English Premier League

[Neelix]

da je engleska najjaca liga u velikoj britaniji - slozicemo se. sve ostalo je pretjerivanje.

[Cyrax]

Odkud ti to da ja provociram.Arsenalu je maximum FA kup ako im se posreci svidjelo se to tebi ili ne.

[hidrant]

da je engleska najjaca liga u velikoj britaniji - slozicemo se. sve ostalo je pretjerivanje.

Navedi mi jacu i obrazlozi mi to, ako ti nije mrsko.

[shadow]

Wenger se opet zajebaje, nikakva zvucna pojacanja nisu stigla a trebaju itekako. Mozda misli da je u ovom momentu najbitnije zadrzati postojeci kadar i ozbiljno racunati na povratak svih povrijedjenih, slazem se, ali isto tako mislim da to nije dovoljno za titulu. Joj da hoce neko uzeti Adebayora odvratnog i ufuranog, sta je s ovim Milanom, ganjaju li oni ovog krakonju sad kako je Dzeko ispao iz kombinacija?

[Charuga]

Cristiano Ronaldo: La Liga Better Than Premier League
The Portuguese winger, who has already been christened ‘CR9’ by Spanish press, believes that he will now be playing in the best league.
Jul 5, 2009 7:29:28 PM

Real Madrid megastar, Cristiano Ronaldo is relishing playing in Spain’s Primera Division after six years and countless accolades in the Barclays Premier League with Manchester United.
The world’s most expensive footballer will be officially unveiled at the Santiago Bernabeu on Monday evening but before his glittering night of nights, he has joined the eternal argument of which league between Spain and England is currently the best.
“The Premier League is a very good competition,” he was quoted as saying on guardian.co.uk, “but I think that the Spanish league is going to have a little more quality because of the players who are arriving.
“Both leagues are going to be very good, but I think that with Florentino Perez’s signings, the Spanish league will be superior to the English,” he added.
With Los Blancos already having Kaka and Karim Benzema in their ranks while continuing to pursue the likes of Franck Ribery, the rivalry in La Liga will be intense in the 2009/10 campaign, especially with Barcelona looking to bring in Keirrison and Javier Mascherano and Atletico pursuing Andreas Pirlo.
“It’s going to be a magnificent competition in Spain this year,” Ronaldo enthused. “All the footballers have a lot of quality and the referees protect the players more.”

KS Leong, Goal.com

[belafonte]

Pa šta treba, da prizna da je prešo s konja na magarca ccc

[Charuga]

Kako kaze Nele, "ne djelim ja plate, ja samo citam vijesti" e tako i ja .. Nisam ja napisao vijest, samo sam je postavio ovde ...

[belafonte]

Kad si postavio ovaj tekst, mislio sam da oslikava tvoje mišljenje, a ti bi malo da razbuktaš raspravu

[hidrant]

Pa šta treba, da prizna da je prešo s konja na magarca ccc

Da ne bude da sam ja napisao.

[Charuga]

Kad si postavio ovaj tekst, mislio sam da oslikava tvoje mišljenje, a ti bi malo da razbuktaš raspravu

Ma kakvo moje misljenje, to je samo copy-paste ... Ja Ronalda ocima nisam mogao ni kad je igrao u Manchesteru a kamo li sad kad igra u Realu .. I poserem mu se na misljenje, sto to nije rekao prije godinu dana nego sad kad je dosao u Real ..
Malo samo da razbuktam ..

[Edin H.]

Kad si postavio ovaj tekst, mislio sam da oslikava tvoje mišljenje, a ti bi malo da razbuktaš raspravu

Ma kakvo moje misljenje, to je samo copy-paste ... Ja Ronalda ocima nisam mogao ni kad je igrao u Manchesteru a kamo li sad kad igra u Realu .. I poserem mu se na misljenje, sto to nije rekao prije godinu dana nego sad kad je dosao u Real ..
Malo samo da razbuktam ..

Neka si im rekao

[Facasplaca]

tipican predstavnik ljudi s niskom inteligencijom Ronaldo
Dok je bio u Unitedu onda je ENgleska liga bila naj na svijetu, cim je presao u Laligu ona postaje najbolja ali pazite koje on argumente pri tom navodi da potrijepi svoju izjavu. Kaze: "tamo svi najbolji igraci idu, io zbog toga je Primera najbolja liga na svijetu"

[Charuga]

Tevez Expresses Excitement After Joining Man City
Speaking for the first time since moving to Eastlands, Carlitos has spoken about the excitement that lies ahead.
Jul 13, 2009 8:36:50 PM

Carlos Tevez has spoken for the first time since joining Manchester City.
The Argentine striker has completed a £25 million move to Eastlands, pending a medical, and he could not hide his delight.
Speaking to The Daily Mail, he emphasized how excited he was to be part of City's new era.
He said, "The manager and the owners are very ambitious and that became clear to me the first time we spoke.
"This is the chance to be involved from the start, an opportunity to help build a special experience. There is a great feeling of excitement around the club.
"Look at the quality of the players who have been signed and the prospect of other top-quality players coming, too. Things are happening at this club.
"The owners made it clear to me that they will be doing everything in their power to make this an extraordinary club to play for.
"I look forward to being part of that experience."
Tevez then said that he was looking forward to working with Mark Hughes, the City manager.
"Mark Hughes played in my position for some of the biggest clubs in the world and understands the demands and pressure of playing as a striker," he said.
"I look forward to learning from him."
Next, Tevez outlined what he could bring to the team: "When I get the chance to play, I am confident that it can lead to goals, for me and for my team-mates.
"I am a team player who can score goals. I know my responsibilities."
In Tevez, City are signing a player with a proven record in the Premier League, as he made sure to point out.
He said, "My record of success speaks for itself.
"From helping West Ham to avoid relegation to helping Manchester United to two Champions League finals in two seasons. That's not a bad record!
"I hope to win many more trophies with City."
Finally, Tevez signed off by stating, "This decision is mine and mine alone.
"This is a new adventure for me and I thank the people who have made this possible. I am thrilled to be a City player.
"I can't wait for the new season to begin."

Arjun Miglani, Goal.com

[Charuga]

Tevez Expresses Excitement After Joining Man City
Speaking for the first time since moving to Eastlands, Carlitos has spoken about the excitement that lies ahead.
Jul 13, 2009 8:36:50 PM

Carlos Tevez has spoken for the first time since joining Manchester City.
The Argentine striker has completed a £25 million move to Eastlands, pending a medical, and he could not hide his delight.
Speaking to The Daily Mail, he emphasized how excited he was to be part of City's new era.
He said, "The manager and the owners are very ambitious and that became clear to me the first time we spoke.
"This is the chance to be involved from the start, an opportunity to help build a special experience. There is a great feeling of excitement around the club.
"Look at the quality of the players who have been signed and the prospect of other top-quality players coming, too. Things are happening at this club.
"The owners made it clear to me that they will be doing everything in their power to make this an extraordinary club to play for.
"I look forward to being part of that experience."
Tevez then said that he was looking forward to working with Mark Hughes, the City manager.
"Mark Hughes played in my position for some of the biggest clubs in the world and understands the demands and pressure of playing as a striker," he said.
"I look forward to learning from him."
Next, Tevez outlined what he could bring to the team: "When I get the chance to play, I am confident that it can lead to goals, for me and for my team-mates.
"I am a team player who can score goals. I know my responsibilities."
In Tevez, City are signing a player with a proven record in the Premier League, as he made sure to point out.
He said, "My record of success speaks for itself.
"From helping West Ham to avoid relegation to helping Manchester United to two Champions League finals in two seasons. That's not a bad record!
"I hope to win many more trophies with City."
Finally, Tevez signed off by stating, "This decision is mine and mine alone.
"This is a new adventure for me and I thank the people who have made this possible. I am thrilled to be a City player.
"I can't wait for the new season to begin."

Arjun Miglani, Goal.com

[ja.neron]

žao mi plavi ali ako Tevez osvoji F.A Kup sa City-em to im je najviši domet

[tesla]

----------Given-------------
Zabaleta-Dunne-Micah-Bridge
SWP--Ireland--Barry--Robinho
----Santa Cruz-Tevez--------

Na papiru je ovo momčad za naslov.

[Charuga]

žao mi plavi ali ako Tevez osvoji F.A Kup sa City-em to im je najviši domet

Meni nije zao jer ih ne simpatisem .. Ovo sam postavio cisto informacije radi ..

[Facasplaca]

sad ima city prejebenu momcad
izbalansiranu na svim pozicijama, dobro pokriveni na svim pozicijama, i sad to sve samo treba uigrati.
samo ne znam zasto city dovodi toliko napadace? pa u ovom trenutku imaju oko 8 napadaca ako se ne varam
i sto je najsmjesnije, trenutno su u pregovorima sa Ars oko otkupa Adebayora, prenosi BBC

[mirzanek]

Meni je arsenal jaći sad od mančastera.Oni i čelzi će se boriti iduće sezone za titulu

[ja.neron]

Meni je arsenal jaći sad od mančastera.Oni i čelzi će se boriti iduće sezone za titulu

tako je govoreno unazad tri godine pa MAN UTD uzimao po nekoliko trofeja u sezoni

[mirzanek]

Ja ne poričem da je mančaster prošlih sezona jači od arsenala,ali arsenal je izgradio stadion vrijedan preko milajardu eura,i u dugovima su preko 400 miliona funti,i da nije toga bilo sasvimsigurno da bi arsenal bio ispred mančastera i čelzija.Biće arsenal opet najbolji

[ja.neron]

Ja ne poričem da je mančaster prošlih sezona jači od arsenala,ali arsenal je izgradio stadion vrijedan preko milajardu eura,i u dugovima su preko 400 miliona funti,i da nije toga bilo sasvimsigurno da bi arsenal bio ispred mančastera i čelzija.Biće arsenal opet najbolji

i vlasnici MAN UTD su pod dugovima oko 700 miliona eura, a da nisu kupili bi mesija, iniestu, vilju, buffona, kasiljasa, esiena, gerard-a, torresa ...............................









ali malo sutra ovako može samo na manager-u sa chetovima

[mrtva kokoš]

sta serete po arsenalu dok nema cikcange,cekajte da se vrati pa onda

navijam za arsenal ali su trenutno manchoo i chelsea bolji

[mrtva kokoš]

sta serete po arsenalu dok nema cikcange,cekajte da se vrati pa onda

navijam za arsenal ali su trenutno manchoo i chelsea bolji

pod kojim li će se nickom sada pojaviti cikrant/hidcanga

mislim da ce ostati dosljedan ovim nickovima,osim ako ne skupi toliko protivnika njegovog razmisljanja pa opet krene ispocetka
kad mu ban istice dosadno na ovim sportskim temama

[ja.neron]

Big Four? It`s A Big Two Actually...

Only A Big Two Actually
Would everyone please stop referring to the 'big four' as anyone with half a brain will be able to tell you that within England there are only two teams who can actually refer to themselves as 'big teams' and they are Manchester United and Liverpool. Arsenal and Chelsea are not 'big teams', they have no history, no pedigree, world wide recognition and perhaps most importantly no history of winning trophies. To my mind Forest are a 'bigger team' than either Arsenal or Chelsea as they have been successful on the biggest stage of all, by winning and then retaining the European cup, the true bench mark of a truly 'big team' success in the biggest cup of them all.

I await responses from Gunners and Chelsea fans as to why they can call themselves a 'big team' but I have yet to heard a single reason as to why these two clubs can truly be classed as 'big teams'

Love always
Lionel Tutt (South Beds Drinking Champion)


This Could Be Liverpool's Year...If Alonso Stays
As a Liverpool fan, the prospect of Xabi Alonso leaving is very disappointing.

Not just because we look set to lose one of the best passers in the game and a player who acted with dignity after Rafa tried to offload him last summer (his performance when subbed on against Sunderland at the start of last season highlighted both).

But to me, it seems this summer that just retaining last season's squad (excluding Dossena, obviously), could be enough to get our noses in front in the league.

For all their big spending, it would be a huge achievment for Man City to go out and win the league immediately after all of these big-money transfers.

Arsenal aren't doing much in the market to close last season's gap, while Chelsea are in transition and aren't getting the targets they want, at least so far.

Man United, as reigning champions, look favourites to me for 2009-10. But I'd rather be up against them minus Ronaldo and Tevez (even if I'm a little nervous they've now got Owen).

Last season, as everyone knows, Liverpool drew a lot of games at home that we should have won. But that wasn't so much down to personnel as to the way we were playing (most draws came in a tricky mid-season patch that we later came out of strongly.) I think if we'd replayed those games at the end of the season, we'd have won them comfortably.

Even drawing them, we finished close to top spot and, with no major strengthening evident at our rivals (bar Man City), a repeat of last season's points tally could be enough this time round.

Benitez has been building a decent squad (okay, there have been som disasters along the way). And now he finally has it, it's a shame he can't keep it together for the purpose for which he assembled it in the first place - to win the title. This could be Liverpool's best chance in years.
Andy, Moscow


United Kids Make A Mint
Since 2005, Manchester United have made Ł35.05m in sales from our academy, with Rossi, Campbell, Richardson, Pique, Neville, Martin, Bardsley, Eagles, Shawcross, David Jones, Spector and Sylvan Ebanks-Blake all failing to make the grade but worth the money to other clubs. Once Danny Simpson is sold this summer and compensation for Eckersley agreed, that figure will be closer to Ł40m, and this is without including the money we got for Beckham a couple of years before.

Since 2005, you could say the sales from our youth team have funded the transfers of Evra, Vidic, Valencia, Park and Van der Sar, with money left over.

Since the class of '94, Wes Brown, Darren Fletcher and John O'Shea have made their way in to the first team, picking up close to 900 appearances between them. Whilst they're no David Beckham or Paul Scholes, you don't get hundreds of games for United if you're not quality, and if we had bought players of a similar quality, they would have cost us millions.

Whilst West Ham are in a league of their own when it comes to finding and developing quality players, if you compare United with the other clubs in the top four we're head and shoulders above them, even if you discount 'the kids' Hansen said would never win anything. Carragher, Gerrard, Terry and Owen came through in the 90s, before Ashley Cole came through the ranks at Arsenal, but other than that, they don't really have anything to write home about.

Arsenal may players who they claim come from the academy, but essentially, they were pinched from other teams' academies: Fabregas (Barca product), Clichy (Castelmaurou and Cannes) Gibbs (Wimbledon), Denilson (Sao Paulo), Ramsey (Cardiff) and Vela (Guadalajara). In fact, isn't Wilshere the only player they've produced themselves - and he has just six minutes of Premiership football to his name.

Of course, as well as producing our own, we also pinch players from other youth set-ups, like the da Silvas and Macheda, so to make the money stats fairer, if we are to look at United in the same way and discount the transfer fees of Pique and Rossi, we've still sold around Ł25m of our own talent over the past few seasons.

Next season, Sylvan Ebanks-Blake, David Healy, Danny Higginbotham, Kieran Richardson, Chris Eagles, Richard Eckersley and David Jones are amongst the United youth products who will be playing Premiership football. How many former Chelsea, Liverpool or Arsenal youth players are in the Premiership next season?

So when it comes to producing talent for our own club, producing talent of Premiership standards and making money from the academy, United outshine the other clubs in the top four on all counts. And given our financial situation, it's good to know that the club have ways other than ripping off the fans to make the money!
Scott, The Republik of Mancunia


Fed Up Of Being Called Fickle
As a Man United supporter, I am getting a bit sick and tired of us all being called fickle as some pathetic cheap shot by other fans over the Ronaldo and Tevez deals.

Regarding Ronaldo, I cannot recall seeing, hearing or reading many United supporters suddenly saying that he was rubbish and never wanted him anyway. One or two glory hunter types may have come out with things a bit like that, but to my knowledge, the vast majority of us said how he was a fantastic player, one of the best in the world, and were sad to lose the player, but; he was a detestable fella whose heart wasn't in it anymore, and that the 80m world record fee for him was good business. Hardly fickle, is it?

And with Tevez, I've wrote in before with my opinions on him, but the United support was quite split on him last season. There were some who didnt rate him that much and certainly not at 35m we would have to pay overall, while there were many others who just couldnt help loving the little fella for his work rate and tenacity. I was one of them who loved Carlos, and supported his claims for more games, and for Fergie to sign him up.

The thing is, pretty much no United supporter has ever claimed he was a prolific goalscorer, and very few would argue that he was worth the 35m, even those who defended his every action. If the past two months could be wiped away, the fee was much lower than it was, and Carlos was still that loveable chap who gave his all for United, then I for one would love to still have him this season and beyond. But now Carlos has gone to City (Judas) for the money, and has been nothing but a moaning, whinging idiot, bad mouthing Fergie and therefore the club and its supporters. Why is it now fickle to decide that the guy is a bit of a wanker, and that youre glad he is no longer at your club?

For example, you love and adore the ground your girlfriend/wife (or boyfriend/husband for the female readers) walks on. She has faults like everyone, but they are klix so nothing to worry about as she is the love of your life! Then one day she tells you that she has been sleeping with your best friend, that you were crap in bed, and she is leaving you to go and live with said best friend (not a true story by the way). So now you actually think that while she was the love of your life and you wished none of this had happened, she is actually a nasty little bitch and youre better off without her. Would your friends/family call you fickle for having this opinion, and say that you should go on for the rest of your life saying only nice things about her? No, thought not!

So why then is it any different when United supporters, who backed Carlos Tevez to the fullest, are now feeling he has made idiots of us all, and that maybe we dont quite love him so much anymore? He was a very good squad player, but for the price, he was actually a pretty average (goalscoring) striker. If he was a 30-goal-a-season striker, kicked out by United, who then went abroad (and not to City), said only nice things upon leaving, and THEN we all just say he was crap and didn't want him anyway, that is the definition of being fickle!
Nathan Phipps, Manchester


Actually Happy With Summer Dealings
A rare type of Manchester United Supporter here: Pleased with the summer dealings!

I'm a long-time reader but first-time contributor.

I'm absolutely sick to death with self-proclaimed 'true' Man Utd fans bemoaning Sir Alex's transfer dealings. No doubt these are the same 'fans' who threw their insults his way over the years when Ince, Hughes, Kanchelskis, Beckham, Keane & Van Nistelrooy left. They will also be the same fans who proclaimed that they 'always had faith' in Sir Alex when the likes of Scholes, Nevilles, Becks, Butt, Carrick, Anderson, Ronaldo etc. went on to replace the aforementioned United legends.

It's now the turn of another United Legend to ply his trade at pastures new. Who can begrudge him following his dream to play for Real Madrid. My dream as a kid was to play for Manchester United. Had I ended up at another club but was given the opportunity to play for United I would take it. It's not as though he left after a year and without winning anything. He spent six years at the club, gave his all and won a sackful of trophies.

It's now time for a new era. It will probably be Fergies last 'rebuilding'. In two years time the squad will be based on the young players coming through the ranks. Macheda, Welbeck, Da silva twins, Possebon and Gibson will be added to a squad that already contains young players like anderson, valencia, rooney, nani.

Valencia gives us the same directness but he's going to have to involve others in his play more than Ronaldo simply because he doesn't have the same talent. But hopefully that means more chances for Rooney, Berbatov and Owen (who I personally think is a great bit of business).

The squad will be left in excellent health and even this year I haven't seen too much to be worried about at Liverpool, Chelsea or Arsenal. I expect us to be in the running for the PL again and certainly we should be in the semis of the CL again. Especially when you consider that last season our title bid was based almost entirely on our defence keeping a record number of clean sheets.

And the main reason I have for such optimism is that boy ROONEY.

So I don't particularly want to see us waste Ł20m on Douglas Costa (who?), a player who's only played in 20 first team matches in Brazil. Or Ł60m on Aguero, a short, skillful, hard working attacker with an eye for doing something special (remind you of anyone?). Or Eto'o who would want Ł300,000 a week and would only hinder the development of Welbeck and macheda.

Finally, a word on Tevez: Expendable.
Mayur (hoping that Tevez doesn't score a last-minute winner to deny us the league), London


The Man United Paradox
Man Utd are a funny old club, on the one hand, I have often been an embarrassed Utd fan and found them difficult to defend. They have been at the head of the table since English football began to eat itself, a couple of decades ago now - they are rich and greedy and for a long time have used their power and influence to buy some of the best and/or most expensive players going ,which has helped them to dominate English football for the last however many years. They pioneered bringing out more and more kits to exploit sales, they were one of the first to list on the stock market, start their own magazine, then a TV channel and they are currently massively in hock thanks to being 'owned' by non-supporting, americans - against the wishes of the fans.

On the other hand I love 'em - they are steeped in tradition, usually play exciting, fast and innovative football. They generally show respect and loyalty to their players. They always have a good proportion of UK players in the squad and they develop talent and give youngsters genuine opportunities to make it. They even have, and have always had, some genuine born and bred Manchester players who actually support the team they play for. They have also had Sparky, Schmeichel, Robbo, Keane, Cantona, Cole & Yorke, Beckham, Ronaldo et al. Fantastic players that most self-respecting football fans would be excited to see play against their team. It's this face of Man Utd that makes me actually hope they start next season with the squad they have now (let's face it they've still spent more - on Valencia and Obertan - than the majority of teams will this window), play exciting football, and we see one or more of the youngsters break through - Welbeck, Macheda, Gibson, Fabio and Rafael all have a decent chance - then I will be a happy man. And if we do this but don't win anything, then I'll still be happy because that's how football should be..
Simon, Hull (my other team and I'm proud of it!)


Misery Is Relative
I can understand that Man Utd's 'problems' are nothing compared to that of Luton, Stockport or even the likes of Portsmouth but given all football fans across the league like to moan about their team's perceived short-comings it's all relative.
Each set of fans bases expectations on recent history so for example if Stockport got promotion to the Championship they'd be rightly delighted but that doesn't mean MU's fans wouldn't have the right to go ape should we get relegated to the same league, for example.

Bearing that in mind it's not unreasonable for United fans to be worried that the recent success of three straight Premierships and two Champions League finals is looking less and less likely to be continued.

Taking that three years as a whole we we had key players such as Ronaldo (superb throughout), Scholes and Giggs who dispite previous brilliance and the sentimental player of the year award last season have both started to look their age, and Hargreaves now seemingly permanently crocked. So I would say we are in the worst position we have been in during that period by some way. Especially when you consider we have only three recognised senior strikers, one of which still has a huge fitness question mark over him.

Based on last season's performances we have more players than ever that are either good-fantastic prospects but still way too green (eg Anderson, Da Silva twins, Welbeck, Macheda, Nani), just not good enough but will still play a lot (Park) or reasonable and hard working but far from world class (Fletcher). Assuming that Fergie is a man of his word and there are no further signings a lot of these will play a lot of games.

Perhaps it is time for another club to come out on top, and for neutrals that's no bad thing, but Man Utd fans are football fans therefore will start getting shirty if it looks like their club is going to do worse than previously.

Like other pepole have pointed out, in the long run if the aforementioned 'green' players don't get a run then they will never mature and develop. But the only ones I am personally confident will prove good enough long-term are the Da Silva twins (it's impossible to tell with Macheda as he's played so little).
Ronnie Buzzard, Manchester

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