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#12301 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 09:34
by Truba



:D

#12302 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 16:04
by jeza u ledja
daddy-kool wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/us/p ... xiety.html

Trump Voters Driven by Fear of Losing Status, Not Economic Anxiety, Study Finds
White, Christian and male voters, the study suggests, turned to Mr. Trump because they felt their status was at risk.

“It’s much more of a symbolic threat that people feel,’’ said Diana C. Mutz, the author of the study and a political science and communications professor at the University of Pennsylvania, where she directs the Institute for the Study of Citizens and Politics. “It’s not a threat to their own economic well-being; it’s a threat to their group’s dominance in our country over all.”
To je to. Kratko i jasno.
Eno onaj juce u Torontu levat, izgleda da je bio neki zesci mizogeni pacenik. Prvi put cujem da imaju i naziv kojim sami sebe zovu - "incel", tj. "involuntarily celibate". :lol:

#12303 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 16:32
by Truba

#12304 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 16:37
by madner
daddy-kool wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/us/p ... xiety.html

Trump Voters Driven by Fear of Losing Status, Not Economic Anxiety, Study Finds
White, Christian and male voters, the study suggests, turned to Mr. Trump because they felt their status was at risk.

“It’s much more of a symbolic threat that people feel,’’ said Diana C. Mutz, the author of the study and a political science and communications professor at the University of Pennsylvania, where she directs the Institute for the Study of Citizens and Politics. “It’s not a threat to their own economic well-being; it’s a threat to their group’s dominance in our country over all.”
Jah jah, Trump je odgovor na Obamu koji je zastupao jasne interese drugih grupa te i nastupao sa retorikom tih grupa.
Samo sto ljudima to nije bilo sporno, imao je isti problem kao i Trump. Nije ujedinjavao drustvo.

#12305 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 16:41
by Velkoski
Da ponovim, Trump je izabran iz inata, čisto da se zabiberi dosadnoj SJW propagandi :mrgreen:

#12306 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 16:51
by jeza u ledja
madner wrote:
daddy-kool wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/us/p ... xiety.html

Trump Voters Driven by Fear of Losing Status, Not Economic Anxiety, Study Finds
White, Christian and male voters, the study suggests, turned to Mr. Trump because they felt their status was at risk.

“It’s much more of a symbolic threat that people feel,’’ said Diana C. Mutz, the author of the study and a political science and communications professor at the University of Pennsylvania, where she directs the Institute for the Study of Citizens and Politics. “It’s not a threat to their own economic well-being; it’s a threat to their group’s dominance in our country over all.”
Jah jah, Trump je odgovor na Obamu koji je zastupao jasne interese drugih grupa te i nastupao sa retorikom tih grupa.
Samo sto ljudima to nije bilo sporno, imao je isti problem kao i Trump. Nije ujedinjavao drustvo.
Svaki predsjednik iz suprotne stranke je izmedju ostalog izabran kao odgovor prethodnom predsjendiku. A jedan od odgovora jeste upravo ovaj spomenut u clanku iznad, jer upravo je Obama najbolji simbol gubljenja tog statusa bijelog, krscanskog covjeka.

Druga je stvar koja se ne tice ni Trumpa ni Obame, a to je u sta se pretvorila institucija americkog predsjednika, da je postala nemoguca i preglomazna, da se od nje previse ocekuje, a da malo meda moze da daje. Ljudi previse ocekuju od jednog covjeka, jednih izbora i jedne odluke. Za prave promjene, ako se one sustinski zele, potrebno je ipak malo vise truda i razmisljanja. Ima bas odlican clanak o tome od prije par dana u Atlanticu, ogroman je, ali ako se kome da.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ce/556883/

#12307 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 16:52
by jeza u ledja
Velkoski wrote:Da ponovim, Trump je izabran iz inata, čisto da se zabiberi dosadnoj SJW propagandi :mrgreen:
Zauzvrat sad imamo "incel" propagandu. :lol:

#12308 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 16:55
by Velkoski
Pa ovi incel su mentalno bolesni slučajevi, samo im pogledaj subreddit... :mrgreen: Ne vidim kakve veze oni imaju s Trumpom :?

#12309 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 17:06
by fakat
Ako neko moze sarnuti sta bijese SJW?
A taman skontah sta je DNC, sad ovo.

#12310 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 17:07
by jeza u ledja
Velkoski wrote:Pa ovi incel su mentalno bolesni slučajevi, samo im pogledaj subreddit... :mrgreen: Ne vidim kakve veze oni imaju s Trumpom :?
Oni su samo ekstreman slucaj mentalnog sklopa tipicnog Trumpovog glasaca.

#12311 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 17:10
by Velkoski
Aha, svi oni sa onog subreddita su glasali za Trumpa? Ok :mrgreen:

Sreća pa su ekstremni ljevičari izuzetno mentalno stabilne osobe :mrgreen:

#12312 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 17:21
by Saian
raoul duke wrote:Kakav bromance izmedju Macrona i Trumpa, divno za gledati :thumbup: :lol: :lol:
https://twitter.com/bettybowers/status/ ... 2097021952

“When the aging gorilla is confronted with the much more virile, new alpha-male, he shows submissiveness by grooming the alpha-male, but the gesture is actually a vain attempt by the old gorilla to humiliate his much younger rival.”


#12313 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 17:24
by jeza u ledja
Velkoski wrote:Aha, svi oni sa onog subreddita su glasali za Trumpa? Ok :mrgreen:

Sreća pa su ekstremni ljevičari izuzetno mentalno stabilne osobe :mrgreen:
Jok eto glasali su za Hillary. :lol:

Ja ne govorim o mentalnoj stabilnosti ljudi, to su tvoji zakljucci.

Al pazi ti ideje - kao odgovor na neciju borbu za socijalnu pravdu, bez obzira kako besmislena bila - neko treba da za inat da gura u suprotnom pravcu, u pravcu manje pravde i jednakosti. Koliko besmislena teza. :-)

Upravo je tacno ovo sto je u clanku spomenuto. Praiskonska zelja za ocuvanjem privilegovanog statusa. Citav konzervativni mentalni sklop se zasniva na tome.

#12314 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 17:27
by jeza u ledja
Saian wrote:
raoul duke wrote:Kakav bromance izmedju Macrona i Trumpa, divno za gledati :thumbup: :lol: :lol:
https://twitter.com/bettybowers/status/ ... 2097021952

“When the aging gorilla is confronted with the much more virile, new alpha-male, he shows submissiveness by grooming the alpha-male, but the gesture is actually a vain attempt by the old gorilla to humiliate his much younger rival.”

Hahaha kako ga mota ovaj lik oko prsta. :lol: :lol:

#12315 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 18:21
by Velkoski
,

ne da mi se :lol:

#12316 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 20:53
by jeza u ledja
Ne ide ti. :D

#12317 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 20:54
by Velkoski
Ne ide tebi jer ne kontaš da ekstremna ljevica nije ništa bolja od ekstremne desnice. Skontat ćeš nekad :mrgreen:

#12318 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 21:49
by GandalfSivi
Upravo vidjeh reklamu za Masone na TV-u. Svasta...

#12319 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 25/04/2018 22:16
by jeza u ledja
Velkoski wrote:Ne ide tebi jer ne kontaš da ekstremna ljevica nije ništa bolja od ekstremne desnice. Skontat ćeš nekad :mrgreen:
Da bi se cuo glas obespravljenih on mora biti glasan.
Glas onih koji vec imaju sve se ne cuje samo kod onih koji to sto imaju ne znaju iskoristiti.
Ako si bijeli muskarac u Americi i mislis da si na bilo koji stvaran nacin ugrozen od zena, manjina, imigranata, lezbijki, itd...onda si zesci luzer, jbg. To sto je neki ohmygosh debil nikako ne mijenja cinjenicu da stvarni problemi postoje.

#12320 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/04/2018 02:54
by jeza u ledja


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hahhaa sto me ismija ovo. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

#12321 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/04/2018 09:26
by daddy-kool
jeza u ledja wrote:
Eno onaj juce u Torontu levat, izgleda da je bio neki zesci mizogeni pacenik. Prvi put cujem da imaju i naziv kojim sami sebe zovu - "incel", tj. "involuntarily celibate". :lol:
Za ovo nisam čuo do sada.

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-te ... other-name
Incel is misogyny weaponised. It turns self-pity into a lifestyle, an identifier that puts its adherents at direct odds with the societies they live in. We are the “normies” and therefore, in the minds of the most extreme Incel individuals, we deserve to die. We are to blame for their suffering and our apparent happiness – as demonstrated by having relationships – is rubbed in their faces constantly. You may not think you are a Chad or a Stacey but if you have sex, you’re the enemy.

One self-defined “former Incel” suggested underneath a Canadian Broadcasting Company tweet about the Toronto attack that such events would not occur if the government supplied men with girlfriends. When challenged about this “joke”, he asserted that far from it being a joke this was a serious suggestion as he knew how the attacker felt and that “society treats single men like trash and it needs to stop. The people in power, women, can change this but they refuse to. Blood is on their hands.”

That is not even at the extreme end of Incel thinking. It is a mainstream opinion within the subculture, a group of men who fervently believe that women are actively discriminating against them and that they are life’s victims.
Što bi braća Ameri rekli: Wow, just wow. :roll:

Podsjeti me na ovu scenu:



edit: The Atlantic je veoma kvalitetan medij. :thumbup:

#12322 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/04/2018 09:48
by madner
jeza u ledja wrote:
Velkoski wrote:Ne ide tebi jer ne kontaš da ekstremna ljevica nije ništa bolja od ekstremne desnice. Skontat ćeš nekad :mrgreen:
Da bi se cuo glas obespravljenih on mora biti glasan.
Glas onih koji vec imaju sve se ne cuje samo kod onih koji to sto imaju ne znaju iskoristiti.
Ako si bijeli muskarac u Americi i mislis da si na bilo koji stvaran nacin ugrozen od zena, manjina, imigranata, lezbijki, itd...onda si zesci luzer, jbg. To sto je neki ohmygosh debil nikako ne mijenja cinjenicu da stvarni problemi postoje.
Nije pitanje da li si ugrozen, nego da li se tvoji interesi zastupaju.
Zastupanje interesa nekih od tih skupina ide direktno na ustrb drugih.

Interesi migranta su recimo diametralno suprotni od interesa su americkih gradjana ispod srednje klase.
Prava LGBT idu direktno protiv drustva koji vjernici zele.
To sto ne smatras da su te skupine ugrozene ne znace da oni nemaju interese. :D

#12323 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/04/2018 11:52
by Velkoski
Vegani su obespravljeni i smeta im meso u prodavnicama > primjer današnjih obespravljenosti :sad:

#12324 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/04/2018 12:04
by dale cooper
daddy-kool wrote:
jeza u ledja wrote:
Eno onaj juce u Torontu levat, izgleda da je bio neki zesci mizogeni pacenik. Prvi put cujem da imaju i naziv kojim sami sebe zovu - "incel", tj. "involuntarily celibate". :lol:
Za ovo nisam čuo do sada.

https://www.newstatesman.com/science-te ... other-name
Incel is misogyny weaponised. It turns self-pity into a lifestyle, an identifier that puts its adherents at direct odds with the societies they live in. We are the “normies” and therefore, in the minds of the most extreme Incel individuals, we deserve to die. We are to blame for their suffering and our apparent happiness – as demonstrated by having relationships – is rubbed in their faces constantly. You may not think you are a Chad or a Stacey but if you have sex, you’re the enemy.

One self-defined “former Incel” suggested underneath a Canadian Broadcasting Company tweet about the Toronto attack that such events would not occur if the government supplied men with girlfriends. When challenged about this “joke”, he asserted that far from it being a joke this was a serious suggestion as he knew how the attacker felt and that “society treats single men like trash and it needs to stop. The people in power, women, can change this but they refuse to. Blood is on their hands.”

That is not even at the extreme end of Incel thinking. It is a mainstream opinion within the subculture, a group of men who fervently believe that women are actively discriminating against them and that they are life’s victims.
Što bi braća Ameri rekli: Wow, just wow. :roll:

Podsjeti me na ovu scenu:



edit: The Atlantic je veoma kvalitetan medij. :thumbup:
http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2018/ ... more-29754

Ovaj članak gore se također bavi tim "incel" pokretom i stvari koje ti likovi pišu po društvenim mrežama su uistinu užasavajuće.
Nivo mržnje prema ženama ali i normalnim muškarcima je strašan. :|

#12325 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

Posted: 26/04/2018 12:07
by Velkoski
Sve će to FBI pošamarati.