#103301 Re: Ukrajina
Posted: 01/08/2022 18:16
Jako dobar opis ukrajinske strategije...
E sada da li vjerovati Ruskom ministarstvu odbrane? Onom koje je 23.02 objavljivalo da Rusija nema planove o invaziji na Ukrajinu.
Kad ih citas vec su u Moldaviji. Odesa sama pada.Što se tiče Odese i Nikolajeva, kako je istakao Podberezkin, ruske snage ih neće napadati, jer ih je lakše zaobići sa severa, gde je zajednička granica sa Pridnjestrovljem.
"To je očigledno, to nije nikakva tajna", dodao je Podberezkin.
Pored toga, istakao je ekspert, na nikolajevskom i harkovskom pravcu ima manje profesionalnih ukrajinskih vojnika, zato će tamo, nakon zauzimanja Slavjanska i Kramatorska situacija ići puno brže.
Pa iza, Sabre mlazni avioni, pa oni nešti Thunder.... ne znam tacno mlazni avioni, onako odokativno 300-400 komada sve skupa, pa oni s propelerima lovci nakon 2ww isto, pa tenkova bruku,ima na internetu podaci o tome, haubica bruku, cak do prije rata ovog naseg u sastavu JNA bile te americke haubice, ima na netu detaljnije, pa Sikorsky helikopteri...

http://www.ewb.rs/newsone.aspx?id=573In 1951, following the turning point in Yugoslav defence policy brought on by the Tito-Stalin dispute, a Military Assistance Pact was signed between Yugoslav President Marshal Tito and the US ambassador in Belgrade. Over the next 7 years, the Yugoslav People's Army received equipment, trainings and overall support to its qualitative and quantitative growth from its US counterpart to the total sum of some $800 mln at THAT time - 600 aircraft, 1000 tanks, 20k assorted vehicles and thousands od small arms and ammo, plus manufacturing licences.
Main JNA component, the infantry, received during MDAP mostly fire-support weaponry: over 5.000 Bazookas 60 and 88,9mm, 1.120 recoilless guns 57 and 75mm, 2.500 Browning M2 cal 12,7mm anti-aircraft machine-guns and 34.000 M1 Thompson cal 11,43 mm sub-machine-guns. Yugoslav amoured units received two types of tanks M-4 Sherman (599), M-47 Patton (319). Three types of self-propelled guns: M-7 Priest, M-18 Hellcat, M-36 Jackson (715), a total of 565 armoured cars M3A1 Scoutcar and M-8 Greyhound. Immediately since the MAP was signed, a huge quantities of artillery started reached Yugoslavia. Total of 760 weapons in the 105,155 and 203mm calibre were delivered. Yugoslav Army engineers received 44 different items that covered the 119 different types of equipment: bridges, bulldozers, greyders, rollers, boats, workshops...
Fakat nemam pojma, ali ne mogu da vjerujem da je JNA u bilo kom momentu imala 600+ aviona...Čitalac wrote: ↑01/08/2022 18:56http://www.ewb.rs/newsone.aspx?id=573In 1951, following the turning point in Yugoslav defence policy brought on by the Tito-Stalin dispute, a Military Assistance Pact was signed between Yugoslav President Marshal Tito and the US ambassador in Belgrade. Over the next 7 years, the Yugoslav People's Army received equipment, trainings and overall support to its qualitative and quantitative growth from its US counterpart to the total sum of some $800 mln at THAT time - 600 aircraft, 1000 tanks, 20k assorted vehicles and thousands od small arms and ammo, plus manufacturing licences.
Main JNA component, the infantry, received during MDAP mostly fire-support weaponry: over 5.000 Bazookas 60 and 88,9mm, 1.120 recoilless guns 57 and 75mm, 2.500 Browning M2 cal 12,7mm anti-aircraft machine-guns and 34.000 M1 Thompson cal 11,43 mm sub-machine-guns. Yugoslav amoured units received two types of tanks M-4 Sherman (599), M-47 Patton (319). Three types of self-propelled guns: M-7 Priest, M-18 Hellcat, M-36 Jackson (715), a total of 565 armoured cars M3A1 Scoutcar and M-8 Greyhound. Immediately since the MAP was signed, a huge quantities of artillery started reached Yugoslavia. Total of 760 weapons in the 105,155 and 203mm calibre were delivered. Yugoslav Army engineers received 44 different items that covered the 119 different types of equipment: bridges, bulldozers, greyders, rollers, boats, workshops...
ooo jarane...ovo je baš za nekog 18:30 termina, uz kaku sapunicu pustit ko reklamni klip
Skontaj ga kako zmiri kada puca, isto curica kakva (uz duzno postovanje prema zenama ratnicama)...JoseMujica wrote: ↑01/08/2022 19:16ooo jarane...ovo je baš za nekog 18:30 termina, uz kaku sapunicu pustit ko reklamni klipSpoilerShow![]()
70+ godina staro oruzje, a Juga je svakako zeljela da ima jaku sopstvenu avio industriju (kao sto i jeste imala jedno vrijeme)...
moguće, ja sam doživio doslovno culture shock odlaskom u JNA,Bobi wrote: ↑01/08/2022 18:50Pa iza, Sabre mlazni avioni, pa oni nešti Thunder.... ne znam tacno mlazni avioni, onako odokativno 300-400 komada sve skupa, pa oni s propelerima lovci nakon 2ww isto, pa tenkova bruku,ima na internetu podaci o tome, haubica bruku, cak do prije rata ovog naseg u sastavu JNA bile te americke haubice, ima na netu detaljnije, pa Sikorsky helikopteri...
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Pa bilo je 105-ica jos uvijek.
kako bi ga volio neđe u šumu samog cibnut i šesetkama oko njega šiljit...on tup...fžžžžžž...bum i tako vazdanGandalfSivi wrote: ↑01/08/2022 19:17Skontaj ga kako zmiri kada puca, isto curica kakva (uz duzno postovanje prema zenama ratnicama)...JoseMujica wrote: ↑01/08/2022 19:16ooo jarane...ovo je baš za nekog 18:30 termina, uz kaku sapunicu pustit ko reklamni klipSpoilerShow![]()
Od svih ovih likova on je realno prvi kandidat. Hem Cecenija nije zaboravila sta je Rusija, hem jako sumnjam da ovaj zna organizovati represivni aparat (i to treba znati)...JoseMujica wrote: ↑01/08/2022 19:20kako bi ga volio neđe u šumu samog cibnut i šesetkama oko njega šiljit...on tup...fžžžžžž...bum i tako vazdanGandalfSivi wrote: ↑01/08/2022 19:17
Skontaj ga kako zmiri kada puca, isto curica kakva (uz duzno postovanje prema zenama ratnicama)...![]()
puno opreme je prebaceno u skladista TO, minobacaci, artiljerija manjeg kalibra, mitraljezi (skoro svi Thompson automati i municija, ostalo bog zna gdje je zavrsilo) , na Mrakovici kod spomenika na Kozari je kod muzeja zavrsio M8 Greyhound kao eksponat, raja pojma nema misle da je je njemacko...

Pa prvi mlazni a i kasnije avioni su imali britanske mlazne motore i sjedišta za izbacivanje, ko zna jošmožda koji dio. maverik navoidjene rakete s kojom su gadjali Banske dvorove u Zagrebu, cluster sve bombe avijacije su bile američke. Meni se čini i radari da su bili made in US
Jeftiniji su tad bili avioni, pa su i ratne avijacije bile brojno vece. Kraljevina Jugoslavija ih je imala skoro 900, NDH je imala 200 samo naslijedjenih od Kraljevine.GandalfSivi wrote: ↑01/08/2022 19:14Fakat nemam pojma, ali ne mogu da vjerujem da je JNA u bilo kom momentu imala 600+ aviona...
Svaki dan nesto novo naucim. Ali hajde da ne skrecemo previse…geralt wrote: ↑01/08/2022 19:34Jeftiniji su tad bili avioni, pa su i ratne avijacije bile brojno vece. Kraljevina Jugoslavija ih je imala skoro 900, NDH je imala 200 samo naslijedjenih od Kraljevine.GandalfSivi wrote: ↑01/08/2022 19:14
Fakat nemam pojma, ali ne mogu da vjerujem da je JNA u bilo kom momentu imala 600+ aviona...
... nije ovo nista kolko je onomad cuvena jukina vojska ispucala streljiva na igmanu. nebo sve suplje bilo od silnog pucanjaJoseMujica wrote: ↑01/08/2022 19:16ooo jarane...ovo je baš za nekog 18:30 termina, uz kaku sapunicu pustit ko reklamni klip![]()