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General War wrote:

dezurni_ucenik wrote:A viza za UK?

A sta's u UK? zima, magla, zene grobovi

dezurni_ucenik wrote:

General War wrote:

dezurni_ucenik wrote:A viza za UK?

A sta's u UK? zima, magla, zene grobovi

Je li trebala viza?

muha_sa wrote:

General War wrote:-)

ko nam razvali Jugoslaviju

tata ga jebal

GeeTnT wrote:

muha_sa wrote:

General War wrote:-)

ko nam razvali Jugoslaviju

tata ga jebal

...Nije tata, nego ćale ga yeba..

General War wrote:

GeeTnT wrote:
...Nije tata, nego ćale ga yeba..

..a i babo

muha_sa wrote:

General War wrote:

GeeTnT wrote:
...Nije tata, nego ćale ga yeba..

..a i babo

ko je razvali

reci ovoj djeci--ja znam

muha_sa wrote:
ko je razvali

reci ovoj djeci--ja znam

GeeTnT wrote:

muha_sa wrote: reci ovoj djeci--ja znam

Reci ce ti da je kriv babo, tata, tatko....samo ćale nije kriv jer je bio rezervista i branio otadzbinu...

General War wrote:

GeeTnT wrote:

muha_sa wrote: reci ovoj djeci--ja znam

Reci ce ti da je kriv babo, tata, tatko....samo ćale nije kriv jer je bio rezervista i branio otadzbinu...

Kao sto ce ti i ovaj lik reci da cale ne zivi u bosni, samo preko drine.
Zeko svasta lagi ovdje.

General War wrote:

insomnia78 wrote:

General War wrote:

Izbrisi ovo. Ne brukaj se

insomnia78 wrote:Fotosopirane naslovnice tesko da se mogu mjeriti sa tim

General War wrote:

insomnia78 wrote:Fotosopirane naslovnice tesko da se mogu mjeriti sa tim

Opet zeko reko
Kako se kad treba sve moze naci

insomnia78 wrote: Ta se slika vrti po internetu od kako je isti nastao

muha_sa wrote:

General War wrote:
Za razliku od većine tadašnjih socijalističkih (pa i onih "zapadnih") zemalja, prosječan Jugosloven je mogao bez puno komplikacija da dođe do pasoša, a onda i da slobodno putuje po priličnom broju svjetskih država.
Jugoslovenski pasoš je izdavan građanima Socijalističke Federativne Republike Jugoslavije u svrhu međunarodnih putovanja. Bio je veoma cijenjen posebno kod naših imigranata koji su dobijali poslove kod evropskih firmi koje su trgovale sa zemljama istočnog bloka. Često je opisivan i kao jedan od najpraktičnijih pasoša svog vremena jer je bio jedan od rijetkih s kojim se tokom hladnog rata slobodno moglo putovati i po Zapadu i po Istoku.
Odmah poslije Drugog svjetskog rata i nije baš bilo lako doći do pasoša. Ali, negdje šezdesetih godina se sve počelo mijenjati nabolje. Od tada, Jugoslavija je sa velikim brojem zemalja počela potpisivati međudržavne ugovore o međusobnom ukidanju viza. Vize su neizostavno bile potrebne jedino za najbliži "komšiluk" Grčku i Albaniju; za Grčku zbog dugogodišnjeg spora oko "makedonskog pitanja", a za potpuno zatvorenu Albaniju zbog političkih problema sa režimom Envera Hodže. Naravno, vizu su nam tražile i tadašnje blokovske sile SSSR i SAD.
Vlasnik jugoslovenskog pasoša imao je privilegiju da može birati stranu na koju će krenuti. Kada su odnosi sa socijalističkim zemljama otoplili, Jugosloveni su i po tom dijelu svijeta mogli da se kreću bez problema, što je tada za stanovnike zapadnih zemalja bilo nezamislivo. Dobri odnosi sa nesvrstanim zemljama učinili su da je i u najudaljenim krajevima pokazivanje crvenog jugoslovenskog pasoša otvaralo mnoga vrata, za druge čvrsto zatvorena. Ostaci tog poštovanja i danas se mogu naći u nekim zemljama kada se pomene Jugoslavija. Vlasnik yu pasoša nije imao problema ni sa domaćim ni sa stranim vlastima oko svojih putovanja.
Za većinu naših ljudi, takvo stanje izgledalo je kao nepromjenjivo i prirodno. S druge strane, putujući po zemljama istočne Evrope, nismo se mogli oteti utisku kako tim ljudima pasoš ništa ne znači ili ga čak i nemaju jer ih matična država ne pušta da iz nje slobodno izađu. Poljski, rumunski, bugarski i dr. državljani istočnog bloka morali su vaditi posebne pasoše za putovanje kroz istočni, a posebne za zapadni blok. Sve je to bilo jako komplikovano a mogli su ih koristiti samo jednom godišnje ili čak samo jednom na svakih nekoliko godina.

ko nam razvali Jugoslaviju

tata ga jebal

Connaisseur Karlin wrote: pasos je bio odlican, ali za jugoslavene koji su imali novac za putovanje , a to je bio nizak procenat popualcije

interessantno, pasos se uvijek koristi kao argument kako je Juga bila bolja od drzava istocnog bloka

In fact, border-crossings had not always been that
easy for Yugoslav citizens. Immediately after the Second World War, they did not travel
freely to states either in the US- or in the USSR-dominated zones; this became feasible
only after the Yugoslav repositioning in-between the Cold War blocs. From the 1950s
onwards some governments reduced restrictions for Yugoslav citizens and the Yugoslav
government itself lifted travel permit requirements for its citizens. In the 1960s, partly
in order to cope with domestic unemployment through guest work (Woodward 1995),
a growing number of mutual agreements on visa-free entry were signed. Eventually this
applied to the vast majority of states on the globe, excluding, for example, the USA,
Albania, China, Israel, and Greece, but including over a hundred Non-Aligned states
and, more importantly in terms of proximity and likelihood for travel, almost all
European states in both the Eastern and the Western blocs (Tuduric´ 2008).9 In late Cold
War times the Yugoslav passport thus certified one for wider and easier cross-border
mobility than any other passport I know of.
Reflecting similar practices in other states (O’Byrne 2001: 402; Torpey 1998: 251), the
Yugoslav issuing of passports was linked with certain standards of good citizenship, and
therefore some persons, such as those who had at some point been imprisoned for
alleged pro-Stalinist activities, were unable to obtain travel documents. However, such
restrictions applied to a small minority only, and, judging from the prominence of
anti-Yugoslav nationalists in emigration circles, policies seem to have been directed
rather at letting ‘undesirables’ leave (with secret service surveillance). Of course, like
most of the world’s population, many Yugoslavs rarely or never travelled abroad. This
could have been due to lack of desire, to financial constraints, but also to
administrative-political reasons. For example, those working in the army (even as
civilians) were restricted in the use of their passports: some people’s documents were
kept by the army and, when foreign travel was authorized, they could be called for
interviews upon return. Nevertheless, eventually, perhaps half of Yugoslavia’s adult
population had passports,10 and could, in principle, travel easily to almost all of Europe
and well beyond.
And they did so in large numbers, whether as tourists (especially amongst so-called
urban ‘middle layers’), as gastarbajteri (guest workers – especially from specific [semi-]
rural regions), or as shoppers (with Trieste a favourite destination). In any case, after
the end of Yugoslavia, the fondness with which the previous possibility to travel was
recalled seemed largely unrelated to whether one had actually crossed borders with
some frequency. Instead, now that visa regimes made travel very difficult even for those
who could afford it, what counted was the retrospective knowledge that the Yugoslav
passport had once certified one as worthy of easy border-crossings