#115226 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 13/09/2022 22:43
Na snimku se može vidjeti kako se Rusi organizovano povlače.
jos prije 4 godine, kad su uradili cover Welcome To The Jungle jer je Ken Tamplin preporucio kao odlican cover, a Darja ga podsjetila puno na Garbielu Guncikovu sto i nije cudo jer je ovaj klip Darja i koristila u velikoj mjeri kod pripreme za izvodjenje, Garbiela je inace Cehinja.agent_zero wrote: ↑13/09/2022 22:32Znači i ti znaš za Dariju?SanskiBiser wrote: ↑13/09/2022 18:35ne odgovaram za srcane probleme matorijih forumasa ( i sam samSpoilerShow)....gledajte i slusajte na vlastitu odgovornost
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Drago mi je, ja sam je proljetos nekad "otkrio", mala je beton betona, još rokerka i metalka![]()
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I svima nama već poznato...
Bogami, dobrano si me pretekaoSanskiBiser wrote: ↑13/09/2022 22:49jos prije 4 godine, kad su uradili cover Welcome To The Jungle jer je Ken Tamplin preporucio kao odlican cover, a Darja ga podsjetila puno na Garbielu Guncikovu sto i nije cudo jer je ovaj klip Darja i koristila u velikoj mjeri kod pripreme za izvodjenje, Garbiela je inace Cehinja.agent_zero wrote: ↑13/09/2022 22:32
Znači i ti znaš za Dariju?
Drago mi je, ja sam je proljetos nekad "otkrio", mala je beton betona, još rokerka i metalka![]()
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rusi kao objavili koliko sam shvatio da je odbijen napad na davidov vrh ili kako vec
Russia has secretly spent more than $300 million since 2014 to try to influence politicians and other officials in more than two dozen countries.
This is stated in the data of American intelligence provided by the US State Department, with reference to the Associated Press.
The State Department took the unusual step of releasing a diplomatic telegram that was sent Monday to many U.S. embassies and consulates abroad, many of which are in Europe, Africa and South Asia. The telegram, which was labeled as "sensitive" and not intended for foreign audiences but was not classified, contained a number of topics for discussion that U.S. diplomats were tasked with discussing with governments about Russia's alleged intervention. The telegram does not name specific Russian targets, but says that the United States provides classified information to individual countries on this matter. A senior administration official declined to say how much money Russia is believed to have spent in Ukraine.
Ukrajinci imaju jaku proizvodnju tenkova i ostale mehanizovne opreme. Popravice oni to i biće to u skorije vrijeme spremno za borbu.agent_zero wrote: ↑13/09/2022 23:04Ja mislim da je više od pola njih neupotrebiljvo i za dijelova samo.
I sami rusi su to rekli.
Na ovakvim stvarima se vidi razlika izmedju demokratskog lidera i diktatora-egomanijaka koji zna vojnu strategiju bolje od generala.Čitalac wrote: ↑13/09/2022 18:40 New York Times piše da je simulacija ofanzive u pravcu Hersona i Mariupolja koju su zajedno obavili Amerikanci i Ukrajinci pokazala da to neće dobro proći. Rezultati su javljeni Zelenskom nakon čega su se planeri okrenuli ka Harkovu. Istovremeno, ofanziva ka Hersonu, tvrdi New York Times, nije bila varka.
"Work (on the counteroffensive - ed.) began shortly after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told his generals that he wanted to take a tangible step to demonstrate that his country could repel the Russian invasion. By his order, the Ukrainian military developed a plan for a broad offensive in the south to return Kherson and cut off Mariupol from Russian troops in the east.
However, both Ukrainian generals and US officials believed that such an offensive would lead to significant losses among the armed forces. The time was also decisive, since the counteroffensive had to be carried out before the cold weather, so that Russian President Vladimir Putin could not use gas pressure on Europe.
In the summer, when the Ukrainian and American military tested a large-scale offensive in the south in the form of a game, they found that it would fail. These results were reported to Zelensky, after which Kyiv's plan changed. "Instead of one major offensive, the Ukrainian military offered two. The first is in Kherson, which most likely took days or weeks before getting tangible results due to the concentration of Russian troops. Another was planned near Kharkiv.
The United States, Britain and Ukraine assessed this plan and the three sides agreed that the new plan would work. At the same time, the publication points out that the offensive in the Kherson direction has never been fictitious or deceptive. "The plan, which emerged during discussions in mid-summer, relied heavily on U.S. intelligence and high-tech weapons. But U.S. officials insist that the merit of the offensive lies entirely with Mr. Zelensky and the Ukrainian military, who won a huge victory with relatively small forces in Kharkiv."
Kada kazu "vise od 300 miliona", vjerujem da je to samo ono za sta imaju prilicno jasne dokaze. Licno mislim da je rijec o milijardama.Čitalac wrote: ↑13/09/2022 23:10 Moskva je od 2014. potrošila više od 300 miliona dolara na potkupljivanje uticajnih političara u više zemalja, pokazuju podaci State departmenta. Zvaničnici (za sada) ne saopštavaju javno koliko je tog novca završilo u Ukrajini. Washington će zainteresovanim državama dostaviti konkretne podatke i imena.
Russia has secretly spent more than $300 million since 2014 to try to influence politicians and other officials in more than two dozen countries.
This is stated in the data of American intelligence provided by the US State Department, with reference to the Associated Press.
The State Department took the unusual step of releasing a diplomatic telegram that was sent Monday to many U.S. embassies and consulates abroad, many of which are in Europe, Africa and South Asia. The telegram, which was labeled as "sensitive" and not intended for foreign audiences but was not classified, contained a number of topics for discussion that U.S. diplomats were tasked with discussing with governments about Russia's alleged intervention. The telegram does not name specific Russian targets, but says that the United States provides classified information to individual countries on this matter. A senior administration official declined to say how much money Russia is believed to have spent in Ukraine.
slava heroju, ali nije puška i borba za svakoga, ne treba pretjerivati.
U ovoj prici se zasad spominju dodik i crmigorski df. A ko li ce josispiivat!!!Čitalac wrote: ↑13/09/2022 23:10 Moskva je od 2014. potrošila više od 300 miliona dolara na potkupljivanje uticajnih političara u više zemalja, pokazuju podaci State departmenta. Zvaničnici (za sada) ne saopštavaju javno koliko je tog novca završilo u Ukrajini. Washington će zainteresovanim državama dostaviti konkretne podatke i imena.
Russia has secretly spent more than $300 million since 2014 to try to influence politicians and other officials in more than two dozen countries.
This is stated in the data of American intelligence provided by the US State Department, with reference to the Associated Press.
The State Department took the unusual step of releasing a diplomatic telegram that was sent Monday to many U.S. embassies and consulates abroad, many of which are in Europe, Africa and South Asia. The telegram, which was labeled as "sensitive" and not intended for foreign audiences but was not classified, contained a number of topics for discussion that U.S. diplomats were tasked with discussing with governments about Russia's alleged intervention. The telegram does not name specific Russian targets, but says that the United States provides classified information to individual countries on this matter. A senior administration official declined to say how much money Russia is believed to have spent in Ukraine.