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pa nemoj postit il nemoj trenirat jebo ga ti, cuj 100 grama proteina odjednom od toga 70 ispisas, nakon sto ti protutnja kroz bubrege. nemoj se zajebavat, osim ako nemas kakvih bubrega u rezervi.

Sve više od jedne mjerice odjednom je gubljenje para...

Raigor Stonehoof wrote:pa nemoj postit il nemoj trenirat jebo ga ti, cuj 100 grama proteina odjednom od toga 70 ispisas, nakon sto ti protutnja kroz bubrege. nemoj se zajebavat, osim ako nemas kakvih bubrega u rezervi.

Znaci po tvom je covjek koji ima 100 kg moze apsorbovati 30g proteina
i covjek koji ima 150 kg isto moze samo apsorbovati 30g proteina

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Sodom1 wrote:

Raigor Stonehoof wrote:pa nemoj postit il nemoj trenirat jebo ga ti, cuj 100 grama proteina odjednom od toga 70 ispisas, nakon sto ti protutnja kroz bubrege. nemoj se zajebavat, osim ako nemas kakvih bubrega u rezervi.

Znaci po tvom je covjek koji ima 100 kg moze apsorbovati 30g proteina
i covjek koji ima 150 kg isto moze samo apsorbovati 30g proteina

Tvoj zivot, tvoji bubrezi, jebiga. Nisi ocito raspolozen da slusas.

Sodom1 wrote:

epik wrote:Sta mislite o ovakvim preparatima
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Zavisi koliko godina imas. nEKO kaze djeluje neko ne djeluje , ja nisam jos probao,moracu kad tad , jer starim

Kasne 30-te mnogi su misljenja da testosteron pocinje opadati pocetkom 40-tih, e sad jbg u apoteci se moze kupiti testosteron na iglu al vala ne bih da se bodem ....
ima i ovaj
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Warashii wrote:

epik wrote:Sta mislite o ovakvim preparatima
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Ništa od ovog ti neće značanije podići testosteron, svi izvori po internetu kažu da je svaki ovaj produkt bacanje para, osim u slučaju da si tek završio ciklus i oporavljaš prirodni testosteron. Tako kažu

Boca je najbolja opcija

Velkoski wrote:Ništa od ovog ti neće značanije podići testosteron, svi izvori po internetu kažu da je svaki ovaj produkt bacanje para, osim u slučaju da si tek završio ciklus i oporavljaš prirodni testosteron. Tako kažu

Boca je najbolja opcija

A jbg boca, nemoj mi boce

Radi li iko kardio na stacionarnom bajku, HIIT ili ravnomjeran trening duzeg trajanja. Sta mislite da je efektivnije?

isx wrote:Radi li iko kardio na stacionarnom bajku, HIIT ili ravnomjeran trening duzeg trajanja. Sta mislite da je efektivnije?

Tracanje u prirodi sa utezima na nogama, Prsluk sa utezima, teren po mogucnosti uzbrdica, na kraju puta serija Burpija, povratak istom rutom kombinacija sprinta i setnje. Vrlo intezivan trening.

isx wrote:Radi li iko kardio na stacionarnom bajku, HIIT ili ravnomjeran trening duzeg trajanja. Sta mislite da je efektivnije?

HIIT je efektniji ali ako postis onda bih rekao ravnomjeran lagani trening. Mada Kardio svakako nije neka opcija ako postis.

Sodom1 wrote:

Raigor Stonehoof wrote:pa nemoj postit il nemoj trenirat jebo ga ti, cuj 100 grama proteina odjednom od toga 70 ispisas, nakon sto ti protutnja kroz bubrege. nemoj se zajebavat, osim ako nemas kakvih bubrega u rezervi.

Znaci po tvom je covjek koji ima 100 kg moze apsorbovati 30g proteina
i covjek koji ima 150 kg isto moze samo apsorbovati 30g proteina

mitovi i legende o apsorbciji proteina
skoro sve ce se asporbirati, ali nije ti nuzno da uneses 200g proteina (aka 2g/kg), ja rastem na 1.7g/kg bez problema

Uradis test urina i vidis koliko imas uree. Ta apsorpcija je cesto minimalna Bukvalno dobar dio tog wheya se ispisa pri sasvim normalnom unosu

ZyzzSar wrote:

Sodom1 wrote:

Raigor Stonehoof wrote:pa nemoj postit il nemoj trenirat jebo ga ti, cuj 100 grama proteina odjednom od toga 70 ispisas, nakon sto ti protutnja kroz bubrege. nemoj se zajebavat, osim ako nemas kakvih bubrega u rezervi.

Znaci po tvom je covjek koji ima 100 kg moze apsorbovati 30g proteina
i covjek koji ima 150 kg isto moze samo apsorbovati 30g proteina

mitovi i legende o apsorbciji proteina
skoro sve ce se asporbirati, ali nije ti nuzno da uneses 200g proteina (aka 2g/kg), ja rastem na 1.7g/kg bez problema

ali i jedes dobro sigurno

Kinaski wrote:Uradis test urina i vidis koliko imas uree. Ta apsorpcija je cesto minimalna Bukvalno dobar dio tog wheya se ispisa pri sasvim normalnom unosu

pises gluposti
cega apsorbcija minimalna, whey proteina?

ne kazem da je konzumacija ogromne kolicine proteina(60g+) u jednom obroku dobra, zdrava ili pozeljna, ali sigurno ce vecina biti apsorbirana bez problema, a zasto i ne bi bila?

MYTH:YOU CAN ONLY ASSIMILATE 30 GRAMS OF PROTEIN AT ONE SITTING
Fact: The body has the ability to digest and assimilate much more than 30 grams of protein from a single meal.

Speaking of high intakes of protein, people have been perpetuating the myth that you can only assimilate about 30 grams of protein at a time, making protein meals any greater than a 6-ounce chicken breast a waste.

This is anything but true. For example, the digestibility of meat is about 97 percent efficient. If you eat 25 grams of beef, you will absorb into the blood stream 97 percent of the protein in that piece of meat. If you eat a 10-ounce steak containing about 60 grams of protein, you will again digest and absorb 97 percent of the protein.

If you could only assimilate 30 grams of protein at a time, why would researchers be using in excess of 40 grams of protein to stimulate muscle growth?6

Critics of high protein intakes may try to point out that eating more protein only leads to burning more protein. This is true, nevertheless, some researchers speculate that this increase in protein oxidation following high protein intakes may initiate something they call the "anabolic drive".7

The anabolic drive is marked by hyperaminoacidemia, an increase in both protein synthesis and breakdown with an overall positive nitrogen balance.

In animals, anabolic hormones like IGF-1 and GH also go up.8 Though it's hard to track that in humans, lean tissue accretion does go up with super high protein intakes.9,10

The take-home message is that for more muscle growth you need less muscle loss, and more protein synthesis. You get this with heavy training, enough calories, and high protein consumption.

This means that meals with more than 30 grams of protein will be the norm. And all that protein will be put to use by the body.

Evo iftara , dvije merice Wheya Iso

ZyzzSar wrote:

Kinaski wrote:Uradis test urina i vidis koliko imas uree. Ta apsorpcija je cesto minimalna Bukvalno dobar dio tog wheya se ispisa pri sasvim normalnom unosu

pises gluposti
cega apsorbcija minimalna, whey proteina?

ne kazem da je konzumacija ogromne kolicine proteina(60g+) u jednom obroku dobra, zdrava ili pozeljna, ali sigurno ce vecina biti apsorbirana bez problema, a zasto i ne bi bila?

MYTH:YOU CAN ONLY ASSIMILATE 30 GRAMS OF PROTEIN AT ONE SITTING
Fact: The body has the ability to digest and assimilate much more than 30 grams of protein from a single meal.

Speaking of high intakes of protein, people have been perpetuating the myth that you can only assimilate about 30 grams of protein at a time, making protein meals any greater than a 6-ounce chicken breast a waste.

This is anything but true. For example, the digestibility of meat is about 97 percent efficient. If you eat 25 grams of beef, you will absorb into the blood stream 97 percent of the protein in that piece of meat. If you eat a 10-ounce steak containing about 60 grams of protein, you will again digest and absorb 97 percent of the protein.

If you could only assimilate 30 grams of protein at a time, why would researchers be using in excess of 40 grams of protein to stimulate muscle growth?6

Critics of high protein intakes may try to point out that eating more protein only leads to burning more protein. This is true, nevertheless, some researchers speculate that this increase in protein oxidation following high protein intakes may initiate something they call the "anabolic drive".7

The anabolic drive is marked by hyperaminoacidemia, an increase in both protein synthesis and breakdown with an overall positive nitrogen balance.

In animals, anabolic hormones like IGF-1 and GH also go up.8 Though it's hard to track that in humans, lean tissue accretion does go up with super high protein intakes.9,10

The take-home message is that for more muscle growth you need less muscle loss, and more protein synthesis. You get this with heavy training, enough calories, and high protein consumption.

This means that meals with more than 30 grams of protein will be the norm. And all that protein will be put to use by the body.

Niko ne prica o apsorpciji preko crijeva, sigurno da se velika vecina tog wheya apsorbuje preko crijeva u krvotok, ali problem je gdje taj whey ,sada razlozen na aminokiseline preko jetre, zavrsi. Koliko procenta tog wheya iz krvi zavrsi u celijama, a koliko ode na filtriranje u bubrege a zatim u obliku uree izbacen u mokracnu besiku, zatim u kanalizacione cijevi itd.
To se jednostavnim testom urina na ureeu moze procjeniti, ja sam uziamo whey samo poslije treninga jednu mjericu znaci i bcaa jednu mjericu tokom treninga. I kada sam radio nalaze ureaa je bila povisena dakle veliki dio tih suplemenata celije nisu apsorbovale.
i fino ti pise " And all that protein will be put to use by the body" to znaci da kruzi krvotokom i stoji na raspolaganju celijama da ga apsorbuju, al vic je u tome da ga celije ne aprobuju koliko ti mislis

However, 30 grams may be the proper amount of protein needed to get blood amino-acid levels high enough to flip the muscle-building switch.4 Like a light switch, once you flip the protein threshold and initiate protein synthesis, you can't turn it "more" on. Your body will digest protein above that level, but it will be used as fuel, not for additional muscle building.

To reboost protein synthesis, blood amino acids need to drop and then spike. This occurs naturally when you eat 4-5 meals per day, but not if you're drinking a protein shake at every turn.

Ne znam sto ce vam ti proteini, samo se trujete

Mustang1 wrote:Ne znam sto ce vam ti proteini, samo se trujete

Ma nije bas sad da se trujemo ako se normalno koristi, stvoris na neki nacin uslove za rast misicne mase, posebno ako je u jelovniku smanjen sadrzaj namjernica bogatih proteinima. Ali sad pretjerivati i unositi toliku kolicinu proteina je nista drugo nego trovanje, jos ako taj unos proteina ne prati adekvatan unos vode bubrezi ce bas da se namuce. Proteine organizam koristi ne samo za misicno tkivo, vec moze i proizvodnju glikoproteina, hormona, kose, noktiju cak se moze transormisati u glukozu i koristit kao gorivo za misice, to u slucaju da se potrosi sav glikogen (zapravo na tom principu funkcionise i misicni katabolizam)

Ma to je cisti otrov vjeruj, samo se napuses i nista od toga

Evo vam nova tema za raspravu, cujem danas neki piju kreatin i poste

Mustang1 wrote:Ma to je cisti otrov vjeruj, samo se napuses i nista od toga

I smrdiš

Leon16v wrote:

Mustang1 wrote:Ma to je cisti otrov vjeruj, samo se napuses i nista od toga

I smrdiš

I ćuna ti nestane, skroz.