Sirija vol. 2

Challenger_ · Post by **Challenger_** » 10/02/2018 20:11

Digresija, Seul:

Kikibombona · Post by **Kikibombona** » 10/02/2018 20:14

muhafuca wrote:
japin_mutapi wrote:nije ypg kao isil

isil su amateri za ypg - kao neki gameri cod naspram legionara ili sasovaca
ja koliko se sjecam ISIS je razvalio YPG, 1 na 1, prije nego se Americka avijacija i artiljerija ukljucila na stranu YPG-a.

ISIS jeste razvalio YPG 1v1 u Kobaniju, ali je njih YPG razvalio 1v1 u provinciji Hasaka. Ti o tome naravno nemas pojma, ti mislis da su borbe bile samo u Kobaniju, maloj i okruzenoj enklavi.

2013. godina, dosta prije nego ce se ukljuciti Amerikanci:

Razvaljena Nusra

On 16 July, the Kana'is street (where the YPG was positioned) and the al-Mahatta neighborhood (where al-Nusra was positioned) witnessed clashes.[63] A few hours later, the YPG took control of the headquarters of al-Nusra and released the fighter al-Nusra had kidnapped.[65]

On 17 July, Kurdish fighters expelled the jihadists from the town of Ras al-Ayn after a night of fighting[66] and soon after took control of the border crossing with Turkey.[67] Islamist forces retreated from Ras al-Ayn to Tal Half, Asfar and Najar which were under rebel control.[68] 11 people were killed during the fighting, including nine jihadist and two Kurdish fighters.[69]

On 19 July, the YPG captured the village of Tal A'lo.[70] Fighting was still continuing in Karhouk and A'li Agha.[71] The next day, Kurdish fighters captured an al-Nusra checkpoint near the contested villages. By this point, 35 jihadist and 19 YPG fighters had been killed in the fighting.[72]

Porazi ISIL-a, dosta prije americkog angazmana, 2013. godina

On 26 October the YPG took control of the al-Yaarubiyah border crossing with Iraq[80] as well as the town itself.[81]

On 28 October, the ISIS front in the oil-rich Çil Axa region completely collapsed. The YPG captured the villages of Girhok, Yusufiyê, Sefa, Cinêdiyê, Girê Fatê, Ebû Hecer and Mezraa Kelem while remnants of the ISIS forces fled to Tal Hamis and Tal Brak.[82]

On 6 November, in Hasakah province, the YPG took over two villages west of Tall Tamer, on the highway to Aleppo, after clashes with the Islamic State, Jabhat Al-Nusra and allied rebel groups. The towns the YPG had taken over were Ghebesh and Tal Shemarin, which are inhabited by Assyrians.[84] By this point, YPG forces had captured a total of 40 towns and villages in the offensive.[85]

On 28 November, in Al-Hasakah province, YPG fighters took of three villages (Rokoba, A'wja, and Tal Maghas) which lie on the Tal Tamer-Hasaka road after violent clashes with the Islamic State, al-Nusra and several rebel battalions.[87]

2014.

On 24 January, jihadist forces attacked the YPG-held town of Manajeer in the Al-Hasakah Governorate. However, after four days of fighting, their attack was repelled. 23 Islamist and three Kurdish fighters were killed. During the fighting, the YPG also captured at least one tank from the jihadists.[89]

itd, itd

Amerikanci su se ukljucili tek 22. septembra 2014. Do tada su Kurdi dvije godine vodili zestoke borbe sa ISIL-om, Nusrom, Ahrar Shamom i ostalim dzihadistima.

YPG je bio jaci u Heseke sve vrijeme. Nisu se borbe vodile samo u Kobaniju, nego u cijeloj sjevernoj Siriji. Ti izgleda ne kontas da je Kobane samo jedan grad. Mozda brkaas pojmove, Rojava i Kobane.

japin_mutapi · Post by **japin_mutapi** » 10/02/2018 20:20

jedino se ypg borio sa isilom i dobijao bitke a posle ih i ponistili skroz ... doduse i brkati general, al on defanzivno

svima ostalima su ocitali lekciju iz vojne vjestine

muhafuca · Post by **muhafuca** » 10/02/2018 20:20

Kikibombona wrote:
muhafuca wrote:
japin_mutapi wrote:nije ypg kao isil

isil su amateri za ypg - kao neki gameri cod naspram legionara ili sasovaca
ja koliko se sjecam ISIS je razvalio YPG, 1 na 1, prije nego se Americka avijacija i artiljerija ukljucila na stranu YPG-a.
ISIS jeste razvalio YPG 1v1 u Kobaniju, ali je njih YPG razvalio 1v1 u provinciji Hasaka. Ti o tome naravno nemas pojma, ti mislis da su borbe bile samo u Kobaniju, maloj i okruzenoj enklavi.

2013. godina, dosta prije nego ce se ukljuciti Amerikanci:

Razvaljena Nusra

On 16 July, the Kana'is street (where the YPG was positioned) and the al-Mahatta neighborhood (where al-Nusra was positioned) witnessed clashes.[63] A few hours later, the YPG took control of the headquarters of al-Nusra and released the fighter al-Nusra had kidnapped.[65]

On 17 July, Kurdish fighters expelled the jihadists from the town of Ras al-Ayn after a night of fighting[66] and soon after took control of the border crossing with Turkey.[67] Islamist forces retreated from Ras al-Ayn to Tal Half, Asfar and Najar which were under rebel control.[68] 11 people were killed during the fighting, including nine jihadist and two Kurdish fighters.[69]

On 19 July, the YPG captured the village of Tal A'lo.[70] Fighting was still continuing in Karhouk and A'li Agha.[71] The next day, Kurdish fighters captured an al-Nusra checkpoint near the contested villages. By this point, 35 jihadist and 19 YPG fighters had been killed in the fighting.[72]
Porazi ISIL-a, dosta prije americkog angazmana, 2013. godina

On 26 October the YPG took control of the al-Yaarubiyah border crossing with Iraq[80] as well as the town itself.[81]

On 28 October, the ISIS front in the oil-rich Çil Axa region completely collapsed. The YPG captured the villages of Girhok, Yusufiyê, Sefa, Cinêdiyê, Girê Fatê, Ebû Hecer and Mezraa Kelem while remnants of the ISIS forces fled to Tal Hamis and Tal Brak.[82]

On 6 November, in Hasakah province, the YPG took over two villages west of Tall Tamer, on the highway to Aleppo, after clashes with the Islamic State, Jabhat Al-Nusra and allied rebel groups. The towns the YPG had taken over were Ghebesh and Tal Shemarin, which are inhabited by Assyrians.[84] By this point, YPG forces had captured a total of 40 towns and villages in the offensive.[85]

On 28 November, in Al-Hasakah province, YPG fighters took of three villages (Rokoba, A'wja, and Tal Maghas) which lie on the Tal Tamer-Hasaka road after violent clashes with the Islamic State, al-Nusra and several rebel battalions.[87]
2014.

On 24 January, jihadist forces attacked the YPG-held town of Manajeer in the Al-Hasakah Governorate. However, after four days of fighting, their attack was repelled. 23 Islamist and three Kurdish fighters were killed. During the fighting, the YPG also captured at least one tank from the jihadists.[89]
itd, itd

Amerikanci su se ukljucili tek 22. septembra 2014. Do tada su Kurdi dvije godine vodili zestoke borbe sa ISIL-om, Nusrom, Ahrar Shamom i ostalim dzihadistima.

YPG je bio jaci u Heseke sve vrijeme. Nisu se borbe vodile samo u Kobaniju, nego u cijeloj sjevernoj Siriji. Ti izgleda ne kontas da je Kobane samo jedan grad. Mozda brkaas pojmove, Rojava i Kobane.

Jel ovo sve dok je se ISIS proguravao kroz Istocnu Siriju (faza formiranja i ustolicavanja ISIS-a u Siriji) i prije nego se ozbiljno posvetio razvaljivanju Kurda?

Prvi put kad su ozbiljno krenuli na Kurde - bilo je razvaljivanje.

De provjeri u svojoj tekici tamo

Kikibombona · Post by **Kikibombona** » 10/02/2018 20:31

madner wrote:Ovi vjeciti moralni pobjednici su najgori, ne mogu nikad izgubiti.

Ako uzmemo sljedece cinjenice u obzir:

- Efrin je duplo manji i ima duplo manje stanovnika od USK
- okruzen je, potpuno odvojen od ostatka kurdskog teritorija
- napada ih druga po velicini NATO vojska, sa avionima, helikopterima, dronovima, tenkovima i svime ostalim
- napada ih hiljade indoktriniranih mudzahedina, medju njima psi rata sa iskustvima iz Afganistana itd.
- za 20 dana borbe Turci i mudzahedini su uzeli 5-6% teritorija Efrina, napredovali max. 4km u dubinu
- gubici na strani mudzahedina su otprilike jednaki gubicima Kurda, PREMA pro-mudzahedinskom SOHR-u
- gubici Turaka su 25 vojnika i blizu 100 ranjenih, helikopter, nekoliko tenkova i drugog oklopa. Jedno oklopno vozilo je zarobljeno.

Kada se sve uzme u obzir kakav se zakljucak moze izvuci?

Tome pridodati da YPG nema artiljeriju, nikakvo napredno oruzje osim par desetina dotrajalih fagota i drugih navodecih protuoklopnih sistema.

Ja nisam nacisto, jesu li Kurdi toliko hrabri i dobri borci ili su Turci toliko losi i nesposobni. Ja bih prije tipovao na nesposobnost Turaka. Ne mogu zamisliti da bi se ovako patili recimo Britanci, o Amerikancima necu ni da govorim.

Kikibombona · Post by **Kikibombona** » 10/02/2018 20:39

muhafuca wrote:
Jel ovo sve dok je se ISIS proguravao kroz Istocnu Siriju (faza formiranja i ustolicavanja ISIS-a u Siriji) i prije nego se ozbiljno posvetio razvaljivanju Kurda?

Prvi put kad su ozbiljno krenuli na Kurde - bilo je razvaljivanje.

De provjeri u svojoj tekici tamo

Kada ih je YPG razvaljivao bili su neozbiljni, salili se!?

Dobar si momak.

Nije rat ISIL-a i YPG poceo sa Kobanijem. Ti znas samo za Kobane. Ratovali su u Efrinu, u Heseke itd.

U Kobaniju su isto trpili batine kada je bila puska na pusku. Onda je iracka armija pobjegla i ostavila ISIL-u gomilu tehnike. Tada vise nije bila puska na pusku, vec tenk i haubica na pusku.

Mart 2014., prije nego ce ISIL doci pred Kobane sa gomilom modernog americkog oruzja!

On 17 March, heavy clashes erupted between the YPG and ISIL near the Qereqozak Bridge in Kobanê. The YPG claimed to have killed 40 ISIS fighters.[102] On 19 March, the YPG captured Tell Henzir village.[103] The next day, the YPG also took control of Tell Henzir, Tell Xezal Miço, Ferisa Şerabiyan, Ferisa Sofiyan, Ferisa Dişo, Tell Boğan and Tell Meha. It was also stated that 32 Islamic State fighters were killed in the clashes.[104]

Challenger_ · Post by **Challenger_** » 10/02/2018 20:52

Špekulacije. Na stranim forumima se mogu pročitati tvrdnje da je avion oboren iz Pancira...

a ovo dovode u vezu (?) sa poginulim ruskim pilotom.

Opetja033 · Post by **Opetja033** » 10/02/2018 20:52

Kikibombona wrote: PREMA pro-mudzahedinskom SOHR-u

Hoces li se prestati blamirati danas? Nesto ti nije dobro?

SOHR:

Turkey supports anything that harms the Kurds'
none of the groups is actually fighting for Syria!
They are all pursuing some foreign agenda. In this case, they're following Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's agenda.
Turkey's only genuine enemy in Syria is the Kurds. Turkey allowed jihadi fighters to cross its border as early as 2011, as we have repeatedly reported. Turkey supports anything that harms the Kurds. Over a year ago, Turkey withdrew its armed forces from eastern Aleppo, which then was surrounded by President al-Assad's troops to use them against the YPG and prevent Kurdish-controlled Afrin linking up with other Kurdish areas. By withdrawing its troops from Aleppo, Turkey effectively handed over the city to Damascus.

Ali kako danas hladno slaga kako su prema SOHR-ovim podacima Turcima mnogo veći gubici nego sto sami Turci priznaju.
Kad sam te uhvatio u lazi, odjednom drugu pricu pricas, kao da ranije nista drugo nisi pisao. Sad je odjednom SOHR promudzahedinski iako zestoko kritikuje i tursku intervenciju u Afrinu i sve grupe koje učestvuju u istoj.

Imas li trunku obraza barem?

Maystor · Post by **Maystor** » 10/02/2018 20:57

Challenger_ wrote:Špekulacije. Na stranim forumima se mogu pročitati tvrdnje da je avion oboren iz Pancira...

a ovo dovode u vezu (?) sa poginulim ruskim pilotom.

Ja i dalje tipujem na Mersad. A to, čak i da je slučaj, neće biti objavljeno.
btw Elijah Magnier tvrdi da cionisti nikada, pa ni danas, ne gađaju irance u Siriji, iako veoma dobro znaju gdje su.

Pozdrav

Challenger_ · Post by **Challenger_** » 10/02/2018 21:00

Majstore. Ne znam i ne mogu da znam, samo prenosim različite tvrdnje. Pozdrav i tebi!

jefff · Post by **jefff** » 10/02/2018 21:03

https://youtu.be/gAaf8km6bMY
Nesto ovako je koristeno.

Maystor · Post by **Maystor** » 10/02/2018 21:06

Tigrove snage likvidirale orke kod sela Ebu Dali:

karakters · Post by **karakters** » 10/02/2018 21:12

Ako se ne radi o bijelim kacigama, na tim slikama su neki mrtvi ljudi.

General War · Post by **General War** » 10/02/2018 21:13

Conricus said missile remnants were found near the crash site: “We don’t know yet if it’s an SA-5 or SA-17, but it’s a Syrian anti-aircraft missile.”

karanana · Post by **karanana** » 10/02/2018 21:13

mozda je negdje napisano ali nisam pohvato: na ciju teritoriju je pao i gdje su piloti?

Challenger_ · Post by **Challenger_** » 10/02/2018 21:15

- Još jedna, za sad nepotvrđena, ali vrlo vjerovatno tačna vijest koja će po hiljaditi put srušiti vulgarnu, papansku i iznad svega netačnu naraciju o navodno genocidnoj, antikurdkoj prirodi vlasti u Damasku:

Dozens of Shia fighters from Nubl and Zahraa started to fight alongside the Syrian Democratic Forces against the Turkish Army in Afrin

LINK

General War · Post by **General War** » 10/02/2018 21:17

Maystor wrote:Tigrove snage povaljale veliku količinu Savine braće kod sela Ebu Dali

Ja ne vidim niti jednog dijela odjece na njima sto bi podsjecalo na neku oruzanu grupu i ovako razbacane bez vidljivih znakova borbe...prije ce liciti jedan od bezbroj ratnih zlocina. Na stranu zasto se ovako explicitne stvari postavljaju na forumu, dovoljan bi bio link pa koga zanima...ovako susta suprotnost od onoga sta se tvrdi.

General War · Post by **General War** » 10/02/2018 21:19

karanana wrote:mozda je negdje napisano ali nisam pohvato: na ciju teritoriju je pao i gdje su piloti?

Piloti iskocili, avion pao negdje oko Haife (izrael)

Maystor · Post by **Maystor** » 10/02/2018 21:20

Radi se o pripadnicima isila, trole.

Challenger_ · Post by **Challenger_** » 10/02/2018 21:21

karanana wrote:mozda je negdje napisano ali nisam pohvato: na ciju teritoriju je pao i gdje su piloti?

Pao na teritoriju pod kontrolom izraelskih vlasti. Jedan pilot je dobro, drugi je loše "ali je njegovo stanje pod kontrolom ljekara".

The two pilots who ejected from their F-16 before it crashed in #Israel, one who was in serious but stable condition is improving;

General War · Post by **General War** » 10/02/2018 21:23

Sve sto hoda po siriji a nije sa Asadove strane je Isil, Asadov borgu.

Challenger_ · Post by **Challenger_** » 10/02/2018 21:24

Ahrar al-Sham figure, calls upon #Israel to "bomb #Syria & #Iran by air & sea", asking Israel2 "hurry up interfering".

Opetja033 · Post by **Opetja033** » 10/02/2018 21:25

Jesu ovo na fotkama Dasheovci izginuli u proboju. Potvrdjeno sa vise različitih izvora.

Ali kako god fakat edituj komentar, daj da malo držimo nivo na temi. Znaš k'o i ja da je ovo strogo zabranjeno pravilima foruma.

Opetja033 · Post by **Opetja033** » 10/02/2018 21:26

Challenger_ wrote:
Ahrar al-Sham figure, calls upon #Israel to "bomb #Syria & #Iran by air & sea", asking Israel2 "hurry up interfering".

Izvor?

Kikibombona · Post by **Kikibombona** » 10/02/2018 21:27

Opetja033 wrote:
Kikibombona wrote: PREMA pro-mudzahedinskom SOHR-u
Hoces li se prestati blamirati danas? Nesto ti nije dobro?

SOHR:
Turkey supports anything that harms the Kurds'
none of the groups is actually fighting for Syria!
They are all pursuing some foreign agenda. In this case, they're following Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's agenda.
Turkey's only genuine enemy in Syria is the Kurds. Turkey allowed jihadi fighters to cross its border as early as 2011, as we have repeatedly reported. Turkey supports anything that harms the Kurds. Over a year ago, Turkey withdrew its armed forces from eastern Aleppo, which then was surrounded by President al-Assad's troops to use them against the YPG and prevent Kurdish-controlled Afrin linking up with other Kurdish areas. By withdrawing its troops from Aleppo, Turkey effectively handed over the city to Damascus.
Ali kako danas hladno slaga kako su prema SOHR-ovim podacima Turcima mnogo veći gubici nego sto sami Turci priznaju.
Kad sam te uhvatio u lazi, odjednom drugu pricu pricas, kao da ranije nista drugo nisi pisao. Sad je odjednom SOHR promudzahedinski iako zestoko kritikuje i tursku intervenciju u Afrinu i sve grupe koje učestvuju u istoj.

Imas li trunku obraza barem?

SOHR je na strani Kurda jednako kao Saxxx.

Oni su dzihadista od pocetka i sa Kurdima nemaju nikakve veze.

Gubici prema neutralnom SyrianCivilWarMap

https://syriancivilwarmap.com/syria-death-toll/

- 232 mudzahedina
- 31 turski vojnik
- 103 YPG

Danas je navodno poginulo 11 turskih vojnika

Turkish media reports that 11 Turkish soldiers were killed and 11 Turkish soldiers were injured in #Afrin today

Glasine da su siitski ratnici iz Nubla i Zare stigli u Efrin. Poznato je da su Kurdi spasavali Nubl i Zaru kada su okruzenu enklavu napadali suni ekstremisti. Bice da im se sada zele oduziti...

https://twitter.com/majed_abdalnoor/sta ... 8590489600

Iranski vozilo u Dzindiresu

https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/statu ... 8411230208

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