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Kikibombona wrote:
Young Erotica wrote:
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Bret Mekgurk i Jozef Votel su neki dan bili u Raki. Amerika stalno donira mehanizaciju, placa razne humanitarne i druge organizacije, obnavlja skole i bolnice itd. To su desetine miliona dolara, sitnis. Amerikanci su otvoreno porucili, ZA OBNOVU RAKE SU POTREBNE MILIJARDE. I otvoreno kazu, mk to sami necemo i ne mozemo uraditi, pozivamo zapadne i arapske prijatelje da to uradimo zajedno.

A te ugovore okaci macku o rep, ja sam se za svoj ihi hi godina u BiH naslusao podosta o tim ugovorima...

Dje su pare?
Vec sam postavljao snimak iz Rake, kako ide obnova i sta su dobili a to je jedno veliko nista, sad dal da verujem tebi ili video snimku na kom covek sa porodicom pokušava da napravi krov nad glavom u tom gradu duhova.

Ugovori su potpisani,ne vidim razlog zasto Kina ne bi dala kredit Siriji,gladni su svih trzista sada sto si ti skeptičan zbog sopstvene agende je druga tema.
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Nadzornik wrote:Veliki planovi Sultana Erdogana Velicanstvenog.

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Nisu to njegovi planovi. Ti planovi su stariji od AKP koji je konstrukt vanturskih krugova koji su osmislili takve projekcije. Više puta sam pisao, želim PONOVO DA NAGLASIM: Osporavanje razgraniučenja sa susjedima - po osnovu Ugovora iz Lozane - može, eventualno, proći u natezanju sa Sirijom i Irakom,

ali,

pretenzije prema Kipru ili Grčkoj bi bila najveća greška od upada Turaka u Malu Aziju.



Duboko sam uvjeren, a želim da to uđe u zapisnik, da bi to bila nepopravljiva, fatalna greška.
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Nadam se da tu grešku neće napraviti.
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VIDEO - Kurdi upucali turski balon tenk :D :D

ode jedan Toophan djaba, na tenk na napuhavanje (decoy tank)

Kako fino puce, ko za novu godinu :izet:

a ovi happy nisu ni skontali : Biji, Biji, Biji :D

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Ma kakvi pretenzije prema Grckoj i ostatku Kipra, moras biti budala veca od Seselja da pomislis na to. Do toga moze doci samo u slucaju svjetskog rata. Odnosno, u slucaju da vise niko nikog ne sljivi dva posto. Do toga ce doci, al ne uskoro. Erdo jeste jajara, al nije budala ...
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#100181 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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swanfilter wrote:Kakvih, bre, stotine milijona za onu selendru u nedođiji. Ti stvarno pretjerujes ...
Evo izjave Abadija iz Davosa!

Iraq Calls on Investors to Help $100 Billion Reconstruction Drive

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/artic ... 00-billion

Abadi je normalan i racionalan covjek za razliku od siitskih degenerika iz Hashd al-Shabija koji uzimaju mrvice od Irana dok se narod valja u blatu.

Ako Irak ne dobije pare, eto rata jos goreg za 5-10 godina.

Abadi otvoreno kaze da oni te pare NEMAJU.

Mosul, Faludza, Ramadi ili Raka - sve je to isto.

Za obnovu Rake je sigurno potrebno par milijardi u periodu od recimo 10 godina. Ne radi se samo o obnovi porusenog, potrebno je zaposliti 500 000 ljudi iz Rake i okoline. A gdje je DeZ?

Sve je poruseno i pokradeno. Skoro da krecu od nule a to kosta ubitacno puno.

Kada je rat, ljudi prihvataju bijedu i budu zadovoljni sa jednim obrokom dnevno. Pro-asadovski novinar kaze da je u Alepu jadna situacija. Renomirani doktor je potrosio posljednje zalihe ustedjevine. Sve je unisteno i pokradeno. A znamo ko ili bolje reci 'sta' isplivava na povrsinu nakon rata.

Ako je Iraku potrebno 100 mlijardi, Siriji je mozda potrebno 200, ako uzmemo u obzir da je sirijska katastrofa neuporedivo gora.

Narod se nece pomiriti sa patnjom i jadnim zivotom. U ratu gledas da prezivis, u miru zelis zivjeti normalan zivot, dostojan covjeka. Ako Sirija ne krene putem napretka, eto novog rata. Ili ce Asad odabrati taktiku da sve pare usmjeri u represivni aparat i da svaki vid nezadovoljstva smrcu kaznjava kao opomenu ostalima!???
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swanfilter wrote:Ma kakvi pretenzije prema Grckoj i ostatku Kipra, moras biti budala veca od Seselja da pomislis na to. Do toga moze doci samo u slucaju svjetskog rata. Odnosno, u slucaju da vise niko nikog ne sljivi dva posto. Do toga ce doci, al ne uskoro. Erdo jeste jajara, al nije budala ...
Ne kažem da jeste (budala) i to je pokazao i dokazao za sada. Međutim, danas jesi a sutra nisi a planovi su na stolu. Zato su ga, uostalom i probali eliminisati (propali državni udar).

- Turska potentnost je zapažena i određeni krugovi žele da je eksploatišu: prema Magrebu i Bliskom istoku (Siriji i Iraku, neuspjelo), prema turkijskim narodima centralne Azije (bivše sovjetske republike, Rusija, Kina, projekat u opadanju sa zatezanjem odnosa sa USA i Izraelom) i prema Evropi, kao način potpune redefinicije evropskog kontinenta po mjeri specifičnih, izuzetno moćnih krugova.

- Međutim, tim planovima oponiraju isti oni krugovi koji štite Siriju.


Ovo što su uradili u Siriji je nula, ništa, u odnosu na kapapcitete koje bi uložili da spriječe takav scenario.
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#100183 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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Izbjeglička/imigrantska saga je indikativan primjer tog angažmana. Nisu Grci, Makedonci, Srbi i Hrvati ljude usmjerili prema Njemaćkoj, već služba primarnih sirijskih zaštitnika.

Jedni su ljude prebacivali na grčka ostrva i kopno (kao predtekst stvaranja krize), a drugi su ih, preko Makedonije, Srbije i Hrvatske liferovali u centralnu, sjevernu i zapadnu Evropu.

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Prosječan građanin nema ni približnu predstavu kakve se prljave igre igraju i koliko se spremno ići daleko, najdalje.
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#100184 Re: Sirija vol. 2

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muhafuca wrote:Pa onda je valjda i 50ak zgrada ili 10ak kilometara asfalta tu i tamo, koje je Sirija izgradila (dok jos rat traje) vrijedno pomena, a ne pišanja to tome.

Nije ni Sirija Svicarska. Devastirana zemlja - trebace i njima mozda 50ak godina da se dignu iz pepela, zbog lokalnih idiota koji su popusili Americku i Saudijsku pricu pa krenuli u otkidanje kolaca za sebe. Al sta god se uradi, pogotovo dok rat jos nije ni zavrsen, Elhamdulillah.
Rekoh ti, to se zove 'entuzijazam'. Naravno da je za pohvalu. Al' to sto je do sada uradjeno je 0,01% posla, tj. skoro pa nista. Isto vazi za Kurde u Kobaniju. Entuzijazam. Za nesto vise potrebne su investicije, stotine miliona dolara. Kurdi te pare nemaju niti ce imati u skorijoj buducnosti.

Amerikanci ulazu milione u Raku na razne nacine. To su sve sitnice. Obnova uopste nije pocela. Sami Amerikanci kazu da ce u Rake i okolinu morati upumpati par milijardi ako ne zele da se terorizam vrati. I odmah kazu da sami nece i ne zele raditi, vec ocekuju pomoc zapada i zaljevskih monarhija. Najavljuju 'konferenciju za Raku'. A to je samo obnova. Bice izazov zaposliti par stotina hiljada ljudi. Gdje i kako? Sve poruseno i pokradeno. Dakle, potrebne su investicije vrijedne milijarde dolara u narednih 10-ak godina...

A sta tek reci za ostatak Sirije?

Ako neko misli da ce Rusija, Kina i Iran dati pare, stvarno je budala. Zivjet u BiH i tome se nadati moze samo glup covjek. Na stranu sto Rusi i Iranci uopste nemaju pare, i sami imaju problem sa losim standardom i velikim brojem nezaposlenih. A Kinezi furaju svoj interes, ne daju ni centa dzabulesku.

Ako se Sirijci ne izmire i prihvate jedni druge, brzo ce uslijediti novi rat. Sirija ima mlsdo stanovnistvo. Premlado. Prava tempirana bomba kada se sve uzme u obzir.
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Turski vojni konvoj u pratnji boraca HTŠ-a konačno stigao na 'Tell Al Eis' u južnoj okolini Haleba. Dio konvoja nastavio put prema naselju 'Selamin' koje se nalazi istočno od Saraqiba, kojeg su Rusi jučer i danas silovito bombardovali.
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Kakve milione o cemu pricas ti?
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borci HTŠ-a
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Anihilacija terorista širom provincije Idlib :gunjastajl:

"Since the predawn hours and ongoing even now, every serviceable warplane at every military aerodrome in Syria has been put into the sky and given a target in eastern Idlib.

All kinds of munitions are being used – cannon, bombs (unguided and guided), rockets and missiles – to attack militant positions, convoys, bases, checkpoints and gatherings via a range of missions including tactical strike, interdiction and strategic bombardment."

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Kako EU zajebaše ovde,a oni se i dalje guraju u problem.

http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/30-j ... be-done-in
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Zlikovac i ratni zločinac Bešar Al Asad, odgovoran za najveće masakre hemijskim oružjem u Siriji:

Exclusive: Tests link Syrian government stockpile to largest sarin attack - sources

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THE HAGUE (Reuters) - The Syrian government’s chemical weapons stockpile has been linked for the first time by laboratory tests to the largest sarin nerve agent attack of the civil war, diplomats and scientists told Reuters, supporting Western claims that government forces under President Bashar al-Assad were behind the atrocity.

Laboratories working for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons compared samples taken by a U.N. mission in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta after the Aug. 21, 2013 attack, when hundreds of civilians died of sarin gas poisoning, to chemicals handed over by Damascus for destruction in 2014.

(For a graphic on chemical attacks click tmsnrt.rs/2pKDWOY )

The tests found “markers” in samples taken at Ghouta and at the sites of two other nerve agent attacks, in the towns of Khan Sheikhoun in Idlib governorate on April 4, 2017 and Khan al-Assal, Aleppo, in March 2013, two people involved in the process said.

“We compared Khan Sheikhoun, Khan al-Assal, Ghouta,” said one source who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the findings. “There were signatures in all three of them that matched.”

The same test results were the basis for a report by the OPCW-United Nations Joint Investigative Mechanism in October which said the Syrian government was responsible for the Khan Sheikhoun attack, which killed dozens.

The findings on Ghouta, whose details were confirmed to Reuters by two separate diplomatic sources, were not released in the October report to the U.N. Security Council because they were not part of the team’s mandate.

They will nonetheless bolster claims by the United States, Britain and other Western powers that Assad’s government still possesses and uses banned munitions in violation of several Security Council resolutions and the Chemical Weapons Convention.

The OPCW declined to comment. Syria has repeatedly denied using chemical weapons in the conflict now in its seventh year and has blamed the chemical attacks in the rebel-held territory of Ghouta on the insurgents themselves.

Russia has also denied that Syrian government forces have carried out chemical attacks and has questioned the reliability of the OCPW inquiries. Officials in Moscow have said the rebels staged the attacks to discredit the Assad government and whip up international condemnation.

Under a U.S.-Russian deal after the Ghouta attack in 2013, Damascus joined the OPCW and agreed to permanently eliminate its chemical weapons program, including destroying a 1,300-tonne stockpile of industrial precursors that has now been linked to the Ghouta attack.

But inspectors have found proof of an ongoing chemical weapons program in Syria, including the systematic use of chlorine barrel bombs and sarin, which they say was ordered at the highest levels of government.

The sarin attack on Khan Sheikhoun in April last year prompted U.S. President Donald Trump to order a missile strike against the Shayrat air base, from which the Syrian operation is said to have been launched.

Diplomatic and scientific sources said efforts by Syria and Russia to discredit the U.N.-OPCW tests establishing a connection to Ghouta have so far come up with nothing.

Russia’s blocking of resolutions at the Security Council seeking accountability for war crimes in Syria gained new relevance when Russia stationed its aircraft at Shayrat in 2015.

Washington fired missiles at Shayrat in April 2017, saying the Syrian air force used it to stage the Khan Sheikhoun sarin attack on April 4 a few days earlier, killing more than 80 people.

No Russian military assets are believed to have been hit, but Moscow warned at the time it could have serious consequences.

In June, the Pentagon said it had seen what appeared to be preparations for another chemical attack at the same airfield, prompting Russia to say it would respond proportionately if Washington took pre-emptive measures against Syrian forces there.

“SERIOUS LAB WORK”

The chemical tests were carried out at the request of the U.N.-OPCW inquiry, which was searching for potential links between the stockpile and samples from Khan Sheikhoun. The analysis results raised the possibility that they would provide a link to other sarin attacks, the source said.

Two compounds in the Ghouta sample matched those also found in Khan Sheikhoun, one formed from sarin and the stabilizer hexamine and another specific fluorophosphate that appears during sarin production, the tests showed.

“Like in all science, it should be repeated a couple of times, but it was serious matching and serious laboratory work,” the source said.

Independent experts, however, said the findings are the strongest scientific evidence to date that the Syrian government was behind Ghouta, the deadliest chemical weapons attack since the Halabja massacres of 1988 during the Iran-Iraq war.

“A match of samples from the 2013 Ghouta attacks to tests of chemicals in the Syrian stockpile is the equivalent of DNA evidence: definitive proof,” said Amy Smithson, a U.S. nonproliferation expert.

The hexamine finding “is a particularly significant match,” Smithson said, because it is a chemical identified as a unique hallmark of the Syrian military’s process to make sarin.

“This match adds to the mountain of physical evidence that points conclusively, without a shadow of doubt, to the Syrian government,” she said.

NO CHANCE REBELS BEHIND GHOUTA
Smithson and other sources familiar with the matter said it would have been virtually impossible for the rebels to carry out a coordinated, large-scale strike with poisonous munitions, even if they had been able to steal the chemicals from the government’s stockpile.

“I don’t think there is a cat in hell’s chance that rebels or Islamic State were responsible for the Aug. 21 Ghouta attack,” said Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, an independent specialist in biological and chemical weapons.

The U.N.-OPCW inquiry, which was disbanded in November after being blocked by Syria’s ally Russia at the U.N. Security Council, also found that Islamic State had used the less toxic blistering agent sulfur mustard gas on a small scale in Syria.

The Ghouta attack, by comparison, was textbook chemical warfare, Smithson and de Bretton-Gordon said, perfectly executed by forces trained to handle sarin, a toxin which is more difficult to use because it must be mixed just before delivery.

Surface-to-surface rockets delivered hundreds of liters of sarin in perfect weather conditions that made them as lethal as possible: low temperatures and wind in the early hours of the morning, when the gas would remain concentrated and kill sleeping victims, many of them children.

Pre-attack air raids with conventional bombs shattered windows and doors and drove people into shelters where the heavy poison seeped down into underground hiding places. Aerial bombing afterwards sought to destroy the evidence.

The large quantity of chemicals used, along with radar images of rocket traces showing they originated from Syrian Brigade positions, are further proof that the rebels could not have carried out the Ghouta attack, the experts said.

Reporting by Anthony Deutsch; editing by Giles Elgood

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Kikibombona wrote:
muhafuca wrote:Pa onda je valjda i 50ak zgrada ili 10ak kilometara asfalta tu i tamo, koje je Sirija izgradila (dok jos rat traje) vrijedno pomena, a ne pišanja to tome.

Nije ni Sirija Svicarska. Devastirana zemlja - trebace i njima mozda 50ak godina da se dignu iz pepela, zbog lokalnih idiota koji su popusili Americku i Saudijsku pricu pa krenuli u otkidanje kolaca za sebe. Al sta god se uradi, pogotovo dok rat jos nije ni zavrsen, Elhamdulillah.
Rekoh ti, to se zove 'entuzijazam'. Naravno da je za pohvalu. Al' to sto je do sada uradjeno je 0,01% posla, tj. skoro pa nista. Isto vazi za Kurde u Kobaniju. Entuzijazam. Za nesto vise potrebne su investicije, stotine miliona dolara. Kurdi te pare nemaju niti ce imati u skorijoj buducnosti.

Amerikanci ulazu milione u Raku na razne nacine. To su sve sitnice. Obnova uopste nije pocela. Sami Amerikanci kazu da ce u Rake i okolinu morati upumpati par milijardi ako ne zele da se terorizam vrati. I odmah kazu da sami nece i ne zele raditi, vec ocekuju pomoc zapada i zaljevskih monarhija. Najavljuju 'konferenciju za Raku'. A to je samo obnova. Bice izazov zaposliti par stotina hiljada ljudi. Gdje i kako? Sve poruseno i pokradeno. Dakle, potrebne su investicije vrijedne milijarde dolara u narednih 10-ak godina...

A sta tek reci za ostatak Sirije?

Ako neko misli da ce Rusija, Kina i Iran dati pare, stvarno je budala. Zivjet u BiH i tome se nadati moze samo glup covjek. Na stranu sto Rusi i Iranci uopste nemaju pare, i sami imaju problem sa losim standardom i velikim brojem nezaposlenih. A Kinezi furaju svoj interes, ne daju ni centa dzabulesku.

Ako se Sirijci ne izmire i prihvate jedni druge, brzo ce uslijediti novi rat. Sirija ima mlsdo stanovnistvo. Premlado. Prava tempirana bomba kada se sve uzme u obzir.

OK to je sve o tom po tom prica - bumo vidjeli kako sve se razvijati dok se rat zavrsi - puno se stvari promjenilo i u samom toku rata, a kamoli dok se rat zavrsi pa se stanje preslozi i vidi se ko ima volje ulagati a ko nema, ko ima pare a ko nema itd.

Rano je jos o tome pricati - puno je iznenadjenja i mijenjanja interesa bilo i do sada - ko zna sta ce biti nakon rata.
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sarajevoxxxx wrote:Zlikovac i ratni zločinac Bešar Al Asad, odgovoran za najveće masakre hemijskim oružjem u Siriji:

Exclusive: Tests link Syrian government stockpile to largest sarin attack - sources

Image

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syri ... ium=Social

THE HAGUE (Reuters) - The Syrian government’s chemical weapons stockpile has been linked for the first time by laboratory tests to the largest sarin nerve agent attack of the civil war, diplomats and scientists told Reuters, supporting Western claims that government forces under President Bashar al-Assad were behind the atrocity.

Laboratories working for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons compared samples taken by a U.N. mission in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta after the Aug. 21, 2013 attack, when hundreds of civilians died of sarin gas poisoning, to chemicals handed over by Damascus for destruction in 2014.

(For a graphic on chemical attacks click tmsnrt.rs/2pKDWOY )

The tests found “markers” in samples taken at Ghouta and at the sites of two other nerve agent attacks, in the towns of Khan Sheikhoun in Idlib governorate on April 4, 2017 and Khan al-Assal, Aleppo, in March 2013, two people involved in the process said.

“We compared Khan Sheikhoun, Khan al-Assal, Ghouta,” said one source who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of the findings. “There were signatures in all three of them that matched.”

The same test results were the basis for a report by the OPCW-United Nations Joint Investigative Mechanism in October which said the Syrian government was responsible for the Khan Sheikhoun attack, which killed dozens.

The findings on Ghouta, whose details were confirmed to Reuters by two separate diplomatic sources, were not released in the October report to the U.N. Security Council because they were not part of the team’s mandate.

They will nonetheless bolster claims by the United States, Britain and other Western powers that Assad’s government still possesses and uses banned munitions in violation of several Security Council resolutions and the Chemical Weapons Convention.

The OPCW declined to comment. Syria has repeatedly denied using chemical weapons in the conflict now in its seventh year and has blamed the chemical attacks in the rebel-held territory of Ghouta on the insurgents themselves.

Russia has also denied that Syrian government forces have carried out chemical attacks and has questioned the reliability of the OCPW inquiries. Officials in Moscow have said the rebels staged the attacks to discredit the Assad government and whip up international condemnation.

Under a U.S.-Russian deal after the Ghouta attack in 2013, Damascus joined the OPCW and agreed to permanently eliminate its chemical weapons program, including destroying a 1,300-tonne stockpile of industrial precursors that has now been linked to the Ghouta attack.

But inspectors have found proof of an ongoing chemical weapons program in Syria, including the systematic use of chlorine barrel bombs and sarin, which they say was ordered at the highest levels of government.

The sarin attack on Khan Sheikhoun in April last year prompted U.S. President Donald Trump to order a missile strike against the Shayrat air base, from which the Syrian operation is said to have been launched.

Diplomatic and scientific sources said efforts by Syria and Russia to discredit the U.N.-OPCW tests establishing a connection to Ghouta have so far come up with nothing.

Russia’s blocking of resolutions at the Security Council seeking accountability for war crimes in Syria gained new relevance when Russia stationed its aircraft at Shayrat in 2015.

Washington fired missiles at Shayrat in April 2017, saying the Syrian air force used it to stage the Khan Sheikhoun sarin attack on April 4 a few days earlier, killing more than 80 people.

No Russian military assets are believed to have been hit, but Moscow warned at the time it could have serious consequences.

In June, the Pentagon said it had seen what appeared to be preparations for another chemical attack at the same airfield, prompting Russia to say it would respond proportionately if Washington took pre-emptive measures against Syrian forces there.

“SERIOUS LAB WORK”

The chemical tests were carried out at the request of the U.N.-OPCW inquiry, which was searching for potential links between the stockpile and samples from Khan Sheikhoun. The analysis results raised the possibility that they would provide a link to other sarin attacks, the source said.

Two compounds in the Ghouta sample matched those also found in Khan Sheikhoun, one formed from sarin and the stabilizer hexamine and another specific fluorophosphate that appears during sarin production, the tests showed.

“Like in all science, it should be repeated a couple of times, but it was serious matching and serious laboratory work,” the source said.

Independent experts, however, said the findings are the strongest scientific evidence to date that the Syrian government was behind Ghouta, the deadliest chemical weapons attack since the Halabja massacres of 1988 during the Iran-Iraq war.

“A match of samples from the 2013 Ghouta attacks to tests of chemicals in the Syrian stockpile is the equivalent of DNA evidence: definitive proof,” said Amy Smithson, a U.S. nonproliferation expert.

The hexamine finding “is a particularly significant match,” Smithson said, because it is a chemical identified as a unique hallmark of the Syrian military’s process to make sarin.

“This match adds to the mountain of physical evidence that points conclusively, without a shadow of doubt, to the Syrian government,” she said.

NO CHANCE REBELS BEHIND GHOUTA
Smithson and other sources familiar with the matter said it would have been virtually impossible for the rebels to carry out a coordinated, large-scale strike with poisonous munitions, even if they had been able to steal the chemicals from the government’s stockpile.

“I don’t think there is a cat in hell’s chance that rebels or Islamic State were responsible for the Aug. 21 Ghouta attack,” said Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, an independent specialist in biological and chemical weapons.

The U.N.-OPCW inquiry, which was disbanded in November after being blocked by Syria’s ally Russia at the U.N. Security Council, also found that Islamic State had used the less toxic blistering agent sulfur mustard gas on a small scale in Syria.

The Ghouta attack, by comparison, was textbook chemical warfare, Smithson and de Bretton-Gordon said, perfectly executed by forces trained to handle sarin, a toxin which is more difficult to use because it must be mixed just before delivery.

Surface-to-surface rockets delivered hundreds of liters of sarin in perfect weather conditions that made them as lethal as possible: low temperatures and wind in the early hours of the morning, when the gas would remain concentrated and kill sleeping victims, many of them children.

Pre-attack air raids with conventional bombs shattered windows and doors and drove people into shelters where the heavy poison seeped down into underground hiding places. Aerial bombing afterwards sought to destroy the evidence.

The large quantity of chemicals used, along with radar images of rocket traces showing they originated from Syrian Brigade positions, are further proof that the rebels could not have carried out the Ghouta attack, the experts said.

Reporting by Anthony Deutsch; editing by Giles Elgood

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"Vjerodostojno" kao i američka tvrdnja o iračkom WMD.

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Ako žele da sruše vlast u Damasku, moraće da stave muda na panj i napadnu Ruse. Sve ostalo je trla baba lan.
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Challenger_ wrote:Ako žele da sruše vlast u Damasku, moraće da stave muda na panj i napadnu Ruse. Sve ostalo je trla baba lan.
:lol:

E moj Cheli. Briga Amere za Ruse, rade svoj posao lagano, sve svoje ciljeve ostvarili. Možda su Rusi ti koji će morati ozbiljnije napasti Amerikance ako žele sačuvati zlikovca.
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muhafuca wrote:OK to je sve o tom po tom prica - bumo vidjeli kako sve se razvijati dok se rat zavrsi - puno se stvari promjenilo i u samom toku rata, a kamoli dok se rat zavrsi pa se stanje preslozi i vidi se ko ima volje ulagati a ko nema, ko ima pare a ko nema itd.

Rano je jos o tome pricati - puno je iznenadjenja i mijenjanja interesa bilo i do sada - ko zna sta ce biti nakon rata.
Bice tesko preporoditi Siriju. Brojna populacija sa visokim natalitetom. Nisu malobrojni i bogati kao Libijci da se naftom i plinom mogu cupati. Sirija ima nafte i plina tek za vlastite potrebe i simbolican izvoz.

Posijana je velika mrznja. Daj boze da Sirija izbjegne sudbinu Iraka i da ne rokaju autobombe svako malo kada se konacno stavi potpis na mir. Irak tesko privlaci investitor radi nesigurnosti. Jedino naftasi dolaze, oni se nicega ne boje.

Vidjeli smo sta je bilo u Iranu. Mladi Iranci su bijesni radi nezaposlenosti i loseg standarda. Ne zele da se od njihovih usta odvaja za 'siitski polumjesec'. Rusija isto ima slab standard i dosta nezaposlenih. Ne mogu se razbacivati parama.

Sirija mora ostvariti uslove da investitori dodju. Kapital dolazim tamo gdje se moze oploditi. Niko ne daje pare teko onako. Ako ne vjerujes meni, pitaj Srbe koliko su dobili od Rusa ili Bosnjake koliko su dobili od Turaka.

Abadi u Davosu prakticno moli investitore da dodju u Irak. Covjek otvoreno kaze: 'treba nam 100 milijardi dolara i mi te novce nemamo'. I to je pravi politicar. Imam odredjeno postovanje za Abadija uprkos svemu. Ne zivi se od siitskog folklora. Neka paradiraju kreteni iz Hashd al-Shabija, ali neko treba donijeti pare. Saradnja sa Iranom je nuzna, ali ne moze Iran donijeti te novce. Imaju problem sa vlastitom bijedom i nezaposlenoscu. Rezim je dobio ozbiljnu opomenu i o sebi se mora zabaviti. Irak mora saradjivati sa svima, sa Iranom, Saudijom, Turskom, Rusijom, Amerikom, EU itd.

Ako se sirijski rezim opredjeli iskljucivo za Rusiju i Iran nece daleko dogurati. Jebat ce Asada oni koji su se za njega borili i kojima je obecao zlatne kasike. Sirija ima mlado stanovnistvo, ogromna energija za razliku od umiruceg Balkana.
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muhafuca wrote:
dragma wrote: Hajde forumski zgubidanu

ti 2676 od 19/02/2014

ja 2314 od 14/03/2012



eto ti nivo tvog rezonovanja i koliko uopste razmisljas o onome sto pises.

Ima li ti poente uopste drugo ista objasnjavati kad ti koliko vidim najjednostavnije informacije ne dopiru do mozga uopste.


plus ja sam na temi Sirija 99% jer me to interesuje a ti valjas gluposti gdje stignes.

samo nek se nesto tipka.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jadan ne bio ovo je forum, kakva te crna ozbiljnost snašla? :shock:

Izađi malo na zrak, nađi sebi društvo pa se ispričaj ko čovjek, otvori dušu... pomahnitaćeš bolan ovako glumeći vrsnog geopolitičara i piskarajući tamo nekakve kvazi analize i izvještaje sa mišlju da te neko uzima za ozbiljno :-)

Haj ponovi u sebi: "Internet je sporedna stvar, forum je zajebancija, razbibriga, mjesto gdje anonimusi inkognito pišu stvari koje uglavnom ne smiju na glas izgovoriti, napolju je pravi život, ljudi, druženje, žene, sex, droga i rock n roll".
I tako svaki dan, po nekoliko puta, vidjet ćeš, biće ti lakše ;-)
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Young Erotica wrote:
dragma wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Šibe ljakse, šibe...
Tako ovce mozda u svom selu mozes da teras mangupe.
Miiiirrraaaaaannnn....aport, sjedi!

Daj šapu..... :lol:
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Tri turska vojnika poginula u eksploziji u gradu Ataribu dok je konvoj bio na putu za "Tel Al Eis".
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mozda americkim tvrdnjaama niko vise i ne vjeruje, ali ljudi sa terena, uzbecki i ujgurski revolucionari , heroji Idliba, Hame i abu dhura tvrde da fasisti iz damaska, skoro svakodnevno krse zakone i obicaje ratovanja-njihove ispovjesti su zaista potresne
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