Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
- Alfons Kauders
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#10301 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Nisu mi jasne dvije stvari.
- Zasto pricate s likom
- Zasto je liku dozvoljeno da na forumu brani teroriste
- Zasto pricate s likom
- Zasto je liku dozvoljeno da na forumu brani teroriste
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L u c i f e r
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#10302 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Sa ideologijama zla nema i ne moze biti pregovora.kamberovica polje wrote:Sloboda govora prestaje kad nosiš hitlerovu svastiku na ruci i kad s tobom maršira KKK...takvi zaslužuju pendrečenje, kakva sloboda govora.
Ovakvi su dobili krila zahvaljujući pičkastim i mekanim liberalima koji su vodili borbe s vjetrenjačama ...Njihova politika je dovela na vlast svakojake kreature i dala je prostor krezubim i zatucanim maloumnicima da pod krinkom slobode govora prosipaju mržnju i da se pišaju po nauci.
SAD se nalazi na jako jebenoj prekretnici...vidjet ćemo šta će biti od toga.
Mahao je Neville Chamberlain dzaba papirom.
Dzaba su bili pregovori sa cetnicima i ustasama.
Samo sila.
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Drvenija87
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#10303 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Nisam aktivna na forumu vec treci mjesec upravo zbog takvih stvari.Alfons Kauders wrote:Nisu mi jasne dvije stvari.
- Zasto pricate s likom
- Zasto je liku dozvoljeno da na forumu brani teroriste
Banovana sam na mjesec dana zbog neslaganja sa administratorom,jednom rjecju supkom koji predstavlja Sarajevo u najgorem obliku,dozvoljavajuci tipovima poput
najdrazegvodje,panakonde ,cetnika bate i drugih,da konstantno omlazavaju sve ono sto pripada civilizovanom svijetu.
Bez ikakvog ukora dozvoljeno je rasistima,homofobima,ratnim zlocincima,negatorima genocida,ljubiteljima svijetskih diktatora i terorista, da otvoreno promoviraju svaki oblik mrznje i fasizma.
BLJAKKKKKKK
- Alfons Kauders
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#10304 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Ja o tim "teoreticarima" trubim godinama, samo na vlastitu stetuDrvenija87 wrote:Nisam aktivna na forumu vec treci mjesec upravo zbog takvih stvari.Alfons Kauders wrote:Nisu mi jasne dvije stvari.
- Zasto pricate s likom
- Zasto je liku dozvoljeno da na forumu brani teroriste
Banovana sam na mjesec dana zbog neslaganja sa administratorom,jednom rjecju supkom koji predstavlja Sarajevo u najgorem obliku,dozvoljavajuci tipovima poput
najdrazegvodje,panakonde ,cetnika bate i drugih,da konstantno omlazavaju sve ono sto pripada civilizovanom svijetu.
Bez ikakvog ukora dozvoljeno je rasistima,homofobima,ratnim zlocincima,negatorima genocida,ljubiteljima svijetskih diktatora i terorista, da otvoreno promoviraju svaki oblik mrznje i fasizma.
BLJAKKKKKKK
Hrpa ogranicenih rasista kojim je Jevrej kriv sto nemaju trebu i posao.
Ali eto, sloboda govora.
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#10305 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Ja na svakom frontu (temi) branio LGBT prava i ona me naziva homofobom, ratne zločince sam uvijek spominjao u negativnom kontekstu (neka mi pokaže gdje sam ih veličao) i ona govori da ih podržavam, zalažem se za jedinstvenu Bosnu bez entiteta i konstitutivnih naroda i onda me nazivaju četnikom, sinoć govorim kako se treba direktno sa činjenicama obračunat sa teoretičarima zavjera koji negiraju holokaust itd. ona govori da negiram genocid, sinoć mi onaj govori da sam lud jer smatram da Izrael ima pravo postojati i ova me sad proziva za anti semitizam. De dogovorite se više 
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#10306 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Mirno protestvovali sa stitovima i palicama? Daj bolan ne jedi govna svega ti.Pandakonda wrote:Kakva je sloboda tebi uskraćena ako neko iskorištava slobodu govora ? Šta, osjećanja ti možda povrijedio ? Kakav je to argumentjefferson wrote: Ti nemas APSOLUTNU slobodu govora! Mozda je to tebi tesko shvatiti, ali to je tako. To je posljedica ugovora izmedju tebe i drzave u zamjenu za zastitu i ostale usluge koje ti drzava nudi. Sve je to fino objasnio Zan Zak Ruso (cije je pisanje imalo ogromnog uticaja na Jeffersona, Madisona, Hamiltona itd).
Sloboda govora vazi sve dok ta sloboda ne ugrozava drugu osobu ili skupinu ljudi. Kada neko svastiku nosi ulicom, onda je to poziv na ubijanje jevreja, crnaca, muslimana i svega sto nema cistu bjelu krv. Problem danasnjeg drustave je sto je to drustvo osobama koa sto si ti dozvolilo da nude neko alternativno objasnjenje zakona. Ustavni sud je davno odlucio sta je sloboda govora i policija u Virginiji je zabranila skupove nakon one noci. Ti mozes pjevat borbene ali drzava ti ima pravo uzeti tu slobodu kada izadjes sa svastikom na ulicu ili zoves na ubijanje krscana, muslimana, jevjera, crnaca itd.Kakvo alternativno objašnjenje zakona ? Pa prvi amandman ti govori da imaš slobodu govora i mirnog okupljanja, oni likovi ne samo što su mirno protestovali ukidanju kipa i mjenjanje ime parka, nego su čak imali dozvolu od suda za to okupljanje.
Kada mases svastikom na ulici prvi amandman ti se vrlo lako moze uskratiti i mozes zavrsiti iza resetaka. Zna se na sta svastika poziva. U njemackoj su prije par dana dvojica kineza kaznjeni po 500 eura jer su dizali desnu ruku ispred Bundestaga, a amerikanac koji je to isto uradio u nekom kaficu u Drezdenu i popio batina, ne samo da su ga istukli, nego ce i kaznu platiti.
Ti nemas slobodu govora ako taj govor ugrozava prava drugih ljudi.
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#10307 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
I još jedno pitanje za ove "ratnike" što bi rušili kipove, zašto ne odete u aziju i srušite kip Genghis Khana koji je pokorio pola evrope ? Što ne odete u Istanbul i ne srušite/vratite Aju Sofiju koju su turski okupatori osvojili od evropljana ? Što ne odete u Španiju i ne uništite što su arapski okupatori postavili dok su špance držali kao robove ?
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#10308 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Odavno se rasni i kulturoloski problemi u Americi guraju pod tepih. Zbog toga je Trump izmedju ostalog i pobjedio na izborima.
Treba reci da se sve ovo desavalo i u Obaminom mandatu samo sto su to tada mainstream mediji tretirali drugacije.
Treba reci da se sve ovo desavalo i u Obaminom mandatu samo sto su to tada mainstream mediji tretirali drugacije.
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#10309 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Fantastican odgovor trumpovcu (Reddit):
I'll give you an honest answer: it's meant in good faith, but it's hard to answer something like "why do people always insult me and people like me?" without risking coming across as insulting...so bear that in mind.
The tl;dr here is that when you simultaneously claim to have the kinds of complaints you have--small town rotting away, etc.--while also claiming to be right-leaning, you basically come across as either (a) disingenuous, (b) hypocritical , or (c) lacking insight...and neither (a), nor (b), nor (c) is a good look, really.
The reason you come across that way is because the right--generally on the side of individual responsibility and free-market, yadda-yadda--already has answers for you:
It's not the government's place to pick winners and losers--that's what the free market is for! The opportunities are drying up in your town because the free market has found better opportunities elsewhere. Moreover, take some personal responsibility! No one forced you to stay there and watch your town rot away--you, yourself, are the one who freely chose to do that, no? Why didn't you take some responsibility for yourself, precisely? Moreover--and more importantly--if your town is that important to you, why didn't you take responsibility for your town? Did you try to start a business to increase local prosperity? Did you get involved in town governance and go soliciting outside investment? Or did you simply keep waiting for someone else to fix things?
These aren't necessarily nice things to tell you--I get that--but nevertheless they are the answers the principles of the right lead to if you actually apply them to you and your situation, no?
Thus why you risk coming across poorly: perhaps you are being (a)--disingenuous--and you don't actually believe what you claim to believe, but find it rhetorically useful? Perhaps you are being (b)--hypocritical--and you believe what you claim to believe, but only for other people, not yourself? Or perhaps you are simply (c)--uninsightful--and don't even understand the things you claim to believe well enough to apply them in your own situation?
In general if someone thinks you're either (a), (b), or (c)--whether consciously or not--they're going to take a negative outlook to you: seeing you as disingenuous or hypocritical means seeing you as participating in a discussion in bad faith, whereas seeing you as simply lacking insight means seeing you as someone running their mouth.
In practice I think a lot of people see this and get very frustrated--at least subconsciously--because your complaints make you come across as more left-leaning economically than you may realize...but--at least often--people like you still self-identify as right-leaning for cultural reasons. So you also get a bit of a "we should be political allies...but we can't, b/c you value your cultural identity more than your economics (and in fact don't even seem to apply your own economic ideas to yourself)".
A related issue is due to the fact that, overall, rural, low-density areas are already significantly over-represented at all levels of government--this is obvious at the federal level, and it's also generally-true within each state (in terms of the state-level reps and so on).
You may still feel as if "government has forgotten you"--I can understand and sympathize with the position--but if government has forgotten you, whose fault is that? Your general demographic has had outsized representation for longer than you, personally, have been alive--and the trend is actually going increasingly in your general demographic's direction due to aggressive state-level gerrymandering efforts, etc.--and so once again: if you--the collective "you", that is--have been "forgotten" it's no one's fault but yours--the collective "yours"!
This, too, leads to a certain natural condescension: if you have been overrepresented forever and can't prevent being "forgotten by government", the likeliest situation is simply that the collective "you" is simply incompetent--unable to use even outsized, disproportionate representation to achieve their own goals, whether due to asking for impossible things or being unwise in deciding how to vote.
This point can become a particular source of rancor due to the way that that overrepresentation pans out: the rural overrepresentation means that anything the left wants already faces an uphill climb--it has to overcome the "rural veto"!--and I think you can understand why that would be frustrating: "it's always the over-represented rural areas voting against what we want only to turn around and complain about how they feel ignored by government"...you're not ignored--at all!--it's just that your aggregate actions reveal your aggregate priorities are maybe not what you, individually, think they are.
I think that's enough: continually complaining in ways that are inconsistent with professed beliefs combined with continually claiming about being unable to get government to do what you want despite being substantially over-represented?
Not a good look.
What am I supposed to do?
Overall I'd say if you really care about your town you should take more responsibility for it. If you aren't involved in your city council or county government yet, why aren't you? You can run for office, of course, or you can just research the situation for yourself.
Do you understand your town and county finances--the operating and maintenance costs of its infrastructure and the sources of revenue (tax base, etc)? Do you have a working understanding of what potential employers consider when evaluating a location to build a factory (etc.), or are you just assuming you do?
If your town has tried and failed to lure outside investment, have you tried to find out why it failed--e.g. "what would it have taken to make us the winner?"--or are you, again, assuming you understand?
I would focus on that--you can't guarantee anything will actually lead to getting the respect you want, but generally your odds of being respected are a lot better if you've done things to earn respect...simply asking for respect--and complaining about not being respected--rarely works well.
I'll give you an honest answer: it's meant in good faith, but it's hard to answer something like "why do people always insult me and people like me?" without risking coming across as insulting...so bear that in mind.
The tl;dr here is that when you simultaneously claim to have the kinds of complaints you have--small town rotting away, etc.--while also claiming to be right-leaning, you basically come across as either (a) disingenuous, (b) hypocritical , or (c) lacking insight...and neither (a), nor (b), nor (c) is a good look, really.
The reason you come across that way is because the right--generally on the side of individual responsibility and free-market, yadda-yadda--already has answers for you:
It's not the government's place to pick winners and losers--that's what the free market is for! The opportunities are drying up in your town because the free market has found better opportunities elsewhere. Moreover, take some personal responsibility! No one forced you to stay there and watch your town rot away--you, yourself, are the one who freely chose to do that, no? Why didn't you take some responsibility for yourself, precisely? Moreover--and more importantly--if your town is that important to you, why didn't you take responsibility for your town? Did you try to start a business to increase local prosperity? Did you get involved in town governance and go soliciting outside investment? Or did you simply keep waiting for someone else to fix things?
These aren't necessarily nice things to tell you--I get that--but nevertheless they are the answers the principles of the right lead to if you actually apply them to you and your situation, no?
Thus why you risk coming across poorly: perhaps you are being (a)--disingenuous--and you don't actually believe what you claim to believe, but find it rhetorically useful? Perhaps you are being (b)--hypocritical--and you believe what you claim to believe, but only for other people, not yourself? Or perhaps you are simply (c)--uninsightful--and don't even understand the things you claim to believe well enough to apply them in your own situation?
In general if someone thinks you're either (a), (b), or (c)--whether consciously or not--they're going to take a negative outlook to you: seeing you as disingenuous or hypocritical means seeing you as participating in a discussion in bad faith, whereas seeing you as simply lacking insight means seeing you as someone running their mouth.
In practice I think a lot of people see this and get very frustrated--at least subconsciously--because your complaints make you come across as more left-leaning economically than you may realize...but--at least often--people like you still self-identify as right-leaning for cultural reasons. So you also get a bit of a "we should be political allies...but we can't, b/c you value your cultural identity more than your economics (and in fact don't even seem to apply your own economic ideas to yourself)".
A related issue is due to the fact that, overall, rural, low-density areas are already significantly over-represented at all levels of government--this is obvious at the federal level, and it's also generally-true within each state (in terms of the state-level reps and so on).
You may still feel as if "government has forgotten you"--I can understand and sympathize with the position--but if government has forgotten you, whose fault is that? Your general demographic has had outsized representation for longer than you, personally, have been alive--and the trend is actually going increasingly in your general demographic's direction due to aggressive state-level gerrymandering efforts, etc.--and so once again: if you--the collective "you", that is--have been "forgotten" it's no one's fault but yours--the collective "yours"!
This, too, leads to a certain natural condescension: if you have been overrepresented forever and can't prevent being "forgotten by government", the likeliest situation is simply that the collective "you" is simply incompetent--unable to use even outsized, disproportionate representation to achieve their own goals, whether due to asking for impossible things or being unwise in deciding how to vote.
This point can become a particular source of rancor due to the way that that overrepresentation pans out: the rural overrepresentation means that anything the left wants already faces an uphill climb--it has to overcome the "rural veto"!--and I think you can understand why that would be frustrating: "it's always the over-represented rural areas voting against what we want only to turn around and complain about how they feel ignored by government"...you're not ignored--at all!--it's just that your aggregate actions reveal your aggregate priorities are maybe not what you, individually, think they are.
I think that's enough: continually complaining in ways that are inconsistent with professed beliefs combined with continually claiming about being unable to get government to do what you want despite being substantially over-represented?
Not a good look.
What am I supposed to do?
Overall I'd say if you really care about your town you should take more responsibility for it. If you aren't involved in your city council or county government yet, why aren't you? You can run for office, of course, or you can just research the situation for yourself.
Do you understand your town and county finances--the operating and maintenance costs of its infrastructure and the sources of revenue (tax base, etc)? Do you have a working understanding of what potential employers consider when evaluating a location to build a factory (etc.), or are you just assuming you do?
If your town has tried and failed to lure outside investment, have you tried to find out why it failed--e.g. "what would it have taken to make us the winner?"--or are you, again, assuming you understand?
I would focus on that--you can't guarantee anything will actually lead to getting the respect you want, but generally your odds of being respected are a lot better if you've done things to earn respect...simply asking for respect--and complaining about not being respected--rarely works well.
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#10310 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Pandakonda wrote: rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Nađi kad sam ja tvrdio nešto ovako i onda ćemo pričati
Nisam cetnik, ali volim Drazu....
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#10311 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Trebalo je ovo reci ljudima 1939... "ako niste u stanju uvjeriti Hitlera kako nije fino poceti rat i pobiti 70 miliona ljudi, ne trebate se baviti politikom".Pandakonda wrote:skontaj da ako nisi sposoban uvjerit ljude da eleminacija jednog naroda nije ok onda se ne trebaš nikako ni baviti politikom i društvenim dešavanjima![]()
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#10312 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Svi su cinili zlocine... bre.NajdraziVodjaa wrote:Ti crnci blm nisu antifasisti oni su fasisti samo b strana... a antitrump protestantni su ekstremisti, vjerujem da bi ta rulja kamenovala i javno lincovala svakog ko ne misli kao oni.
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#10313 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Evo, ja se ne slazem.Pandakonda wrote:
Ista stvar je bila sa Richard Spencerom kad ga je onaj lik udario šakom, ljudi su se slagali sa tim udarcem
Trebao ga je udariti nogom...
ili, jos bolje, bejzbol palicom.
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#10314 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
E, ovo ni meni nije jasno. Je li i kix sad poceo sa "slobodom govora"?Alfons Kauders wrote: - Zasto je liku dozvoljeno da na forumu brani teroriste
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#10315 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Svacije misljenje je podjednako vazno i ispravno... I onog ko navija za ISIL i naciste, i onog ko je normalan.seln wrote:E, ovo ni meni nije jasno. Je li i kix sad poceo sa "slobodom govora"?Alfons Kauders wrote: - Zasto je liku dozvoljeno da na forumu brani teroriste
Sve je to isto, ljudi imaju svoja prava.
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#10316 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Ovaj djecko je jos mlad, ima nade za njega... pod uslovom da pocne citati knjige umjesto blogova i yt komentara.
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#10317 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Navuko se na Russia Today, nema nista od njega.ultima_palabra wrote:Ovaj djecko je jos mlad, ima nade za njega... pod uslovom da pocne citati knjige umjesto blogova i yt komentara.
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#10318 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Netačno, američka administracija je to tretirala drugačije. Nekad se zlo oštro sankcioniralo i nazivalo pravim imenom, danas se na mir pozivaju ''zaraćene strane''.bosanska senzacija wrote:
Treba reci da se sve ovo desavalo i u Obaminom mandatu samo sto su to tada mainstream mediji tretirali drugacije.
Zvuči poznato?
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#10319 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Skup ovih KKKovaca ili nacista ovolikog obima se nije desio decenijama. Obicno se radi o 50-ak ljudi. To jedno, drugo obicno ne bude mrtvih i ranjenih. Prema tome, nije isto kao sto se desavalo ranije.
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Kat
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#10320 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
In 1943, the US War Department released this video titled "Don't Be A Sucker!" to tell Americans not to fall for fascist rhetoric
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#10321 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Nisi banovana zbog neslaganja, nego zbog krsenja pravila foruma. Sada trajno. Dovidjenja.Drvenija87 wrote:Nisam aktivna na forumu vec treci mjesec upravo zbog takvih stvari.
Banovana sam na mjesec dana zbog neslaganja sa administratorom,jednom rjecju supkom koji predstavlja Sarajevo u najgorem obliku,dozvoljavajuci tipovima poput
najdrazegvodje,panakonde ,cetnika bate i drugih,da konstantno omlazavaju sve ono sto pripada civilizovanom svijetu.
Bez ikakvog ukora dozvoljeno je rasistima,homofobima,ratnim zlocincima,negatorima genocida,ljubiteljima svijetskih diktatora i terorista, da otvoreno promoviraju svaki oblik mrznje i fasizma.
BLJAKKKKKKK
Sto se tice ovih likova koji evidentno pisu sa agendom: oni nece nestati jer su banovani na klix forumu. Nastavice obitavati na portalu, na facebooku, na twitteru. Mozemo zabijati glavu u pijesak i stvarati ugodan kutak gdje cemo zajednicki pljuckati po ovim nazadnim trendovima. Ali oni ce nastaviti zivjeti tu pored vas i guslati svoje. Medjutim, za razliku od tih medija, smatram da ovdje ima dovoljno pametne raje, kriticna masa, da moze poklopiti njihove tlapnje, a sto se vidi iz prilozenog.
Mozete se slagati sa ovim stavom ili ne, odluka je moja i bez obzira sto je iz postova i opravdavanja vidljivo u koju tikvu pusu, dok su koliko toliko civilizovani, nece biti banovani.
To je to. Di end.
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#10322 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Eno osudi ih tvamp preko kurca, radi guza...
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#10323 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Kontao sam u naredne godinu-dvije da se odselim u Ameriku. Da li ipak da otkažem te planove?
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#10324 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About
Znaci ovako to ide:
A danas se ispostavi da je lik ovaj debilko:

uslikan malo ranije noseci fasisticke simbole.
Posto pretpostavljam da bi sljedeca faza bila debilisanje oko toga sta su fasisticki simboli sta ne, evo poucan video:
https://static01.nyt.com/video/players/ ... 0005361100
Kaze mama mu "mislila sam da samo ide na miting podrske Trumpu".
In other news, na Gallupu Trump pao na novi nizak rekord, 34%. Cekamo 20-e.
Dan poslije napise:Pandakonda wrote:Frajer koji je pokosio ove ljude je ustvari protiv Trumpa, ne znam zašto bi se frajer zaletio na ljude koje imaju isto mišljenje![]()
Pandakonda wrote:Ja nisam tvrdio da je ono za vozača 100% tačno,
A danas se ispostavi da je lik ovaj debilko:

uslikan malo ranije noseci fasisticke simbole.
Posto pretpostavljam da bi sljedeca faza bila debilisanje oko toga sta su fasisticki simboli sta ne, evo poucan video:
https://static01.nyt.com/video/players/ ... 0005361100
Kaze mama mu "mislila sam da samo ide na miting podrske Trumpu".
In other news, na Gallupu Trump pao na novi nizak rekord, 34%. Cekamo 20-e.
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