#13176 Re: Republika Turska
Posted: 09/10/2016 11:51
@Vjeciti ..
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Poredis uspjeli sa neuspjelim pucem i poredis polovinu druge decenije 21.vijeka sa 1980.godinom.Co0l wrote:Iskorištavanje neuspjelog puča za razračunavanje sa političkim protivnicima je za osudu.
Ipak, sa brojkama se pretjeruje i većina privedenih je naknadno puštena.Više je onih koji su 'samo' ostali bez posla.
Kad se već porede bivši sistemi-nakon uspjelog puča 1980. u Turskoj je uhapšeno 600 hiljada ljudi, od toga ne nekih cetvrt miliona i osuđeno, pedesetak ih je osuđeno na smrt a za mnogima se i dan-danas traga.Dobar pokazatelj šta bi se desilo da je i ovaj puč uspio.
Da, poredim, a objasnio sam i zašto.Uostalom, to je bilo puno poslije Golog otoka koji se spominje u diskusiji.aratet wrote:Poredis uspjeli sa neuspjelim pucem i poredis polovinu druge decenije 21.vijeka sa 1980.godinom.Co0l wrote:Iskorištavanje neuspjelog puča za razračunavanje sa političkim protivnicima je za osudu.
Ipak, sa brojkama se pretjeruje i većina privedenih je naknadno puštena.Više je onih koji su 'samo' ostali bez posla.
Kad se već porede bivši sistemi-nakon uspjelog puča 1980. u Turskoj je uhapšeno 600 hiljada ljudi, od toga ne nekih cetvrt miliona i osuđeno, pedesetak ih je osuđeno na smrt a za mnogima se i dan-danas traga.Dobar pokazatelj šta bi se desilo da je i ovaj puč uspio.
I sta velis, "samo ostali bez posla".
Lijepo pišeCo0l wrote:Iskorištavanje neuspjelog puča za razračunavanje sa političkim protivnicima je za osudu.
Ipak, sa brojkama se pretjeruje i većina privedenih je naknadno puštena.Više je onih koji su 'samo' ostali bez posla.
Kad se već porede bivši sistemi-nakon uspjelog puča 1980. u Turskoj je uhapšeno 600 hiljada ljudi, od toga ne nekih cetvrt miliona i osuđeno, pedesetak ih je osuđeno na smrt a za mnogima se i dan-danas traga.Dobar pokazatelj šta bi se desilo da je i ovaj puč uspio.
Ima li ijedan primjer neke demokratije koja je na ovakav način hapsila desetine hiljada svojih građana?For example, of the total of 70,756 taken into custody since the attempted coup by supposed followers of exiled cleric Fethullah Gulen, 31,048 were served with arrest warrants, 1,304 are still “under questioning” but 1,436 were later set free.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tur ... 51781.html
Nove informacije nakon sto je 23/24.09.2016. predsjednik Kirgistana iz Istanbula prebacen u Moskvu na lijecenje. Atambajev je bio na putu za Njujork gdje je trebao prisustvovati sjednici Generalne Skupstine UN-a.Omurbek Tekebayev- Kirgistanski parlamentarac tvrdi da je predsjednik Republike Turske izricito onemogucio pruzanje adekvatne pomoci Atambayevu-predsjedniku Kirgistana na teritoriji Turske, iznio je jos niz detalja o ponasanju turskih vlasti u spornom trenutku. Bivsi ambasador Kirgistana u Ankari-Mambetjunus Abılov- je ocijenio da je jedan od faktora koji je doveo do pogorsanja odnosa izmedu Kirgistana i Turske Republike-nesaradnja Kirgistanskih vlasti s Republikom Turskom po pitanju gulenovsko-teroristicke organizacije.Kyrgyzstan's President Almazbek Atambayev has been transferred to Russia for treatment after suffering suspected heart trouble, his office said Friday, several days after he was hospitalised in Istanbul.
Atambayev arrived in Moscow and was admitted to the city's presidential hospital "on the recommendation of specialists", the statement from the presidential administration noted.
Atambayev, 60, was stopping off in Istanbul en route to the United Nations General Assembly in New York when he was hospitalised following complaints of "chest pains", officials said Monday.
Ima, SAD je hapsila Amerikance japanskog porijekla tokom WW2.VjecitiStudent wrote:Lijepo pišeCo0l wrote:Iskorištavanje neuspjelog puča za razračunavanje sa političkim protivnicima je za osudu.
Ipak, sa brojkama se pretjeruje i većina privedenih je naknadno puštena.Više je onih koji su 'samo' ostali bez posla.
Kad se već porede bivši sistemi-nakon uspjelog puča 1980. u Turskoj je uhapšeno 600 hiljada ljudi, od toga ne nekih cetvrt miliona i osuđeno, pedesetak ih je osuđeno na smrt a za mnogima se i dan-danas traga.Dobar pokazatelj šta bi se desilo da je i ovaj puč uspio.Ima li ijedan primjer neke demokratije koja je na ovakav način hapsila desetine hiljada svojih građana?For example, of the total of 70,756 taken into custody since the attempted coup by supposed followers of exiled cleric Fethullah Gulen, 31,048 were served with arrest warrants, 1,304 are still “under questioning” but 1,436 were later set free.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tur ... 51781.html
Co0l wrote:VjecitiStudent wrote: Ima, SAD je hapsila Amerikance japanskog porijekla tokom WW2.
Kao što rekoh, nema još pouzdanih podataka o broju uhapšenih.Čak i u ovom tekstu se kaže da se radi o novinarskim naklapanjima (a znamo, valjda, kolko su ona pouzdana u ovakvim situacijama)i nekih izjava vladinih službenika.A government website has been sending detention figures to local journalists each morning, but it is almost impossible to keep pace with the overall figure.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tur ... 51781.html
To sam i napisao.VjecitiStudent wrote:Co0l wrote:VjecitiStudent wrote: Ima, SAD je hapsila Amerikance japanskog porijekla tokom WW2.
Kao što rekoh, nema još pouzdanih podataka o broju uhapšenih.Čak i u ovom tekstu se kaže da se radi o novinarskim naklapanjima (a znamo, valjda, kolko su ona pouzdana u ovakvim situacijama)i nekih izjava vladinih službenika.A government website has been sending detention figures to local journalists each morning, but it is almost impossible to keep pace with the overall figure.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tur ... 51781.html
Kako su ovo zvanične vladine brojke, sigurno je, nažalost, da su u stvarnosti one još i veće.Co0l wrote:
sa brojkama se pretjeruje i većina privedenih je naknadno puštena.Više je onih koji su 'samo' ostali bez posla.
VjecitiStudent wrote:A government website has been sending detention figures to local journalists each morning, but it is almost impossible to keep pace with the overall figure.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tur ... 51781.html
Ne mora znaciti jer bas u tom tekstu ili u nekom drugom danas postanom na temi (ne da mi se sad provjeravati kojem) pise da se vlada namjerno šica ciframa privedenih i uhapsenih sa ciljem da narodu, kao, dokaze koliko je duboko ta zavjera isla.Banksy wrote:Kako su ovo zvanične vladine brojke, sigurno je, nažalost, da su u stvarnosti one još i veće.Co0l wrote:
sa brojkama se pretjeruje i većina privedenih je naknadno puštena.Više je onih koji su 'samo' ostali bez posla.
VjecitiStudent wrote:A government website has been sending detention figures to local journalists each morning, but it is almost impossible to keep pace with the overall figure.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tur ... 51781.html






Co0l wrote:Nek crknu dušmani![]()
SAD-e Japance.VjecitiStudent wrote: Lijepo pišeIma li ijedan primjer neke demokratije koja je na ovakav način hapsila desetine hiljada svojih građana?For example, of the total of 70,756 taken into custody since the attempted coup by supposed followers of exiled cleric Fethullah Gulen, 31,048 were served with arrest warrants, 1,304 are still “under questioning” but 1,436 were later set free.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tur ... 51781.html





After leaking Erdogan's son-in law, minister Albayrak's mails, Redhack's account is suspendedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RedHackRedHack is the first hacker group which has been accused of being a terrorist organization[4] and is currently one of the world's most wanted hacker groupsRedHack is starting to publish more emails re Berat Albayrak's (Erdogan's son-in-law) involvement with ISIS oil.The AKP government has promptly shut down multiple Twitter accounts and blocked access to the websites. On Sept. 24, police began operations to arrest those who were charged and acquitted from being RedHackers years ago.
On Sept. 28, a few marginal television channels announced they would be airing the allegedly hacked emails. On the same day, dozens of channels, known as opposition media associated with Kurdish, Alevi and leftist groups, were taken off the main satellite programming. Halk TV was still able to report some of the emails on Sept. 28.
Pro-AKP newspapers and social media accounts have started a subtle campaign claiming RedHack is now being run by the Gulen movement.
RedHack is releasing more emails from Albayrak’s account despite all censorship attempts. So what is in the alleged emails released so far? They are mostly emails sent to Albayrak and can be explained in three categories...
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origina ... amily.html
Turkey has blocked access to Dropbox and restricted Google Drive, file sharing services popular on mobile phones and computers, after Energy Minister Berat Albayrak’s private emails were hacked by Turkish Marxist hacking group RedHack.
On Saturday both services issued SSL errors, indicating interception at the national and ISP level, according to TurkeyBlocks, a website monitoring Internet freedom in Turkey in real time.
The Information and Communication Technologies Authority (BTK) issued an official notice blocking Google Drive.
“After technical analysis and legal consideration based on Law No. 5651, [an] ADMINISTRATION MEASURE has been taken for this website (drive.google.com) according to Decision No.490.05.01.2016.-156393 dated 08/10/2016 implemented by [the] Information and Communication Technologies Authority,” TurkeyBlocks quoted the statement released by the BTK as saying.
Three weeks ago RedHack announced that it had hacked the email account of Energy Minister Berat Albayrak, who is also the son-in-law of President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, and warned that it would disclose 20GB of content if its demand for the release of two Kurdish and leftist writers from prison was not met.
After its demand went unheeded, the group began to disclose classified information that reveals a web of murky business and political relationships. In one important email, Albayrak confirms Turkey’s tacit support for the terrorist Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) by keeping weapons supply routes and jihadi crossings to Syria open.
In a series of emails, correspondence between Doğan Media Group Director General Mehmet Ali Yalçındağ, who is also the son-in-law of Aydın Doğan, and President Erdoğan’s Executive Assistant Hasan Doğan, Berat Albayrak and his brother Serhat Albayrak shows how the media readjusted and reshaped its editorial line and media coverage in line with the government’s needs and whims.
Yalçındağ left his position after the revelations.

-novi napad-Dicle (Dijarbakir)-ubijen Deryan Aktert-predsjednik lokalnog odbora AKP-a.
Özalp (Van)-ubijen zamjenik predsjednika lokalnog odbora AKP-a Aydın Muştu.
sunceKOtepsija wrote: Pro-AKP newspapers and social media accounts have started a subtle campaign claiming RedHack is now being run by the Gulen movement.

Ne znam da li je ovo tacno, meni rekose forumski analiticari da to samo Amerika radi.sunceKOtepsija wrote: After its demand went unheeded, the group began to disclose classified information that reveals a web of murky business and political relationships. In one important email, Albayrak confirms Turkey’s tacit support for the terrorist Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) by keeping weapons supply routes and jihadi crossings to Syria open.
Vlade Republike Turske i Rusije potpisale su bilateralni sporazum o realizaciji projekta izgrade gasovoda Turski tok, kojim će ruski gas biti preko Turske transportovan ka Evropi, javlja Anasolu Agency (AA).
Potpis je uslijedio nakon bilateralnog susreta turskog predsjednika Recepa Tayyipa Erdogana i njegovog ruskog kolege Vladimira Putina koji su se sastali danas na marginama 23. Svjetskog ekonomskog kongresa u Istanbulu.
Sporazum o izgradnji gasovoda Turski tok u ime Vlade Turske potpisao je ministar energetike i prirodnih resursa Berat Albayrak, dok je za Vladu Rusije potpisnik bio resorni ministar Aleksandr Novak.
Turski tok je gasovod koji će imati dva kraka i ukupnog kapaciteta 31,5 milijarde kubnih metara. Jedan krak Turskog toka će se prostirati iz Rusije do Turske i podmirivati turske potrebe za ruskim gasom, dok će drugi krak se prostirati iz Rusije, preko Turske, ka evropskim zemljama.
Riječ je o projektu kojeg je ruski predsjednik Putin najavio još u decembru 2014. godine.