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Leverage wrote:Kakva hrpa ostrašćenih ignorantnih likova skromnog vokabulara i nedoraslih za civilizovanu diskusiju. Zamisli samo takav mentalni sklop koji nekog naziva ljubiteljem koljača samo zato jer ne drži njegovu stranu u ratu. A takve osobe šetaju svuda oko nas, vjerovatno ta informacija u običnom čovjeku izaziva nelagodu.

Za vašu informaciju, rat se vodi u Siriji, ne na ovoj temi. To što su neki od vas odlučili da sebi daju na značaju iako ga naravno nemaju, ne obavezuje ama baš nikoga da vas ozbiljno shvati.

Leverage wrote:Kakva hrpa ostrašćenih ignorantnih likova skromnog vokabulara i nedoraslih za civilizovanu diskusiju. Zamisli samo takav mentalni sklop koji nekog naziva ljubiteljem koljača samo zato jer ne drži njegovu stranu u ratu. A takve osobe šetaju svuda oko nas, vjerovatno ta informacije u običnom čovjeku izaziva nelagodu.

Za vašu informaciju, rat se vodi u Siriji, ne na ovoj temi. To što su neki od vas odlučili da sebi daju na značaju iako ga naravno nemaju, ne obavezuje ama baš nikoga da vas ozbiljno shvati.

sarajevoxxxx wrote:Forumaše koji brane Asadov režim na ovoj temi najviše i banuju.

- I think @realDonaldTrump is completely serious and honest about withdrawing American forces from Syria. He promised this during his election campaign, and has 2020 election campaigns coming up, and he's fulfilled good part of electoral promises.

- During elections, @realDonaldTrump asked why U.S. was spending trillions and shedding its blood in these areas. He had to travel to Iraq secretly and left secretly, which is an admission of American defeat.

- @realDonaldTrump is better than @BarackObama. Obama talked about human rights, etc. Trump was blunt - talked about American interests only, allies paying protection money. This was particularly insulting to Saudi Arabia

- In my opinion, @realDonaldTrump from day one wanted to pull US troops out of Syria. His advisors convinced him to be patient, because US withdrawal would serve Iran.

- @realDonaldTrump announced about 8 months ago that US would withdraw from Syria. Mattis and others lost their mind, because it would be a free victory for Iran. They convinced him to wait 6 months so they could accomplish some kind of victory.

- 6 months wasn't officially announced, but @CNN and others revealed that Mattis/others convinced @realDonaldTrump to give them 6-month window to accomplish victory in Syria.

- The American price for withdrawal became that US forces would withdraw at same time as Iranian forces and Hezbollah. This was conveyed to Russians. Putin conveyed it to @HassanRouhani, and Rouhani conveyed this to me.

- I responded that the Americans will withdraw from Syria whether Iran/its allies withdraw or not. The Iranians rejected the American demand, and Assad also rejected demand for an Iranian withdrawal.

- Also, the Russians didn't pressure us or the Iranians to withdraw. They simply conveyed the American message - and did so politely. When we rejected, they accepted and conveyed rejection to the Americans.

- When Americans received our rejection, they used their remaining time to focus on defeating ISIS. When 6 months were up, Americans had accomplished nothing.

- As for why @realDonaldTrump wants to withdraw? It's because Syria, its people, democracy, don't matter to him. Israel, some groups there and some red lines, matter to him, and Trump thinks he can enforce these red lines without American presence in Syria.

- @realDonaldTrump can apply American military pressure in Syria w/o American presence in Syria. They can cary out strikes from Odeid Airbase in Qatar for example. This is a new strategy I call the Trump Version of American projecgt in the Middle East.

- So this isn't just a tactical maneuver by Trump. But American withdrawal from Syria is a failure and defeat.

- @realDonaldTrump's withdrawal announcement, and declaration that US won't be world police in the region, terrified their allies in the region, including Saudi Arabia.

- There were reverberations to this American decision. After @realDonaldTrump announced withdrawal, Kurdish forces came to Beirut to talk to Hezbollah to find a solution w/Syrian regime, and then turned to Russia and Iraq.

- American decision for withdrawal also caused an Arab snowball effect of attempting to reconcile with Syrian regime: including visit of Sudanese president to Damascus w/Saudi green light, UAE reopening embassy in Damascus, etc.

- Mattis resignation/Syrian withdrawal caused panic in Saudi Arabia and UAE. They convened in Abu Dhabi and outcome was view that Turkey - and not Iran - was prime threat in Syria, they could negotiate w/Assad, and deal w/Russia.

- In Saudi/UAE view, Iran - because it is Shiite country - can only have limited influence in Syria. Turkey, which is Sunni, can have more influence. Its victory in Syria would be regional threat because of its alliance w/Muslim Brotherhood.

- Saudi/UAE therefore decided they could work w/Assad, and have detente w/Iran, because this is the lesser of two evils compared to Erdogan's regional project and threat it poses to Gulf States.

- @SecPompeo and David Hale then toured the region in order to reassure these countries.

- However, I tell everyone - and particularly the Israelis - the Americans will not be able to do more than they have already done in this region. They will leave Syria and the entire region. They're even conceding that the Taliban is the gov't in Afghanistan.

- @realDonaldTrump will not come to @netanyahu or MBS' rescue. The US are in no position to reinvade the region or wage war. What US wants to do is reassemble regional allies, with their own funds, to place them at the forefront of confrontation w/Iran.

- Several high-ranking Arab officials have visited Syria, but I can't reveal their identity.

- The Americans failed in Syria, and the most disappointed person from that is @netanyahu.

#Hezbollah Nasrallah reveals #SDF, #USA main allies in northeast #Syria, came to visit Hezbollah in #Lebanon asking for a mediation with President #Assad to negotiate their status and, from Beirut - he reveals - left to #Moscow for the same purpose.

https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1089258721010683907

Leverage wrote:Kakva hrpa ostrašćenih ignorantnih likova skromnog vokabulara i nedoraslih za civilizovanu diskusiju. Zamisli samo takav mentalni sklop koji nekog naziva ljubiteljem koljača samo zato jer ne drži njegovu stranu u ratu. A takve osobe šetaju svuda oko nas, vjerovatno ta informacija u običnom čovjeku izaziva nelagodu.

Za vašu informaciju, rat se vodi u Siriji, ne na ovoj temi. To što su neki od vas odlučili da sebi daju na značaju iako ga naravno nemaju, ne obavezuje ama baš nikoga da vas ozbiljno shvati.

sarajevoxxxx wrote:

To za diskusiju si dobro rekao. Forumaše koji brane Asadov režim na ovoj temi najviše i banuju. Kakva crna civilizovana diskusija sa njima Za njih su novinari Indexa, Njujork Tajmsa Isilovci

sarajevoxxxx wrote:

Isil kakav je takav je, proizvod je okolnosti, i manje više ima podršku naroda.Narod u Siriji želi da se prekine sa masakrima.Sirijska opozicija zajedno sa svojim prijateljima iz međunarodne zajednice sasvim mirno posmatra klaonicu, mirno gleda na svakodnevne masakre, čak šta više svjetskim agencijama mrsko i da izvještava o tim masakrima.Taj narod da ima bolji izbor od isila sigurno bi dao prednost tom presvjetlom izboru, koji odiše i puca civilizacijom, modernošću, pravdom

U suštini narod želi samo da se odbrani, a nije da isil nije u stanju da ih odbrani. Ljudima je bitno da se riješe Asada, da se stane sa masakrima, u njima su vidjeli snagu i to je to.FSA je dvije godine stražarila oko Tabke, nisu ništa uradili, ovi došli sve pomeli, i tako je sve krenulo.

sarajevoxxxx wrote:
- Da li ih osuđujem. Bože sačuvaj, ni u snu. Ni njih ni ISIL ni Nusru. Je li dovoljno otvoreno

japin_mutapi wrote:imamo pobjednika

karakters wrote:

tetejac wrote:

Leverage wrote:Kakva hrpa ostrašćenih ignorantnih likova skromnog vokabulara i nedoraslih za civilizovanu diskusiju. Zamisli samo takav mentalni sklop koji nekog naziva ljubiteljem koljača samo zato jer ne drži njegovu stranu u ratu. A takve osobe šetaju svuda oko nas, vjerovatno ta informacija u običnom čovjeku izaziva nelagodu.

Za vašu informaciju, rat se vodi u Siriji, ne na ovoj temi. To što su neki od vas odlučili da sebi daju na značaju iako ga naravno nemaju, ne obavezuje ama baš nikoga da vas ozbiljno shvati.

Aha, nismo na tvom nivou jelde?
E hvala ti, baš sam tebe čekao da mi objasniš šta je rat u realnom vremenu.

Ma vidis da je nako natakareno dijete koje nema veze sa zivotom, vrijedno strebo knjige da prosiri vokabular, nije nigdje izlazio, dobio licnu kartu i sa njom veliki poriv da nesto kaze, uzvikne kakvu knjisku parolu o altruizmu, kritickom razmisljanju, moralnoj superiornosti.

japin_mutapi wrote:ti si sampion

tetejac wrote: Mlad i zelen a istrošio se vremenom skroz na skroz

seln wrote:

salik79 wrote:
A der Spiegel je poznat po "istinitim" prilozims o Siriji. Cak su i visestruko nagradjavani za to. Pitajte Claasa Relotiusa.

Jak argument, nema sta...
jedan novinar je lagao, znaci citav Spiegel laze.
No, ako ti je tako lakse, slobodno vjeruj u bratsku ljubav Rusa, Irana i Asada.

- Turski, alii ruski izvori navode kako je u tišini ruska vojna policija zamijenila ili “dopunila” američke rendžere sjeverno od Manbija, gdje su američke snage imale tri manje terenske “baze”.



Sa sva tri mjesta, Oushrie, Rafiaa i Dadat, objavljene su fotografija na kojima se vide pripadnici ruske vojne policije.

Challenger_ wrote:

- Turski, alii ruski izvori navode kako je u tišini ruska vojna policija zamijenila ili “dopunila” američke rendžere sjeverno od Manbija, gdje su američke snage imale tri manje terenske “baze”.



Sa sva tri mjesta, Oushrie, Rafiaa i Dadat, objavljene su fotografija na kojima se vide pripadnici ruske vojne policije.

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