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#1026 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 21/02/2019 17:36
by japin_mutapi
ismete horo, spavas li mirno

#1027 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 22/02/2019 03:35
by muhafuca
jeza u ledja wrote:
muhafuca wrote:
japin_mutapi wrote:onoga koji je na silu došao na vlast smjenjuješ takođe na silu
drugačije ne ide
nije tema Egipat - zalutao si - ovo je o Venezueli
Ja mislio da je tema Iran. :D
eh sad se ti vrati na 53-u i kad su Zapadnjaci shaha ustolicili.

Morali se Zapadovi poslusnici revolucijom zbacivati sa vlasti.


al mislio sam vise na skorasnje dogadjaje.

ako cemo toliko daleko u historiju ici dalo bi se prelistati o drzavnim udarima po juznoj i centralnoj americi.

a tu i tamo i po africi pa i po JI aziji (itd vjerovatno)

#1028 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 22/02/2019 12:51
by japin_mutapi
nemoj da zaboravis - a ko nas, bre, zavadi

#1029 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 22/02/2019 17:16
by muhafuca
japin_mutapi wrote:nemoj da zaboravis - a ko nas, bre, zavadi
zavadi? ma japi tapi nije nas niko zavadio - ne znam odakle ti to

ako je do mene sta - halali :kiss:

on topic

AJ uradila malo podsjecanja na historijski kontekst USA - Venezuela odnosa i malo sire.

S obzirom od koga je poprilicno je objektivan.
Venezuelan Crisis: The Long History Of U.S. Intervention

#1030 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 22/02/2019 22:33
by GandalfSivi
Sve je to fake news. Evo dokaza da se omladina u Venucueli bas lijepo zabavlja :)

https://www.ft.com/content/d107562c-35d ... 459962a812

#1031 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 22/02/2019 22:48
by jeza u ledja
Nemamo ti mi pretplatu na taj tvoj Financial Times. :| :D

#1032 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 23/02/2019 15:59
by славянин
Vojska Venecuele napusta pozicije na Kolumbijskoj granici.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-47343918

#1033 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 23/02/2019 17:13
by sarajevoxxxx
RT: Demonstranti zauzeli aerodrom "Santa Elena" nakon sukoba sa venecuelanskom nacionalnom gardom

#1034 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 23/02/2019 17:20
by Point.
Samo udri režim!

#1035 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 23/02/2019 18:25
by Samprotivsviju
Evo kazu vojska na granici sa Kolumbijom sklonila se sa granice, sto je protiv Madurovih naredbi.

Maduro na aparatima, kao i Putin.

#1036 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 23/02/2019 22:11
by muhafuca
Samprotivsviju wrote:Evo kazu vojska na granici sa Kolumbijom sklonila se sa granice, sto je protiv Madurovih naredbi.

Maduro na aparatima, kao i Putin.
bilo je tako i za Siriju - gotovo je - za par dana Vlada pada - pa se odbranise ipak

hele nejse

humanitarna pomoc iz Cilea stigla u Venezuelu - uredno i bez problema

preko aerodroma

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https://twitter.com/TVVnoticias/status/1099006139541401602

#1037 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 23/02/2019 22:18
by vivaldi
slabo na ovoj temi nekih novih cinjenica, mislim da je jedino Jefferson napisao kako veneceuelanska nafta ima problem zbog visokog ucesca sumpora, sto nije bila opstepoznata informacija.

ko od tih latino kabadahija podrzava madura - znam za boliviju, i evo izgleda cile jer cim je maduro pustio humanitarnu onda su vjerovatno raja pod uslovom da je vijest tacna? ko je za a ko protiv?

#1038 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 23/02/2019 23:20
by Point.
vivaldi wrote:slabo na ovoj temi nekih novih cinjenica, mislim da je jedino Jefferson napisao kako veneceuelanska nafta ima problem zbog visokog ucesca sumpora, sto nije bila opstepoznata informacija.

ko od tih latino kabadahija podrzava madura - znam za boliviju, i evo izgleda cile jer cim je maduro pustio humanitarnu onda su vjerovatno raja pod uslovom da je vijest tacna? ko je za a ko protiv?
Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Guyana, Honduras, Panama, Paraguay, Peru and Saint Lucia.

#1039 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 23/02/2019 23:39
by GandalfSivi
jeza u ledja wrote:Nemamo ti mi pretplatu na taj tvoj Financial Times. :| :D

Venezuela’s elite restaurants thrive as food shortages worsen
After 20 years of socialist revolution, the gap between ‘haves’ and ‘have nots’ seems as wide as ever


While thousands of volunteers plan to spend this weekend distributing food to those hit hardest by Venezuela’s humanitarian crisis, a lucky few in Caracas will be tucking into steak with butter sauce, asparagus and roast potatoes, topped with parmesan cheese, parsley and truffle oil.

That’s one of the signature dishes at La Esquina, one of a handful of restaurants that still function and indeed thrive in a klix bubble of opulence in the Venezuelan capital.

Elsewhere in the country, people are suffering hunger and malnutrition, victims of the biggest economic collapse in modern Latin American history. Just metres from the restaurant, they rummage through refuse skips looking for food.

But La Esquina’s leafy terrace is packed. Well-heeled Venezuelans in designer clothes sip vodka tonics and nibble on crayfish tempura and grilled octopus. A soft light glimmers off the ornamental pool. Outside, the street is lined with SUVs, their tinted windows shut tight. Drivers and bodyguards stand by, waiting for their employers to emerge. The steak costs 35,500 bolívares ($11). Throw in a bottle of 2011 Pascal Chatonnet Bordeaux and the bill jumps to $87 — 15 times the monthly minimum wage.

“What can I say? I’m not going to tell you I’m a typical Venezuelan or that we all live like this,” says 27-year-old Mauricio Barragán as he orders at the bar. “I’m lucky. I have money.”

La Esquina is not alone. Up the road, Lola attracts a younger crowd. Both restaurants look like they’ve been plucked from Miami’s South Beach. During the day, well-dressed shoppers flock to the Fresh Fish delicatessen to buy the kind of food most Venezuelans can only dream of. The shelves are packed with German caviar, French champagne and Spanish olive oil. A bijou 300g bag of Carnaroli rice imported from Italy, costs 16,300 bolívars ($5).

“We know we’re the fortunate few,” says Edwin Figueroa, a 37-year-old financial consultant as he unloads his groceries at the checkout. “No one in this place can seriously claim to be affected by the hardship that most Venezuelans are suffering.”

Who are this wealthy elite? How do they make their money? “Some are from old money,” one diplomatic source says. “They made their wealth years ago and invested it wisely — in Miami and elsewhere. They don’t necessarily spend a lot of time in Caracas these days but when they do, they live very well indeed.”

Others are from the new rich, the so-called “boligarchs” who have benefited from their ties to President Nicolás Maduro’s Bolivarian socialist regime and got rich by playing the exchange rate system, which for years allowed them to buy dollars at a vastly discounted rate and sell them at a profit on the black market. Still others are said to have grown rich through good old-fashioned corruption.

On a recent afternoon, I found Raúl Gorrín, the millionaire owner of TV channel Globovisión, relaxing with business associates on the terrace of La Esquina. Days earlier, the US Treasury had sanctioned him, accusing him and his partners of paying hundreds of millions of dollars in bribes to Venezuelan officials and conspiring to launder more than $1bn through Florida and New York.

But in Caracas, the US authorities cannot touch Mr Gorrín. He declined to comment on his case but it didn’t seem to trouble him. Despite 20 years of a so-called socialist revolution, the gap between Venezuela’s “haves” and “have nots” seems as wide as ever, if not wider. Not only has the revolution failed by the standards of western capitalism (it has not made people richer) but on its own terms (it has not created a more equal society).

For now, the wine still flows. There are few signs that the sanctions the US imposed on the oil industry last month are biting. When they do, they could play into Mr Maduro’s hands.

“Within a month or two . . . only government vehicles will have gas and only government officials will be eating well,” wrote David Smilde, at Tulane University in the US, in a recent op-ed. “[This will] allow Maduro to ratchet down his authoritarian project.”

#1040 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 23/02/2019 23:58
by jeza u ledja
Haha, stare dobre cari socijalisticke revolucije. :lol:

#1041 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 24/02/2019 01:34
by Point.
Kad kamiondžija preuzme vlast i osjeti njene čari, poput Putina, Erdogan, onog kineskog doživotnog predsjednika, Iranskih ayatola i ostalih koji ga podržavaju a koji zajedno sjede preko 1000 godina na vlasti, tu samo prosperitet vlada i teče med i mlijeko.

¡Viva la revolucion! ¡No Pasaran! ¡El muerte del America!

#1042 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 24/02/2019 11:18
by Novosti
Samo da rata ne bude, nadam se da će narod Venecuele naći neko rješenje.

#1043 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 24/02/2019 12:34
by Samprotivsviju
Treba i temu S.Arabija otvoriti, vidim onaj princ se vec Kinezima poceo uvlaciti...skonto da je zajebo' sa onim novinarom.

#1044 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 24/02/2019 14:59
by GandalfSivi
Samprotivsviju wrote:Treba i temu S.Arabija otvoriti, vidim onaj princ se vec Kinezima poceo uvlaciti...skonto da je zajebo' sa onim novinarom.
https://forum.klix.ba/zaljevske-monarhi ... s1225.html

#1045 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 24/02/2019 17:53
by muhafuca
twitter thread o paljevini kamiona na granici - kamione zapalili Guidovi ljudi a ne pro-vladini ljudi

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https://twitter.com/garoukike/status/1099417309389688832

#1046 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 24/02/2019 17:56
by muhafuca
Medjunarodni crveni kriz poslao poruku Guidovim pristasama

da ne koriste oznake Crvenog Krsta jer zvanicni Crveni Krst ne ucestvuje u njihovim akcijama.
We’ve learned that there are some people not affiliated w/ @cruzrojacol & @CruzRojaVe wearing Red Cross emblems at Colombia-#Venezuela & Brazil-Ven border. We urge them to stop doing this. They might mean well but they risk jeopardizing our neutrality, impartiality & independence

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https://twitter.com/Federation/status/1099374815394308102

#1047 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 24/02/2019 18:25
by sarajevoxxxx
Zna li se je li fašističko zlo izmigoljilo iz Libanona i Teherana? Jesu li gadovi iz šijitskih milicija krenuli prema Venecueli ili još čekaju vjersku dozvolu šijitskih mula za ubijanje žena, djece, i drugih civila? Šta kaže gad na čelu Hzbellata je li vakat za džihad u Venecueli, ili čeka keš od Saudijaca da mu plate pa će onda?

#1048 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 24/02/2019 18:31
by zrakomlat
sarajevoxxxx wrote:Zna li se je li fašističko zlo izmigoljilo iz Libanona i Teherana? Jesu li gadovi iz šijitskih milicija krenuli prema Venecueli ili još čekaju vjersku dozvolu šijitskih mula za ubijanje žena, djece, i drugih civila? Šta kaže gad na čelu Hzbellata je li vakat za džihad u Venecueli, ili čeka keš od Saudijaca da mu plate pa će onda?
Post ti tukne na militantni vehabizam, isilovštinu s dna kace.

Na temi venecuele on vidi šije i saudijce :-)

#1049 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 24/02/2019 18:52
by zavrzlama
Koga god rusi podrzaju taj je na pogresnoj strani i na kraju luzer.

#1050 Re: Venecuela

Posted: 24/02/2019 22:12
by Challenger_
- Američki novinar Max Blumenthal u supermarketu u Karakasu...


"Američki novinar Max Blumenthal, koji već duže vremena prati situaciju u Venezueli (i brojna druga geopolitička žarišta), posjetio je Caracas te otkriva kako tamo situacija nije baš tako depresivna kako je već neko vrijeme mediji prikazuju. Obišao je na svoju ruku nekoliko supermarketa u glavnom gradu Venezuele i nije uočio velike nestašice o kojima se često priča...Stvar ovdje nije u distribuciji hrane i dobara. Problem je kupovna moć stanovnika Venezuele koja je u potpunosti uništena jer im je valuta tako drastično oslabila zbog hiperinflacije, spekulacija i ulaska dolara putem crnog tržišta kojeg vlasti ne mogu kontrolirati. Tu je i gomilanje dobara od strane kapitalističkih elemenata koji podupiru opoziciju".