English Premier League

[hidrant]

Posto su mi zakljucali temu, ovdje cu objaviti vijest.

Prvo pojacanje Arsenala za ovu sezonu je Thomas Vermaelen koji je stigao za 12mil eura.

Moze igrati kao centralni odbrambeni ili kao lijevi bek.

Mislim da smo ga puno platili, ali nejse.
Treba sad dovesti kvalitetnog zadnjeg veznog i to bi bilo to.

[bato99]

Posto su mi zakljucali temu, ovdje cu objaviti vijest.

Prvo pojacanje Arsenala za ovu sezonu je Thomas Vermaelen koji je stigao za 12mil eura.

Moze igrati kao centralni odbrambeni ili kao lijevi bek.

Mislim da smo ga puno platili, ali nejse.
Treba sad dovesti kvalitetnog zadnjeg veznog i to bi bilo to.

miševi dovode miševe

[hidrant]

miševi dovode miševe

Imate vi vase Fabije Aurelije,Arbeloe, Dosene , Kuyte i slicne velemajstore.

[bato99]

sljedeće godine----------FC LIVERPOOL------------osvaja prvenstvo

[hidrant]

sljedeće godine----------FC LIVERPOOL------------osvaja prvenstvo

Looserpool ne moze uzeti titulu kad bi im dali 15 bodova pride.
Pomiri se sa cinjenicom da su oni gubitnicka ekipa sa gubitnickim trenerom.

[bato99]

DV ARSENAL (čitaj dječiji vrtić) će da osvoji ligu tek kad budu sišli sa hape i cuce

[hidrant]

DV ARSENAL (čitaj dječiji vrtić) će da osvoji ligu tek kad budu sišli sa hape i cuce

Looserpool nece nikad.
20 god.

[bato99]

DV ARSENAL (čitaj dječiji vrtić) će da osvoji ligu tek kad budu sišli sa hape i cuce

Looserpool nece nikad.
20 god.

toliko ih imaju da ih DV ARSENAL BEBE neće nikad stići

[hidrant]

20 godina.
Ni najstariji se ne sjecaju vise tih titula.
Doduse, kako ce i osvojiti kad imaju onakvog trenera i igrace tipa Skrtel,Kuyt,Lucas i sl.

20 god.

[bato99]

20 godina.
Ni najstariji se ne sjecaju vise tih titula.
Doduse, kako ce i osvojiti kad imaju onakvog trenera i igrace tipa Skrtel,Kuyt,Lucas i sl.

20 god.

najveći engleski klub svih vremena-------FC LIVERPOOL---------

[hidrant]

najveći engleski klub svih vremena-------FC LIVERPOOL---------

Utd. ima isto titula prvaka.

Nemoj mi sad one titule LP-a.
To je bezveze takmicenje i ono se ne pika.

[bato99]

najveći engleski klub svih vremena-------FC LIVERPOOL---------

Utd. ima isto titula prvaka.

Nemoj mi sad one titule LP-a.
To je bezveze takmicenje i ono se ne pika.

samobanuj se sa foruma....i vrati cucu u usta

[hidrant]

Pa ja.
Lahko se vaditi na neke tamo bezvezne titule.
To isto da se neka ekipa pode hvaliti kupovima sajamskih gradova, ili neka repka prvenstvima Okeanije ili Azije.

[bato99]

Pa ja.
Lahko se vaditi na neke tamo bezvezne titule.
To isto da se neka ekipa pode hvaliti kupovima sajamskih gradova, ili neka repka prvenstvima Okeanije ili Azije.

a sa čime se DV ARSENAL može pohvaliti....osim pelenama

[hidrant]

Makar se sjecamo zadnje titule, za razliku od Looserpoola.

20 god.

Mene bi bilo stid.

[bato99]

Makar se sjecamo zadnje titule, za razliku od Looserpoola.

20 god.

Mene bi bilo stid.

miševi kad nešto osvoje

[Art-Vandaley]

hahaha bato botox navijaci looserpoola se javio hahahahaha pa kako te nije stid taj "najveci" engleski klub nema jos titulu Premiershipa

[ja.neron]

The Good And Bad Of Rafa`s Five Years...

Rafa Benitez arrived at Anfield five years ago this week, and in that time plenty has occured. So what's gone well, and what badly? Nick Miller looks at the good and bad of Rafa's half decade...

THE GOOD

Signing Fernando Torres, Xabi Alonso and Pepe Reina
Quite good players, these three. Would any of them be in the Premier League if it wasn't for Benitez? Real Madrid were Alonso's other main suitor in 2004 (still are), Torres might still be at Atletico had Liverpool not come up with the cash, while Reina would most likely have moved back to Barcelona. In these three - along with Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher - Benitez has created a spine around which Liverpool's success is based, and if he does something daft (like selling Alonso) this summer, their continued title challenge will almost certainly falter.

Keeping - then getting the best from - Steven Gerrard
When Benitez arrived, two of Liverpool's best players were about to jump ship. While Michael Owen left, Gerrard was persuaded to stay (just a couple of weeks after Benitez's appointment too) despite offers of riches and instant success from Chelsea. It happened again the following summer, and while Gerrard claimed it was an emotional decision, Benitez would no doubt have been a major factor.

Keeping him was only a half-success though. After a couple of years shoving him out to the right and occasionally the left of midfield, Benitez realised that his true potential could only be brought out in his current 'free' role. While it might be a stretch to say Benitez alone has converted him from midfielder to support striker, he must be praised for allowing Gerrard to roam free.

Istanbul
The story goes that, as the entire Liverpool side and staff were cavorting around the Ataturk Stadium pitch, Benitez took Jamie Carragher aside and offered some constructive criticism about his positioning during the game.

It's this sort of cold attention to detail that was the centre of Liverpool's comeback. Amid the chaos of half-time, and after setting out a formation that included 12 players, Benitez had the nous and awareness to realise that he had to introduce Dietmar Hamman in order to protect his ravaged defence and midfield. Without this Liverpool probably wouldn't have scored those three goals in six minutes, and certainly wouldn't have prevented Milan from adding more.

Reigniting a rivalry
In this generation of football, there can be few things more flattering than Alex Ferguson recognising you are a threat. The difference between Ferguson's treatment of Benitez and Arsene Wenger at the tail end of last season was telling. While Wenger received the equivalent of a ruffle of the hair and a 'Bless 'em, they play nice football', Benitez was the subject of a cynical and co-ordinated attack from Ferguson and Sam Allardyce, designed to destabilise their season.


Much has been made (on these pages and others) of the 'facts rant', and while it's clear that Ferguson got under Benitez's skin, it's difficult to prove either way that it had a significant impact on Liverpool's season. Sure, they went on a poor run shortly after, but if Benitez had truly been psychologically battered and it had sabotaged Liverpool's season, how do you explain the 4-1 win at Old Trafford?


The improvement in Liverpool's league position since 2004 has been gradual, but last season they were genuine, serious and sustained title contenders for the first time since they last won the thing in 1990. With the right signings, it could be even closer next time.

Surviving the power struggle
18 months ago it looked like Benitez's time at Anfield was done. Disagreements with the American owners and Rick Parry over control (it always is) meant that he was being pushed out, with Tom Hicks and George Gillett even lining up Jurgen Klinsmann to replace him.

How much should be made of the apparent power struggle between Parry and Benitez is unclear, and who actually bought Robbie Keane, but if there really was a row, there's only one winner.

The extent of his victory is perfectly illustrated by the long negotiations over his new contract last season. He rejected every version of the deal that didn't please him, safe in the knowledge that he could ask for a monkey butler and strippers and the club would have to acquiesce, such was and is his power. He now has control over Liverpool's transfer policy, and is shaping the club into his own image.

THE BAD

Blind spots
Strange how some managers have blind spots in certain positions. With Ferguson for a long time it was goalkeepers, for Arsene Wenger centre-backs, but for Benitez it seems to be full-backs. Josemi, Jan Kronkamp, Antonio Barragan, Philip Degen, Andrea Dossena, Alvaro Arbeloa and Fabio Aurelio have been purchased, with arguably only the latter two being successes. And now it looks like he is about to pay a huge fee for the good, but not great, Glen Johnson.

The '7/10' obsession
The fundamental element of Benitez's managerial philosophy is control. He's obsessed with it. One imagines the sort of games that we punters enjoy (the break-neck seven-goalers, the games we remember) are the ones that Benitez hates, because there's no control. They're unpredictable. Anything could happen.

This might explain his early fascination with steady, predictable players that would play quite well and run around a lot every week, but rarely created anything spectacular. It's why he persisted with Dirk Kuyt and eventually found a place for him, as well as Momo Sissoko, Andrei Voronin, Alvaro Arbeloa, Bolo Zenden, Albert Riera, even Craig Bellamy and to an extent Yossi Benayoun.

With the signing of Torres one suspected he finally realised that a mixture of flair and graft is the way to go, which is why their reluctance to chase a player like David Silva is so frustrating.


Rotation
In his early days, you suspected that Benitez made changes to his side almost out of spite, being deliberately obtuse. He famously didn't keep the same side for 99 consecutive games (even that he made no changes for that 100th match suggests stubbornness), and such changes were as much about him not knowing his best side as keeping things fresh. Now, most people could probably name his first-choice eleven, but back then you might as well have picked names from a hat. It's difficult to work out whether the recent success is simply down to keeping a settled side, or the settled side is simply because he has better players now, and can thus more readily trust them.

Questionable transfer record
For every Torres there's a Voronin, for every a Skrtel a Kronkamp, for every Alonso a Nunez. In five years Benitez has signed 45 players, a massive number that smacks of at best trial and error, at worst guessing. Obviously he was unsure in his early days about which players would work in England, but even last summer there were some stinkers.

Philip Degen has yet to make a league appearance (although much of that was down to injury), Andrea Dossena cost Ł7million, and then there was Robbie Keane. For a manager who is operating on a budget (as he never fails to remind us) much lower than his immediate rivals, he must minimise these sort of judgement errors.

Over-analysis
After Liverpool beat Real Madrid last summer, one of the Spanish papers wrote that you should never play chess with a grandmaster. It's true, and it might be one of the reasons that Liverpool had such a good record in 'big' games last season, while they dropped points against the lesser lights of the Premier League.

Clever thinking and effective tactics are required against Manchester United and Chelsea, but perhaps less so against Stoke and Hull. One suspects against those from the nether regions of the Premier League, Alex Ferguson offers little by way of tactical thinking - he simply says 'You're better than them, go and win it'. Benitez rarely lets his players loose, or goes for all-out attack in the same way that Jose Mourinho used to at Chelsea. If they were losing 1-0 after an hour, Mourinho would chuck on two more strikers and play four up front. Benitez tends to stick with the plan.

He has a tendency to over-think, to try and work out how to beat every team, when he could merely trust that his troops are better than the opposition, which they frequently are. Sometimes football really is that simple, and it might be a lesson that Benitez would do well to learn.


Nick Miller http://www.football365.com/story/0,1703 ... 40,00.html

[hidrant]

BREAKING NEWS: Fiorentina: We Are In Negotiations To Sell Felipe Melo To Arsenal
Fiorentina have made an official announcement on the rumours surrounding Felipe Melo...

Arsenal are the only club to have made a bid for Fiorentina star Felipe Melo, the Italian club have announced. The Viola appear prepared to sell the Brazilian star with Emmanuel Eboue moving the other way as part of the deal.

Sky Sport Italia claimed earlier today that Juventus had reached an agreement with Felipe Melo’s agents, and that the Bianconeri would meet with Fiorentina officials on Tuesday in order to conclude a transfer fee.

However, Fiorentina have now posted an official announcement on their website, in which transfer chief Pantaleo Corvino sets the record straight.

Corvino claims that Arsenal are the only club to have tabled an offer for Felipe Melo, and suggests that Fiorentina are prepared to sell if Emmanuel Eboue is included as part of the exchange.

“The director [Corvino] points out that Arsenal FC are the only club that has come close to [Felipe Melo’s] release clause.

“Fiorentina, in turn, has proposed that the clubs reduce the amount of this clause by entering into negotiations the right back Eboue.”


Evo ga!
Ovo ako prode, sampionska generacija ce biti stvorena.
Sada odgovorno mozemo da tvrdimo da cete sljedece sezone moci gledati savrsenstvo fudbalske igre na Emiratima
i na svim stadionima gdje Arsenal bude gostovao.

[mrtva kokoš]

Evo ga!
Ovo ako prode, sampionska generacija ce biti stvorena.
Sada odgovorno mozemo da tvrdimo da cete sljedece sezone moci gledati savrsenstvo fudbalske igre na Emiratima
i na svim stadionima gdje Arsenal bude gostovao.

sjooo hidrant ti kao da radis u Arsenalu..

[hidrant]

sjooo hidrant ti kao da radis u Arsenalu..

Ovaj trenutak smo dugo cekali.

It's coming home
It's coming home
It's coming
Football's coming home

[mrtva kokoš]

samo da ti predocim na sta sam naletio,izgleda nece biti Arsenalu tako lahko dovesti...

Svojim odličnim partijama na Kupu konfederacije Fiorentinin vezista dobio je pozornost nekih evropskih timova, tu uz londonski Arsenal spada i Juventus.

"Felipe je zaljubljen u Firencu i njene fanove, ali očito da interer jednog prestižnog kluba kao što je Juventus, koji se bori za Scudetto i Ligu Prvaka, njega ne može ostaviti ravnodušnim", priznaje Umberto Fusco, menadžer Brazilca.

"Ukoliko bi čelnici Bianconera postigli sporazum sa Fiorentinom, Melo bi bio sretan".

[Cyrax]

sjooo hidrant ti kao da radis u Arsenalu..

Ovaj trenutak smo dugo cekali.

It's coming home
It's coming home
It's coming
Football's coming home

Nece Arsenal ni Carling cup da osvoji iduce sezone .

[Cyrax]

samo da ti predocim na sta sam naletio,izgleda nece biti Arsenalu tako lahko dovesti...

Svojim odličnim partijama na Kupu konfederacije Fiorentinin vezista dobio je pozornost nekih evropskih timova, tu uz londonski Arsenal spada i Juventus.

"Felipe je zaljubljen u Firencu i njene fanove, ali očito da interer jednog prestižnog kluba kao što je Juventus, koji se bori za Scudetto i Ligu Prvaka, njega ne može ostaviti ravnodušnim", priznaje Umberto Fusco, menadžer Brazilca.

"Ukoliko bi čelnici Bianconera postigli sporazum sa Fiorentinom, Melo bi bio sretan".

Da hoce u Juve doci...

[hidrant]

Zasto bi covjek propustio priliku da igra u najjacoj ligi na svijetu?
Jedini razlog moze biti strah.
Tako se i Dzeko prepao i propustio veliku priliku.

@Cyrax

Moras jos malo da vjezbas provociranje.
U redu je to za obicne forumase, ali The Master je izazov.