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#11801 Re: IRAN

Posted: 13/02/2017 22:04
by Kikibombona
GIVI wrote:Ovi Kurdi(zazah)to su šijiti jeli?A ovi u turskoj i Siriji su onda valjda suniti.Ima li i među njima kakve podjele?
Ima ih alevija i sunita. Zlocinacka kemalisticka vlast je koristila vjerske razlike da medjusobno posvadja Zaza Kurde. Tako su koristili sad jedne - sad druge. Kemalisti su pocinili strasan zlocin nad alevi Zazama u Dersimu 1937., ako se ne varam, da ne provjeravam, kada je ubijeno 40 000 Kurda, pretezno alevi Zaza. Masakrirali su i suni Zaze vise puta, nisu Kemalisti ubijali po vjerskoj nego po nacionalnoj liniji. Sa pojavom PKK ujedinile se Zaze, suni i alevi. Jedna od osnivacica PKK, cuvena Sakine, koju Turci ubise nedavno u Parizu, je alevi Zaza. Inace, Zaze, narocito alevi Zaze se smatraju tvorcima kurdskog nacionalizma i separatizma. Nije nikakvo cudo da su upravo malobrojne Zaze daleko najvise najebale od Turka. Mnogi masakr u Dersimu nad Zaza Kurdima tretiraju kao genocid. Ubijeno je 40 000 pripadnika male skupine.

#11802 Re: IRAN

Posted: 13/02/2017 22:45
by Juliuscezar
Kurdistan 6. stalni član vijeća sigurnosti UN-a, na tri mora da bude

#11803 Re: IRAN

Posted: 14/02/2017 17:54
by GIVI
Kikibombona wrote:
GIVI wrote:Ovi Kurdi(zazah)to su šijiti jeli?A ovi u turskoj i Siriji su onda valjda suniti.Ima li i među njima kakve podjele?
Ima ih alevija i sunita. Zlocinacka kemalisticka vlast je koristila vjerske razlike da medjusobno posvadja Zaza Kurde. Tako su koristili sad jedne - sad druge. Kemalisti su pocinili strasan zlocin nad alevi Zazama u Dersimu 1937., ako se ne varam, da ne provjeravam, kada je ubijeno 40 000 Kurda, pretezno alevi Zaza. Masakrirali su i suni Zaze vise puta, nisu Kemalisti ubijali po vjerskoj nego po nacionalnoj liniji. Sa pojavom PKK ujedinile se Zaze, suni i alevi. Jedna od osnivacica PKK, cuvena Sakine, koju Turci ubise nedavno u Parizu, je alevi Zaza. Inace, Zaze, narocito alevi Zaze se smatraju tvorcima kurdskog nacionalizma i separatizma. Nije nikakvo cudo da su upravo malobrojne Zaze daleko najvise najebale od Turka. Mnogi masakr u Dersimu nad Zaza Kurdima tretiraju kao genocid. Ubijeno je 40 000 pripadnika male skupine.
A imali Iran ikakav utjecaj nad njima?Mislim gdje god se nalazi Šijitsko stanovništvo(Sirija,Jemen,Irak,Lebanon,Hazere u Afganistanu i pakistanu)ono u velikoj mjeri podržava Iran.

#11804 Re: IRAN

Posted: 14/02/2017 18:50
by GIVI
It is haram for the clergy to use luxury cars: Ayatollah Khamenei
Be mindful! Practicing piety, asceticism, abstinence and restraint from chasing after materialistic luster and superficial attraction, in this world, are our main duties.

At the beginning of his Dars-e kharej lecture, on Sunday February 5, 2017, after elaborating on a narration of morality, the Leader of the Islamic Revolution touched on the issue of driving luxury cars. He stated that use of luxurious and expensive cars is forbidden (haram) for the clergy and clergy students. Ayatollah Khamenei said he had received a letter wherein he was informed that some of the clergy, ones who attended his lecture, commute in very expensive cars.

His Eminence stated, “Squander is haram for everyone: anyone, no matter how rich they are, if they have average incomes or if they are poor, it is haram for them to be extravagant. These luxurious cars are haram for use.”

Ayatollah Khamenei pointed out that there exist some security and protection concern in using expensive cars; however, he asserted, “Be mindful! Practicing piety, asceticism, abstinence and restraint from chasing after materialistic luster and superficial attraction, in this world, are our main duties.”
http://english.khamenei.ir/news/4633/It ... h-Khamenei
za to vrijeme saudijski degenerici koje podržavaju forumske vehabijice voze ovo
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#11805 Re: IRAN

Posted: 14/02/2017 18:59
by Kikibombona
GIVI wrote:A imali Iran ikakav utjecaj nad njima?Mislim gdje god se nalazi Šijitsko stanovništvo(Sirija,Jemen,Irak,Lebanon,Hazere u Afganistanu i pakistanu)ono u velikoj mjeri podržava Iran.
Nema. Dio Zaza je pro-PKK (vecina) a dio pragmatizma i oportunizma radi pro-Turska. Od pro-Turska vecina je pro-CHP, dakle sekularni Kemalisti, manji broj je pro-AKP. Ovi sto su pro-PKK su sekularni, tako da teokratski iranski rezim ne moze biti dio te price. I uz to, postoji respekt izmedju Turske i Irana, ne mijesaju se jedni drugima...

Dobar dio Azera u Iranu je pro-turski raspolozen, iako su siiti, pa se Turci opet drze po strani i ne love u mutnom.

Iran ima odredjen uticaj na sija Kurde iz Irana i manji na sija Kurde iz Iraka. Kod Kurda sektastvo i plemenske podjele nisu toliko izrazene kao kod Arapa. Za to najvece zasluge ima PKK. Oni su zestoki protivnici plemenskih i sektaskih podjela. KDP je isto nacionalisticki pokret i oni su dali dobar doprinos u borbi protiv plemenske i vjerske destruktivnosti i nazadnosti. Sto je manje plemenske i sektaske razjedinjenosti - to su perspektive Kurda u buducnosti bolje.

Sije iz Irana trenutno rovare po Afganistanu. Siizam je postao perzijski/iranski nacionalizam. U Afganistanu ima velikih broj siita i 'iranskih naroda'. Preko siizma Perzijaneri sire uticaj u regiji.

#11806 Re: IRAN

Posted: 14/02/2017 19:47
by insomnia78
Je l ovo ta alternativa koja se nudi narodu? Je l' bi se na to trebali ugledati?
Iran: Djevojke prerušene u muškarce pokušale ući na stadion u Teheranu
http://www.klix.ba/clanak/170214112

#11807 Re: IRAN

Posted: 14/02/2017 21:42
by insomnia78
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#11808 Re: IRAN

Posted: 14/02/2017 22:39
by pirpa
jesi li ti ono Abdicevac @insomnia78 ili sam fulio ...

#11809 Re: IRAN

Posted: 14/02/2017 22:40
by insomnia78
Vidis, to jos nisam bio

#11810 Re: IRAN

Posted: 14/02/2017 22:45
by pirpa
ok..izvini onda.

#11811 Re: IRAN

Posted: 15/02/2017 16:38
by aratet
Insomnija je Pahlavijevac.

#11812 Re: IRAN

Posted: 15/02/2017 22:56
by insomnia78
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#11813 Re: IRAN

Posted: 15/02/2017 23:34
by zvizdan


:D

#11814 Re: IRAN

Posted: 16/02/2017 08:16
by pirpa
:thumbup: :lol: :lol:

#11815 Re: IRAN

Posted: 20/02/2017 16:19
by sunceKOtepsija
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Mevlut Čavusoglu-ministar vanjskih poslova Republike Turske u izjavi za medije na konferenciji o sigurnosti u Minhenu upozorio na sektasku politiku koju provodi Iran i opasnost koju takav pristup predstavlja za regiju:
"Iran nazalost provodi sektasku politiku s ciljem slabljenja stabilnosti mnogih drzava u regiji, izmedu ostalih i Bahrejna i Saudijske Arabije. Iran nastoji da preuzme kontrolu nad Irakom i Sirijom-sto predstavlja vrlo ozbiljnu prijetnju."
Saudi Arabia, Israel present de facto united front against Iran
(Reuters)
Saudi Arabia and Israel both called on Sunday for a new push against Iran, signalling a growing alignment in their interests, while U.S. lawmakers promised to seek new sanctions on the Shi'ite Muslim power.

Turkey also joined the de facto united front against Tehran as Saudi and Israeli ministers rejected an appeal from Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif for Sunni Gulf Arab states to work with Tehran to reduce violence across the region.

Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir called Tehran the main sponsor of global terrorism and a destabilising force in the Middle East.

He sidestepped a question about Israel's call for concerted action with Sunni Arab states amid growing speculation that the two countries could normalise relations and join forces to oppose Tehran, much as Turkey has done.

The six Arab members of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), especially Saudi Arabia, accuse Iran of using sectarianism to interfere in Arab countries and build its own sphere of influence in the Middle East. Iran denies the accusations.

"Iran remains the single main sponsor of terrorism in the world," Adel al-Jubeir told delegates at the conference. "It's determined to upend the order in the Middle East ... (and) until and unless Iran changes its behaviour it would be very difficult to deal with a country like this."

Al-Jubeir said Iran was propping up the government of President Bashar al-Assad in the Syrian civil war, funding the Houthi movement in Yemen and fomenting violence across the region.

The international community needed to set clear "red lines" to halt Iran's actions, he said, calling for banking, travel and trade restrictions aimed at changing Tehran's behaviour.

Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman said Iran's ultimate objective was to undermine Riyadh, and called for a dialogue with Sunni Arab countries to defeat "radical" elements in the region.

"The real division is not Jews, Muslims ... but moderate people versus radical people," Lieberman told delegates.

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu also criticised what he called an Iranian "sectarian policy" aimed at undermining Bahrain and Saudi Arabia.

"Turkey is very much against any kind of division, religious or sectarian," he said. "It's good that we are now normalising our relations with Israel."

#11816 Re: IRAN

Posted: 23/02/2017 17:47
by sunceKOtepsija
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Nihat Zejbekđi ministar ekonomije Republike Turske otkazao dolazak na ranije najavljeni iransko-turski trgovinski forum u Teheranu koji je konsekventno navedenom odgoden

#11817 Re: IRAN

Posted: 25/02/2017 13:36
by aratet
Protesti zena nakon revolucije.

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#11818 Re: IRAN

Posted: 25/02/2017 13:38
by aratet
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#11819 Re: IRAN

Posted: 25/02/2017 16:28
by salik79
aratet wrote:Protesti zena nakon revolucije.

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#11820 Re: IRAN

Posted: 25/02/2017 21:33
by aratet
Cekaj, te slike su dokaz kako treba onima gore nametnuti burke? jel?

#11821 Re: IRAN

Posted: 25/02/2017 22:16
by salik79
aratet wrote:Cekaj, te slike su dokaz kako treba onima gore nametnuti burke? jel?
U Iranu nema burki. A da si obratio paznju uocio bi i medju njima one s "nametnutim burkama"...Daj ba, po koji put jednu te istu temu zvacemo?! A obojica znamo zasto to radis...

#11822 Re: IRAN

Posted: 25/02/2017 22:35
by aratet
salik79 wrote:
aratet wrote:Cekaj, te slike su dokaz kako treba onima gore nametnuti burke? jel?
U Iranu nema burki. A da si obratio paznju uocio bi i medju njima one s "nametnutim burkama"...Daj ba, po koji put jednu te istu temu zvacemo?! A obojica znamo zasto to radis...
Naletio sam na sliku gdje protestvuju iranke protiv nametanja tih marama (nemam pojma niti me interesuje kako se to zove), a ti opravdavas slikom zena sa tim maramama kao valjda neko opravdanje za nametanje.

#11823 Re: IRAN

Posted: 26/02/2017 17:48
by arzuhal
- Screw him... :lol:


#11824 Re: IRAN

Posted: 04/03/2017 12:33
by Maystor
Iran testirao S300PMU2 koji je nedavno isporučen

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Obratite pažnju na S400-like launcher (sjećate li se eksperta s vikipedije, Seawolfa, koji je tvrdio da u Siriji nema S400 sistema, jer launcher nije ovaj s prikolicom! )

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Meta je bio raketni dron karar

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#11825 Re: IRAN

Posted: 04/03/2017 12:41
by Challenger__
Maystor wrote:Iran testirao S300PMU2 koji je nedavno isporučen
I? Kakvi su rezultati testiranja? Da li su zadovoljni?