#119626 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 27/09/2022 18:32
Ukrajinci. Priprema za vazdusni desant.
Staaaari, ruski adet.statixx wrote: ↑27/09/2022 17:16DedovshchinaSanskiBiser wrote: ↑27/09/2022 16:51
Roditelji vojnika DNR koji su na polozajima oko mjesta Berestove obratili se pismeno direktno Putinu da se pozale na seksualno zlostavljanje i malteritranje kao i silovanje koje Kadirovci vrse na mladim vojnicima DNR, spominje se grupno silovanje dvojice mladih vojnika na punktu u Berestovu, a ciji roditelji su potpisnici pisma![]()
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Mocno!SanskiBiser wrote: ↑27/09/2022 19:03SpoilerShow
Kraken kompletan 9 minutni video operacije te jedinice prilikom oslobadjanja Balaklije.
ma daj bre ovo je ukrajinska propaganda, nato cgi rezirao guzve kao navodno bjeze
Maloruska spasonosna srpska desnica je presudna u pobEdonosnoj misiji oslobađanja Ukrajine, Kosova i regiona od strane Putlerovaca i majke Rusije.Vacić: Čast mi je što ću biti u Donjecku u trenutku kada Rusija vraća Donbas
Predsednik Srpske desnice Miša Vacić stigao je u Donjeck zajedno sa drugim međunarodnim posmatračima koji prate sprovođenje referenduma o prisajedinjenju oslobođenih teritorija Dobasa Rusiji, saopštila je Srpska desnica.
Miša Vacić međunarodni posmatrač na separatističkom referendumu u Ukrajini
25. sep 2022
Miša Vacić otišao u Moskvu da pruži podršku mobilizaciji
Vacić je boravio na Krimu i u Rostovu na Donu gde je pratio glasanje građana četiri oslobođena regiona koji su izbegli u ove delove Ruske Federacije.
Kako se dodaje, delegacija međunarodnih kontrolora u Donjeck je stigla u konvoju koji je obezbeđivala ruska vojska. Oni su obišli veliki broj glasačkih mesta na kojima se glasanje odvijalo mirno i bez nepravislnosti.
„Velika mi je čast što sam na poziv administracije predsednika Vladimira Putina uzeo učešće u ovom istorijskom događaju za Rusiju i što ću biti u Donjecku u trenutku kada Rusija i formalno, slobodnom voljom stanovnika četiri regiona, povrati Donbas. Na primeru Rusiji i uz pomoć Rusije, nadam se da će Srbija uskoro povratiti svoje nepravedno oduzete terotorije“, zaključio je Miša Vacić.
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2022/09/27/7369198/Until July 2023, I have a legal basis to be here. I don't know what will happen next. I hope to get citizenship. Theoretically, this is possible, but only in one way - through the decree of President Zelenskyy on the assignment of citizenship. This is difficult to achieve, but my lawyer and I are trying. I used to have a reason for this – marriage. Now he's gone. We rely on the fact that I cannot return to Russia because my husband is an Azovets, Azov is recognized as a terrorist organization in Russia. According to my moral principles, I will not return to Russia either.
Still short on time, thus here another ‘quick and dirty’ review, focusing entirely on developments in the ‘south-eastern-most corner’ of Kharkiv Oblast.
To help me save some time, have drawn a map of major action in this area over the last few days.
Sorry for the lack of details, but had to ‘zoom-out’, because this battlefield is meanwhile that large. From north towards south, and ‘in essence’:
1.) Ukrainian Armed Forces (ZSU) have punched out of their two bridgeheads in the Kupyansk area. The one in the north, opposite to Dvorichne, is still relatively small, and it took them few days to liberate and secure Tavilzhanka and Hryankyivka, but meanwhile they’re pushing on Lyman Pershyi and Vilshana.
2.) The major bridgehead — the one into eastern side of Kupyansk — was expanded handsomely, the last two days, with Ukrainians securing Synkivka in the north, Petropavlivka in the east, and all of Kupyansk-Vuzlovyi in the south.
One can expect these two bridgeheads to become one in the coming days (if this is not already the case), and then things to get only much worse for the Russian 20th Combined Arms Army.
3.) Putin has ordered all of the Russian Armed Forces (VSRF), his PMCs, and Separatists ‘not a step back’, and is rushing whatever troops he can only scratch together into the battle. Especially into eastern Kharkiv, slightly less so to the Bakhmut area. Over the last week, two major ‘groups of forces’ could be identified as being in the process of rebuilt with help of reservists and then rushed to Ukraine:
3rd Motor Rifle Division (MRD), in Belgorod, and 20th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade (GMRB), in Rostov na Donu.
….with results that must’ve been expected. Perhaps the ‘best example’ (or ‘worst’, from the Russian point of view) was what happened to the 237th Tank Regiment (TR) of the 3rd MRD. This had one of its battalion tactical groups rebuilt with mobilized reservists given less than 24 hours of ‘refresher training. Tell me what you want, but all the trust in Christianity couldn’t have helped them: unsurprisingly, that BTG was smashed to pieces with ease, losing dozens of vehicles and most of troops (this was the clash that then prompted Ukrainians to wonder why are the Russians even trying, 2–3 days ago). AFAIK, ZSU was still busy collecting all the stuff they’ve left behind, as of yesterday: no surprise there are people who say there’s nobody scared of the VSRF any more, than Russian reservists…
A captured BMP-2 of the 237th TR being towed to repairs by its new owners.
4.) Meanwhile, some three days ago, first reports surfaced about trains carrying reservists hurriedly organized into BTGs of the 20th GMRB being rushed from Volgograd to Rostov. I expected them to pass Luhansk yesterday, and reach the Svatove area today, but… well, then a report arrived about Ukrainians HIMARS-ing one of trains in question as this was about to reach Luhansk…. and now all one gets to hear is about ‘lots of 200s’ (Russian radio-code for ‘killed in action’). Think, it might take a few days longer for…whatever was left of the 20th GMRB to reach the battlefield. If at all…
Further south and west…
5.) While the Ukrainian 25th Airborne (which is, actually, a mechanized formation, just like all of the Russian VDV-troops) is doing what such formations can do the best (i.e. ‘roam enemy rear somewhere in between of Borova and Svatove, wreaking havoc as it goes’) meanwhile, additional ZSU troops have pushed from Pisky-Radkivski north and, reportedly, already liberated the first few villages. There are rumors about Ukrainian push into Luhansk somewhere in the Zalyman-Krasnorichenske area, but haven’t found (nor heard) any confirmation for this, yet.
6.) Two days ago, the ZSU — in its rush to take part in Putin’s referendum in Luhansk — liberated Nove. The Russians then claimed to have counterattacked and recovered the village (seems, they wouldn’t let anybody else have fun, tsk, tsk). Meanwhile, RUMINT has it Ukrainians drove into their northern rear and are ‘somewhere between Ivanivka and Kolodyazi’. They should have liberated Zelena Dolyna, too (haven’t seen any evidence for that yet (too short on time), and then Ridkodub, north of Lyman.
7.) Drobysheve appears to be still in Russian hands, but (‘at least’) de-facto surrounded. At least there’s no end of Russian complaints about the ZSU driving up and down in between of that village and Lyman.
8.) Lyman is still under Russian control, but this morning RUMINT had it that Ukrainians punched through the Russian frontline somewhere between that town and Yampil, or between Zarichne-Torkse and further east (?) — reaching the road to Kremina. Haven’t found time to search for evidence, but have no doubts that at least Ukrainian special forces are raiding that road — for days already.
Mind: through all of this time, Ukrainian special forces are roaming the Russian rear — especially by night — in the entire area from Kupyansk down to Kremina (at least): planting mines, ambushing convoys, capturing one or another Russian soldier (always useful for intelligence) — and then disappearing before the enemy knows what’s going on. Thus, the situation is not only ‘fluid’ but, from the Russian point of view, ‘extremely uncertain’, and the defences of certain places collapsing ‘all of a sudden’.
One way or the other, with this the entire group of Russian forces in the Lyman area is — definitely — in deep trouble. I’m still not sure who exactly is in command there: the southern side should be under the control of the I Army Corps (VSRF in control of Separatists), but the northern side….? Seems, is a mix of troops from the 1st Guards Tanks Army, 2nd Guards Combined Arms Army, the 41st Combined Arms Army, and whatever reservists Putin was able to bring there by now. More likely, it simply doesn’t matter: none of the local army commanders is in control, but, as usual, Putin. And, thanks to his micromanagement and frequent break-downs in the Russian chain of combat even the South OSK can’t say, right now, where should it send troops and where supplies…. (South OSK = Southern Military District of the VSRF; theoretically, the top Russian military authority for Ukraine). …which — hand on heart — is "good that way".
That all said: weather is a growing problem. It’s raining and the soil is soft. ‘General Mud’ is taking over the control and both sides are experiencing growing problem with off-road movement of their mechanization.
Nije to nista imamo mi i svojih kvislinga! Javn slika za buduca pokoljenja i sud javnosti! Moja Bosno sta ti sve istrpisBossona wrote: ↑27/09/2022 19:19Maloruska spasonosna srpska desnica je presudna u pobEdonosnoj misiji oslobađanja Ukrajine, Kosova i regiona od strane Putlerovaca i majke Rusije.Vacić: Čast mi je što ću biti u Donjecku u trenutku kada Rusija vraća DonbasSpoilerShow
Predsednik Srpske desnice Miša Vacić stigao je u Donjeck zajedno sa drugim međunarodnim posmatračima koji prate sprovođenje referenduma o prisajedinjenju oslobođenih teritorija Dobasa Rusiji, saopštila je Srpska desnica.
Miša Vacić međunarodni posmatrač na separatističkom referendumu u Ukrajini
25. sep 2022
Miša Vacić otišao u Moskvu da pruži podršku mobilizaciji
Vacić je boravio na Krimu i u Rostovu na Donu gde je pratio glasanje građana četiri oslobođena regiona koji su izbegli u ove delove Ruske Federacije.
Kako se dodaje, delegacija međunarodnih kontrolora u Donjeck je stigla u konvoju koji je obezbeđivala ruska vojska. Oni su obišli veliki broj glasačkih mesta na kojima se glasanje odvijalo mirno i bez nepravislnosti.
„Velika mi je čast što sam na poziv administracije predsednika Vladimira Putina uzeo učešće u ovom istorijskom događaju za Rusiju i što ću biti u Donjecku u trenutku kada Rusija i formalno, slobodnom voljom stanovnika četiri regiona, povrati Donbas. Na primeru Rusiji i uz pomoć Rusije, nadam se da će Srbija uskoro povratiti svoje nepravedno oduzete terotorije“, zaključio je Miša Vacić.
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haj to jos i nekako, stigli do ratista, ali citavu zeljeznicku kompoziciju sa svjeze mobilisanim su himarsovali
then a report arrived about Ukrainians HIMARS-ing one of trains in question as this was about to reach Luhansk…. and now all one gets to hear is about ‘lots of 200s’ (Russian radio-code for ‘killed in action
Da nije malo euforican kuperSanskiBiser wrote: ↑27/09/2022 19:32
Tom Cooper kratko azuriranje stanja na ratistu
Still short on time, thus here another ‘quick and dirty’ review, focusing entirely on developments in the ‘south-eastern-most corner’ of Kharkiv Oblast.
To help me save some time, have drawn a map of major action in this area over the last few days.
Sorry for the lack of details, but had to ‘zoom-out’, because this battlefield is meanwhile that large. From north towards south, and ‘in essence’:
1.) Ukrainian Armed Forces (ZSU) have punched out of their two bridgeheads in the Kupyansk area. The one in the north, opposite to Dvorichne, is still relatively small, and it took them few days to liberate and secure Tavilzhanka and Hryankyivka, but meanwhile they’re pushing on Lyman Pershyi and Vilshana.
2.) The major bridgehead — the one into eastern side of Kupyansk — was expanded handsomely, the last two days, with Ukrainians securing Synkivka in the north, Petropavlivka in the east, and all of Kupyansk-Vuzlovyi in the south.
One can expect these two bridgeheads to become one in the coming days (if this is not already the case), and then things to get only much worse for the Russian 20th Combined Arms Army.
3.) Putin has ordered all of the Russian Armed Forces (VSRF), his PMCs, and Separatists ‘not a step back’, and is rushing whatever troops he can only scratch together into the battle. Especially into eastern Kharkiv, slightly less so to the Bakhmut area. Over the last week, two major ‘groups of forces’ could be identified as being in the process of rebuilt with help of reservists and then rushed to Ukraine:
3rd Motor Rifle Division (MRD), in Belgorod, and 20th Guards Motor Rifle Brigade (GMRB), in Rostov na Donu.
….with results that must’ve been expected. Perhaps the ‘best example’ (or ‘worst’, from the Russian point of view) was what happened to the 237th Tank Regiment (TR) of the 3rd MRD. This had one of its battalion tactical groups rebuilt with mobilized reservists given less than 24 hours of ‘refresher training. Tell me what you want, but all the trust in Christianity couldn’t have helped them: unsurprisingly, that BTG was smashed to pieces with ease, losing dozens of vehicles and most of troops (this was the clash that then prompted Ukrainians to wonder why are the Russians even trying, 2–3 days ago). AFAIK, ZSU was still busy collecting all the stuff they’ve left behind, as of yesterday: no surprise there are people who say there’s nobody scared of the VSRF any more, than Russian reservists…
A captured BMP-2 of the 237th TR being towed to repairs by its new owners.
4.) Meanwhile, some three days ago, first reports surfaced about trains carrying reservists hurriedly organized into BTGs of the 20th GMRB being rushed from Volgograd to Rostov. I expected them to pass Luhansk yesterday, and reach the Svatove area today, but… well, then a report arrived about Ukrainians HIMARS-ing one of trains in question as this was about to reach Luhansk…. and now all one gets to hear is about ‘lots of 200s’ (Russian radio-code for ‘killed in action’). Think, it might take a few days longer for…whatever was left of the 20th GMRB to reach the battlefield. If at all…
Further south and west…
5.) While the Ukrainian 25th Airborne (which is, actually, a mechanized formation, just like all of the Russian VDV-troops) is doing what such formations can do the best (i.e. ‘roam enemy rear somewhere in between of Borova and Svatove, wreaking havoc as it goes’) meanwhile, additional ZSU troops have pushed from Pisky-Radkivski north and, reportedly, already liberated the first few villages. There are rumors about Ukrainian push into Luhansk somewhere in the Zalyman-Krasnorichenske area, but haven’t found (nor heard) any confirmation for this, yet.
6.) Two days ago, the ZSU — in its rush to take part in Putin’s referendum in Luhansk — liberated Nove. The Russians then claimed to have counterattacked and recovered the village (seems, they wouldn’t let anybody else have fun, tsk, tsk). Meanwhile, RUMINT has it Ukrainians drove into their northern rear and are ‘somewhere between Ivanivka and Kolodyazi’. They should have liberated Zelena Dolyna, too (haven’t seen any evidence for that yet (too short on time), and then Ridkodub, north of Lyman.
7.) Drobysheve appears to be still in Russian hands, but (‘at least’) de-facto surrounded. At least there’s no end of Russian complaints about the ZSU driving up and down in between of that village and Lyman.
8.) Lyman is still under Russian control, but this morning RUMINT had it that Ukrainians punched through the Russian frontline somewhere between that town and Yampil, or between Zarichne-Torkse and further east (?) — reaching the road to Kremina. Haven’t found time to search for evidence, but have no doubts that at least Ukrainian special forces are raiding that road — for days already.
Mind: through all of this time, Ukrainian special forces are roaming the Russian rear — especially by night — in the entire area from Kupyansk down to Kremina (at least): planting mines, ambushing convoys, capturing one or another Russian soldier (always useful for intelligence) — and then disappearing before the enemy knows what’s going on. Thus, the situation is not only ‘fluid’ but, from the Russian point of view, ‘extremely uncertain’, and the defences of certain places collapsing ‘all of a sudden’.
One way or the other, with this the entire group of Russian forces in the Lyman area is — definitely — in deep trouble. I’m still not sure who exactly is in command there: the southern side should be under the control of the I Army Corps (VSRF in control of Separatists), but the northern side….? Seems, is a mix of troops from the 1st Guards Tanks Army, 2nd Guards Combined Arms Army, the 41st Combined Arms Army, and whatever reservists Putin was able to bring there by now. More likely, it simply doesn’t matter: none of the local army commanders is in control, but, as usual, Putin. And, thanks to his micromanagement and frequent break-downs in the Russian chain of combat even the South OSK can’t say, right now, where should it send troops and where supplies…. (South OSK = Southern Military District of the VSRF; theoretically, the top Russian military authority for Ukraine). …which — hand on heart — is "good that way".
That all said: weather is a growing problem. It’s raining and the soil is soft. ‘General Mud’ is taking over the control and both sides are experiencing growing problem with off-road movement of their mechanization.
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Iskreno mene euforija drzi i ne pusta jos od prvih dana invazije kad su pocele izlazit prve slike cuda otpora ukrajinaca. Kazem vam 1.10