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#12426 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Mlohavi wrote:
Garant i ovim irackim vojnicima nesto slicno prode kroz glavu kad ugledaju ova vozila da idu prema njima...
Neg' ja mislim da bi skroz fora bila vidjeti i cuti reakciju jedne prosjecne jedinice ARBiH dok bi ISILove samoubice jurile prema njima. Ne mogu ni zamisliti taj dijapazon psovki pomijesanih s dovama i tekbirima. :lol: :lol: :evil:
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bilo bi svega, ali dobar snajper svašta riješi kao i dobra atgm ekipa :mrgreen:
ne znam kako se do sad nisu uvježbali
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#12427 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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jao_situacije wrote:
Mlohavi wrote:
:lol:
bilo bi svega, ali dobar snajper svašta riješi kao i dobra atgm ekipa :mrgreen:
ne znam kako se do sad nisu uvježbali
Toliko puta su im ove izolovane baze razvalili na istu foru, i meni je vec van svake pameti da se vec nekako nisu prilagodili ovim napadima.
Hajde ATGM i snajperisti na stranu, toliko fizickih barijera koje im mogu spasiti glave... Zemlja kO stvorena za lopatanja al' dzaba, izgleda biraju da dova im bude najjaca odbrana.
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#12428 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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hAZNADAR wrote:Njemacki novinar koji je bio u zarobljenistvu ISIL pusten.
I tvrdi da se ISIS jedino boji Izraela i izraelske vojske.

http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/njema ... /160102069

Znaci nisu ga priklali, ispricali mu da se boje izraelske vojske, i sa tim informacijama ga pustili.

Ocigledno je da je ISIS i racunao na to da ova njihova "tajna" bude plasirana.


Mogu da se kladim da je plan da jednog dana "pobjedonosna slavna izraelska vojska" bude prisutna i u Siriji i Iraku,...
A ja budala vjerovao da se jedino Allaha boje. :oops:
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#12429 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Mlohavi wrote:
jao_situacije wrote:
Mlohavi wrote:
:lol:
bilo bi svega, ali dobar snajper svašta riješi kao i dobra atgm ekipa :mrgreen:
ne znam kako se do sad nisu uvježbali
Toliko puta su im ove izolovane baze razvalili na istu foru, i meni je vec van svake pameti da se vec nekako nisu prilagodili ovim napadima.
Hajde ATGM i snajperisti na stranu, toliko fizickih barijera koje im mogu spasiti glave... Zemlja kO stvorena za lopatanja al' dzaba, izgleda biraju da dova im bude najjaca odbrana.
bolje da iskopaju kanal, nego ona brda što prave
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#12430 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Vidi se da ovi arapi nisu za ratovanja i da su i tu zaostali u srednjem vijeku.
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#12431 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Do ISILovih propagandnih snimaka doguraju samo lijepa i utegnuta mad max vozila. Ovakve nikad ne vidamo. :cry:

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#12432 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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''Vazdušni desanti koji su sve češći i koje izvode snage međunarodne koalicije u samom gradu Mosulu kao i u okolini, je stvarni početak oslobađanja grada Mosula. Dok se Isil koncentrisao na linije na kojima se nalaze Pešmerge i Al Hašd Al Vatani i bezuspješno napadao Bašiku i Al Hazar, a potom i na En-Nuran i Mahmur, i dok se pripremao za napad na Sindžar, odnosno na područja zapadno od Mosula, snage međunarodna koalicije su pokazale da su u stanju izvršiti vazdušne desante na svakom dijelu pokrajine Nineva....Cijeli vazdušni prostor Nineve se pretvorio u ratnu zonu, i Isil je u situaciji da konstantno očekuje nove napade. Kako se budu ponavljale akcije vazdušnog desanta, možemo kazati da su već počele ozbiljne pripreme za vojnu operaciju oslobađanja Mosula. Isil neće moći odrediti iz kog pravca će početi vojne operacije prema Mosulu. Koalicija je ta koja će odrediti prirodu operacije, i pravce odakle će se djelovati. Dakle, Isil je postao svijestan da u Mosulu neće ostati još dugo, zbog toga mu je sada taktika da udara na snage koje će ostati u Mosulu nakon oslobađanja''.

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#12433 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Point. wrote:Vidi se da ovi arapi nisu za ratovanja i da su i tu zaostali u srednjem vijeku.
Nek si im rek'o. :mrgreen: Olakšaj si. :mrgreen:
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#12434 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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jao_situacije wrote:
Mlohavi wrote:Ovaj mali desno, kO da mu nije drago. :oops:

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Provincija Anbar, nedaleko od granice s Saudijskom Arabijom, ISILov dvostruki samoubilacki napad. Van svake pameti mi je da jos uvijek nisu pronasli nacin kako zaustaviti ove napade na ovako preglednom terenu. :-)
Valjda uskoro bude i video.
konta kako se ja uvalih :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uA-QLYzZ84 :lol:
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#12435 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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skupljac_zeljeza wrote:
Point. wrote:Vidi se da ovi arapi nisu za ratovanja i da su i tu zaostali u srednjem vijeku.
Nek si im rek'o. :mrgreen: Olakšaj si. :mrgreen:
Pa zaostali su. U svakom pogledu. Nisam im ja kriv sto im je Bog dao naftu, a pamet nazalost ne.
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#12436 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Point. wrote:
skupljac_zeljeza wrote:
Point. wrote:Vidi se da ovi arapi nisu za ratovanja i da su i tu zaostali u srednjem vijeku.
Nek si im rek'o. :mrgreen: Olakšaj si. :mrgreen:
Pa zaostali su. U svakom pogledu. Nisam im ja kriv sto im je Bog dao naftu, a pamet nazalost ne.
Ma nije lijepo zavidjeti. Oni uživaju u petrodolarima, a ti u kritici njih i svima lijepo.
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#12437 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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skupljac_zeljeza wrote:
Ma nije lijepo zavidjeti. Oni uživaju u petrodolarima, a ti u kritici njih i svima lijepo.
Mislis kraljevi im i 100.000 raznih princeva uzivaju u petrodolarima, dok obican narod ne?
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#12438 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Point. wrote:
skupljac_zeljeza wrote:
Ma nije lijepo zavidjeti. Oni uživaju u petrodolarima, a ti u kritici njih i svima lijepo.
Mislis kraljevi im i 100.000 raznih princeva uzivaju u petrodolarima, dok obican narod ne?
Okoristi se i 'običan narod', ali nisu milioneri kao prinčevi.
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#12439 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Mlohavi wrote:Ovaj mali desno, kO da mu nije drago. :oops:
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#12440 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Mlohavi wrote:Ovaj mali desno, kO da mu nije drago. :oops:

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Meni se cini da je bio video sa ovim malim prije par dana, momka fino smjestili u vozilo a lik place k'o godina. Nisam siguran, gledao sam video samo par sekundi jer mi se fakat smucilo.
Znam da je bio Daesh, znam da je Sirija ili Irak, znam da sam gledao taj video prije 4-5 dana i znam da je momak pljuniti ovaj na fotki.
Sad nisam 100% siguran jel' to isti napad i isti lik.
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#12441 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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jao_situacije wrote:
Mlohavi wrote:
jao_situacije wrote:
konta kako se ja uvalih :-)
Jebem i ISIL i Irak, sto je meni ovo trebalo. Kud cu sad u PM...
a fino mi je mater govorila ufati se sine knjige, eto mi sad
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#12442 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Opetja033 wrote:
Meni se cini da je bio video sa ovim malim prije par dana, momka fino smjestili u vozilo a lik place k'o godina. Nisam siguran, gledao sam video samo par sekundi jer mi se fakat smucilo.
Znam da je bio Daesh, znam da je Sirija ili Irak, znam da sam gledao taj video prije 4-5 dana i znam da je momak pljuniti ovaj na fotki.
Sad nisam 100% siguran jel' to isti napad i isti lik.
Vrlo vjerovatno da je isti momcic u pitanju, ovo je valjda iz decembarskih napada u Iraku.
Zao mi je sto se djecak primio za tu bolesnu ideologiju, sto se raznio, bas i nije. Zao mi onih koje je ubio, ma ko bili...
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#12443 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Peshmerga :D

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Najodaniji saveznici Nijemci ne prestaju sa gomilanjem oruzja u Kurdistanu... Poslali su i novih 50 instruktora koji ce obucavati Pesmerge. Evidentno je da zapad od njih zeli napraviti mocnu vojsku! A iracki Kurdi imaju pare da sve to finansiraju!
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#12444 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Opetja033 wrote:Meni se cini da je bio video sa ovim malim prije par dana, momka fino smjestili u vozilo a lik place k'o godina. Nisam siguran, gledao sam video samo par sekundi jer mi se fakat smucilo.Znam da je bio Daesh, znam da je Sirija ili Irak, znam da sam gledao taj video prije 4-5 dana i znam da je momak pljuniti ovaj na fotki.Sad nisam 100% siguran jel' to isti napad i isti lik.
mislim da nije isti

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#12445 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Young American finds fame with the Peshmerga

http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/050120161

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Picka izdajnicka, presao iz YPG u Peshmerge! :D

2.15 visok decko! :D
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#12446 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Ovi Kurdi ce presisat i ISIL po broju stranaca.
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#12447 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Turkish soldiers repel ISIS attack on Bashiq camp, killing 17 militants
Ubise Turci 'arane. 8)

http://rudaw.net/NewsDetails.aspx?pageid=185092
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#12448 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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vivaldi wrote:
Opetja033 wrote:Meni se cini da je bio video sa ovim malim prije par dana, momka fino smjestili u vozilo a lik place k'o godina. Nisam siguran, gledao sam video samo par sekundi jer mi se fakat smucilo.Znam da je bio Daesh, znam da je Sirija ili Irak, znam da sam gledao taj video prije 4-5 dana i znam da je momak pljuniti ovaj na fotki.Sad nisam 100% siguran jel' to isti napad i isti lik.
mislim da nije isti


U pravu si, to je taj klip ali nije isti momak. Tuga kako god.
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#12449 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Vrlo, vrlo interesantan clanak:
Has Ankara abandoned Iraq’s Turkmens?

When I was touring the museum at the Imam Ali Shrine in Karbala in Iraq recently, a coffin was brought into the shrine's mausoleum. The coffin contained the body of a young Turkmen killed in a clash with the Islamic State (IS). Nowadays the coffins of many killed in battle are brought to mausoleums in Karbala and Najaf. Fighting is in the north; mourning is in the south. Shiite Turkmens of Mosul and Tal Afar have been uprooted with the arrival of IS.

They are fighting on the front lines of Iraq's Popular Mobilization Units. Local sources told me about 12,000 Turkmens have joined those forces. For example, of 5,000 fighters of the Ali Akbar brigade, 500 are Turkmens from Tal Afar. Of the five wounded men I visited in early December in a Karbala hospital, two were Turkmens. Turkmens are also heavily represented in the Iraqi special forces of Surau al-Ittihadiya. During the past 18 months, Turkmens of Kirkuk and Tuz Khormato have been taking up arms.

The organizing of Turkmens under the Popular Mobilization Units has upset the plans of the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) to take over disputed areas. Before 2014, Turkmens had not joined the fight because they believed Turkey would ensure their rights. But more than 120,000 Turkmens fleeing Mosul and Tal Afar took refuge in places such as Baghdad, Najaf and Karbala, which were thought to be safer for Shiites. One of their refuges is the Imam Ali Shrine, which is meeting the needs of 1,250 families living there. Nearly everyone I spoke to in the camp, almost to the last person, expressed disappointment and anger with Turkey.

There are two main reasons why Turkmens have turned to Shiite authorities in the south of Iraq: First, Turkmens think the government of the Justice and Development Party (AKP) in Turkey has given up its protector role for Turkmens for the sake of Ankara’s economic relations with the KRG in the north. Second, they believe Turkey was responsible for the fall of Mosul to IS.

Turkmens I spoke with all referred to their desperation when they were not allowed to take refuge in Kurdish Erbil after they fled from Mosul and Tal Afar in June 2014 when IS attacked. Akram Sharif, who opened a klix grocery in the Karbala camp, spoke about it: “After Tal Afar fell to IS, we sought refuge at Sinjar. IS killed 80 elderly and infirm who couldn’t escape. Then they captured Sinjar. I am laughing now when I hear people say, ‘The peshmerga [armed forces of Iraqi Kurdistan] saved Sinjar from IS.’ When we were leaving Sinjar, the IS and Kurds were a stone’s throw from each other. We left the area by passing between them."

Sharif believes Sinjar fell because the peshmerga cooperated with IS.

"When we left Sinjar we moved north and headed to Erbil via Dahuk. But the peshmerga stopped us at Kalak and did not allow us into Erbil," the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan. "I slept on the ground for three days with my children. We asked them to let us go to Baghdad, but they refused. Then the central government intervened. The peshmerga seized our identity cards and papers of our cars and told us they would be returned when we entered Baghdad. Then a convoy escorted by peshmerga delivered us to Baghdad. They did that to prevent us from entering Erbil and Kirkuk."

Taxi driver Hamza Sharif, another camp resident, said, “I waited for one month at Erbil’s entrance. [The Kurds] told us Turkmens couldn't pass. Our people died of thirst and hunger. Ibrahim al Ibrahim, who had a lung illness, died because of a sand storm. We asked for permission to take his body to Najaf, but the Kurds did not allow it. We buried our people on the roadside.”

Abdulhadi Jerrah, who said his family lost three houses and three shops, added, “We didn’t get any help from Turkey. When we went to Sinjar, the Kurds sold us out. We escaped to this place and sought refuge with the imam.” The camp is laden with such accounts.


In the camp, I found a group of people chatting in the street. Among its members was the former Mosul representative of the Iraqi Turkmen Front, Ahmed Beghdali.

Beghdali said, “Some tribes are ready to do anything to once again take over the government as they did during the Baath regime. All the Iraqis could get killed; they don’t care.” Like others, Beghdali is disappointed and angry with Turkey. “Turkey made the worst mistake of all. It didn't protect us. They have been protecting the Kurds but not the Turkmens. I spoke about this repeatedly with Turkish officials. Also, Turkey did not take control of the Syrian border. IS comes and goes. The hardest hit by this were the Turkmens. Everyone is seeking their revenge on us. Their goal is to expel the Turkmens from the region. We dominated Mosul's economy and agriculture. We left and Mosul collapsed. Sunni Turkmens also lost. Some took refuge in Turkey; some went to Baghdad, Zakho and Erbil. They are victims like us. But they do have some people cooperating with IS.”

According to Beghdali, Turkey was misled by former Ninevah Gov. Atheel Nujaifi, former parliamentary speaker Osama Nujaifi and former Vice President Tariq al-Hashemi.

“Turkey made many mistakes. If it had wanted to, it could have stopped IS and Mosul would not have fallen. For one thing, Turkey dealt with the wrong interlocutors. The Nujaifi family did not work for the benefit of Mosul and cooperated with IS. They also dealt with the wrong men; they misled Turkey. Hashemi cooperated with IS to take revenge on the Baghdad government. Turkey backed them," Beghdali said.

"I went to Mosul Consul General Ozturk Yilmaz and told him they were getting bad information. I told him those people [the Nujaifis and Hashemi] were trying to disrupt Turkey’s relations with the Baghdad government. He got angry with me.


"If [then-Prime Minister Nouri] al-Maliki had been a strong dictator, Mosul would not have fallen. Iraqi officials got all the wrong information about Mosul. The consulate was not evacuated when IS was approaching. Of course not; [the Turkish consular officials] were cohorts. Turkish officials said, 'They won’t harm us. Those coming are only enemies of Maliki. Don’t worry, they are our men.'”

Asked why Mosul fell so easily, Beghdali replied, “Mosul did not fall in one day. It fell four to five years ago. It was already under IS control. Nobody could be appointed to that city without the approval of IS, which was collecting taxes and executing people. Mosul police chief Khalid Hamdani was cooperating with IS. Police were handing over anti-IS people to the organization. Gov. Nujaifi did not work one day for the central government. He worked with IS until he found out how he was fooled.

"Of course, Prime Minister Maliki also made mistakes," Beghdali continued. "There were three army brigades at Mosul — that is 70,000, plus 30,000 police. They abandoned their barracks in one night. These were also games. IS had all of 600 [fighters]. The army had both Sunnis and Shiites. Were the army Shiites the right people? Of course not. Everything was based on money. Arab tribes — for example, the Jubur tribes — were supporting IS. They worked together until they started killing each other. The army of the Naqshbandi [a Sunni religious order] was a front. They are a Baath creation. If they had been true Naqshis, wouldn't they have reacted to mosques being bombed, to people being murdered? They are all partners in these crimes. There was peshmerga-IS cooperation in the fall of Sinjar.”

There are allegations circulating that some members of the Iraqi Turkmen Front were working with al-Qaeda at Tal Afar, as has happened in the past. For example, in the aftermath of Shiite killings in 2007 at Wahdeh neighborhood, which led to 78 Sunnis being killed in retaliation, relief assistance from Turkey was distributed only to areas obeying al-Qaeda.

Beghdali spoke about the current situation, “The Iraqi Turkmen Front remained passive. If [the Front] had worked properly, it could have prevented a Sunni-Shiite split. Because al-Qaeda was useful, it made inroads with Turkmens. The front’s officials were not the right people [to deal with]. They served other interests.”

The Turkmens' reactions shed light not only on the drama of IS operations but on the mistakes of Turkey’s Iraq policies and how the AKP government became part of the tension in Iraq.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origina ... z3weEkfon1
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#12450 Re: ISIS zauzeo Mosul

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Situacija na terenu:

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