#106901 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 22/08/2022 15:22
Haja saban je zensko fakat pavlovna kako vec
Objavljene su slike trenutaka gađanja prve ruske mete koju je uništio Bayraktar TB2 SİHA, koju je Ukrajini poklonila Litvanija
Ako je ovo istina, ovo je realno, za intenzitet sukoba, ruzno receno, ali poprilicno malo. To je nekih 50ak dnevno, sto je za velicinu Ukrajine stvarno malo.
Ako su ove 40 mm granate iz tweeta onda su sa kumulativnim punjenjem. Probijaju dva inča čelika. Barem po specifikaciji.toska wrote: ↑22/08/2022 15:26 Da li su mine bačene sa drona na ovaj transporter kumulativne?
ako jesu onda nije moguće znati kakva je šteta napravljena u untrašnjosti, pa i klasičini RPG projektil ne pravi nikakavu štetu gledajući sa vana izuzev male rupe u oklopu od najviše par cm.
s vana sve ok, unutra sprženo.
samo vozilo BTR-82 je namjenjeno prvenstveno transportu trupa i kao takav nema neki oklop:
Wiki:
"Oklopna zaštita je tipično ruska, s prednje strane obezbeđuje zaštitu od dejstva teških mitraljeza 12,7 mm s udaljenosti od 100 metara, te fragmenata artiljerijskih projektila. Gornji dio oklopa tijela osigurava zaštitu od pancirnog zrna 7,62 mm na udaljenosti od 100 metara, "
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Zilože, nisam tebe etiketirao nego dijasporusa sa kojim sam još juče započeo raspravu o gornjem video klipu. Ti si se prepoznao u drugom dijelu mog odgovora o napuštenom vozilu, trebao sam to naglasiti navodnicima a nisam, pa mi se nije problem tebi izvinuti, a da sad neduljimo što ikako je vozilo napušteno ionako su samo pretpostavke. Lpzilog wrote: ↑22/08/2022 14:21Kada si vec "omirisao barut", da te pitam, jesmo li mi unistavali napustene oklope u sivoj zoni, ili smo se, po svaku cijenu, trudili da ih se docepamo?Zumbul2 wrote: ↑22/08/2022 14:07 Drug_profi,
Ne raspravljaj sa likovima koji se jave da kontriraju, vojno znanje im je 0, barut omirisali nisu a doprinos na temi isto 0. Čak i ne odgledaju do kraja... To što je vozilo privremeno napušteno, posada se razbježala ne znači da ga ne treba zapaliti, jer je u sivoj zoni i vratiće se rusi po njega po noći.
Inace, ne leti pred rudu, sa etiketiranjem...![]()

Wiki:drug_profi wrote: ↑22/08/2022 15:38Ako su ove 40 mm granate iz tweeta onda su sa kumulativnim punjenjem. Probijaju dva inča čelika. Barem po specifikaciji.toska wrote: ↑22/08/2022 15:26 Da li su mine bačene sa drona na ovaj transporter kumulativne?
ako jesu onda nije moguće znati kakva je šteta napravljena u untrašnjosti, pa i klasičini RPG projektil ne pravi nikakavu štetu gledajući sa vana izuzev male rupe u oklopu od najviše par cm.
s vana sve ok, unutra sprženo.
samo vozilo BTR-82 je namjenjeno prvenstveno transportu trupa i kao takav nema neki oklop:
Wiki:
"Oklopna zaštita je tipično ruska, s prednje strane obezbeđuje zaštitu od dejstva teških mitraljeza 12,7 mm s udaljenosti od 100 metara, te fragmenata artiljerijskih projektila. Gornji dio oklopa tijela osigurava zaštitu od pancirnog zrna 7,62 mm na udaljenosti od 100 metara, "
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Estonian Major General Veiko-Veello Palm believes that the approaching autumn means that both sides have eight to ten weeks left to organize large-scale attacks. According to Palm, tactically, Russian forces continue to conduct an offensive, so it cannot be said that they were decisively stopped somewhere.
"The Armed Forces of Ukraine do not conduct major offensive operations. The time window for large offensives is relatively short - eight to ten weeks. From mid-October it will be very difficult to organize an offensive", Palm said.
He noted that the Russian army, as before, failed to achieve significant success: they could not break through anywhere. "In many places Ukrainian information operation along with counterattacks worked very well, and it seems to me that the Russian leadership panicked," he said.
According to Palm, the course of the war showed that the mass offensive used by Russian troops is a very bad tactic.
"The Russian army has its own problems, they do not have the means to decisively change the situation, they have not achieved a decisive advantage anywhere. Ukraine resisted well with western weapons and training. "They're attacking well in the right places. Russian forces cannot maintain pace and they will suffer high combat losses," he said.
According to Palm, the biggest problem for Russian troops is the loss of specialists on the battlefield.
"The biggest problem is not even that they lose infantry soldiers every day - they do not count them - but they lose a lot of specialists - paratroopers, military special forces, pilots, helicopters, artillerymen, signalmen. It is very difficult to replenish these losses," the general said.
Regarding the successful attacks of the Ukrainian army in Crimea, Palm said that this success still cannot be called the beginning of the liberation of Crimea.
"Crimea is still controlled by Russia, but the Ukrainian military is doing a very good job. It is very difficult to imagine that Ukraine will be able to return Crimea militarily in the near future. Currently, neither side has such a weapon, such a means, such a method that would contribute to the onset of a tipping point," Palm said.
Turci su ovdje možda "ubačeni element"?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62553629The town of Volosovo, near St Petersburg, is booming. Not the economy - it's the loudspeakers. Like many towns in Russia, Volosovo has them installed on tall poles that line the main street. Traditionally they are used for playing patriotic music during national holidays. Now, though, they have a different purpose.
"Two volunteer artillery battalions are being formed. We invite men from 18 to 60 years old to join," the speakers blare out.
It's a message that's being repeated up and down this vast country. On social media, on TV and on billboards, men are being urged to sign short-term contracts with the military to fight in Ukraine.
In order to attract fresh recruits, the authorities are offering volunteers huge sums of money, plots of land and even premium places for their children in Russian schools. Recruiters have even been visiting Russian prisons to sign up inmates, promising them freedom and money.
Investigative journalist Roman Dobrokhotov says the recruitment drive is a sign of desperation on the part of the authorities: "This is not the type of soldiers needed for a victorious war. The Kremlin still hopes that quantity can win over quality. That they can get these hundreds of thousands of desperate people with their debts and just throw them into the conflict zone."
Despite the eyewatering amounts of cash on offer to potential recruits - up to £4,700 ($5,700) a month in some cases - Roman says the reality is different."People don't actually see this money," he says. "They are returning [from Ukraine] now and telling us journalists about how they were deceived. This is also influencing the situation, this lack of trust in our government, so I don't think this strategy will be successful."