Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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#10876 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Sezam wrote:

Nema problema, samo sto na ovom forumu, gdje 90% trola i fura samo svoju furku, argumenti ne pomazu...ko da bacas bisere pred svinje...

Dakle, mogu argumenti, samo prvo objasni sta si mislio pod:

"pametna, strpljiva i uporna politička borba." cionista. Daj nam primjere te pametne, strpljive i politicke borbe, ako nije problem.
Vrlo jednostavno: što su u političkom smislu bili i značili 1948, a što su i što znače sada.
S druge strane, protivnik u statusu quo već više 65 godina, ako ne i u regresiji.
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#10877 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Hafis wrote:
Sezam wrote:

Nema problema, samo sto na ovom forumu, gdje 90% trola i fura samo svoju furku, argumenti ne pomazu...ko da bacas bisere pred svinje...

Dakle, mogu argumenti, samo prvo objasni sta si mislio pod:

"pametna, strpljiva i uporna politička borba." cionista. Daj nam primjere te pametne, strpljive i politicke borbe, ako nije problem.
Vrlo jednostavno: što su u političkom smislu bili i značili 1948, a što su i što znače sada.
S druge strane, protivnik u statusu quo već više 65 godina, ako ne i u regresiji.
Fala na objasnjenju, ali nije to poenta.

Hocu primjere pametne, strpljive i politicke borbe kojom su cionisti dobili Izrael, jer je @Lucifer to tvrdio.

Koliko se ja razumijem, holokoust ne spada ni u jedan od ta tri vida borbe, a bogami niti jedna od ovih teroristickih akcija militantnih jevreja:

August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.


November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the Jewish Agency were involved.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December 11, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 13,1947. Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

1947 -- 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land, and forced to live in refugee camps on Israel's borders. They have been denied the right to return to their homes. They have been refused compensation for their homes, orchards, farms and other property stolen from them by the Israeli government. After their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" totally obliterated (usually by bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475. Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.

January 1, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33 wounded.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this crime.

January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children..

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa (a 7 story block of apartments and shops) by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed responsibility for the incident.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were captured and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.
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#10878 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Kat wrote:
insomnia78 wrote:Mogu oni zvati kako hoce ARBiH je bila priznata u citavom svijetu kao takva
Sto sa Hamasom nije slucaj
134 drzave su priznale Palestinu, Hamas je legitimno izabran u Gazi, u aprilu su potpisali Unity Pact sa PLO, te sa tog stanovista imaju i legitimitet.
Amerika i Britanija su Mendelu i ANC deklarisali kao teroriste.
Mendela i ANC u tom trenutku i jesu bili teroristi
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#10879 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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pa cionisti su nakon 2. svjetskog rata izmislili terorizam pa ih niko tako ne zove.
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#10880 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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insomnia78 wrote:
Kat wrote:
insomnia78 wrote:Mogu oni zvati kako hoce ARBiH je bila priznata u citavom svijetu kao takva
Sto sa Hamasom nije slucaj
134 drzave su priznale Palestinu, Hamas je legitimno izabran u Gazi, u aprilu su potpisali Unity Pact sa PLO, te sa tog stanovista imaju i legitimitet.
Amerika i Britanija su Mendelu i ANC deklarisali kao teroriste.
Mendela i ANC u tom trenutku i jesu bili teroristi
Tema nije Mandela, ali on nije sudjen zbog "terorizma" nego zbog veleizdaje.
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#10881 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Sezam wrote: Nema problema, samo sto na ovom forumu, gdje 90% trola i fura samo svoju furku, argumenti ne pomazu...ko da bacas bisere pred svinje...

Dakle, mogu argumenti, samo prvo objasni sta si mislio pod:

"pametna, strpljiva i uporna politička borba." cionista. Daj nam primjere te pametne, strpljive i politicke borbe, ako nije problem.
Problem je.
Rekao si da nemam blage veze o čemu pišem, a sad tvrdiš da ti je potrebno pojašnjenje onog što sam napisao.
Znači da si prvi sud donio bez da ti je bilo jasno šta sam htio reći, a već si me okarakterisao kao jednog "od onih sto misli da sve zna, a takvi nista ne znaju".
Dakle, ili si ti trol čija je namjera da popljuje mišljenje drugog, a ne da normalno i racionalno diskutuje na forumu čija je to svrha, ili nemaš argumenata te si u oba slučaja sam sebe diskvalifikovao kao relevantnog sagovornika.
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#10882 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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L u c i f e r wrote:
Sasvim moguće. :)
Volio bih kad bi mi argumentima dokazao da griješim.
Vrlo rado mijenjam mišljenje kad se uvjerim da nisam u pravu.
I ja bih to volio vidjeti, cim kažeš nešto što je argumentovano i stabilno stoji, pojedinci kreću sa vrijeđanjem :)

Debata... %)
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#10883 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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L u c i f e r wrote:
Sezam wrote: Nema problema, samo sto na ovom forumu, gdje 90% trola i fura samo svoju furku, argumenti ne pomazu...ko da bacas bisere pred svinje...

Dakle, mogu argumenti, samo prvo objasni sta si mislio pod:

"pametna, strpljiva i uporna politička borba." cionista. Daj nam primjere te pametne, strpljive i politicke borbe, ako nije problem.
Problem je.
Rekao si da nemam blage veze o čemu pišem, a sad tvrdiš da ti je potrebno pojašnjenje onog što sam napisao.
Znači da si prvi sud donio bez da ti je bilo jasno šta sam htio reći, a već si me okarakterisao kao jednog "od onih sto misli da sve zna, a takvi nista ne znaju".
Dakle, ili si ti trol čija je namjera da popljuje mišljenje drugog, a ne da normalno i racionalno diskutuje na forumu čija je to svrha, ili nemaš argumenata te si u oba slučaja sam sebe diskvalifikovao kao relevantnog sagovornika.
Kasnis decko, vec sam objasnio sve par postova iznad ovog tvog, u odgovoru @Hafizu, koji je nasao za shodno da mi objasni umjesto tebe. Procitaj to, pa odgovori. Kod mene ne pale te diskvalifikacije sugovornika zasnovane ni na cemu :zzzz:
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#10884 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Sezam wrote:
L u c i f e r wrote:
Sezam wrote: Nema problema, samo sto na ovom forumu, gdje 90% trola i fura samo svoju furku, argumenti ne pomazu...ko da bacas bisere pred svinje...

Dakle, mogu argumenti, samo prvo objasni sta si mislio pod:

"pametna, strpljiva i uporna politička borba." cionista. Daj nam primjere te pametne, strpljive i politicke borbe, ako nije problem.
Problem je.
Rekao si da nemam blage veze o čemu pišem, a sad tvrdiš da ti je potrebno pojašnjenje onog što sam napisao.
Znači da si prvi sud donio bez da ti je bilo jasno šta sam htio reći, a već si me okarakterisao kao jednog "od onih sto misli da sve zna, a takvi nista ne znaju".
Dakle, ili si ti trol čija je namjera da popljuje mišljenje drugog, a ne da normalno i racionalno diskutuje na forumu čija je to svrha, ili nemaš argumenata te si u oba slučaja sam sebe diskvalifikovao kao relevantnog sagovornika.
Kasnis decko, vec sam objasnio sve par postova iznad ovog tvog, u odgovoru @Hafizu, koji je nasao za shodno da mi objasni umjesto tebe. Procitaj to, pa odgovori. Kod mene ne pale te diskvalifikacije sugovornika zasnovane ni na cemu :zzzz:
Hvala na tom dečko, prvo obzirom na moje godine, a drugo i naročito zato što nisi ljubitelj diskvalifikacija sagovornika... :D
Interesantno, kako jedan takav neljubitelj diskvalifikacija može drugog forumaša sa kojim nikad nije ni riječ razmijenio okarakterisati kao osobu koja "nema blage veze o čemu piše" i kao jednog jednog "od onih sto misli da sve zna, a takvi nista ne znaju".
No, sve što čovjek radi, govori i piše, najviše govori o njemu samom. :)
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#10885 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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U Gazi rođeno 4.500 beba u posljednjih mjesec dana

http://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/u-gaz ... /140809097
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#10886 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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#10887 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Wikileaks released documents on Friday that revealed that Ban wrote a letter to the UN Security Council asking its members not to take recommendations by the UN Board of Inquiry about Israeli bombings in Gaza into account.

http://telesurtv.net/english/news/Wikil ... -0020.html
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#10888 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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L u c i f e r wrote:
Sezam wrote:
L u c i f e r wrote:
Problem je.
Rekao si da nemam blage veze o čemu pišem, a sad tvrdiš da ti je potrebno pojašnjenje onog što sam napisao.
Znači da si prvi sud donio bez da ti je bilo jasno šta sam htio reći, a već si me okarakterisao kao jednog "od onih sto misli da sve zna, a takvi nista ne znaju".
Dakle, ili si ti trol čija je namjera da popljuje mišljenje drugog, a ne da normalno i racionalno diskutuje na forumu čija je to svrha, ili nemaš argumenata te si u oba slučaja sam sebe diskvalifikovao kao relevantnog sagovornika.
Kasnis decko, vec sam objasnio sve par postova iznad ovog tvog, u odgovoru @Hafizu, koji je nasao za shodno da mi objasni umjesto tebe. Procitaj to, pa odgovori. Kod mene ne pale te diskvalifikacije sugovornika zasnovane ni na cemu :zzzz:
Hvala na tom dečko, prvo obzirom na moje godine, a drugo i naročito zato što nisi ljubitelj diskvalifikacija sagovornika... :D
Interesantno, kako jedan takav neljubitelj diskvalifikacija može drugog forumaša sa kojim nikad nije ni riječ razmijenio okarakterisati kao osobu koja "nema blage veze o čemu piše" i kao jednog jednog "od onih sto misli da sve zna, a takvi nista ne znaju".
No, sve što čovjek radi, govori i piše, najviše govori o njemu samom. :)
U pravu si, evo ti recimo, vec tri posta mlatis praznu slamu, izbjegavajuci da mi das primjere "pametne, strpljive i uporne politicke borbe" kojom su cionisti dobili Izrael, kao sto si tvrdio. Dok to ne uradis, i dalje smatram da nemas pojma o cemu pises.
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#10889 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Kazu "mudraci" na ovom forumu, Hamas je problem, sto pucaju , sto ne traze mirno rijesenje... :zzzz:

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/artic ... n-for-gaza
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#10890 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Sezam wrote:Kazu "mudraci" na ovom forumu, Hamas je problem, sto pucaju , sto ne traze mirno rijesenje... :zzzz:

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/artic ... n-for-gaza
Ljudi pozivaju otvoreno na genocid,istrebljenje jednog naroda, i to parlamentarci koji imaju jasan plan?! I sad ovi trebaju da odloze ono malo oruzja kojeg imaju,kako bi ih lakse pobili i protjerali ,a sve to zbog stvaranja velikog izraela. Ko je ovdje lud?????????
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#10891 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Kat wrote:
insomnia78 wrote:Mogu oni zvati kako hoce ARBiH je bila priznata u citavom svijetu kao takva
Sto sa Hamasom nije slucaj
134 drzave su priznale Palestinu, Hamas je legitimno izabran u Gazi, u aprilu su potpisali Unity Pact sa PLO, te sa tog stanovista imaju i legitimitet.
Amerika i Britanija su Mendelu i ANC deklarisali kao teroriste.
Etikete se mjenjaju samo po potrebi,svijet je navikao na takvu praksu.

I ARBIH je svojevremeno veoma lahko mogla biti proglašena terorističkom organizacijom da se Alija rahmetli oglušio na naredbu Vašingtona o prekidu pohoda prema BL i oslobađanju čitave teritorije BIH od okupatora i paravojnih snaga,ali možda je bolje što i nismo doživjeli takav scenarijo od licimjernog zapada,ko zna kavo bi se tada odvijala situacija.
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#10892 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Sezam wrote: U pravu si, evo ti recimo, vec tri posta mlatis praznu slamu, izbjegavajuci da mi das primjere "pametne, strpljive i uporne politicke borbe" kojom su cionisti dobili Izrael, kao sto si tvrdio. Dok to ne uradis, i dalje smatram da nemas pojma o cemu pises.
Super, smatraj i dalje, valjda ću to nekako uspjeti preživiti. :roll:
Kad se naučiš civilizovano diskutovati, bez uvreda i nipodoštavanja sagovornika, možda i popričamo.

Podsjećam: ja sam iznio svoje mišljenje, ti si ga popljuvao, na moj upit o argumentima zbog kojih ga pljuješ, ti od mene tražiš da ti dajem nekakve primjere.
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#10893 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Premijer Turske, Redžeb Tajib Erdoan je u izjavi za agenciju Anadolija kazao: "Spremni smo pružiti liječenje svim ranjenim Palestincima, bilo da je u pitanju liječenje od stresa ili uslijed ranjavanja. U stanju smo sve ih prihvatiti i broj nas ne zanima. Ukoliko trud koje sada ulažemo da ih prebacimo u Tursku rezultira uspjehom, odmah će započeti njihov smještaj u bolnicama Ankare i Istanbula.

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#10894 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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L u c i f e r wrote:
Sezam wrote: U pravu si, evo ti recimo, vec tri posta mlatis praznu slamu, izbjegavajuci da mi das primjere "pametne, strpljive i uporne politicke borbe" kojom su cionisti dobili Izrael, kao sto si tvrdio. Dok to ne uradis, i dalje smatram da nemas pojma o cemu pises.
Super, smatraj i dalje, valjda ću to nekako uspjeti preživiti. :roll:
Kad se naučiš civilizovano diskutovati, bez uvreda i nipodoštavanja sagovornika, možda i popričamo.

Podsjećam: ja sam iznio svoje mišljenje, ti si ga popljuvao, na moj upit o argumentima zbog kojih ga pljuješ, ti od mene tražiš da ti dajem nekakve primjere.
Đes profesore, nisam te prepozno... Image
Iz mog odgovora @hafizu, koji se nalazi na prethodnoj stranici, a na koji sam te uputio prije par postova, a koji ti zbog manjka

a) inteligencije
b) bilo kakvog smislenog odgovora

...uporno izbjegavas, tako da meni nije tesko ponoviti argumente o tvojoj nicim potkrijepljenoj teoriji da su cionisti dosli do Izraela "pametnom, strpljivom i politickom borbom".

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Hocu primjere pametne, strpljive i politicke borbe kojom su cionisti dobili Izrael, jer je @Lucifer to tvrdio.

Koliko se ja razumijem, holokoust ne spada ni u jedan od ta tri vida borbe, a bogami niti jedna od ovih teroristickih akcija militantnih jevreja:

August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.


November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the Jewish Agency were involved.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December 11, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 13,1947. Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

1947 -- 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land, and forced to live in refugee camps on Israel's borders. They have been denied the right to return to their homes. They have been refused compensation for their homes, orchards, farms and other property stolen from them by the Israeli government. After their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" totally obliterated (usually by bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475. Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.

January 1, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33 wounded.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this crime.

January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children..

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa (a 7 story block of apartments and shops) by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed responsibility for the incident.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were captured and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.
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#10895 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Sezam wrote:
L u c i f e r wrote:
Sezam wrote: U pravu si, evo ti recimo, vec tri posta mlatis praznu slamu, izbjegavajuci da mi das primjere "pametne, strpljive i uporne politicke borbe" kojom su cionisti dobili Izrael, kao sto si tvrdio. Dok to ne uradis, i dalje smatram da nemas pojma o cemu pises.
Super, smatraj i dalje, valjda ću to nekako uspjeti preživiti. :roll:
Kad se naučiš civilizovano diskutovati, bez uvreda i nipodoštavanja sagovornika, možda i popričamo.

Podsjećam: ja sam iznio svoje mišljenje, ti si ga popljuvao, na moj upit o argumentima zbog kojih ga pljuješ, ti od mene tražiš da ti dajem nekakve primjere.
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Iz mog odgovora @hafizu, koji se nalazi na prethodnoj stranici, a na koji sam te uputio prije par postova, a koji ti zbog manjka

a) inteligencije
b) bilo kakvog smislenog odgovora

...uporno izbjegavas, tako da meni nije tesko ponoviti argumente o tvojoj nicim potkrijepljenoj teoriji da su cionisti dosli do Izraela "pametnom, strpljivom i politickom borbom".

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Hocu primjere pametne, strpljive i politicke borbe kojom su cionisti dobili Izrael, jer je @Lucifer to tvrdio.

Koliko se ja razumijem, holokoust ne spada ni u jedan od ta tri vida borbe, a bogami niti jedna od ovih teroristickih akcija militantnih jevreja:

August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.


November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the Jewish Agency were involved.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December 11, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 13,1947. Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

1947 -- 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land, and forced to live in refugee camps on Israel's borders. They have been denied the right to return to their homes. They have been refused compensation for their homes, orchards, farms and other property stolen from them by the Israeli government. After their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" totally obliterated (usually by bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475. Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.

January 1, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33 wounded.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this crime.

January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children..

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa (a 7 story block of apartments and shops) by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed responsibility for the incident.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were captured and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.
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#10896 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Znao sam da te argumenti uopste ne interesuju.
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#10897 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Sezam wrote:Znao sam da te argumenti uopste ne interesuju.
:lol: :evil:
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#10898 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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rolamItrolam wrote:
L u c i f e r wrote:
Sezam wrote:Znao sam da te argumenti uopste ne interesuju.
:lol: :evil:

Jesi li ti Hebrej?
Možda, zašto pitaš novoregistovani korisniče sa nikom @rolamitrolam? :)
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#10899 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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Besplatna forumaška lekcija broj 1: diskutuje se o temama, a ne o forumašima, to je nepristojno i offtopic. :)
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#10900 Re: Izrael je opet pocinio zlocin!

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rolamItrolam wrote:
L u c i f e r wrote:Besplatna forumaška lekcija broj 1: diskutuje se o temama, a ne o forumašima, to je nepristojno i offtopic. :)
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