Obama i SAD (2008-2016)

[omar little]

Pa, mislim stvarno...Kako je vise nije sramota same sebe?!? Prvo podrzi odluku da se ne broje glasovi a sad se tu prodaje za nekakvog borca za gradjanska prava...ne bi li usicarila koji glas...

April 3, 2008, 1:06 pm
Clinton Floats Delegate Petition
By Sarah Wheaton

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton has been using hardcore civil rights argot in her push to seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan – states she won even though the campaigns pledged not to stump there. But now her camp is backing up the language with an old-school organizing technique: a petition.
According to Phil Singer, a spokesman for the Clinton campaign, said that over 100,000 people have signed onto the petition calling for the states’ delegates to be seated since it was sent out to supporters via e-mail late Wednesday.
The e-mail message casts the delegate dispute in near constitutional terms:
"It is a bedrock American principle: we are all equal in the voting booth. No matter where you were born or how much money you were born into, no matter the color of your skin or where you worship, your vote deserves to count.

But millions of people in Florida and Michigan who went to the polls aren’t being heard. The delegates they elected won’t be seated at the Democratic National Convention in Denver this August — and that’s just not fair to those voters."
But the petition itself is somewhat vague:
"Millions of people in Florida and Michigan went to the polls to make their voices heard in the Democratic Presidential primary. They deserve to have their votes count.
Add your name to show your support for seating the Florida and Michigan delegates at the Democratic National Convention in Denver this August."
A multitude of plans have been proposed for “seating” the delegates, but many of them – including splitting them between the candidates – would not help Mrs. Clinton close her gap with Senator Barack Obama. Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, met with Florida Democratic Party officials on Wednesday, announced that Florida delegates will be assigned to a hotel in Denver, the host city.
Somehow, we doubt Mrs. Clinton is trying to make free continental breakfast the next civil rights issue, but lacking specifics, her petition does not appear to call for any developments that are not already underway.

[jeza u ledja]

Ma taj PPP je slab pravo, u vise navrata sam procitao neke cudne brojeve od njih.

Ali i neki drugi poznatiji pollsteri daju interesantne rezultate, Rasmussen daje prednost Hillary od samo 5 boba, Quinnipac 9. Ako Obama uspije biti tu negdje na 5-10% razlike u PA iskreno se nadam da ce Hillary odustati od trke. Ako Obama kojim cudom pobjedi u PA, mada to su sanse minimalne, trka ce biti zavrsena.

Zivim za taj trenutak da vidim Clintonovu na pressici kako izjavljuje 'Today, I'm ending my candidacy...' To je momenat za onu MasterCard reklamu -

'grueling Democratic primary campaign - 100 million dollars'
'winning a nomination against Clinton Machine - priceless'.

[1gorstak]

mislim da ce McCain pobijediti.....

Jedan od rijetkih koji je insistirao na tom da se dozvoli naoruzavanje ARBiH. izbor skolarca Obame bi me zabrinuo, McCain zna sta je posrijedi.

[omar little]

mislim da ce McCain pobijediti.....

Jedan od rijetkih koji je insistirao na tom da se dozvoli naoruzavanje ARBiH. izbor skolarca Obame bi me zabrinuo, McCain zna sta je posrijedi.

Na sta mislis? Sta je posrijedi?

[1gorstak]

mislim da ce McCain pobijediti.....

Jedan od rijetkih koji je insistirao na tom da se dozvoli naoruzavanje ARBiH. izbor skolarca Obame bi me zabrinuo, McCain zna sta je posrijedi.

Na sta mislis? Sta je posrijedi?

McCain je upucen u nasu svakodnevnicu i insistiranjem na naoruzavanju ARBiH se jasno svrstao na stranu BiH, Obama je naivni idealista koji bi nas vjerovatno tretirao kao ravnopravne strane.

[hik--meta]

mccain je hard core militaristicki nastrojen tip, pa i ne cudi to za naoruzavanje kod nas. nebi me iznenadilo da ako postane predsjednik drmne na iran pod geslom 'rat je dobar za ekonomiju'.
mada mislim da ce pustiti izraelcima da izbombarduju opasnu industriju u iranu.

od mccaina je svasta ocekivati, anger management classes sumnjam da su mu pomogli, a nema sta izgubiti, ionako ce uskoro otegnuti papke kakvog je zdravstvenog stanja, sa kancerogenim historijom, a ne sumnjam i da je mentalno puk'o vec odavno.
kad sjedis u kafezu 5 godina i neki kosooki te malo-malo pika stapom, malo ko bi ostao normalan.

[omar little]

Nesto nisam cula nista u zadnje vrijeme, hocel' Edwards podrzavat' kandidata? Jel' cuo neko nesto?

[walkabout]

Evo i "zvanicno" mada nama Hikmeta vec odavno govori...

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FORTY years after Martin Luther King was murdered, black Americans are torn between the hope that Barack Obama will reach the White House and the fear that he, too, could fall to an assassin's bullet.

Electing the first black president of the United States would be a dramatic step in achieving Dr King's dream of racial equality. But the anniversary of the 1968 killing of the civil rights leader in Memphis is a painful reminder of just how fragile that dream remains.

"You know it [an assassination of Senator Obama] can happen," said the Reverend Billy Kyles, who spent the last hour of Dr King's life with him. "It has happened for blacks who have done less than get that close to the presidency."

Senator Obama, 46, was given full Secret Service protection last May. It was the earliest juncture for any presidential candidate since the practice was introduced after the assassination of Robert Kennedy, two months after Dr King was killed by the racist escaped convict James Earl Ray.

The prospect of Senator Obama meeting a similar fate is etched deep in the collective psyche of many American blacks, particularly those old enough to remember the events of 1968.

Senator Obama tells anyone who raises the subject to take comfort in the knowledge that neither Dr King nor Senator Kennedy had the Secret Service with them. Though his wife Michelle has spoken of safety concerns, Senator Obama plays them down, partly for fear that some might be dissuaded from voting for him because of a misguided notion of protecting him.

At the Memphis bus station, the grim prospect was raised several times without prompting. "People say if he makes it, someone will have him killed," said Cheryle Boyd, 47, a cleaner.

Gregory Jiles, 44, said: "For us to be able to vote for him is the opportunity of a lifetime, but if something happened to him it would prove that the US hadn't moved forward at all."

Telegraph, London

[omar little]

Evo i "zvanicno" mada nama Hikmeta vec odavno govori...

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FORTY years after Martin Luther King was murdered, black Americans are torn between the hope that Barack Obama will reach the White House and the fear that he, too, could fall to an assassin's bullet.

Electing the first black president of the United States would be a dramatic step in achieving Dr King's dream of racial equality. But the anniversary of the 1968 killing of the civil rights leader in Memphis is a painful reminder of just how fragile that dream remains.

"You know it [an assassination of Senator Obama] can happen," said the Reverend Billy Kyles, who spent the last hour of Dr King's life with him. "It has happened for blacks who have done less than get that close to the presidency."

Senator Obama, 46, was given full Secret Service protection last May. It was the earliest juncture for any presidential candidate since the practice was introduced after the assassination of Robert Kennedy, two months after Dr King was killed by the racist escaped convict James Earl Ray.

The prospect of Senator Obama meeting a similar fate is etched deep in the collective psyche of many American blacks, particularly those old enough to remember the events of 1968.

Senator Obama tells anyone who raises the subject to take comfort in the knowledge that neither Dr King nor Senator Kennedy had the Secret Service with them. Though his wife Michelle has spoken of safety concerns, Senator Obama plays them down, partly for fear that some might be dissuaded from voting for him because of a misguided notion of protecting him.

At the Memphis bus station, the grim prospect was raised several times without prompting. "People say if he makes it, someone will have him killed," said Cheryle Boyd, 47, a cleaner.

Gregory Jiles, 44, said: "For us to be able to vote for him is the opportunity of a lifetime, but if something happened to him it would prove that the US hadn't moved forward at all."

Telegraph, London

Mada riskiram da zvucim kao neko ko je 1968 govorio da nece doktora King-a niko dirat', nece Husi nista biti. Jedina briga je Klintonovska i, akobogda,
republikanska masina.To je to.

[omar little]

Zanimljivo.


Updated Friday, April 4, 2008, at 2:25 PM ET
CBS News and the New York Times have released a comprehensive new poll (http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/Mar08c-politics.pdf) chock-full of fresh insights on the state of the race nationwide. Seventy percent of voters say that Barack Obama is the candidate who most resembles American values—more so than Hillary Clinton or John McCain. Obama's emphasis on what pundits call his "American story" seems to have outweighed the smear tactics that have dogged him throughout the campaign. Also of note: 52 percent of Republicans think Obama shares American values. Only 27 percent of GOP voters think Clinton does. (Fifty percent of Democrats think McCain has American values.) An equal number of independents (68 percent) think Obama and McCain have American values.

More poll fun:

Fifty-three percent of voters think John McCain's policies would favor the rich. Thirteen percent say the same about Barack Obama.
Eleven percent of voters are very confident that John McCain will make correct decisions about the economy. Forty-two percent are not confident. He's the worst-rated of the three remaining candidates in this regard.
Sixty-nine percent of voters (Democrats and Republicans) expect Barack Obama to win the Democratic nomination.
Fifty-six percent of Democratic-primary voters think Obama is better able to beat McCain in November. Thirty-two percent think Clinton is.

[dr.gog]

mislim da ce McCain pobijediti.....

Jedan od rijetkih koji je insistirao na tom da se dozvoli naoruzavanje ARBiH. izbor skolarca Obame bi me zabrinuo, McCain zna sta je posrijedi.

...Od insistiranja Mekejna i njemu sličnih likova ,nismo dobili oružje već je on dobio poene u svojoj republikanskoj hunti koja je ,velikim djelom,servis za prodaju Čelika&Ognja made in USA.Pola tog oružja je opremilo postrojbe tisućljetne Vojske u Hrvata i stavilo debele provizije Šuškovim logističarima u džep,njegovom klovnu od šefa obučenom u a la Tito bijelu uniformu i raznim džamijskim drugovima iz Zagreba.Toliko o oružju koje smo skupo pplaćali,i uvijek dobijali napola,mimo Amerikanaca uglavnom.Ta demagogija o američkoj pravovremenoj pomoći je idiotizam.

Prije tri dana u Weltu je izašao obiman intervju sa Džordžom Bušom,gdje se dotakao svega pomalo,mrva Kosova možda,o Balkanu inače ni riječi,fraze,blabla..
U zadnjoj trećini intervjua pitanje o njegovom nasljedniku, bilo je krajnje samouvjereno odgovoreno: Džon Mekejn!.
Poznajući intelektualnu širinu i logiku čovjeka tipa Buša,ako takva osoba odgovori na bilo koje pitanje jasno i nedvosmisleno,onda je odgovor u stvari već završena stvar.Završena od strane njegove ogromne i prebogate mašinerije koja naprosto neće da ispusti još 50-ak milijardi dolara zarade od oružja,još toliko od nafte,i najviše od svog hipertrofiranog utjecaja-moći,najjače droge.
Obama i Hilari su ,bar meni i nekim ljudima koje slušam,naprosto presmiješni u usporedbi sa birokratom tipa Mekejna.Džon Mekejn je idući prezidentofd Junajtd stejts,a nama će biti kao i svima u njihovoj strategiji--sića će da trpi i sluša.To hoće li i koga će smlavit idućeg za raspravu je isprazno jer se interes može promijeniti preko noći,ko zna šta čiku Henriju može pasti na pamet ,na dobrobit Nacije

[palermo]

kao razlog zbog čega su moje simpatije na strani Hillary...............te vještice, mater joj

Hillary Clinton urged president to bomb Serbians.

On March 21, 1999, Hillary expressed her views by phone to the President: “I urged him to bomb.” The Clintons argued the issue over the next few days. [The President expressed] what-ifs: What if bombing promoted more executions? What if it took apart the NATO alliance? Hillary responded, “You cannot let this go on at the end of a century that has seen the major holocaust of our time. What do we have NATO for if not to defend our way of life?” The next day the President declared that force was necessary.

Source: Hillary’s Choice by Gail Sheehy, p.345 Dec 9, 1999

Vjerovatno neće pobijediti, al da je carica....jeste....................

[hik--meta]

kao razlog zbog čega su moje simpatije na strani Hillary...............te vještice, mater joj

Hillary Clinton urged president to bomb Serbians.

On March 21, 1999, Hillary expressed her views by phone to the President: “I urged him to bomb.” The Clintons argued the issue over the next few days. [The President expressed] what-ifs: What if bombing promoted more executions? What if it took apart the NATO alliance? Hillary responded, “You cannot let this go on at the end of a century that has seen the major holocaust of our time. What do we have NATO for if not to defend our way of life?” The next day the President declared that force was necessary.

Source: Hillary’s Choice by Gail Sheehy, p.345 Dec 9, 1999

Vjerovatno neće pobijediti, al da je carica....jeste....................

slazem se.

[jeza u ledja]

Obama i Hilari su ,bar meni i nekim ljudima koje slušam,naprosto presmiješni u usporedbi sa birokratom tipa Mekejna.Džon Mekejn je idući prezidentofd Junajtd stejts,a nama će biti kao i svima u njihovoj strategiji--sića će da trpi i sluša.To hoće li i koga će smlavit idućeg za raspravu je isprazno jer se interes može promijeniti preko noći,ko zna šta čiku Henriju može pasti na pamet ,na dobrobit Nacije

McCain je sve samo ne birokrata. Ako postoji ijedan senator za kog bi se moglo reci da nije birokrata onda je to on.
I apsolutno nije dio naftno-vojno-industrijskog lobija kojeg predstavlja Bush. Ako si pratio republikanske prajmariz 2000-e, u kojem su glavni suparnici bili Bush i McCain, gdje je McCaina Bushova masinerija prozvakala, pojela i ispljunula kao zadnjeg sugu znao bi o cemu govorim.

McCain sebe vidi u likovima a la Churchill, de Gaulle, Roosevelt.

U kontrastu njemu Obama sebe vidi u Kennediju ili modernim evropskim socijaldemokratama kao onaj Zapatero.

[jeza u ledja]

kao razlog zbog čega su moje simpatije na strani Hillary...............te vještice, mater joj

Hillary Clinton urged president to bomb Serbians.

On March 21, 1999, Hillary expressed her views by phone to the President: “I urged him to bomb.” The Clintons argued the issue over the next few days. [The President expressed] what-ifs: What if bombing promoted more executions? What if it took apart the NATO alliance? Hillary responded, “You cannot let this go on at the end of a century that has seen the major holocaust of our time. What do we have NATO for if not to defend our way of life?” The next day the President declared that force was necessary.

Source: Hillary’s Choice by Gail Sheehy, p.345 Dec 9, 1999

Vjerovatno neće pobijediti, al da je carica....jeste....................

Jos jednom procitajte tekst sa prethodne stranice:

Taking the advice of Al Gore and National Security Advisor Tony Lake, Bill agreed to a proposal to bomb Serbian military positions while helping the Muslims acquire weapons to defend themselves—the fulfillment of a pledge he had made during the 1992 campaign. But instead of pushing European leaders, he directed Secretary of State Warren Christopher merely to consult with them. When they balked at the plan, Bill quickly retreated, creating a "perception of drift." The key factor in Bill's policy reversal was Hillary, who was said to have "deep misgivings" and viewed the situation as "a Vietnam that would compromise health-care reform." The United States took no further action in Bosnia, and the "ethnic cleansing" by the Serbs was to continue for four more years, resulting in the deaths of more than 250,000 people.

I can personally witness to the truth of this, too. I can remember, first, one of the Clintons' closest personal advisers—Sidney Blumenthal—referring with acid contempt to Warren Christopher as "a blend of Pontius Pilate with Ichabod Crane." I can remember, second, a meeting with Clinton's then-Secretary of Defense Les Aspin at the British Embassy. When I challenged him on the sellout of the Bosnians, he drew me aside and told me that he had asked the White House for permission to land his own plane at Sarajevo airport, if only as a gesture of reassurance that the United States had not forgotten its commitments. The response from the happy couple was unambiguous: He was to do no such thing, lest it distract attention from the first lady's health care "initiative."

[pitt]

kao razlog zbog čega su moje simpatije na strani Hillary...............te vještice, mater joj

Hillary Clinton urged president to bomb Serbians.

On March 21, 1999, Hillary expressed her views by phone to the President: “I urged him to bomb.” The Clintons argued the issue over the next few days. [The President expressed] what-ifs: What if bombing promoted more executions? What if it took apart the NATO alliance? Hillary responded, “You cannot let this go on at the end of a century that has seen the major holocaust of our time. What do we have NATO for if not to defend our way of life?” The next day the President declared that force was necessary.

Source: Hillary’s Choice by Gail Sheehy, p.345 Dec 9, 1999

Vjerovatno neće pobijediti, al da je carica....jeste....................

slazem se.

aha.....tako je i za Irak naredila i pustite se te suplje biografije da joj se ugodi. kakva hilary

[palermo]

kao razlog zbog čega su moje simpatije na strani Hillary...............te vještice, mater joj

Hillary Clinton urged president to bomb Serbians.

On March 21, 1999, Hillary expressed her views by phone to the President: “I urged him to bomb.” The Clintons argued the issue over the next few days. [The President expressed] what-ifs: What if bombing promoted more executions? What if it took apart the NATO alliance? Hillary responded, “You cannot let this go on at the end of a century that has seen the major holocaust of our time. What do we have NATO for if not to defend our way of life?” The next day the President declared that force was necessary.

Source: Hillary’s Choice by Gail Sheehy, p.345 Dec 9, 1999

Vjerovatno neće pobijediti, al da je carica....jeste....................

Jos jednom procitajte tekst sa prethodne stranice:

Taking the advice of Al Gore and National Security Advisor Tony Lake, Bill agreed to a proposal to bomb Serbian military positions while helping the Muslims acquire weapons to defend themselves—the fulfillment of a pledge he had made during the 1992 campaign. But instead of pushing European leaders, he directed Secretary of State Warren Christopher merely to consult with them. When they balked at the plan, Bill quickly retreated, creating a "perception of drift." The key factor in Bill's policy reversal was Hillary, who was said to have "deep misgivings" and viewed the situation as "a Vietnam that would compromise health-care reform." The United States took no further action in Bosnia, and the "ethnic cleansing" by the Serbs was to continue for four more years, resulting in the deaths of more than 250,000 people.

I can personally witness to the truth of this, too. I can remember, first, one of the Clintons' closest personal advisers—Sidney Blumenthal—referring with acid contempt to Warren Christopher as "a blend of Pontius Pilate with Ichabod Crane." I can remember, second, a meeting with Clinton's then-Secretary of Defense Les Aspin at the British Embassy. When I challenged him on the sellout of the Bosnians, he drew me aside and told me that he had asked the White House for permission to land his own plane at Sarajevo airport, if only as a gesture of reassurance that the United States had not forgotten its commitments. The response from the happy couple was unambiguous: He was to do no such thing, lest it distract attention from the first lady's health care "initiative."

A, Jeza druže, ostaje na kraju kome vjerovati, ja eto imam simpatije prema porodici Clinton i nešto im više vjerujem nego Baracku ( govorim u kontekstu odnosa prema Bosni), i ne tvrdim stoposto da će budćnost potvrditi moje mišljenje, al stvarno se bojim pomalo te priče o pravdi, boljem društvu itd, jer to su vrlo relativni pojmovi, kažem ti otiđi na srbijanske sajtove i vidjećeš i tamo priču o pravdi koju će Obama donijeti za napaćeni srpski narod. I poštujem ja da vi tu u americi gledate sve iz vaše vizure, al mene izbori zanimaju samo u kontekstu odnosa Amerike prema Bosni i Hercegovini i da ponovim jednostavno više vjerujem Clintonovima.

[walkabout]

Koliko izgovoreno slovo kosta... ...~$100 po slovu ...pa brat bratu, i vrijedi ...

Bill je bio i u Sydney-u, pozivnica $2000 po glavi...

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THE presidential campaign trail is proving tough going but there are consolations in being Hillary Clinton: she and husband Bill are filthy rich.

The former United States president and first lady have made $US109 million ($118 million) since 2000, tax details reveal. Mr Clinton made $51million in speech income alone.

The couple paid taxes of more than $33million and gave more than $10 million to charity between 2000 - their last year in the White House - and last year, tax records released by Mrs Clinton's presidential campaign showed.

The New York senator had been challenged by White House rival Barack Obama to release her tax returns as the two Democrats duel for the right to face Republican John McCain in November's election.

Source: The Sun-Herald

[hik--meta]

to stoji da su se obogatili. pa samo nasi su billu dali 250,000 dolara da odrzi govor u potocarima, a lafo poslije govorili da je on to dzaba uradio za BiH.
za svaki graduation ceremony po koledzima sirom amerike sto otprica po manje od pola sata uzme i vise od toga.
a sjecam se kako su i on i hillary kukali kad su uzimali kredit za kucu u westchesteru od 7 miliona kad je bill tek sisao sa vlasti, a prije nego sto je hillary usla u utrku za senatora, sumnjajuci da ce kucu tako lako otplatiti.

[walkabout]

Iz BHDana...

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Bush

Pise: Mile Stojić

Opća imenica "bush" u engleskom rječniku ima više značenja: lisičji rep, divlji predio, grana, no najviše se rabi kao oznaka grma, žbuna, šikare. Osobno ime George, pak, potječe od grčke složenice (geo) zemlja i (ergos) raditi, u značenju onaj koji obrađuje zemlju, zemljoradnik. Jedno je od sporednih imena gromovnika Zeusa, boga bogova. U srpskom jeziku rabi se u osnovnom obliku Đorđe i brojnim hipokoristicima (Đoka, Đokica, Đoko, Đole, Đorđe, Đorđije, Đorđo, Đuza, Đuja, Đura, Đurađ, Đurašin, Đurđe, Đurđija, Đurica i Đuro), a u hrvatskome Jure (Juraj, Jurica, Jura, Juro). U makedonskom i bugarskom Georgi, u talijanskom Giorgio (Đorđo), u njemačkom Georg, engleskom George itd. Prezime Đorđević jedno je od najčešćih srpskih prezimena. Sveti Juraj (Georgije) jedan je od najviše slavljenih svetaca u Katoličkoj i Pravoslavnoj crkvi. Prema legendi, on je kopljem probo sotonu u liku zmaja, aždaje i tako postao simbolom ratobornog kršćanstva i ikonom križarskih vojni. Jurjevo ili Đurđevdan slavi se na proljeće, pa je po njemu dobila naziv i biljka đurđica ili đurđevak, neobično lijepa i mirisnoga cvijeta. Nomen est omen, govorili su stari Rimljani, pa se tako i u imenu aktualnog američkog predsjednika krije vražje značenje: kao što je sveti Juraj svojim oštrim kopljem usmrtio vraga paklenoga, tako je i drugi američki predsjednik imenom George (prvi je bio Washington) naumio usmrtiti aždaju međunarodnog terorizma, što je opasno ranila Ameriku u ranu jesen 2001. godine. Jašući na krilima te želje, George Bush sam se pretvorio u aždaju, koja brutalnom silom u oganj pretvara naftonosne islamske zemlje od Afgana, do Iraka, a zloguki proroci najavljuju da će uskoro na red doći i drevna Perzija. Ovaj nesrećko, što već gotovo jedno desetljeće rukovodi najmoćnijom zemljom svijeta, na koncu svog drugog mandata posjetio je susjednu Hrvatsku, gdje mu je priređen euforičan i pretežno otužan doček. Mogao se steći dojam da se u udvoričkoj besjedi hrvatskog premijera Sanadera više očitovala potreba da se napakosti Srbima (nas i Amera dvjesta milijuna!) negoli da se dokaže nekakvo kulturno i političko hrvatsko jedinstvo s Amerikom, koja, upravo zahvaljujući Bushovoj politici, nigdje u svijetu nije više omiljena. U Bosni je voljen i cijenjen predsjednik Clinton jer je ušutkao topove srpske vojske što su četiri godine orali ovu nesretnu zemlju. Razliku između Busha i Clintona najpregnantnije je opisao naš pisac svjetskog glasa koji živi u Americi Aleksandar Hemon: "Clinton je bio laufer, vrstan političar, spreman na kompromise od kojih su neki bili jadni i glupi, ali je njemu kompromis uvijek bio jedna od realnih opcija. George W. Bush i njegova banda imaju plan, što bi Amerikanci rekli, koji se zove vizija. Oni znaju šta hoće i kako će doći do svog zadatog cilja te svaki kompromis koji taj njihov proces usporava smatraju budalaštinom i gubljenjem vremena. Oni, naime, ne pregovaraju, a one koji se s njima ne slažu smatraju neprijateljima. (...) Bush je čak i jedanaesti septembar zloupotrijebio da sebi obezbijedi mandat, da se predstavi kao spasitelj i vođa, no njegov je krajnji cilj da provede svoje ultradesne planove o kršćanskoj Americi i da ostvari dominaciju u svijetu."

[hik--meta]

mccain ce bojim se samo nastaviti sa ovim boldiranim. jucer rece da ne iskljucuje nove preemptive napade ako bude potrebe. jadan li je ovaj svijet ako se oni zadrze na vlasti.

[omar little]

Jadna li nam majka ako se Kissinger bude puno pitao...Kada ce se vise republikanci kanit' tog Kissinger-a? On je bog i batina vanjskih poslova vec preko 30 godina (direktno i indirektno). A navucen na rat, k'o najgori dzanki.


2 Camps Trying to Influence McCain on Foreign Policy

WASHINGTON — Senator John McCain has long made his decades of experience in foreign policy and national security the centerpiece of his political identity, and suggests he would bring to the White House a fully formed view of the world.

But now one component of the fractious Republican Party foreign policy establishment — the so-called pragmatists, some of whom have come to view the Iraq war or its execution as a mistake — is expressing concern that Mr. McCain might be coming under increased influence from a competing camp, the neoconservatives, whose thinking dominated President Bush’s first term and played a pivotal role in building the case for war.

The concerns have emerged in the weeks since Mr. McCain became his party’s presumptive nominee and began more formally assembling a list of foreign policy advisers. Among those on the list are several prominent neoconservatives, including Robert Kagan, an author who helped write much of the foreign policy speech that Mr. McCain delivered in Los Angeles on March 26, in which he described himself as “a realistic idealist.” Others include the security analyst Max Boot and a former United Nations ambassador, John R. Bolton.

Prominent members of the pragmatist group, often called realists, say they are also wary of the McCain campaign’s chief foreign policy aide, Randy Scheunemann, who was a foreign policy adviser to former Senators Trent Lott and Bob Dole and who has longtime ties to neoconservatives. In 2002, Mr. Scheunemann was a founder of the hawkish Committee for the Liberation of Iraq and was an enthusiastic supporter of the Iraqi exile and Pentagon favorite, Ahmad Chalabi.

“It maybe too strong a term to say a fight is going on over John McCain’s soul,” said Lawrence Eagleburger, a secretary of state under the first President George Bush, who is a member of the pragmatist camp. “But if it’s not a fight, I am convinced there is at least going to be an attempt. I can’t prove it, but I’m worried that it’s taking place.”

In addition, Mr. Eagleburger said, “there is no question that a lot of my far right friends have now decided that since you can’t beat him, let’s persuade him to slide over as best we can on these critical issues.”

Mr. McCain, who is aware of the concerns, told reporters on his campaign plane early this week that he took foreign policy advice from a wide variety of people. “Some of them are viewed as ‘more conservative,’ quote,” he said, adding, “but I do have a broad array of people that I talk to, and hear from, and read what they write.”

Mr. McCain has always promoted his reputation for departing from ideological orthodoxy in both foreign and domestic policy. As an unwavering supporter of the Iraq war, he is closely associated with the issue that is most clearly identified with the neoconservatives, even though he often criticized Mr. Bush’s execution of the war.

He has been sympathetic to neoconservative views on some other issues, like taking a hard line with Russia and a proposal to establish a new international body made up solely of democracies as a counterweight to the United Nations. In other aspects of foreign and national security policy, he tilts toward the pragmatist camp, as in his promise to work more closely with allies.

“I don’t think that Senator McCain splits the difference so much as he bridges the difference” between the two factions, Mr. Scheunemann said. “You’ve got well-known realist figures as well as neo-cons,” but “they are signing up to John McCain’s campaign; he’s not necessarily signing up to their views on how best to lead.”

Still, as prominent pragmatists and neoconservatives have started to part company over the war, they appear to be jockeying for influence in Mr. McCain’s campaign and, should he be elected, in his administration.

One of the chief concerns of the pragmatists is that Mr. McCain is susceptible to influence from the neoconservatives because he is not as fully formed on foreign policy as his campaign advisers say he is, and that while he speaks authoritatively, he operates too much off the cuff and has not done the deeper homework required of a presidential candidate.

In a trip to the Middle East last month, Mr. McCain made an embarrassing mistake when he said several times that he was concerned that Iran was training Al Qaeda in Iraq. (The United States believes that Iran, a Shiite country, has been training Shiite extremists in Iraq, but not Al Qaeda, a Sunni insurgent group.) He repeated the mistake on Tuesday at hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

The worry about Mr. McCain is centered among a group of foreign policy realists who have long been close to him and who lost out to the hawks in the intense ideological battles of the first term of the current White House. The group includes former Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, former Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage and Brent Scowcroft, the national security adviser to the first President Bush.

While Mr. Powell and Mr. Armitage supported Mr. Bush’s decision to invade Iraq while they were in office, they have become critics of the management of the war. Mr. Scowcroft incurred the anger of the current President Bush when he wrote a 2002 opinion article in The Wall Street Journal that argued against the invasion of Iraq.

Conservatives around Mr. McCain counter that the other side’s concerns are groundless because Mr. McCain is hardly an empty vessel who might succumb to the views of one group or another.

“I would say his world view is so established that there is not a real battle going on,” said Mr. Kagan, a scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “A struggle over individual policies I could imagine, but the broad view, no. People would agree on what McCain thinks. This is not one of those situations like Bush all over again, with some titanic struggle going on between different factions.”

Mr. McCain’s advisers say he talks to realists like former Secretary of State Henry A. Kissinger and former Secretary of State George P. Shultz. Mr. Kissinger said in an interview that he had talked with Mr. McCain “15 to 20 times in the last year,” including on a bus ride to a fund-raiser on Long Island.

“In his speeches and daily pronouncements, I generally have no input,” Mr. Kissinger said. “When we meet for lunch or dinner, or on the one or two occasions he has come to my home, we have had philosophical discussions. When he calls me now, it will be mostly ‘this event has happened and what do you think?’ ”

Mark Salter, one of Mr. McCain’s closest advisers, called the concerns of the pragmatists “utter nonsense” and added that “if John McCain on a given issue would talk to Bob Kagan about 30 percent as often as he talks to Henry Kissinger, for some people that is 30 percent too much.”

Although the concerns at this point are focused more on access to Mr. McCain than on major policy differences, there have been some substantive areas of dispute. Mr. Kissinger was said to have been disturbed by Mr. McCain’s hardline attitude on Russia and the Russian president Vladimir Putin in the March 26 speech, viewing it as “going far beyond anything that is necessary” and “something that he has got to be talked out of,” according to someone who has spoken recently with Mr. Kissinger.

“I have no comment on that paragraph,” Mr. Kissinger said when asked directly. “You have to take my judgment from what I have written. But I am a strong supporter of the senator.”

Similarly, Mr. Scowcroft is said to have expressed reservations about Mr. McCain’s call for creating a League of Democracies as a complement to the United Nations. An associate of Mr. Scowcroft said he viewed it as an effort to diminish the United Nations — a target of scorn among neoconservatives — and inhibit engagement with enemies.

But Mr. McCain’s positions on many other issues appeal to the pragmatists. In the Los Angeles speech, he rejected the unilateralism that has been the hallmark of the Bush administration’s foreign policy in favor of what he called “being a good and reliable ally to our fellow democracies.”

Before the Iraq war, Mr. McCain generally opposed aggressive assertions of American power abroad. As a freshman congressman he criticized Ronald Reagan’s deployment of marines in Lebanon in 1983; later, in the 1990s, he sought to cut off financing for American troops in Somalia, at first wanted to limit the American response to Saddam Hussein’s invasion of Kuwait to the air, and opposed military intervention in Haiti.

So far, Mr. McCain has not established a formal foreign policy briefing process within his campaign. If he needs information or perspective on an issue, advisers say he picks up the phone and calls any number of people, among them Mr. Kissinger, Mr. Shultz or Senators Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, and Joseph I. Lieberman, independent of Connecticut.

Mr. Scheunemann, who works out of McCain campaign headquarters in Arlington, Va., serves as the coordinator who sends advance copies of Mr. McCain’s speeches to the foreign policy advisers and receives information from them to send to the candidate and throughout the campaign.

Philip D. Zelikow, a former top adviser to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice who is not working for Mr. McCain, said it was not surprising that there were worries among the realists about the presumptive Republican nominee.

“It’s partly because McCain hasn’t settled himself in one camp, and hasn’t told Rich, you’re my man, Rich, you’re the lodestar,” said Mr. Zelikow, referring to Mr. Armitage. “But if you’re in McCain’s position, is it in his interest to settle the argument now? It’s in his interest to embrace the largest number of Republicans and not declare that he is in favor of one faction or another.”

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Ovo ispod procitah maloprije...i kroz glavu mi proleti scena troboja iz filma "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"... ...

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Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Saturday defended labelling struggling working-class voters "bitter," insisting they have every reason to be frustrated.

"I said something that everybody knows is true, which is that there are a whole bunch of folks in small towns in Pennsylvania, in towns right here in Indiana ... who are bitter," he said at a rally Saturday.

"They are angry. They feel like they've been left behind," he said of those hit by tough economic times. "That's a natural, natural response."

Obama was slammed by his rival for the Democratic White House nomination, Senator Hillary Clinton, for comments he made at a fundraiser in California last week that white, working class voters, a key voting bloc in this year's presidential race, had turned away from Washington after years of economic decline and cast their votes on social issues instead of economic ones.

"So it's not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations," Obama said, according to a transcript published by huffingtonpost.com.

Clinton jumped on his statement as condescending.

"I was taken aback by the demeaning remarks Senator Obama made about people in small-town America," she said at a rally in Indiana Saturday.

"Senator Obama's remarks are elitist and are out of touch. They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans. Certainly not the Americans that I know."

De facto Republican nominee John McCain's campaign also hit out at Obama's remarks.

"It shows an elitism and condescension toward hard-working Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking," McCain advisor Steve Schmidt told The New York Times.

"It is hard to imagine someone running for president who is more out of touch with average Americans."

But Friday, Obama said he knew very well the struggles of middle-class voters.

"No, I'm in touch. I know exactly what's going on ... People are fed-up," he said.

"They're angry and they're frustrated and they're bitter. And they want to see a change in Washington and that's why I'm running for president of the United States of America."

Both Democratic White House hopefuls have courted working class voters by finessing their positions on free trade, opposing a pending agreement with Colombia and promising to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) if they become president.

Unions claim NAFTA has caused the loss of millions of US jobs, hitting workers who are also now struggling with an economic slowdown.

Pennsylvania holds the next Democratic primary vote on April 22. Clinton has a long lead in the polls there, largely due to support from working class voters and union members.

But the most recent average of polls by Realclearpolitics.com shows her lead dwindling to 7.3 percent.

And Clinton trails Obama in the delegate count from the state-by-state votes ahead of an August party convention, where the nominee will be chosen. The winner is likely to face McCain in November.

Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod told reporters in a teleconference "I think that (Obama) made it very clear that he regrets (in) the remarks their wording.

"But their essence is something he feels very strongly about; there is real anger in many of our communities at ... politicians who express their solicitude at election time and then don't follow through with advocacy as politicians," Axelrod said.

"The essence of it is right. And if Senator Clinton and Senator McCain think people are upbeat about the economy they need to spend a lot more time out here," he said.

Mayor Rick Gray of Lancaster, west of Philadelphia, added, "I would use the words 'People are angry.' I think people are upset about the economic conditions in this country. They see executives getting large bonuses, and themselves losing. There's a level of anger that is just seething."

But "If we confront ... economic issues, health care, jobs," Gray added, "Senator Obama provides something that is not business as usual."

© 2008 AFP

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kako se svi igraju sa radnom klasom ko sa marvom....obecavaju im kule i gradove...ukidanje free trade i nafte bla bla bla.......a na kraju nista ni blizu nece uraditi po tom pitanju. Heble ih unije i ko dozvoli da se petljaju u politiku......treba da se okrenu svojim brigama i pravu i zastiti svojih clanova a jok da se petljaju u politiku....i oni i korporacije. Treba neko DC pomesti i to dobro.

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Pitt, i to je Amerika...