#118976 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 25/09/2022 22:43
Bub , nema ih milijardu i sve ih je manje,agresora
Zelenskyy noted that "people, in particular in Dagestan, began to fight for their lives."
"Why would their husbands, brothers, sons die in this war? In the war that one person wants, in the war against our people on our land. Fight to ensure that your children are not sent to death – everyone who can be taken under this criminal Russian mobilization. Because if you come to take the lives of our children, I will tell you as a father, we will not let you go alive," the president said.
He once again urged the inhabitants of Russia "not to obey criminal mobilization, to flee or surrender to Ukrainian captivity at the first opportunity."
te uvodni dio wiki članka "Genocid nad Čerkezima":The Russo-Circassian War (also known as the Russian Invasion of Circassia) was the invasion of Circassia by Russia, starting in 1763 with the Russian Empire assuming authority in Circassia, followed by the Circassian refusal, and ending 101 years later with the last army of Circassia defeated on 21 May 1864 (O.S), making it exhausting and casualty-heavy for both sides. The Circassians fought the Russians longer than all the other peoples of the Caucasus, and the Russo-Circassian War was the longest war both Russia and Circassia have ever fought.
During and after the war, the Russian Empire employed a genocidal strategy of systematically massacring civilians which resulted in the Circassian genocide where up to 1,500,000 Circassians (85-97% of the total population) were either killed or expelled to the Ottoman Empire (especially to modern-day Turkey; see Circassians in Turkey), creating the Circassian diaspora. While the war was initially an isolated conflict, Russian expansion through the entire region soon drew a number of other nations in the Caucasus into the conflict. As such, the war is often considered the western half of the Caucasus War.
During the war, the Russian Empire did not recognize Circassia as an independent region, and as a result; it considered Circassia Russian land which was under rebel occupation, despite the fact that the region was not and had never been under Russian control. Russian generals did not refer to the Circassians by their ethnic name, instead, they called the Circassians "mountaineers", “bandits", and "mountain scum". The war has been subjected to historical revisionism and it has also garnered controversy due to the fact that later Russian sources mostly ignored or belittled the conflict, and Russian state media and officials have gone as far as to claim that the conflict "never happened” and they have also claimed that Circassia "voluntarily joined Russia in the 16th century".
Narod Čerkeza se raselio po cijelom Osmanskom carstvu, jedan manji dio je završio i u Bosni i Hercegovini. Mnoge porodice u Bosni i Hercegovini vuku korijene sa Kavkaza, iz Čerkezije. Jedno od najočitijih prezimena kod nas i drugdje je - Čerkez.The Circassian genocide, or Tsitsekun, was the Russian Empire's systematic mass murder, ethnic cleansing, and expulsion of 80–97% of the Circassian population, around 800,000–1,500,000 people, during and after the Russo-Circassian War (1763–1864). The peoples planned for removal were mainly the Circassians, but other Muslim peoples of the Caucasus were also affected. Several methods used by Russian forces such as impaling and tearing the bellies of pregnant women were reported. Russian generals such as Grigory Zass described the Circassians as "subhuman filth", and glorified the mass murder of Circassian civilians, justified their use in scientific experiments, and allowed their soldiers to rape women.
During the Russo-Circassian War, the Russian Empire employed a genocidal strategy of massacring Circassian civilians. Only a small percentage who accepted Russification and resettlement within the Russian Empire were completely spared. The remaining Circassian population who refused were variously dispersed or killed en masse. Circassian villages would be located and burnt, systematically starved, or their entire population massacred. Leo Tolstoy reported that Russian soldiers would attack village houses at night. William Palgrave, a British diplomat who witnessed the events, adds that "their only crime was not being Russian". In 1864, "A Petition from Circassian leaders to Her Majesty Queen Victoria" was signed by the Circassians requesting humanitarian aid from the British Empire. In the same year, mass deportation was launched against the surviving population before the end of the war in 1864 and it was mostly completed by 1867. Some died from epidemics or starvation among the crowds of deportees and were reportedly eaten by dogs after their death. Others died when the ships underway sank during storms.
Calculations, including taking into account the Russian government's own archival figures, have estimated a loss of 80–97% of the Circassian population in the process. The displaced people were settled primarily to the Ottoman Empire. Sources state that as many as 1 to 1.5 million Circassians were forced to flee in total, but only half could make it to land. Ottoman archives show nearly 1 million migrants entering their land from the Caucasus by 1879, with nearly half of them dying on the shores as a result of diseases. If Ottoman archives are correct, it would make it the biggest genocide of the 19th century, and indeed, in support of the Ottoman archives, the Russian census of 1897 records only 150,000 Circassians, one tenth of the original number, still remaining in the now-conquered region.
Znam vidio sam Nego kazem da su ga pustili sta bi mu tek uradio.nota1969 wrote: ↑25/09/2022 21:46udario ga Dagestanac glavom onako spengandrug_profi wrote: ↑25/09/2022 21:36
Drot pitchka, udara samar spenganom liku. I onda mu se unosi u lice kao on zajeban.
Da su dagestanca pustili polomio bi ga za 3 sekunde.
Ima dakako. Kao i među Srbima što ima fin procenat normalnih ljudi, ali dzaba kad je vecina zatupljena i otrovana SPC mitologijom i SANU ublehama.
Putuj, Sergej, i ne naginji se kroz prozor..JoseMujica wrote: ↑25/09/2022 23:08
pozvao Putler na raport svog delegata iz Dagestana u Moskvu....samo nek ovaj pazi na kore od banana
Lik nosi "sijač smrti", nije mi ga sekunde žao.drug_profi wrote: ↑25/09/2022 22:31A vidi, godra mi. Znam da je dobio sto je trazio i zasluzio.
Ali fetalni polozaj prije smrti me dira kao covjeka. Pred smrt je postao samo bespomocno stvorenje koje treba majku, neciju ruku i utjehu.
Jbg. Nisam ja krvolocan toliko da nema emocije, pa makar trajala sekundu.
Heroje sam uvijek zamišljao,prije agresije na RBiH,kao neke snažne i onako zajebane face. U ratu i poslije rata shvatio sam da su većinom heroji, ona obična raja,koja u većini slučaja nisu podigli glas na nekog,koji su vodili mirne živote….ovaj mali je jedan od tih primjera. Obični klinac iz neke mahale….drug_profi wrote: ↑25/09/2022 22:33Baby face. Kontas sta ce on. Pocnes ga maltretirat i zajebes se ko nikad u zivotu.![]()
Stvori stereotip i predrasudu…odlična podloga da se izgubi razum, a bez razuma ljudi su životinje spremne na sve…drug_profi wrote: ↑25/09/2022 22:58Ima dakako. Kao i među Srbima što ima fin procenat normalnih ljudi, ali dzaba kad je vecina zatupljena i otrovana SPC mitologijom i SANU ublehama.
Zamisli nas kako nam vjerski lider uporno decenijama govori da su Novi Pazar, Hvar, Brač, Korčula, Pelješac, Boka i Herceg Novi - Bosanski.
Pa otišli bi u qurac ko nacija za nekoliko budućih generacija, šizofrenija...
Iskreno poslije onog podsjecanja testisa ukrajinskim zarobljenicima želim im da umiru u najgorim mukamasumirprimus wrote: ↑25/09/2022 22:39Ja za njih suza i zaljenja nemam . Dobili su sta su trazili i uvijek su imali izbora. Bolje i castan zatvor nego ovo .drug_profi wrote: ↑25/09/2022 22:31
A vidi, godra mi. Znam da je dobio sto je trazio i zasluzio.
Ali fetalni polozaj prije smrti me dira kao covjeka. Pred smrt je postao samo bespomocno stvorenje koje treba majku, neciju ruku i utjehu.
Jbg. Nisam ja krvolocan toliko da nema emocije, pa makar trajala sekundu.
Nebuloza, nigdje ni linka ni teksta.drug_profi wrote: ↑26/09/2022 01:41
E sad koliko je moguce da 2,5 miliona ljudi izađe iz zemlje za 3 dana, ne znam.
Navodno najvise prebjega u bivse drzave SSSR.
Ova knjiga na koju se pozivas (Circassian Genocide) je toliko dobra ali teska za citati da bi trebala biti obavezno stivno svakome ko zeli shvatiti rusku imperijalnu politiku jer se od tih vremena do danas u toj politici nista promijenilo nije.Nespin wrote: ↑25/09/2022 22:47 Da podsjetim na još jednu historijsku epizodu tumora na koži planete Zemlje, zvanom Rusija i jednom od mnogobrojnih genocida koji je počinila imperija zla u svojoj nikad završenoj ekspanziji: Genocid nad Čerkezima.
Uvodni dio članka sa Wikipedije na temu Rusko-Čerkeskog rata koji je u kontinuitetu trajao 101 jednu godinu:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Circassian_Warte uvodni dio wiki članka "Genocid nad Čerkezima":The Russo-Circassian War (also known as the Russian Invasion of Circassia) was the invasion of Circassia by Russia, starting in 1763 with the Russian Empire assuming authority in Circassia, followed by the Circassian refusal, and ending 101 years later with the last army of Circassia defeated on 21 May 1864 (O.S), making it exhausting and casualty-heavy for both sides. The Circassians fought the Russians longer than all the other peoples of the Caucasus, and the Russo-Circassian War was the longest war both Russia and Circassia have ever fought.
During and after the war, the Russian Empire employed a genocidal strategy of systematically massacring civilians which resulted in the Circassian genocide where up to 1,500,000 Circassians (85-97% of the total population) were either killed or expelled to the Ottoman Empire (especially to modern-day Turkey; see Circassians in Turkey), creating the Circassian diaspora. While the war was initially an isolated conflict, Russian expansion through the entire region soon drew a number of other nations in the Caucasus into the conflict. As such, the war is often considered the western half of the Caucasus War.
During the war, the Russian Empire did not recognize Circassia as an independent region, and as a result; it considered Circassia Russian land which was under rebel occupation, despite the fact that the region was not and had never been under Russian control. Russian generals did not refer to the Circassians by their ethnic name, instead, they called the Circassians "mountaineers", “bandits", and "mountain scum". The war has been subjected to historical revisionism and it has also garnered controversy due to the fact that later Russian sources mostly ignored or belittled the conflict, and Russian state media and officials have gone as far as to claim that the conflict "never happened” and they have also claimed that Circassia "voluntarily joined Russia in the 16th century".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocideNarod Čerkeza se raselio po cijelom Osmanskom carstvu, jedan manji dio je završio i u Bosni i Hercegovini. Mnoge porodice u Bosni i Hercegovini vuku korijene sa Kavkaza, iz Čerkezije. Jedno od najočitijih prezimena kod nas i drugdje je - Čerkez.The Circassian genocide, or Tsitsekun, was the Russian Empire's systematic mass murder, ethnic cleansing, and expulsion of 80–97% of the Circassian population, around 800,000–1,500,000 people, during and after the Russo-Circassian War (1763–1864). The peoples planned for removal were mainly the Circassians, but other Muslim peoples of the Caucasus were also affected. Several methods used by Russian forces such as impaling and tearing the bellies of pregnant women were reported. Russian generals such as Grigory Zass described the Circassians as "subhuman filth", and glorified the mass murder of Circassian civilians, justified their use in scientific experiments, and allowed their soldiers to rape women.
During the Russo-Circassian War, the Russian Empire employed a genocidal strategy of massacring Circassian civilians. Only a small percentage who accepted Russification and resettlement within the Russian Empire were completely spared. The remaining Circassian population who refused were variously dispersed or killed en masse. Circassian villages would be located and burnt, systematically starved, or their entire population massacred. Leo Tolstoy reported that Russian soldiers would attack village houses at night. William Palgrave, a British diplomat who witnessed the events, adds that "their only crime was not being Russian". In 1864, "A Petition from Circassian leaders to Her Majesty Queen Victoria" was signed by the Circassians requesting humanitarian aid from the British Empire. In the same year, mass deportation was launched against the surviving population before the end of the war in 1864 and it was mostly completed by 1867. Some died from epidemics or starvation among the crowds of deportees and were reportedly eaten by dogs after their death. Others died when the ships underway sank during storms.
Calculations, including taking into account the Russian government's own archival figures, have estimated a loss of 80–97% of the Circassian population in the process. The displaced people were settled primarily to the Ottoman Empire. Sources state that as many as 1 to 1.5 million Circassians were forced to flee in total, but only half could make it to land. Ottoman archives show nearly 1 million migrants entering their land from the Caucasus by 1879, with nearly half of them dying on the shores as a result of diseases. If Ottoman archives are correct, it would make it the biggest genocide of the 19th century, and indeed, in support of the Ottoman archives, the Russian census of 1897 records only 150,000 Circassians, one tenth of the original number, still remaining in the now-conquered region.
Ovo je samo jedan od genocida koje je kraljevstvo ORKA počinilo u svom višestoljetnom genocidnom pohodu. Samo u pohodu na Sibir zbrisani su mnogobrojni narodi sa lica zemlje, ostaci populacije potčinjeni i asimilirani, a danas njihove potomke, a samo jedni od njih su Burjati, šalju kao topovsko meso da ubijaju druge narode.
Ideologija krvi i tla danas živi u Rusiji punim plućima kao i prije dvjesto godina.
Vrlo moguće da dođe do pobune u Dagestanu, ali nisam optimističan po pitanju budućnosti Dagestanaca kao ni ostalih nacionalnih manjina, teško je otrgnuti se ropstva takve krvožedne imperije.
I to obučenog kadra, sa stažom u vojsci, treniranog na opremi koja vrijedi. Kakav pakao tek čeka ove friško mobilisane: razvaljene jedinice, osakaćen komandni kadar, loša oprema i još lošija logistika. Ni u sibirskom gulagu im ne bi bilo ništa lošije.