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#1226 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 15/10/2024 21:43
by ultima_palabra
Jack Be Nimble wrote: 15/10/2024 20:23 Neka nam je sa srecom slijedece 4 godine sa Trampom. Nema Kamala sanse. Nije kao 2020, bilo ko samo ne Trump. Jebe je sto je zena, crnkinja i sve lose sto se desilo za vrijeme Bajdena se njoj oko vrata vese. Prosjecan glasac sve to sagleda u roku 30 sekundi na tik toku. To ona ne moze da preokrene u svoju korist.
Ma frajeru nije dobro, vidjelo se sinoc. Ako ga izaberu, mogli bi ga u ludaru odvesti, i onda predsjednik Vance 4 godine.

#1227 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 15/10/2024 21:52
by vaučer
Jack Be Nimble wrote: 15/10/2024 20:23 Neka nam je sa srecom slijedece 4 godine sa Trampom. Nema Kamala sanse. Nije kao 2020, bilo ko samo ne Trump. Jebe je sto je zena, crnkinja i sve lose sto se desilo za vrijeme Bajdena se njoj oko vrata vese. Prosjecan glasac sve to sagleda u roku 30 sekundi na tik toku. To ona ne moze da preokrene u svoju korist.

Jok nema šanse.
Gdje bi imala.

#1228 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 15/10/2024 23:43
by Osmi Socrates
Bizarno, najblaže rečeno. Ne znam je li puk'o, ili zna što niko drugi ne zna, ali Ave Maria ne dolazi nekom ko je čitav život bio sve samo ne predani vjernik samo tako pod stare dane, iz čista mira i iz vedra neba. Ni pjesma ni molitva.

"Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death."

Tipično katolička molitva, mada je koriste i neke protestantske denominacije. Himna (kršćanske) poniznosti. Suočavanje sa svojim grijehovima i ograničenostima.

Kako i zašto je našla put do Trumpa baš u ovom trenutku je, u najmanju ruku, čudno.

#1229 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 15/10/2024 23:44
by Velkoski
pa ave mariju upalim i ja, to ti je komercijalna klasika, jednostavno odlična i koristi se često

šta njega briga šta je značenje :mrgreen:

#1230 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 15/10/2024 23:52
by Osmi Socrates
Sa tom tvrdnjom bih se složio da se ne radi o čovjeku koji nema nikakve veze sa religijom i o religiji čitav život i koji odjednom u 78-oj godini života odluči da mu se dva puta pušta Ave Maria.

Ovo je bizarno, ako nema kontekst koji samo on zna.

#1231 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 00:04
by ultima_palabra
Jest, a poslije toga pusta YMCA i November Rain :mrgreen:

#1232 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 00:08
by dale cooper
Koliko sam vidio na playlisti mu je i Rufus Wainwrightova verzija Cohenovog klasika Hallelujah (Wainwright mu je odmah poslao zabranu :mrgreen: ) koja lirički gledajući nije pjesma za slušanja po političkim skupovima. Ali najvjerovatnije je da Trumpu nije ni bitno značenje iza pjesme niti je
ulazio u srž onoga što sluša i pušta.

Meni je nasmješniji mismatch politike i muzike bilo ono korištenje Springsteenove Born In The U.S.A. od strane Reaganove kampanje. :mrgreen:

#1233 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 00:33
by Jack Be Nimble
Pa nekome pozlilo, taman da se malo muzika pusti za raju.

#1234 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 03:37
by GandalfSivi
Kako idu te ankete, dokle smo?


#1235 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 03:39
by GandalfSivi
Jack Be Nimble wrote: 16/10/2024 00:33 Pa nekome pozlilo, taman da se malo muzika pusti za raju.
Ovo je bilo 39 minuta poslije sto je pomoc ukazana drugoj osobi kojoj je pozlilo…

#1236 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 05:52
by jeza u ledja
Neki dan slusam jednog D operativca koji kaze da su se got burned prosli puta pracenjem statistika ranog glasanja. Govorio je za Floridu konkretno, ali moze se prenjeti na cijelu zemlju. I ja se sjecam da smo ovdje pratili Floridu cijeli oktobar i gledali kako R lagano sustizu i prestizu.
Mozda nekad tamo za dvije sedmice te brojke budu pokazivale nesto konkretno. Za sad to je besmisleno.

#1237 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 07:05
by jeza u ledja
:shock:









E svasta.

Cuj sign of senility? Ovo je cry for help jbt. :-)
Ima li ovaj lik jednog prijatelja u zivotu? :-)

Sad.

#1238 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 07:19
by jasko_ba
strasno :roll:
south park i black mirror epizode postaju stvarnost :lol:

#1239 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 07:48
by Vjecita_zavrzlama
Ko vodi u polls?

#1240 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 08:23
by emmir1
Trenutno je trend i u Evropi da desnicarske stranke imaju veliki rast.

Sto se blize izbori Tramp je sve radikalniji

Sada izgleda mu je fokus na krscanima, pa se njima obraca.

Lik je evidentno sposoban, kroz zivot i biznis je naučio.
Takodjer je jasno da bez imalo zadrske prosipa laži na sve strane.

Bez trun stida svakodnevno iznosi brutalne laži.


Favorit je nazalost, jer kako u svijetu tako i USA, većina naroda je poludila

#1241 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 08:43
by vaučer
Apsolutno nije favorit. U najboljem slučaju za njega je 50-50, ali favorit sigurno nije. Trump je iscrpio količinu glasača koje može privući, uvijek su to isti brojevi. Jedina nova grupacija na kojoj radi pred ove izbore su nezadovoljni Gen Z mladi muškarci, gdje ima određenu prednost. Ali to je najnepouzdanija skupina na koju se ne možeš osloniti da sigurno glasaju. Dakle na maksimalnom je limitu onih koje može privući, dok s druge strane gubi lopatom umjerenije Republikance i glasove žena - koje za razliku od muškaraca puno, puno pouzdanije izlaze na izbore.

#1242 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 12:42
by Chmoljo
neki dan se spominjalo da je MAGA luđakinja šefica biračkog odbora Gruzije, ili kako se već zove ta institucija pa mislim da je od značaja postaviti
Georgia judge blocks ballot counting rule and says county officials must certify election results
ATLANTA (AP) — A judge has blocked a new rule that requires Georgia Election Day ballots to be counted by hand after the close of voting. The ruling came a day after the same judge ruled that county election officials must certify election results by the deadline set in law.

The rulings are victories for Democrats, liberal voting rights groups and some legal experts who have raised concerns that Donald Trump’s allies could refuse to certify the results if the former president loses to Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris in next month’s presidential election. They have also argued that new rules enacted by the Trump-endorsed majority on the State Election Board could be used to stop or delay certification and to undermine public confidence in the results.

The State Election Board last month passed the rule requiring that three poll workers each count the paper ballots — not votes — by hand after the polls close. The county election board in Cobb County, in Atlanta’s suburbs, had filed a lawsuit seeking to have a judge declare that rule and five others recently passed by the state board invalid, saying they exceed the state board’s authority, weren’t adopted in compliance with the law and are unreasonable.

In a ruling late Tuesday, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney wrote, that the hand count rule “is too much, too late” and blocked its enforcement while he considers the merits of the case.

McBurney on Monday had ruled in a separate case that “no election superintendent (or member of a board of elections and registration) may refuse to certify or abstain from certifying election results under any circumstance.” While they are entitled to inspect the conduct of an election and to review related documents, he wrote, “any delay in receiving such information is not a basis for refusing to certify the election results or abstaining from doing so.”

Georgia law says county election superintendents — generally multimember boards — “shall” certify election results by 5 p.m. on the Monday after an election, or the Tuesday if Monday is a holiday as it is this year.

The two rulings came as early in-person voting began Tuesday in Georgia.

In blocking the hand count rule, McBurney noted that there are no guidelines or training tools for its implementation and that the secretary of state had said the rule was passed too late for his office to provide meaningful training or support. The judge also wrote that no allowances have been made in county election budgets to provide for additional personnel or expenses associated with the rule.

“The administrative chaos that will — not may — ensue is entirely inconsistent with the obligations of our boards of elections (and the SEB) to ensure that our elections are fair legal, and orderly,” he wrote.

The state board may be right that the rule is smart policy, McBurney wrote, but the timing of its passage makes implementing it now “quite wrong.” He invoked the memory of the riot at the U.S. Capitol by people seeking to stop the certification of Democrat Joe Biden's presidential victory on Jan. 6, 2021, writing, “Anything that adds uncertainty and disorder to the electoral process disserves the public.”

During a hearing earlier Tuesday, Robert Thomas, a lawyer for the State Election Board, argued that the process isn’t complicated and that estimates show that it would take extra minutes, not hours, to complete. He also said memory cards from the scanners, which are used to tally the votes, could be sent to the tabulation center while the hand count is happening so reporting of results wouldn’t be delayed.

State and national Democratic groups that had joined the suit on the side of the Cobb election board, along with the Harris campaign, celebrated McBurney's ruling in a joint statement: “From the beginning, this rule was an effort to delay election results to sow doubt in the outcome, and our democracy is stronger thanks to this decision to block it.”

The certification ruling stemmed from a lawsuit filed by Julie Adams, a Republican member of the election board in Fulton County, which includes most of the city of Atlanta and is a Democratic stronghold. Adams sought a declaration that her duties as an election board member were discretionary and that she is entitled to “full access” to “election materials.”

Long an administrative task that attracted little attention, certification of election results has become politicized since Trump tried to overturn his loss to Democrat Joe Biden in the 2020 general election. Republicans in several swing states, including Adams, refused to certify results earlier this year and some have sued to keep from being forced to sign off on election results.

Adams' suit, backed by the Trump-aligned America First Policy Institute, argued county election board members have the discretion to reject certification. In court earlier this month, her lawyers also argued county election officials could certify results without including certain ballots if they suspect problems.

Judge McBurney wrote that nothing in Georgia law gives county election officials the authority to determine that fraud has occurred or what should be done about it. Instead, he wrote, state law says a county election official's “concerns about fraud or systemic error are to be noted and shared with the appropriate authorities but they are not a basis for a superintendent to decline to certify.”

The Democratic National Committee and Democratic Party of Georgia had joined the lawsuit as defendants with the support of Harris' campaign. The campaign called the ruling a “major legal win.”

Adams said in a statement that McBurney's ruling has made it clear that she and other county election officials “cannot be barred from access to elections in their counties.”

A flurry of election rules passed by the State Election Board since August has generated a crush of lawsuits. McBurney earlier this month heard a challenge to two rules having to do with certification brought by the state and national Democratic parties. Another Fulton County judge is set to hear arguments in two challenges to rules tomorrow — one brought by the Democratic groups and another filed by a group headed by a former Republican lawmaker. And separate challenges are also pending in at least two other counties.

#1243 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 12:51
by jasko_ba
Chmoljo wrote: 16/10/2024 12:42 neki dan se spominjalo da je MAGA luđakinja šefica biračkog odbora Gruzije, ili kako se već zove ta institucija pa mislim da je od značaja postaviti
na slicnu temu, kako su blokirali izbor sudija za vrhovni sud za vrijeme obame, pa period kad je donald ubacio svoje ljude u prvom mandatu i sta ce tek uciniti kad bi kojim slucajem bio ponovo izabran. ovaj nas vstv bi bio ponosan sto se tice korupcije :-)

#1244 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 13:08
by insaneinthebrain
ultima_palabra wrote: 15/10/2024 21:43
Jack Be Nimble wrote: 15/10/2024 20:23 Neka nam je sa srecom slijedece 4 godine sa Trampom. Nema Kamala sanse. Nije kao 2020, bilo ko samo ne Trump. Jebe je sto je zena, crnkinja i sve lose sto se desilo za vrijeme Bajdena se njoj oko vrata vese. Prosjecan glasac sve to sagleda u roku 30 sekundi na tik toku. To ona ne moze da preokrene u svoju korist.
Ma frajeru nije dobro, vidjelo se sinoc. Ako ga izaberu, mogli bi ga u ludaru odvesti, i onda predsjednik Vance 4 godine.
To im je i cilj. Ridji jednu godinu i JD preuzima ostatak

#1245 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 13:28
by emmir1
vaučer wrote: 16/10/2024 08:43 Apsolutno nije favorit. U najboljem slučaju za njega je 50-50, ali favorit sigurno nije. Trump je iscrpio količinu glasača koje može privući, uvijek su to isti brojevi. Jedina nova grupacija na kojoj radi pred ove izbore su nezadovoljni Gen Z mladi muškarci, gdje ima određenu prednost. Ali to je najnepouzdanija skupina na koju se ne možeš osloniti da sigurno glasaju. Dakle na maksimalnom je limitu onih koje može privući, dok s druge strane gubi lopatom umjerenije Republikance i glasove žena - koje za razliku od muškaraca puno, puno pouzdanije izlaze na izbore.


Nadam se da si u pravu

#1246 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 14:05
by sinuhe
Jes blesav Trump. Kako Amerikanci ne znaju to.

#1247 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 14:08
by Truba
jimmy-carter-has-fulfilled-his-final-dream

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jimmy-car ... inal-dream

a u pm zar je ovaj živ
a jbt na njega je svemir zaboravio
:lol:

#1248 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 14:11
by benki2
Bice knap, oni su bas duboko podjeljeno drustvo, a svakako ce pobjediti onaj kojeg aminuju zidovi, mada je njima svejedno koje predsjednik

#1249 Re: 2024 US elections

Posted: 16/10/2024 14:15
by ultima_palabra

#1250

Posted: 16/10/2024 16:15
by Hame_
I,... kako ide u Gruziji?!

*Imam izuzetno čudne "vibre" iz najnaprednijeg dijela Svijeta - Zapadne Europe, da nam dolazi "ledeno doba" :shock: