Obama i SAD (2008-2016)

[palermo]

9,3 +, naravno za Hidajetu

[pike]

Eto ti u ovom videu se spominje to obecanje, negdje oko 2.10min.

pusti ti ove pisce koji ce svasta napisati da im se knjiga proda bolje.
i ako je stvarno to rekao, clinton je znao da se predizborna "trbalo bi ovo, trebalo bi ono" naklapanja rijetko ispunjavaju i nije krenuo na balkan nego na somaliju.
i obama obecava sastanak sa ahmedinedzadom, castrom i chavezom, pa vidjet cemo hoce li se to stvarno desiti ako pobjedi.
bottom line je da je smijesna ta teza da je hillary kriva za odugovlacivanje vojne akcije.

Hitchens uopste nije napisao knjigu na temu Clinton vec religije, tako da ti ovo o prodaji knjiga ne stoji. Sto se tice teze da je Hillary odgovorna, vrlo je moguce jer ona gazi preko mrtvih da dodje do cilja, neki ljudi ili bolje reci neljudi su jednostavno takvi...nije ona jedina. Hitcehns je takodje naveo izvore kad ga je voditelj pitao kako zna, dakle nije on to izmislio. Ne kazem ja da je Hilary 100% odgovorna ali da je igrala ulogu vrlo je moguce.

[pitt]

Sve ispod 10% je dobro i za Husu naseg. Glavno je da ne pokupi sve delegate vjestica.

iz weekend journal....peggy joj mira ne da

DECLARATIONS
By PEGGY NOONAN






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While McCain Watches
April 18, 2008; Page W14
Washington

On Tuesday Hillary Clinton made the best speech of her campaign. She told the American Society of Newspaper Editors how she conceives "the power and promise of the presidency." She asserted that President Bush had been "unready" for the office, did not understand its "constitutional character," exhibited in his decisions an "ideological disdain." She said she hopes to "restore balance and purpose" to the presidency, and detailed specific actions she would take immediately on entering the White House.

It was an important speech, and someone, probably many someones, worked hard on it. It was highly partisan, even polar, but it was a more thoughtful critique of the administration, more densely woven and less bromidic, than she has offered in the past, and she used a higher vocabulary. So eager was she to be heard she actually noted at one point that what she'd just said was not "a soundbite."

And here's the thing. It didn't matter. Nobody noticed. A room full of journalists didn't notice this was something new and interesting. And they didn't notice because nobody is listening anymore.

Mrs. Clinton is transmitting, but people aren't receiving. She has been branded, tagged. She's been absorbed, understood and categorized. People have decided what they think, and it's not good.

It took George W. Bush five years to get to that point. It took her five intense months. Political historians will say her campaign sank with the mad Bosnia lie, but Bosnia broke through only because it expressed, crystallized, what people had already begun to think: too much mendacity there, too much manipulation.

Timing is everything. "Too late to get serious," I wrote in my notes. For before this, Mrs. Clinton's campaign was all dreary recitation of talking points, rote applause lines followed by rote applause.

The next day the Washington Post had its latest numbers. A "majority of voters now view her as dishonest," it said, bluntly. Six in 10 said she was "not honest or trustworthy." Which itself doesn't tell us, really, anything new, but concretizes, like the Bosnia story, what is already known.

This is what I think will happen. At some future point Mrs. Clinton will leave, and at a more distant one she will try to come back. But more than one cycle will have to pass before she does. She'll need more than four years to shake off the impression she made in 2008. And this is how you'll know she's making another bid for the presidency. She will wear skirts. Gone will be the pantsuits that made her look like a small blond man with breasts. It's the new me, I wear skirts! Her first impulse is to think cosmetically. A long and weary life in politics has left her thinking this is the way to think.

All of which sounds as if I foresee a Pennsylvania drubbing for her. I do not. I just think that whatever happens in Pennsylvania, the decision has been made, the die cast. Barack Obama's supporters will not be denied. He broke through, gained purchase, held his ground, the one thing Mrs. Clinton could not afford. When I speak to superdelegates, the vibration is there: It is the moment of Obama.

And now his problem emerges. It is two-headed. It is not that he is African-American, or half so, and it is not that he is liberal. Liberalism too, one senses, is having a moment.

It is his youth, his relative untriedness, the fact that he has not suffered, been seasoned, been beat about the head by life and left struggling back, as happens to most adults by a certain time. This is what I hear from older people, who vote in great numbers. They are not hostile to his race, they are skeptical of his inexperience.

The other is elitism, a charge that clearly grates on him and unnerves his wife, who has a great deal that would be attractive in a first lady (intelligence, accomplishment, beauty) but lacks placidity, which is, actually, necessary. All first ladies, first spouses, should be like Denis Thatcher, slightly dazed, mildly inscrutable, utterly supportive. It is the only job in the world where "seems slightly drugged" is a positive job qualification. The key is to know you are not the drama, you do not draw the lightning, you are a background player who yet has deep, unseen power. (The "deep, unseen power" part keeps you serene and energized. The constant possibility of quiet revenge keeps one peppy.)

Sen. Obama seems honestly surprised by the furor his the-poor-cling-to-God-and-guns remarks elicited, and if one considers his background—intense marginalization followed by the establishment's embrace—this is understandable. He was only caught speaking the secret language of America's elite, and what he said was not meant as a putdown. It was an explanation aimed at ameliorating the elites' anger toward and impatience with normal people. It's a way of explaining them, of saying, "You have to remember they're not comfortable and educated like us, they're vulnerable and so we must try to understand them and feel sympathy for and solidarity with them." You could say this at any high-class dinner party in America and not cause a ruffle. But America is not a high-class dinner party.

Mrs. Obama said Tuesday that she is from the South Side of Chicago and a working-class home, and seemed to argue that no one from such humble beginnings could be an elitist. But America is full of people who started low, rose high and internalized what the right people think, which is another way of saying what the elites think. To rise in America is to turn left, unless you are very, very tough or protected by privilege of the financial or familial kind.

Can Mr. Obama survive this? Yes. But it made a bad impression, the kind it's hard to eradicate. Good news for him: the trope that blacks aren't snobs, they're patronized by snobs. Also, he doesn't seem haughty. He seems like a nice man. Also the person exploiting his gaffe is Mrs. Clinton.

* * *

Meanwhile, John McCain makes daily, small, incremental gains. He happily watches the Democrats fight and happily advances his cause. Did you see him on "Hardball" the other night with the college students of Villanova? They were beside themselves at the sight of him. It seems to me it would be a brilliant thing for him to announce he means to be a one-term president, that he means to have a clean, serious, one-term presidency in which he will do things those under pressure of re-election do not and cannot do. This would be received as a refreshment, a way out for the voters in a year they seem to want a way out. For many in the middle it would be a twofer. You get a good man, for only four years, and Mr. Obama gets to grow and deepen. He'll be better older.

The downside? Americans like knowing they can fire a president. It's how they keep them in line. And lame-duckness from day one would not be empowering.

If Mr. McCain went this route, how and when he said it would be everything. As with Mrs. Clinton, timing will be everything.

See all of today's editorials and op-eds, plus video commentary, on Opinion Journal1.

And add your comments to the Opinion Journal forum2.

[omar little]

ja sam neshto optimisticna pa cu joj dat' samo +5%

[pitt]

ja sam neshto optimisticna pa cu joj dat' samo +5%

ma PA jebe sto pored Floride ima najvise matorih prdonja. Oni svi odreda nju vole....hebe im se kad nece sljedeceg predsjednika ni docekati zivi.

[jeza u ledja]

Jos malo scare tactics, neocon style.

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April 21, 2008
Clinton uses Pearl Harbor, bin Laden images in new ad
Posted: 06:00 PM ET

Clinton is launching a new ad that includes images of Osama bin Laden
(CNN) — With only one day left until voters in Pennsylvania head to the polls, Hillary Clinton launched a television ad there that includes images from the attacks on Pearl Harbor, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and Osama Bin Laden.

"It’s the toughest job in the world," a narrator states in the 30-second spot. "You need to be ready for anything – especially now, with two wars, oil prices skyrocketing, and an economy in crisis.

"Harry Truman said it best – if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Who do you think has what it takes?"

That comment appears to echo Clinton's recent criticisms of Obama for expressing disapproval of the ABC News debate last week during which the Illinois senator was asked several pointed questions.

“Being asked tough questions in a debate is nothing like the pressures you face inside the White House,” Clinton said Friday. “In fact, when the going gets tough, you just can’t walk away because we’re going to have some very tough decisions that we have to make. I think we need a president who can take whatever comes your way.”

Bill Clinton also weighed in last week, saying, "This is contact sport if you don't want to play keep your uniform off."

In a conference call with reporters, Clinton strategist Geoff Garin characterized the new spot as a positive one.


“Unlike Senator Obama's closing argument which has really been negative, and an assault on Senator Clinton…we wanted to bring this choice back to what's really important here, which is the critical issues facing our country and the need for a president who has the strength and the knowledge to take on the tough challenges facing our country," he said.

Obama's campaign responded to the ad by circulating an image of a 1992 Clinton-Gore campaign poster that states, "Vote your hopes, not your fears."

From: CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney




FUJJ!!!!

[pitt]

gledao sam veceras.....uzas zivi

Ovo je priceless

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyhIBXNfqMA

[pitt]

sto je kamera ufati nezgodno

[omar little]

sto je kamera ufati nezgodno

zamisli kako ce sad kukat' o shovinizmu il' ce naci nachin da krivi Husu za ovo...Huso bi se trebao automatski i kategoricki ograditi od ovog

[pitt]

sta huso ima sa ovim....sama se postavila
Dobar je huso bio sinoc na Daily Show.....zajebava se

[omar little]

sta huso ima sa ovim....sama se postavila
Dobar je huso bio sinoc na Daily Show.....zajebava se

aaaa, propustih to...moram skinut' s neta...jel' nadje huso vremena za bill maher-a i on ga je zvao ali Huso bio bizi?

[pitt]

pogledaj da nema na youtube....ili comedy central

[DobroJutroKolumbo]

Nisam mogao da odolim, a da se malo ne poigram sa ovom slikom HAHAHHAHA!!!

[novljanin03]

ko glasa za ovu vjesticu ruke mu se oduzele ..pogotovo Bosancima koji glasaju ...
Go Huso ...

[jeza u ledja]

sta huso ima sa ovim....sama se postavila
Dobar je huso bio sinoc na Daily Show.....zajebava se

Obama inace ostavlja dojam nekog opustenog kome ovakav posao prirodno ide od ruke. S druge strane Hilka...yunno... ostavlja dojam streberke koja je nabubala svoje gradivo, yunno, i sada zbog svog tog ulozenog truda ne moze da shvati, yunno , kako jedan dojucerasnji anonimus smijesnog imena moze uzeti nagradu njoj ispred nosa, yunno.
Isto ko da gledas amerikan ajdol ili tako nesto i tamo imas nekog super talentovanog i nekog ko ono ko zna nesto ali vidis da je to sve skolski nabubano pa se trudi iz petnih zila, ali djaba, uvijek na kraju zavrsava iza ovog talenta. Mogu misliti koju to frustraciju stvara.

Inace, ovaj Obama je poceo skupljati (i trositi) nevidjene sume novca. Neki dan slusam da je (ne znam jesu li govorili za april ili mart) sakupio $44mil dok je Hilka u istom tom periodu skupila samo $9mil, a McCain $12mil. To su ogromne razlike. Naravno, ne pobjedi uvijek onaj sa najvise para, ali najcesce da. Cudno je jer su do sada uvijek Republikanci imali vise para od Demokrata. Kako je krenulo sumnjam da ce McCain uspjeti doci blizu zarade Obame.

[omar little]

sta huso ima sa ovim....sama se postavila
Dobar je huso bio sinoc na Daily Show.....zajebava se

Obama inace ostavlja dojam nekog opustenog kome ovakav posao prirodno ide od ruke. S druge strane Hilka...yunno... ostavlja dojam streberke koja je nabubala svoje gradivo, yunno, i sada zbog svog tog ulozenog truda ne moze da shvati, yunno , kako jedan dojucerasnji anonimus smijesnog imena moze uzeti nagradu njoj ispred nosa, yunno.
Isto ko da gledas amerikan ajdol ili tako nesto i tamo imas nekog super talentovanog i nekog ko ono ko zna nesto ali vidis da je to sve skolski nabubano pa se trudi iz petnih zila, ali djaba, uvijek na kraju zavrsava iza ovog talenta. Mogu misliti koju to frustraciju stvara.

Inace, ovaj Obama je poceo skupljati (i trositi) nevidjene sume novca. Neki dan slusam da je (ne znam jesu li govorili za april ili mart) sakupio $44mil dok je Hilka u istom tom periodu skupila samo $9mil, a McCain $12mil. To su ogromne razlike. Naravno, ne pobjedi uvijek onaj sa najvise para, ali najcesce da. Cudno je jer su do sada uvijek Republikanci imali vise para od Demokrata. Kako je krenulo sumnjam da ce McCain uspjeti doci blizu zarade Obame.

Streberka i to ona sto je uvijek sjedila u prvom redu i dizala ruku na svako pitanje: znam ja, znam ja, mogul' ja... pa kad neko drugi odgovori hoce nesto da joj bude

I ja sam neki dan citala o parama i ja mislim da se republikanci nisu josh zahuktali. S obzirom da se jos odigravaju zakulisani razgovori izmedju frakcija u republikanskoj stranci (sta ce ko od McCain-a dobit' za glasove), oni cekaju glavne izbore da ukljuce korporacijsku, krishcansku i sve ostale masine. Meni je interesantno i to da Husili , pored velikih donatora, ima puno vise malih; znaci puno vise ljudi ga podrzava sa malim sumama. Mislim, i demokrate ce ubacit' u petu brzinu kad dobiju kanditata, moraju nema im druge.

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Streberka ....

E, ali zaboravljaš da štreberi ipak ponekad nauče mnogo više od onih talentovanih, i da na kraju društvo od njih može imati mnogo više koristi.Da budem iskren, mene najviše i odbija ta urođena lakoća Obame, naime što sam stariji sve više i više počinjem cijeniti one koji teškom mukom nadoknađuju odsustvo bogom danog talenta.

[jeza u ledja]

Streberka ....

E, ali zaboravljaš da štreberi ipak ponekad nauče mnogo više od onih talentovanih, i da na kraju društvo od njih može imati mnogo više koristi.Da budem iskren, mene najviše i odbija ta urođena lakoća Obame, naime što sam stariji sve više i više počinjem cijeniti one koji teškom mukom nadoknađuju odsustvo bogom danog talenta.

Mene npr privlaci urodjena lakoca s kojom je Obama stigao tu gdje jeste s pozicije sa koje je krenuo, dok je Hilka kao odskocnu dasku imala svog muza, od kojeg je ocigledno nabubala napamet program.

[omar little]

Streberka ....

E, ali zaboravljaš da štreberi ipak ponekad nauče mnogo više od onih talentovanih, i da na kraju društvo od njih može imati mnogo više koristi.Da budem iskren, mene najviše i odbija ta urođena lakoća Obame, naime što sam stariji sve više i više počinjem cijeniti one koji teškom mukom nadoknađuju odsustvo bogom danog talenta.

Nisam ja rekla da ne cijenim teskom mukom steceni rad, Boze sacuvaj. Pa, i Huso je tesko radio da bi stigao tu gdje jeste, i njegov je bonus sto je jos i karizmatican i talentovan. Hillary je obrazovana, sposobna i pametna zena, ali mi se gadi zbog republikanske taktike koju koristi da se dokopa moci i sto smatra (ili je smatrala do neki dan) da joj je kanditatura trebala biti zagarantovana zbog toga ko je i sta je.

[laku noć]

ko glasa za ovu vjesticu ruke mu se oduzele ..pogotovo Bosancima koji glasaju ...
Go Huso ...

Pa da nije bilo "vještičinog " muža vjerovatno ne bi bilo ni tebe

[pike]

sta huso ima sa ovim....sama se postavila
Dobar je huso bio sinoc na Daily Show.....zajebava se

aaaa, propustih to...moram skinut' s neta...jel' nadje huso vremena za bill maher-a i on ga je zvao ali Huso bio bizi?

Bill maher je u jednoj od epizoda bas spomeno to kako Hilary i Obama odbijaju da dodju na njegov show (pogotovo sad kako je papu isprasio ) ali sam zaboravio iz kojeg razloga.

[jeza u ledja]

ko glasa za ovu vjesticu ruke mu se oduzele ..pogotovo Bosancima koji glasaju ...
Go Huso ...

Pa da nije bilo "vještičinog " muža vjerovatno ne bi bilo ni tebe

Da nije bilo 'vjestice' bilo bi nas mnogo vise.

Nije nimalo smijesno, dapace, stravicno je.

Evo sta je Christopher Hitchens rekao u vezi Hillary i njenog navodnog protivljenja da se zaustavi rat u BiH.

Vrlo zanimljivo...

[water]

odoh kuci, obuc bijelu sulju pa na glasovanje. Ja cu za Nasu Stranku

[omar little]

sta huso ima sa ovim....sama se postavila
Dobar je huso bio sinoc na Daily Show.....zajebava se

aaaa, propustih to...moram skinut' s neta...jel' nadje huso vremena za bill maher-a i on ga je zvao ali Huso bio bizi?

Bill maher je u jednoj od epizoda bas spomeno to kako Hilary i Obama odbijaju da dodju na njegov show (pogotovo sad kako je papu isprasio ) ali sam zaboravio iz kojeg razloga.

Gledala sam ja to, nije Huso odbio nego nisu mogli naci vremena u rasporedu. Bill-u se zalio neki radio host sto Huso nije dosao na neki njegov seminar pa mu je Bill rekao da to nije iz licnih/osobnih razloga, nego je Huso prezauzet. A za Hillary ne znam. Uf, sto bi to dobra emisija bila da dodje Hilka cika-Billu malo na razgovor
A kad je to papu isprashendo sad, u prosli petak? Zadnje dvije epizode nisam torentovala , moram sto prije, da ne zaostanem...

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Bill maher je u jednoj od epizoda bas spomeno to kako Hilary i Obama odbijaju da dodju na njegov show (pogotovo sad kako je papu isprasio ) ali sam zaboravio iz kojeg razloga.

Gledala sam ja to, nije Huso odbio nego nisu mogli naci vremena u rasporedu. Bill-u se zalio neki radio host sto Huso nije dosao na neki njegov seminar pa mu je Bill rekao da to nije iz licnih/osobnih razloga, nego je Huso prezauzet. A za Hillary ne znam. Uf, sto bi to dobra emisija bila da dodje Hilka cika-Billu malo na razgovor
A kad je to papu isprashendo sad, u prosli petak? Zadnje dvije epizode nisam torentovala , moram sto prije, da ne zaostanem...

Evo ovdje imas zadnje dvije epizode u kojima je isprasio papu. April 11 i April 18 u "new rules" dijelu emisije.

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