpovu politiku da je manje stetna. Ko da je prespavao dvije godine.

#13760 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 27/10/2018 00:48
by Point.
c_g wrote:
Point. wrote:Tip spava u gacama sa Trumpovom njuskom i ti postaviš takvo pitanje.
Nisam znao da je 2002 Trump bio predsjednik. Sigurno ga i tad inspirisao.
Hvala na informacijama.
Šta je radio 2002 godine ne umanjuje činjenicu da je godine gospodnje 2018 strastveni Trumpov navijač. Mislim, kako ti se više da braniti neodbranjivo?

#13761 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 27/10/2018 01:10
by Hame_
Meni je, al fakat, otkako je Tramponja glavni - život puno bolji.

Trump :thumbup:

Kod Obame sam fol nešto ispred bio - karina.

#13762 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 27/10/2018 01:11
by jeza u ledja
:D

#13763 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 27/10/2018 01:12
by Hame_
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

#13764 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 27/10/2018 19:53
by jeza u ledja
I evo opet danas neka pucnjava. Neki budalas se zaletio u sinagogu u Pittsburghu i ubio 4 i ranio jos 10-ak ljudi. Ne, nije u pitanju "islamski terorista", vec neki desnicar.

Opet cionisti sa false flag operacijama pred izbore. :oops:

#13765 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 27/10/2018 19:58
by GandalfSivi
jeza u ledja wrote:I evo opet danas neka pucnjava. Neki budalas se zaletio u sinagogu u Pittsburghu i ubio 4 i ranio jos 10-ak ljudi. Ne, nije u pitanju "islamski terorista", vec neki desnicar.

Opet cionisti sa false flag operacijama pred izbore. :oops:
Trenutni bodycount osam ljudi...

#13766 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 27/10/2018 20:13
by jeza u ledja
GandalfSivi wrote:
jeza u ledja wrote:I evo opet danas neka pucnjava. Neki budalas se zaletio u sinagogu u Pittsburghu i ubio 4 i ranio jos 10-ak ljudi. Ne, nije u pitanju "islamski terorista", vec neki desnicar.

Opet cionisti sa false flag operacijama pred izbore. :oops:
Trenutni bodycount osam ljudi...
Zar vec? ccc strasno

#13767 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 27/10/2018 23:03
by Neregistrirani
11 mrtvih

Opet neki Trampoljubac.
Anti-Semitism appeared to run deep for Mr. Bowers. Before it was deleted Saturday morning, a social media account believed to belong to him was filled with anti-Jewish slurs and references to anti-Jewish conspiracy theories.

In January, an account under his name was created on Gab, a social network that bills itself as a free speech haven. The app, which grew out of claims of anti-conservative bias by Facebook and Twitter, is a popular gathering place for alt-right activists and white nationalists whose views are unwelcome on other social media platforms. Early members included the right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos and Andrew Anglin, the founder of the neo-Nazi Daily Stormer website.

Several weeks ago, Mr. Bowers’s account posted a link to the website of HIAS, a Jewish nonprofit organization, which was planning a shabbat ceremony for refugees in locations around the country. The caption read: “Why hello there HIAS! You like to bring in hostile invaders to dwell among us?”

And hours before the gunman entered the Tree of Life synagogue, the account posted again: “HIAS likes to bring invaders in that kill our people. I can’t sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw your optics, I’m going in.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/us/a ... oting.html

#13768 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 27/10/2018 23:11
by c_g
Ovaj je dobar, kod ovog imaš šta pročitati, onaj samo RT lupao, neke memes, gluposti. :lol:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/1 ... d-by-jews/

#13769 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 28/10/2018 05:26
by GandalfSivi
c_g wrote:Ovaj je dobar, kod ovog imaš šta pročitati, onaj samo RT lupao, neke memes, gluposti. :lol:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/1 ... d-by-jews/
Tebi smijesno nesto danas, ha?

#13770 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 29/10/2018 05:41
by pirmin
Ima li gdje gif one scene kad balvan ostavlja kisobran pred ulazom u avion? :D

#13771 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 29/10/2018 12:53
by seln
pirmin wrote:Ima li gdje gif one scene kad balvan ostavlja kisobran pred ulazom u avion? :D
Predsednik, muz, otac...

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#13772 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 29/10/2018 13:48
by pirmin
Ee taj rad! :thumbup:

:D

#13773 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 29/10/2018 14:18
by jeza u ledja
Dobar clanak:
Our Political News Cycle Isn’t Broken, It’s Working As Planned

What feels like chaos is the product of a well-oiled machine, where all participants seem to know their specific roles.

It’s become routine these days to hear people describe the churning cycle of politics and news, tossed back and forth between Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, comments sections, and television, as “broken.” You can feel the nation’s blood pressure rising as the election approaches, and the specter of political violence gets closer and closer. But this isn’t a broken system: There’s order to the madness. In fact, what feels broken is the product of a well-oiled machine in which all participants seem to know their specific roles.

The end result is a near-perfect union of many of the darkest forces in American culture — the collision of toxic hyperpartisanship, sensationalized media, and a mature online ecosystem that seems to incentivize and accelerate the worst impulses and behaviors. And if the past is any indication of future performance, it will only get worse. The machine is not broken, it’s firing on all cylinders.

That’s why, within minutes of Wednesday morning’s reports that suspicious explosive devices had been mailed to well-known Democrats like former president Barack Obama and Bill and Hillary Clinton, far-right media personalities reflexively mused that the packages were a “false flag” attempt to solicit goodwill for Democrats two weeks before the midterms. That dozens of pro-Trump commentators and personalities settled on this narrative at once is not a coincidence or a conspiracy. It’s far simpler: Crying “false flag” is a tried and true tactic. And for an audience eager to dismiss anything that will challenge their preexisting ideologies, it’s effective.

That’s why this conspiratorial mindset has bled from the murky fringes of the internet into the political rhetoric. Because it works! Alex Jones and his Infowars media empire not only provided a blueprint for reflexive conspiracy theorizing but laid the foundation for the efficient transmission of these ideas across social platforms (before, of course, getting banned from them this summer). Jones’ popularity and his success at cultivating audiences touting baseless claims and incendiary rhetoric wasn’t just good entertainment, but proof of concept good enough to rewire a segment of political discourse and launch dozens of copycats (and not just on the right; the temptation of the Russia/Mueller story, for instance, has produced its fair share of Blue Detectives, too).

Because this has all happened before, the politicians know their respective roles, too. They make pleas for civility — saying that our heated political debating has gone too far. They call for unity. They disavow political violence. And some assign blame to a president who has chosen the media as a target. The president then ignores those voices and blames the media for its role in the anger and partisanship in today’s society. None of these individual positions plays well with their respective political opponents, but each is received with encouraging shouts of approval from the base.

Which brings us to the press, which, of course, knows its role. It’s why journalists and news organizations adopted the indignant posture of the righteous victim. It’s why reporters doubled down on fact-checking and calling attention to countless falsehoods coming from Trump rallies. It’s the reason CNN defiantly shot its Wednesday broadcasts from a New York City sidewalk after a bomb threat evacuated their Manhattan headquarters. Signaling the virtue of reporting and speaking truth to power isn’t just a way to maintain accountability or to defend the dignity of one’s profession from a political movement that seeks to devalue it — it’s also a way to win public approval. And, in some cases, it also makes for good TV. This resolute posture plays well with the base (in this case, those who value reporting), but only further angers those who see the press as dangerous soldiers in an information war.

The partisans and the press aren’t the only patsies here. The tech platforms acting as particle accelerators for the hourly news cycles know their role as well. They are the connective tissue for the entire ecosystem, whose algorithms are carefully calibrated to reward information that is often misleading and polarizing. Vulnerable to propaganda and misinformation, the systems unwittingly make conspiracy theories easier to find, as Twitter did on Wednesday when its algorithms surfaced #FAKEBOMBSCARE, #FakeBombs, and #FalseFlag tweets in its Trending module.

And, when their rules are inevitably violated, tech platforms’ inaction and begrudging corrections have become predictable, too. Like on Thursday, when Instagram refused to take down a post by troll Milo Yiannopoulos lamenting that the mail bombs didn’t go off. According to Instagram, the post did not violate its terms of service. But, predictably, a few hours after a story on the post caused outrage online, the platform quickly removed it.

None of this happens in a vacuum. Each group’s actions both result from and provoke the actions of the other groups. The media’s righteous indignation at Trump’s attack on the press only feeds Trump and his supporters’ claim of a biased press. Claims of false flags from the far right are further proof for anti-Trumpers of a bankrupt and unhinged pro-Trump media fringe. Conversely, for the far right, the left’s dismissal of their conspiracy theories suggests that they’re onto something. The tech platforms’ failure to enforce its rules and stop divisive misinformation is proof to some of a dangerous monopoly, while others see any enforcement from the Facebooks and Twitters of the world as proof of corporate tyranny. The dance has become so rote that even extremely online civilians can become effective propaganda outlets (one look at the alleged mail bomber’s meme-plastered van reveals an individual all too familiar with the the particulars of online message board–powered information warfare).

This is the machine at work. And, until someone finds a way to break the cycle, it will only get worse. Because everyone knows their roles, with each cycle the machine becomes slightly more efficient. Each action inspires an equal and opposite toxic reaction with just a bit less friction. The cumulative effect of each cycle helps to cobble together two separate universes, each armed with its own set of facts. Everybody is losing and but feels like they’re winning, all at the same time.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ch ... p-internet

#13774 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 29/10/2018 14:39
by seln
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#13775 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 29/10/2018 14:39
by seln
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