Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Legendarni Thomas Friedman, clanak juce iz NYT:
Whatever Trump Is Hiding Is Hurting All of Us Now

Our democracy is in serious danger.

President Trump is either totally compromised by the Russians or is a towering fool, or both, but either way he has shown himself unwilling or unable to defend America against a Russian campaign to divide and undermine our democracy.

That is, either Trump’s real estate empire has taken large amounts of money from shady oligarchs linked to the Kremlin — so much that they literally own him; or rumors are true that he engaged in sexual misbehavior while he was in Moscow running the Miss Universe contest, which Russian intelligence has on tape and he doesn’t want released; or Trump actually believes Russian President Vladimir Putin when he says he is innocent of intervening in our elections — over the explicit findings of Trump’s own C.I.A., N.S.A. and F.B.I. chiefs.

In sum, Trump is either hiding something so threatening to himself, or he’s criminally incompetent to be commander in chief. It is impossible yet to say which explanation for his behavior is true, but it seems highly likely that one of these scenarios explains Trump’s refusal to respond to Russia’s direct attack on our system — a quiescence that is simply unprecedented for any U.S. president in history. Russia is not our friend. It has acted in a hostile manner. And Trump keeps ignoring it all.

Up to now, Trump has been flouting the norms of the presidency. Now Trump’s behavior amounts to a refusal to carry out his oath of office — to protect and defend the Constitution. Here’s an imperfect but close analogy: It’s as if George W. Bush had said after 9/11: “No big deal. I am going golfing over the weekend in Florida and blogging about how it’s all the Democrats’ fault — no need to hold a National Security Council meeting.”

At a time when the special prosecutor Robert Mueller — leveraging several years of intelligence gathering by the F.B.I., C.I.A. and N.S.A. — has brought indictments against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian groups — all linked in some way to the Kremlin — for interfering with the 2016 U.S. elections, America needs a president who will lead our nation’s defense against this attack on the integrity of our electoral democracy.

What would that look like? He would educate the public on the scale of the problem; he would bring together all the stakeholders — state and local election authorities, the federal government, both parties and all the owners of social networks that the Russians used to carry out their interference — to mount an effective defense; and he would bring together our intelligence and military experts to mount an effective offense against Putin — the best defense of all.

What we have instead is a president vulgarly tweeting that the Russians are “laughing their asses off in Moscow” for how we’ve been investigating their interventions — and exploiting the terrible school shooting in Florida — and the failure of the F.B.I. to properly forward to its Miami field office a tip on the killer — to throw the entire F.B.I. under the bus and create a new excuse to shut down the Mueller investigation.

Think for a moment how demented was Trump’s Saturday night tweet: “Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign — there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!”

To the contrary. Our F.B.I., C.I.A. and N.S.A., working with the special counsel, have done us amazingly proud. They’ve uncovered a Russian program to divide Americans and tilt our last election toward Trump — i.e., to undermine the very core of our democracy — and Trump is telling them to get back to important things like tracking would-be school shooters. Yes, the F.B.I. made a mistake in Florida. But it acted heroically on Russia. What is more basic than protecting American democracy?

It is so obvious what Trump is up to: Again, he is either a total sucker for Putin or, more likely, he is hiding something that he knows the Russians have on him, and he knows that the longer Mueller’s investigation goes on, the more likely he will be to find and expose it.

Donald, if you are so innocent, why do you go to such extraordinary lengths to try to shut Mueller down? And if you are really the president — not still head of the Trump Organization, who moonlights as president, which is how you so often behave — why don’t you actually lead — lead not only a proper cyberdefense of our elections, but also an offense against Putin.

Putin used cyberwarfare to poison American politics, to spread fake news, to help elect a chaos candidate, all in order to weaken our democracy. We should be using our cyber-capabilities to spread the truth about Putin — just how much money he has stolen, just how many lies he has spread, just how many rivals he has jailed or made disappear — all to weaken his autocracy. That is what a real president would be doing right now.

My guess is what Trump is hiding has to do with money. It’s something about his financial ties to business elites tied to the Kremlin. They may own a big stake in him. Who can forget that quote from his son Donald Trump Jr. from back in 2008: “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross section of a lot of our assets.” They may own our president.

But whatever it is, Trump is either trying so hard to hide it or is so naïve about Russia that he is ready to not only resist mounting a proper defense of our democracy, he’s actually ready to undermine some of our most important institutions, the F.B.I. and Justice Department, to keep his compromised status hidden.

That must not be tolerated. This is code red. The biggest threat to the integrity of our democracy today is in the Oval Office.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/opin ... putin.html

Hoce li liberalni mediji napokon poceti nazivati stvari pravim imenom, a ne uporno postavljati pitanje zasto se Trump toliko buni protiv istrage o Rusiji?
Buni se zato sto je on licno upleten.
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Da je Trump budala, to je bilo jasno od početka kandidature, a po svoj prilici je ucjenjen i izdajica.
Pravi problem su republikanci koji ga bezuslovno podržavaju i nepismeni, beskrupulozni narod kojem je ovaj "super" vođa.

Ukratko, Trump je simptom, a društvo je bolesno jer uprkos iznesenim dokazima ne želi samo sebi dobro.
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daddy-kool wrote:Da je Trump budala, to je bilo jasno od početka kandidature, a po svoj prilici je ucjenjen i izdajica.
Pravi problem su republikanci koji ga bezuslovno podržavaju i nepismeni, beskrupulozni narod kojem je ovaj "super" vođa.

Ukratko, Trump je simptom, a društvo je bolesno jer uprkos iznesenim dokazima ne želi samo sebi dobro.
Ima dobar clanak u The Week o tome:
Donald Trump is our first porno president

Donald J. Trump is America's first pornographic president.

Sure, JFK and Bill Clinton lived lives of debauchery in and out of the White House. But Kennedy's sex life was a pastiche of WASP glamour, endless boring affairs of the necking-after-lawn-tennis variety. Bubba, meanwhile, was a genuine Arkansas country boy in the best and worst sense. Tearing up the green at some backwater country club with his brother Roger and a few ladies they picked up at the Razorbacks game is, or at least used to be, his highest aspiration. The 35th and 40th presidents of the United States were mere perverts. Trump is something different.

It's not only the case that he is our first president credibly accused of having had affairs with multiple porn stars. It's that his mind, personality, and appearance are fundamentally pornographic. The tawdry aesthetic of pornography is what lies behind his orange skin, his bleached blond hair, his protruding stomach, even his klix white tennis shorts. Trump Tower, with its faux marble and imitation gilt and lifeless plastic palms, is a porno location. So is Mar-a-Lago, where overweight boomer tycoons pay hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to engage in a Ron Jeremy parody of leisure. So, too, in Trump's mind, is the White House.

Trump is president in the same sense that Dirk Diggler in Boogie Nights is a secret agent. He goes through the motions of being the commander in chief, making vague references to "deals," having poorly stage-managed "meetings" with people whose costumes indicate that they could be klix members of Congress, having his picture taken with this or that supposed foreign leader. But all this is a put-on, a painfully necessary antecedent to the titillating action craved by his most enthusiastic followers, most of whom are white men of middle age and older: the cable news equivalent of the nudie scenes.

The truth about Trump and the cheap nature of his political appeal is that it is onanistic. He owns the libs hard onscreen and his fans get off. Two minutes later their euphoria has subsided and they are back to railing against entitled snowflake millennials who live with their parents while plotting with Antifa to sell American jobs to ISIS jihadists in exchange for organic avocado toast squares.

As with pornography, the experience for Trump fanboys can be addictive. It also has a kind of spiraling effect. Literature suggests that the man who starts off Googling "ample bosom" eventually moves on to foot fetishism and then to Japanese schoolgirls engaged in illicit congress with elderly men dressed as various minor characters from Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. It's the same thing with those who enjoy Trump's endless televisual antics. It begins innocently, laughing along with him as he mocks John McCain, a natural enough pastime but one that, like any good thing, becomes a bad one if indulged to excess. Two years later it has metamorphosed into getting your jollies from four-week marathon sessions of the president mocking Haitian refugees and composing encomiums to resigned domestic abusers.

Where will it end? Posting on Facebook that the media is lying about Trump's retweet of an article from PatriotBulletin.net claiming that Mueller spent a hot and heavy evening with Crooked Hillary that was taped by weirdo Lil Bob Corker and covered up by the murderers at Morning Joe in an attempt to distract the American people from the beauty of the latest Infrastructure Week? The mind reels.

What these addicts need to understand is that this activity is not healthy for them, physically or spiritually. The desire to offend the sensibilities of the higher liberalism — the right-thinking consensus that flows seamlessly from The New York Times to Davos to the advertising departments of the world's wealthiest corporations to the latest DNC talking points — and its adherents is a wholesome one. It's a natural appetite that, when properly channeled, can be ordered to the common good. It can also be abused. There are more wholesome ways of making it clear that you did not think that the repeal of net neutrality was not the worst atrocity in the history of American governance or that #theOscars are the wokest thing since Gandhi.

Give your frazzled eyeballs and fingers a break, guys.
http://theweek.com/articles/755765/dona ... -president

Ukratko, nekima je interesantno gledati ovakvu budalu kako se izdrkava.
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Gdje god krenes, na ruske trolove naletis. Hajmo jos malo onih vjesti o popunjenosti krimskih plaza, mozda se neka preostala budal jos da uloviti.
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http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/tr ... -naoruzali
Američki predsjednik Donald Trump sugerirao je da bi naoružavanje nastavnika moglo pomoći u sprečavanju masakra poput prošlosedmične pucnjave u školi na Floridi, kada je ubijeno 17 učenika.
Hljebe :zid:
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cyprus wrote:http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/tr ... -naoruzali
Američki predsjednik Donald Trump sugerirao je da bi naoružavanje nastavnika moglo pomoći u sprečavanju masakra poput prošlosedmične pucnjave u školi na Floridi, kada je ubijeno 17 učenika.
Hljebe :zid:
Kakav trol :-)
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trump ima djonice :cry:
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Bar ce biti dobrih filmova o Trumpovom precedavanju. Ako ne sjebe sve u p.m. nehotice.
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ne znam da li je prije neko to spominjao, ali SAD ovim dokazuju koliko, u stvari imaju solidan državni aparat, koji je u stanju amortizovati i ovog idiota.

jasno, napravio je i napraviće još štete, ali opet nije u pitanju totalni sunovrat.
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cyprus wrote:http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/tr ... -naoruzali
Američki predsjednik Donald Trump sugerirao je da bi naoružavanje nastavnika moglo pomoći u sprečavanju masakra poput prošlosedmične pucnjave u školi na Floridi, kada je ubijeno 17 učenika.
Hljebe :zid:
Nije to sugerisao, cak ni on nije toliko blesav.
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Fudo387 wrote:
cyprus wrote:http://balkans.aljazeera.net/vijesti/tr ... -naoruzali
Američki predsjednik Donald Trump sugerirao je da bi naoružavanje nastavnika moglo pomoći u sprečavanju masakra poput prošlosedmične pucnjave u školi na Floridi, kada je ubijeno 17 učenika.
Hljebe :zid:
Nije to sugerisao, cak ni on nije toliko blesav.
Jeste, kako nije?

Nije rekao treba naoruzati sve, vec odredjeni broj.
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wewa wrote:Image

trump ima djonice :cry:
Da budemo posteni, vjerovatno je ovo normalno u politici, da imas djonice, kad si u nekoj debati ili sastanku, ali ovo sto pise na njegovom djonicu. :-) Cuj "I hear you". :-) Neko ga treba posjetiti na to. :-)
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jeza u ledja wrote:
wewa wrote:Image

trump ima djonice :cry:
Da budemo posteni, vjerovatno je ovo normalno u politici, da imas djonice, kad si u nekoj debati ili sastanku, ali ovo sto pise na njegovom djonicu. :-) Cuj "I hear you". :-) Neko ga treba posjetiti na to. :-)
mene podsjetilo na

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to se bolan sakrije, da ko ne vidi... :cry:
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Haha, sta je ovo iznad? :lol:
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Ovo gore mi je teze citat' nego kineski. :lol:
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jeza u ledja wrote:Haha, sta je ovo iznad? :lol:
Cijenjena hrvatska zastupnica u evropskom parlamentu Ingrid Antičević-Marinović. :D

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jeza u ledja wrote:
Fudo387 wrote: Nije to sugerisao, cak ni on nije toliko blesav.
Jeste, kako nije?

Nije rekao treba naoruzati sve, vec odredjeni broj.
Ludilo dostize svoj vrhunac...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... ss-n850281
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Kakav debil :roll:

On veze nema ni o cemu, pa kad na nesto naleti pocne sa svojim idejama. Cuj da naprave rejting za filmove nasilnog karaktera i video igrice. Pitam se da li on zna da to vec postoji vec decenijama? :?

Zamisli pocne drzava da narucuje oruzje i obucava nastavnike, placa ih za lekcije i tako. :shock:
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GandalfSivi wrote:
jeza u ledja wrote:
Fudo387 wrote: Nije to sugerisao, cak ni on nije toliko blesav.
Jeste, kako nije?

Nije rekao treba naoruzati sve, vec odredjeni broj.
Ludilo dostize svoj vrhunac...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... ss-n850281
:lol:
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GandalfSivi wrote:
jeza u ledja wrote:
Fudo387 wrote: Nije to sugerisao, cak ni on nije toliko blesav.
Jeste, kako nije?

Nije rekao treba naoruzati sve, vec odredjeni broj.
Ludilo dostize svoj vrhunac...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... ss-n850281
a sto je ludilo?

po meni je ludilo sto u americi jednom mjesecno klinac udje u skolu i povalja 20 djaka i tako vec godinama unazad. Ja stvarno ne vidim sta je ludje od tog. ako su uveli naoruzane marshale u avione zasto ne bi i po skolama
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vivaldi wrote:a sto je ludilo?

po meni je ludilo sto u americi jednom mjesecno klinac udje u skolu i povalja 20 djaka i tako vec godinama unazad. Ja stvarno ne vidim sta je ludje od tog. ako su uveli naoruzane marshale u avione zasto ne bi i po skolama
kakvi marshali, fakat hoce trenirati ucitelje, kaze dace i extra na platu onima koji budu najbolje pucali.
:lol:
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Fudo387 wrote:
vivaldi wrote:a sto je ludilo?

po meni je ludilo sto u americi jednom mjesecno klinac udje u skolu i povalja 20 djaka i tako vec godinama unazad. Ja stvarno ne vidim sta je ludje od tog. ako su uveli naoruzane marshale u avione zasto ne bi i po skolama
kakvi marshali, fakat hoce trenirati ucitelje, kaze dace i extra na platu onima koji budu najbolje pucali.
:lol:
fudo da moje dijete ide u tu shkolu sasvim sigurno ne bih trazio mahatmu gandija, dr philla, socijalne radnike, pedagoge i psihijatre vec mitraljesko gnijezdo na ulazu.

kad imas ludu omladinu naoruzanu do zuba, tu finski model ne pomaze.
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vivaldi wrote:udo da moje dijete ide u tu shkolu sasvim sigurno ne bih trazio mahatmu gandija, dr philla, socijalne radnike, pedagoge i psihijatre vec mitraljesko gnijezdo na ulazu.

kad imas ludu omladinu naoruzanu do zuba, tu finski model ne pomaze.
Ma nece on profesionalce staviti da to obezbjedjuju, vec obicne prosvjetne radnike.
Vidis da nije normalan. Zamisli sad nekog od svojih profesora iz skole u ulozi US marshala, sa geverom za pasom, i na sta to lici.
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#11775 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Američka nazovi-kultura je utemeljena na nasilju, tu više niko i ništa ne pomaže. Ovi trendovi će se nastaviti dok se ne desi kakva kataklizma koja će dovesti do katarze.

Sve ostalo je sviranje qrcu.
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