Ateizam vs. Religija

[Smrcak15]

Dead Sea: Biblical wonder is facing 'environmental disaster in slow motion'
https://news.sky.com/story/shrinking-de ... e-HPcUC6es

kada ovo jezero presusi ocekujte Dedzala i Isusa Krista na zemlji a samim tim i skoriji Smak svijeta.

[irac300]

'mal' ne reko' koga da ocekujem!

[Ramzess Veliki]

Opisuje historijske cinjenice koje ce arheologija potvrditi za nekoliko godina.

Koje istorijske činjenice?

faraonovo tijelo koje je ljudskom rodu na izlozbi, ime vodje radnika gradjevina u novom kraljevstvu u egiptu, raspoznavanje kada je bio vladar a kada faraon u egiptu, kako su se radile gradjevine u egiptu pa samim tim vjerovatno i piramide itd

Mog imenjaka? Prema period kad se desio exodus to je bilo u doba Rammesesa Drugog.

[broj dva]

Dead Sea: Biblical wonder is facing 'environmental disaster in slow motion'
https://news.sky.com/story/shrinking-de ... e-HPcUC6es

kada ovo jezero presusi ocekujte Dedzala i Isusa Krista na zemlji a samim tim i skoriji Smak svijeta.

Tebi sine nema pomoći
Žao mi tebe i žao mi švedske.
p.s kao ti reaguje švedska raja (predpostavljam da imaš prijatelja šveda) kad im nagovjestiš smak svjeta i ukažeš na zablude teorije evolucije , Je li se pristojno smješkaju ili dobiju onu facu kao da se neko na sred dnevnog boravka posro ?

[Smrcak15]

Mog imenjaka? Prema period kad se desio exodus to je bilo u doba Rammesesa Drugog.

pogledaj dokumentarac

[Smrcak15]

Dead Sea: Biblical wonder is facing 'environmental disaster in slow motion'
https://news.sky.com/story/shrinking-de ... e-HPcUC6es

kada ovo jezero presusi ocekujte Dedzala i Isusa Krista na zemlji a samim tim i skoriji Smak svijeta.

Tebi sine nema pomoći
Žao mi tebe i žao mi švedske.
p.s kao ti reaguje švedska raja (predpostavljam da imaš prijatelja šveda) kad im nagovjestiš smak svjeta i ukažeš na zablude teorije evolucije , Je li se pristojno smješkaju ili dobiju onu facu kao da se neko na sred dnevnog boravka posro ?

pusti mi te zalopoljke ovdje...sto ne pitas kakva dokaze imam, na osnovu cega to govorim itd

[MarlboroGold]

Dead Sea: Biblical wonder is facing 'environmental disaster in slow motion'
https://news.sky.com/story/shrinking-de ... e-HPcUC6es

kada ovo jezero presusi ocekujte Dedzala i Isusa Krista na zemlji a samim tim i skoriji Smak svijeta.

Ovo je vrh

Nisi ništa bolji od onih što su govorili da će 2000-te ili 2012-e biti smak svijeta

[broj dva]

Zato što ne razumiješ pojam "dokaz" što je dokazano tvojim stavovima o evoluciji, brojčanim "čudima" kurana i kroz tvoj opus na forumu.

[MarlboroGold]

Kako ono on kaže... dokaz za vjerovanje

[Ramzess Veliki]

Mog imenjaka? Prema period kad se desio exodus to je bilo u doba Rammesesa Drugog.

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Ne da mi se vala sve slusat kad ocito nema veze sa realnoscu I naucnim dokazima.
Evo ti zvanicna historija pa objasni nam sam ko koga malta … Umro u 90-toj godini I nigdje u egipatskim zapisima se ne spominje nikakva posast, posebno ne tih razmjera da je umrlo svako prvorodjeno dijete, sto bi da se desilo svakako bilo uklesano u kamenu ili u arhivama koje su uredno vodjene u to vrijeme.
Death and legacy
By the time of his death, aged about 90 years, Ramesses was suffering from severe dental problems and was plagued by arthritis and hardening of the arteries.[65] He had made Egypt rich from all the supplies and riches he had collected from other empires. He had outlived many of his wives and children and left great memorials all over Egypt. Nine more pharaohs took the name Ramesses in his honour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_II

I sta kazu utusio se, voda ga izbacila …

[King Theoden]

Ramesses

Ramo? Kakav crni ramo? Nemoj nas miješati sa kršćanima. Mi muslimani ne kažemo da je ramo taj koji se ugušio, nego jedan drugi.

[Smrcak15]

Mog imenjaka? Prema period kad se desio exodus to je bilo u doba Rammesesa Drugog.

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Ne da mi se vala sve slusat kad ocito nema veze sa realnoscu I naucnim dokazima.
Evo ti zvanicna historija pa objasni nam sam ko koga malta … Umro u 90-toj godini I nigdje u egipatskim zapisima se ne spominje nikakva posast, posebno ne tih razmjera da je umrlo svako prvorodjeno dijete, sto bi da se desilo svakako bilo uklesano u kamenu ili u arhivama koje su uredno vodjene u to vrijeme.
Death and legacy
By the time of his death, aged about 90 years, Ramesses was suffering from severe dental problems and was plagued by arthritis and hardening of the arteries.[65] He had made Egypt rich from all the supplies and riches he had collected from other empires. He had outlived many of his wives and children and left great memorials all over Egypt. Nine more pharaohs took the name Ramesses in his honour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_II

I sta kazu utusio se, voda ga izbacila …

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_II

stani malo ba, ne zalijeci se, Ramses II je otac od Merneptah, Merneptah je faron koji se ugusio pa ga poslije balzamovali i kao mumiju odradili.

[Smrcak15]

Poslanik, sallalahu alejhi we sellem, kaže: “Ko ujutro pojede 7 osušenih hurmi, tog dana mu ne mogu naštetiti sihir i otrov.” (prenosi Ebu Davud)

sta nauka kaze za ovo

Therapeutic effects of date fruits (Phoenix dactylifera) in the prevention of diseases via modulation of anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant and anti-tumour activity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3992385/



Antioxidant activity is recognized due to the wide range of phenolic compounds present in dates including p-coumaric, ferulic, and sinapic acids, flavonoids, and procyanidins [10,11]. Other study showed that palm date fruits constitutes thirteen flavonoid glycosides of luteolin, quercetin, and apigenin at different stages of maturity [12,13]. Ajwa, types of dates that is only cultivated in Saudi Arabia/Al-Madinah Al-Munawara and have significant value in several types of diseases cure and also show protective role in hepatic toxicity [14]....

Study on Ajwa showed a protective effect and ameliorated the lesions of Ochratoxin nephero toxicity which might lead to kidney failure [54]. An experimental study reported that severity of the histological lesions as well as the serum levels of total bilirubin and ALT enzyme activity were greatly reduced in rats pre-treated with Ajwa dates extract before ochratoxin A(OTA), compared with OTA-treated rats [14].

The date’s constituents show a vital effect in the inhibition of phase I enzymes such as CYP450 and enhance the activity of phase II enzyme. An experimental study showed that the antigenotoxicity of date pits is due to its ability to scavenge the alkyl radical or inhibit the aromatase activity of cytochrome P-450 or blocking the reaction between methane diazonium ion and DNA [55].

Anti-oxidant activity
Antioxidants are chemicals/materials that interact and deactivate the free radicals, therefore preventing them from causing harm. The prevention of actions of free radical is important step in the management of disease. Medicinal plants and their constituents play a vital and significant action to neutralize or inhibit the free radical by the use of antioxidant activity. Experimental studies support the role of reactive oxygen species in cancer and dietary antioxidants as well as endogenous antioxidants shows a vital role as cancer preventive agents via neutralization of reactive oxygen species [28,29]. Another study also showed that plant phenolic compounds including flavonoids are effective antioxidants with reported anti-mutagenic and anti-carcinogenic effects [30,31]. Dates fruits have high composition of carbohydrates, salts and minerals, dietary fibre, vitamins, fatty acids and amino acid gives a unique value in human nutrition [25]. On the Other side, date pit powders are a source of choice to people preferring a non-caffeinated coffee with coffee-related flavor [32]. Date palms play a significant role in neutralization of free radical and finally suppress the various types of diseases development and progression. Earlier investigation found that palm date has a potent ability to suppress free radicals [33,34].

A recent report showed that aqueous extracts of dates have antioxidant, antimicrobial and anti-mutagenic activity [10,35-37]. An important finding showed that dates constitutes good source of antioxidant [38] and another study has shown that dates have the highest concentration of polyphenols among the dried fruits [39]. The antioxidant activity of phenolic compounds is a result of their redox properties, which can play an important role in absorbing and neutralizing free radicals [40]. Phytochemical show significant antioxidant capacities and antioxidant capability in lowering the prevalence and lower mortality rates of cancer [41].

Another finding in the support of dates as antioxidant reported that dates are a good source of antioxidants due to the carotenoids and phenolics with quantity 3942 mg/100 g and antioxidants constituents 80400 μmol/100 g [13]. A recent study examined the antioxidant activities in different type of dates such as Fard, Khasab and Khalas and showed that Khalas is measured to be best quality, had higher antioxidant activity, total carotenoids, and bound phenolic acids than other types of dates [33].

An important study based on special type of dates; has shown significant antioxidant activity and caused a significant reversal of the lead-induced changes in the oxidative biomarkers in serum and also Ajwa dated extract has a tissue protective effect via a free radical scavenging and antioxidant properties [42].

Another study has shown that polyphenol concentration in different types of dates and total polyphenols in Ajaw dates water extract (455.88 mg/100 g) was the highest as compared to other verities such as sukkari (377.66 mg/100 g) and khalas (238.54 mg/100 g) and same pattern were noticed in alcohol extract as high polyphenol in Ajwa dates [43].

[Ramzess Veliki]

stani malo ba, ne zalijeci se, Ramses II je otac od Merneptah, Merneptah je faron koji se ugusio pa ga poslije balzamovali i kao mumiju odradili.

Fakat? E sad moram opet citat …

[Sara03]

i onda mi neko dodje i kaze, evolucija je to sve

Kažu oni koji se nešto pitaju i znaju, za razliku od selefija sa oskudnim pravopisom i općom naobrazbom, te njihovom garniturom "stručnjaka" za koje haman niko nije čuo. U stvari, lažem. Uz tebe još i cijelih pet kreacionista iz Alabame.

de ti nama onda pojasni ovdje kako nastade ovi nanoroboti Kinesin, Dinein i Miosin.

ako tako volis da osporis onda sigurno imas i odgovor na ovo pitanje

Štošta su ti objasnili i obrazovaniji i pametniji od mene. Ali nema te sile ni tog znanja koje bi tebe ubjedilo u suprotno, makar se radilo i o najtrivijalnijim stvarima. U to smo se uvjerili više puta.

puno zujite a malo meda dajete, ja zujim a bogami i meda dajem.

Ni trunka samokritičnosti. Nikad, ama baš.

[Smrcak15]

stani malo ba, ne zalijeci se, Ramses II je otac od Merneptah, Merneptah je faron koji se ugusio pa ga poslije balzamovali i kao mumiju odradili.

Fakat? E sad moram opet citat …

ne trebas citati nego gledaj dokumentarac

[broj dva]

Poslanik, sallalahu alejhi we sellem, kaže: “Ko ujutro pojede 7 osušenih hurmi, tog dana mu ne mogu naštetiti sihir i otrov.” (prenosi Ebu Davud)

sta nauka kaze za ovo

Therapeutic effects of date fruits (Phoenix dactylifera) in the prevention of diseases via modulation of anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant and anti-tumour activity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3992385/



Antioxidant activity is recognized due to the wide range of phenolic compounds present in dates including p-coumaric, ferulic, and sinapic acids, flavonoids, and procyanidins [10,11]. Other study showed that palm date fruits constitutes thirteen flavonoid glycosides of luteolin, quercetin, and apigenin at different stages of maturity [12,13]. Ajwa, types of dates that is only cultivated in Saudi Arabia/Al-Madinah Al-Munawara and have significant value in several types of diseases cure and also show protective role in hepatic toxicity [14]....

Study on Ajwa showed a protective effect and ameliorated the lesions of Ochratoxin nephero toxicity which might lead to kidney failure [54]. An experimental study reported that severity of the histological lesions as well as the serum levels of total bilirubin and ALT enzyme activity were greatly reduced in rats pre-treated with Ajwa dates extract before ochratoxin A(OTA), compared with OTA-treated rats [14].

The date’s constituents show a vital effect in the inhibition of phase I enzymes such as CYP450 and enhance the activity of phase II enzyme. An experimental study showed that the antigenotoxicity of date pits is due to its ability to scavenge the alkyl radical or inhibit the aromatase activity of cytochrome P-450 or blocking the reaction between methane diazonium ion and DNA [55].

Anti-oxidant activity
Antioxidants are chemicals/materials that interact and deactivate the free radicals, therefore preventing them from causing harm. The prevention of actions of free radical is important step in the management of disease. Medicinal plants and their constituents play a vital and significant action to neutralize or inhibit the free radical by the use of antioxidant activity. Experimental studies support the role of reactive oxygen species in cancer and dietary antioxidants as well as endogenous antioxidants shows a vital role as cancer preventive agents via neutralization of reactive oxygen species [28,29]. Another study also showed that plant phenolic compounds including flavonoids are effective antioxidants with reported anti-mutagenic and anti-carcinogenic effects [30,31]. Dates fruits have high composition of carbohydrates, salts and minerals, dietary fibre, vitamins, fatty acids and amino acid gives a unique value in human nutrition [25]. On the Other side, date pit powders are a source of choice to people preferring a non-caffeinated coffee with coffee-related flavor [32]. Date palms play a significant role in neutralization of free radical and finally suppress the various types of diseases development and progression. Earlier investigation found that palm date has a potent ability to suppress free radicals [33,34].

A recent report showed that aqueous extracts of dates have antioxidant, antimicrobial and anti-mutagenic activity [10,35-37]. An important finding showed that dates constitutes good source of antioxidant [38] and another study has shown that dates have the highest concentration of polyphenols among the dried fruits [39]. The antioxidant activity of phenolic compounds is a result of their redox properties, which can play an important role in absorbing and neutralizing free radicals [40]. Phytochemical show significant antioxidant capacities and antioxidant capability in lowering the prevalence and lower mortality rates of cancer [41].

Another finding in the support of dates as antioxidant reported that dates are a good source of antioxidants due to the carotenoids and phenolics with quantity 3942 mg/100 g and antioxidants constituents 80400 μmol/100 g [13]. A recent study examined the antioxidant activities in different type of dates such as Fard, Khasab and Khalas and showed that Khalas is measured to be best quality, had higher antioxidant activity, total carotenoids, and bound phenolic acids than other types of dates [33].

An important study based on special type of dates; has shown significant antioxidant activity and caused a significant reversal of the lead-induced changes in the oxidative biomarkers in serum and also Ajwa dated extract has a tissue protective effect via a free radical scavenging and antioxidant properties [42].

Another study has shown that polyphenol concentration in different types of dates and total polyphenols in Ajaw dates water extract (455.88 mg/100 g) was the highest as compared to other verities such as sukkari (377.66 mg/100 g) and khalas (238.54 mg/100 g) and same pattern were noticed in alcohol extract as high polyphenol in Ajwa dates [43].

Hajde ovako, ti jedi koliko hoćeš datula a ja ću te trovati. Da bude fer neću koristiti sintetičke otrove nego samo prirpidne samo sa bliskog istoka. Pa da empirijski testiramo rječi " proroka".

[HardcoreMX]

ateizam vs religija...nije to sve bas tako crno-bijelo...ima i obojenog, sto bi rekli namazanog...pod sirim pojmom, ali i uzim teoloskim, socioloskim iako se takodjer ubraja kao vrsta ateizma odnosno nevjernika ipak je poznat kao zaseban pojam licemjer, munafik, hypocrite...ta rijec moze dobiti i druge termine..recimo u danasnjem internet rijecnikom u komparativnom smislu vrlo praktican primjer zove se klon...napravi vise lica odnosno nikova i predstavlja se i vodi spiku sad ovu san onu ovisi kako mu pase...dakle sustina ostaje ista samo se termin mijenja..jezik evoluira..to je cinjenica..

[Smrcak15]

....

Štošta su ti objasnili i obrazovaniji i pametniji od mene. Ali nema te sile ni tog znanja koje bi tebe ubjedilo u suprotno, makar se radilo i o najtrivijalnijim stvarima. U to smo se uvjerili više puta.

pa mogu i ja naprimjer reci svojoj maloj curici, de bogati objasni pitanje koje su mi postavili na forumu, i ona sto objasni ja vama napisem i kazem, vidite dobili ste pojasnjenje

razumijes li poentu ovdje???

To sto ste objasnjavali ni pas sa maslom ne bi pojeo, znaci uopste nije logicno da bi se uzelo u razmatranje, kada doneses validan dokaz , argument, onda moze se uzeti u ozbiljno, a do tada ne mogu prihvatiti u koliko nije pojasnjeno sa argumentom i dokazom da valja.

Ni trunka samokritičnosti. Nikad, ama baš.

pa ja licno pokusavam da nadjem rupe u svojim argumentima, gledam ima li nelogicnosti, stavim se u poziciju ateiste i pokusavam da napadam svoje argumente posto od vas ovdje nema plaho kvalitetnog meda, puno se zuji a malo meda daje i to nekvalitetan

kada nadjem gresku , ili falinku ili rupu u argumentu onda ga odbacujem i nekoristim vise.

[Smrcak15]

Poslanik, sallalahu alejhi we sellem, kaže: “Ko ujutro pojede 7 osušenih hurmi, tog dana mu ne mogu naštetiti sihir i otrov.” (prenosi Ebu Davud)

sta nauka kaze za ovo

Therapeutic effects of date fruits (Phoenix dactylifera) in the prevention of diseases via modulation of anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant and anti-tumour activity
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3992385/



Antioxidant activity is recognized due to the wide range of phenolic compounds present in dates including p-coumaric, ferulic, and sinapic acids, flavonoids, and procyanidins [10,11]. Other study showed that palm date fruits constitutes thirteen flavonoid glycosides of luteolin, quercetin, and apigenin at different stages of maturity [12,13]. Ajwa, types of dates that is only cultivated in Saudi Arabia/Al-Madinah Al-Munawara and have significant value in several types of diseases cure and also show protective role in hepatic toxicity [14]....

Study on Ajwa showed a protective effect and ameliorated the lesions of Ochratoxin nephero toxicity which might lead to kidney failure [54]. An experimental study reported that severity of the histological lesions as well as the serum levels of total bilirubin and ALT enzyme activity were greatly reduced in rats pre-treated with Ajwa dates extract before ochratoxin A(OTA), compared with OTA-treated rats [14].

The date’s constituents show a vital effect in the inhibition of phase I enzymes such as CYP450 and enhance the activity of phase II enzyme. An experimental study showed that the antigenotoxicity of date pits is due to its ability to scavenge the alkyl radical or inhibit the aromatase activity of cytochrome P-450 or blocking the reaction between methane diazonium ion and DNA [55].

Anti-oxidant activity
Antioxidants are chemicals/materials that interact and deactivate the free radicals, therefore preventing them from causing harm. The prevention of actions of free radical is important step in the management of disease. Medicinal plants and their constituents play a vital and significant action to neutralize or inhibit the free radical by the use of antioxidant activity. Experimental studies support the role of reactive oxygen species in cancer and dietary antioxidants as well as endogenous antioxidants shows a vital role as cancer preventive agents via neutralization of reactive oxygen species [28,29]. Another study also showed that plant phenolic compounds including flavonoids are effective antioxidants with reported anti-mutagenic and anti-carcinogenic effects [30,31]. Dates fruits have high composition of carbohydrates, salts and minerals, dietary fibre, vitamins, fatty acids and amino acid gives a unique value in human nutrition [25]. On the Other side, date pit powders are a source of choice to people preferring a non-caffeinated coffee with coffee-related flavor [32]. Date palms play a significant role in neutralization of free radical and finally suppress the various types of diseases development and progression. Earlier investigation found that palm date has a potent ability to suppress free radicals [33,34].

A recent report showed that aqueous extracts of dates have antioxidant, antimicrobial and anti-mutagenic activity [10,35-37]. An important finding showed that dates constitutes good source of antioxidant [38] and another study has shown that dates have the highest concentration of polyphenols among the dried fruits [39]. The antioxidant activity of phenolic compounds is a result of their redox properties, which can play an important role in absorbing and neutralizing free radicals [40]. Phytochemical show significant antioxidant capacities and antioxidant capability in lowering the prevalence and lower mortality rates of cancer [41].

Another finding in the support of dates as antioxidant reported that dates are a good source of antioxidants due to the carotenoids and phenolics with quantity 3942 mg/100 g and antioxidants constituents 80400 μmol/100 g [13]. A recent study examined the antioxidant activities in different type of dates such as Fard, Khasab and Khalas and showed that Khalas is measured to be best quality, had higher antioxidant activity, total carotenoids, and bound phenolic acids than other types of dates [33].

An important study based on special type of dates; has shown significant antioxidant activity and caused a significant reversal of the lead-induced changes in the oxidative biomarkers in serum and also Ajwa dated extract has a tissue protective effect via a free radical scavenging and antioxidant properties [42].

Another study has shown that polyphenol concentration in different types of dates and total polyphenols in Ajaw dates water extract (455.88 mg/100 g) was the highest as compared to other verities such as sukkari (377.66 mg/100 g) and khalas (238.54 mg/100 g) and same pattern were noticed in alcohol extract as high polyphenol in Ajwa dates [43].

Hajde ovako, ti jedi koliko hoćeš datula a ja ću te trovati. Da bude fer neću koristiti sintetičke otrove nego samo prirpidne samo sa bliskog istoka. Pa da empirijski testiramo rječi " proroka".

a zasto ti ne udjes na link i procitas sta istrazivaci kazu, a pusti mi se amaterizma, ja cu te trovati ti se brani kako znas i umjes nisam toliko izgovorio po glavi da na sebi testiram, testira se na drugome, tj. na miseve stetocine naprimjer, i radis experimente na njima....a koja to hablecina ce na sebi testirati otrove

[King Theoden]

Hajde ovako, ti jedi koliko hoćeš datula a ja ću te trovati. Da bude fer neću koristiti sintetičke otrove nego samo prirpidne samo sa bliskog istoka. Pa da empirijski testiramo rječi " proroka".

Ako je ulema saglasna da se radi o vjerodostojnom hadisu, slobodno testiraj na meni.
Donesi koji god hoćeš otrov.

[Ramzess Veliki]

stani malo ba, ne zalijeci se, Ramses II je otac od Merneptah, Merneptah je faron koji se ugusio pa ga poslije balzamovali i kao mumiju odradili.

Fakat? E sad moram opet citat …

ne trebas citati nego gledaj dokumentarac

[broj dva]

Hajde ovako, ti jedi koliko hoćeš datula a ja ću te trovati. Da bude fer neću koristiti sintetičke otrove nego samo prirpidne samo sa bliskog istoka. Pa da empirijski testiramo rječi " proroka".

Ako je ulema saglasna da se radi o vjerodostojnom hadisu, slobodno testiraj na meni.
Donesi koji god hoćeš otrov.

Kud svi turci tu i mali Dino, pa i u provaliju ako treba.
Bogami nisam mislio da ću ovo ikada reći ali ugledaj se na hazretli smrčka, on je stao i razmislio i skonto da test-dva ne mogu naškoditi...

[славянин]

Hajde ovako, ti jedi koliko hoćeš datula a ja ću te trovati. Da bude fer neću koristiti sintetičke otrove nego samo prirpidne samo sa bliskog istoka. Pa da empirijski testiramo rječi " proroka".

Ako je ulema saglasna da se radi o vjerodostojnom hadisu, slobodno testiraj na meni.
Donesi koji god hoćeš otrov.

Prirodna selekcija na djelu.

[GAU8]

Hajde ovako, ti jedi koliko hoćeš datula a ja ću te trovati. Da bude fer neću koristiti sintetičke otrove nego samo prirpidne samo sa bliskog istoka. Pa da empirijski testiramo rječi " proroka".

Ako je ulema saglasna da se radi o vjerodostojnom hadisu, slobodno testiraj na meni.
Donesi koji god hoćeš otrov.

Ne kontam zasto se mora traziti naucna potvrda hadisa. Razumijem za "Boziju rijec" ali zar hadisi nisu zapravo izjave od poslanika, tj covjeka. To je njegov stav i misljenje i nije nuzno da mora biti tacno. Cemu trazenje kojekakvih naucnih argumenata?