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#13451 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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Po diskusiji vidim da nam treba dogovor koje motocikle treba da voze ateisti. :?
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#13452 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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aurora313 wrote:Po diskusiji vidim da nam treba dogovor koje motocikle treba da voze ateisti. :?
Njemce i japance. Kad njih vozis ne moras se molit' Bogu da ne crknu. :D
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#13453 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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Ramzess Veliki wrote:
aurora313 wrote:Po diskusiji vidim da nam treba dogovor koje motocikle treba da voze ateisti. :?
Njemce i japance. Kad njih vozis ne moras se molit' Bogu da ne crknu. :D
Takoe :thumbup:

Eo moja starka Vectra A, nika izdala nije 8-)
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#13454 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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Mogu proći i neke druge marke, ali koje imaju Njemačke motore... Škoda sa VW motorom recimo.

Imao sam fabiju koja je prešla preko 300k, a samo sam ja nabio 180k dok je nisam prodao. Ni jednom se nije pokvarila, a i novi vlasnik isto tvrdi.
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#13455 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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:cekam:
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#13456 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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šta čekaš, pometi :mrgreen:
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#13457 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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Štrajkujem...
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#13458 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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Čuj begovice: pometi...

- Zašto ne metlaju?
- Kažu da nemaju hljeba da jedu...
- Zašto onda ne jedu kolače?
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#13459 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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Bloo wrote:Štrajkujem...
:shooo:

čuj arze...vazda se nešto buni :mrgreen: jel i ti štrajkuješ :mrgreen:
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#13460 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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arzuhal wrote:Čuj begovice: pometi...

- Zašto ne metlaju?
- Kažu da nemaju hljeba da jedu...
- Zašto onda ne jedu kolače?
Vratija se Šime... :bih: :D
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#13461 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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Štaš, priče o autima i motorima nas zanesu :D
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#13462 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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MarlboroGold wrote:Štaš, priče o autima i motorima nas zanesu :D
Mozda su nam Autobot-ovi nas kreatori 8-)

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#13463 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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kada s deseptikonima
zapodjevate kavgu
čuvajte se Rembla
bez obzira na snagu!
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#13464 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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arzuhal wrote:kada s deseptikonima
zapodjevate kavgu
čuvajte se Rembla
bez obzira na snagu!
ode nam arzo u pjesnike :D
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#13465 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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Smrcak15 wrote:
arzuhal wrote:kada s deseptikonima
zapodjevate kavgu
čuvajte se Rembla
bez obzira na snagu!
ode nam arzo u pjesnike :D
Znaš ti ono kada je pjesnik recitirao svoju poeziju na dvoru nekog abasijskog halife (mogao bih iskopati i tačne historijske podatke, imena...), pa su stihovi bili prožeti i erotičnim momentima i opisima...Halifa se osmjehivao i slušao s odobravanjem, a kada je pjesnik završio, rekao mu je:

- Tvoja drskost i poezija zahtijevaju da te kaznim :)
- A na čemu bi se zasnivala tvoja presuda, o vođo vjernika, na što se to pozivaš u donošenju suda? :?
- Na Kur'an, dakako! :)
- Pa zar ne znaš, plemeniti, šta Kur'an Časni kaže o pjesnicima:"...oni ne rade ono što govore." :lol:

Tako je još zaradio i peškeš od halife :mrgreen:


PS.

Stihovi o Remblu nisu moji :mrgreen:
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#13466 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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Ramzess Veliki wrote:
Hakiz wrote: Da mogu, ja bih MX-5...
Meni je to najljepsi roadster, ali mi rekose da je to LGBT auto. :sad:
Ako si siguran u sebe, u čemu je problem?

:evil:
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#13467 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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beni-bu-man wrote:
MarlboroGold wrote:Štaš, priče o autima i motorima nas zanesu :D
Mozda su nam Autobot-ovi nas kreatori 8-)

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:D :thumbup:
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#13468 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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de ba, uhafizajte se malo

Massimo Pigliucci - zanimljiv i jer ima 3 doktorata: iz biologije (2x) i filozofije nauke (1x) [argument from authority fallacy alert!] - ima zanimljiv tekst (upućen prevashodno drugim biolozima) o potrebi izbjegavanja nepotrebnih mehaničkih metafora u govoru o biološkim sistemima, jer može laike (tipa smrčka) navesti na pomisli o bukvalnim "robotima", "mašinama", "fabrikama" i sl. stvarima ("Why Machine-Information Metaphors are Bad for Science and Science Education")

Apstrakt:
Genes are often described by biologists using metaphors derived from computational science: they are thought of as carriers of information, as being the equivalent of ‘‘blueprints’’ for the construction of organisms. Likewise, cells are often characterized as ‘‘factories’’ and organisms themselves become analogous to machines. Accordingly, when the human genome project was initially announced, the promise was that we would soon know how a human being is made, just as we know how to make airplanes and buildings. Importantly, modern proponents of Intelligent Design, the latest version of creationism, have exploited biologists’ use of the language of information and blueprints to make their spurious case, based on pseudoscientific concepts such as ‘‘irreducible complexity’’ and on flawed analogies between living cells and mechanical factories. However, the living organism = machine analogy was criticized already by David Hume in his Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion. In line with Hume’s criticism, over the past several years a more nuanced and accurate understanding of what genes are and how they operate has emerged, ironically in part from the work of computational scientists who take biology, and in particular developmental biology, more seriously than some biologists seem to do. In this article we connect Hume’s original criticism of the living organism = machine analogy with the modern ID movement, and illustrate how the use of misleading and outdated metaphors in science can play into the hands of pseudoscientists. Thus, we argue that dropping the blueprint and similar metaphors will improve both the science of biology and its understanding by the general public
Kome se ne da to čitati ima i dva kraća teksta na blogu: https://platofootnote.wordpress.com/201 ... nt-design/ + https://platofootnote.wordpress.com/201 ... metaphors/
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#13469 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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#13470 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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so true :!:
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#13471 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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skroz ofkorz...ona mu upravo rekla da vjeruje da ga voli.... :D
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#13472 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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ExNihilo wrote:Image
Ovo je odavno problem novinarstva. Ljudi čitaju novine i prate medije koji pisanjem potvrđuju ono šta već misle. Niko ne želi da se zapita da li griješi i da mu neko kaže a još gore pokaže da griješi.

I onda novinari i mediji da bi bili kupovani pišu ne ono šta jeste nego ono šta njihova ciljana publika želi da pročita, čuje i vidi. Pa da među rajom mogu pričati "Eto, jesam li bio u pravu, i u novinama piše ono šta sam ja juče rekao. Baš sam pametan."
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#13473 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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Dodatni problem su algoritmi u pozadini većine društvenih mreža koji postepeno uče interese i stavove korisnika, te serviraju sadržaj koji reinforca postojeće stavove umjesto da ih izaziva.

Ovdje pod društvenim mrežama ne mislim samo na FB i ta sranja već sve platforme za dijeljenje/stvaranje sadržaja koje inkorporiraju ovakve algoritme.
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#13474 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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Nedostaje mi vrijeme ono vrijeme kada odem i kupim 3 dnevna lista, neki sedmicni magazin i jos sta, pa sjednem sa merakom, pijem kafu i pušim, pročitam jednu te istu vijest u tim novinama prezentiranu iz više uglova, a u zavisnosti od afilijacije novinara/urednika/novine, te se malo zrakne i internet i onda dobiješ polovicu cijele slike o događaju.
Ovako osuđeni samo na platforme za dijeljenje/stvaranje sadržaja i algoritme koje je Nihilo spomenuo, lagano se pretvaramo u pandane antivaxxera na neki način...
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#13475 Re: Ateizam / Nihilizam / Agnosticizam

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I lol'd a little. :D
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