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#1001 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 17/09/2015 23:21
by Juliuscezar
archi_a wrote:
bhnapoleon1 wrote:Ti rece ono Archi da je vecina ispravnih 55ica kod nasih u Tuzli i da su ispravne :D
Nisam ni u jednom postu dijelio na nas i njih, a koliko znam nisam ni rekao da su 55-ce u Tuzli, nego da nisam siguran gdje su. :-? Na Dubravama su "amerikanci". Ispravi me ako grijesim. lp

Onda sam pomijesao, mislim nas, snage koje ce vecinom ostati na patriotskoj strani u slucaju belaja,.
Znaci m60- 45 tuzla- ispravni
m-84- 12 koriste se za vjezbe na manjaci
m-55 jesi li za njih govorio da je od 150 jedno 80 % ispravno ili sam opet se zajebo
Sta je sa francuzima

#1002 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 17/09/2015 23:25
by junior3
Napoleon ti si i oznake i brojeve fulao. :D

#1003 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 17/09/2015 23:44
by Juliuscezar
junior3 wrote:Napoleon ti si i oznake i brojeve fulao. :D
Da se ispravim
m60A3- 45- tuzla ispravan
m-84- 12- manjaca - uce se djeca
t-55- oko 150
sta je sa francuzima :D

#1004 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 18/09/2015 00:26
by junior3
M60 si ubo i francuzi su tamo.

M84 16 na Manjači i ima određeni broj u Tuzli.

T55 nema gdje ih nema, ja ih vidio u Bijeljini i Derventi.

#1005 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 18/09/2015 03:38
by krater
Nisu svi m60 u Tuzli ima ih 2-3 u Butilama il Rajlovcu, bila je ona jedna slika sa helikopterima. Vise ima m84 u Tuzli nego na manjaci. Vecina oklopa je na Dubravama i to je najveca vojna baza sa aerodromom, poligonima, zgradama i hangarima. :D

#1006 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 18/09/2015 08:28
by prog321
Gdje nadje 16 komada 84-orki na Manjaći? :lol:

#1007 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 18/09/2015 13:57
by junior3
Piše se Manjači. Znači Č slovo, zanemari kako izgovaraš.

Pa ajd' nam reci sveznalice koliko ih ima, pošto si ti inače stariji od Boga 3 dana i uvijek se praviš da sve znaš?

#1008 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 18/09/2015 15:52
by prog321
Mislio sam napisati Manjaça ali ovaj ipadov pravopis skroz zbunjujući. :-D

Bacio si brojke bez ikakvog znanja. To što si vidio 16 kom 84vorki prije 15 godina ne znači da su još uvijek tu.

#1009 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 18/09/2015 18:33
by junior3
Prije 15 godina na Manjači ih je bilo dosta više od 16.

Ajde ti koji imaš znanje napiši koliko ih ima, možda šta pametno napišeš.

#1010 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 18/09/2015 19:46
by archi_a
Hajde da nam se ne otme tema. :thumbup: Nema tačnog stanja i egzaktnih brojeva, dok se ne prezentira tačan broj, vrsta, formacijska popunjenost svakog naoružanja, što će u konačnici morati sastaviti i prezentirati ministarstvo odbrane. Kada će to biti, same ptice znaju. Do tada se treba strpiti, nema potrebe za prepucavanjem. Oružja ima..... Nema čega nema. :D To, da će neko nešto prisvojiti i aktivirati mimo znanja i odobrenja centralne komande, može samo budala sanjati. Ni ptica ne može poletjeti bez odobrenja. Tenkova M-84 najviše ima oko BLuke, to smo davno apsolvirali, ali ih ima i u Tz, i u Centralnoj Bosni. T-55 imamo i u Bihaću, pa sve do Livna. Šta će biti sa pojedinim modelima oružja (topljenje, prodaja, muzej ili rezerva) znat će se kada bude završena dugo očekivana "knjiga odbrane Bosne i Hercegovine". Sporo je sve ovo ali se ipak kreće. OS BiH uistinu doživljavaju promjene i idu ka boljem, puno boljem. Možda je mnogima ovo sporo, ali ebiga, mi očigledno ne možemo brže.


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#1011 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 18/09/2015 19:49
by archi_a
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#1012 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 19/09/2015 13:51
by 155_mm
ovaj pdf je nekad kruzio internetom o stanju entitetskih vojski pred stvaranje OS BiH.
kolko su ispravni podatci nek procijene strucnjaci i "strucnjaci".
nekad je ovaj dokument bio pod ovim linkom koji vise ne radi.
http://orbat.com/site/almanac/2004/Bosnia2004.pdf
Orbat.com Almanac 2004 Bosnia and Herzegovina
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Demographics:
Population: 3,989,018 (July 2003 est.)
Area: 51,129 sq km
Government: Emerging federal democratic republic
Army
Personnel:
Active (VF): ~13,200 (VF-B: 9,200; VF-H: 4,000) (excluding conscripts)
Reserves: VF-B: 110,000, VF-H: 40,000
Organization: The Armed Forces of the federation are composed of the (predominately Muslim)
“Army of Bosnia and Herzegovina” (VF-B formerly ABIH) and the Bosnian Croat “Croatian
Orbat.com Almanac 2004 Bosnia and Herzegovina
Defence Council” (VF-H formerly HVO). The federation's defense law indicates that the forces
are to have joint institutions at the level of Ministry of Defense, General Staff and some
formations directly subordinated to the General Staff including the air force, air defense
command and artillery division. Forces are separated from the corps level downwards.
1 Joint HQ
4 Corps (reserve)
Federal Reaction Force
1 armored brigade
1 mechanized infantry brigade
2 infantry brigades
1 engineer brigade
Equipment (mostly held under SFOR control in weapon storage sites):
MBT: 203: 20 T-34, 14 T-54, 68 T-55, 6 M-94, 50 AMX-30, 45 M-60A3
LT TK: 8 PT-76
AIFV: 25 AMX-10P, 10 M-80
APC: 80 M-113A2, M-80, 38 OT-60, BTR-50, BTR-70, BOV
TOTAL ARTY: 880 (including Anti-tank guns)
TOWED: 105mm: 36 L-118, 28 M-2Al, 20 M-56, 4 M-18/26; 122mm: 116 D-
30, 3 M-38; 130mm: 35 M46; 152mm: 18 D-20, M-84; 155mm: 124 M-114 A2;
203mm: 2 M-2
SP: 122mm: 7 2Sl
MRL: 107mm: 29 Type 63; 122mm: 36 APR-40, 5 BM-21; 128mm: 34 M-91, M-63
MOR: 120mm: 341 M-75, 15 UBM-52, M-74, M-38; 82mm
ATGW: 250 including AT-3 Sagger, 52 AT-4 Fagot, 51 Red Arrow (TF-8)
ATK GUNS: 100mm: 27 T-12/MT-12
AD GUNS: 20mm: M-55, BOV-3; 23mm: 19 ZU-23; 30mm: M-53; 57mm: S-60
Orbat.com Almanac 2004 Bosnia and Herzegovina
SAM: SA-7/-9/-14/-16
Army Aviation ( Vojska Federacije BiH):
Bases: Bihac, Mostar, Sarajevo-Rajlovac, Tuzla-Visoko
Organization:
Vojska Federacije BiH
1. Zrakoplovna baza UH-1 Sarajevo-Rajlovac
2. Zrakoplovna baza Mostar
3. Zrakoplovna baza UTVA-75 Bihac
4. Zrakoplovna baza UH-1, Mi-8/17/34 Tuzla-Visoko
Aircraft Inventory:
Bell UH-1H Iroquois 15
Mil Mi-24 'Hind' (stationed in Turkey) 5
Mil Mi-34 'Hermit' 1
Mil Mi-8/17 'Hip' 7
UTVA-75 3
Forces Abroad:
UN AND PEACEKEEPING
ETHIOPIA/ERITREA (UNMEE): 9 observers
Army Republika Srpska Armed Forces (VRS)
Personnel: ~6,600
Reserves: 80,000
Organization: The Srpska Republic is the predominantly Serbian autonomous area of Bosnia-
Herzrgovnia
2 Corps HQ
1 armored brigade
1 mechanized infantry brigade
Orbat.com Almanac 2004 Bosnia and Herzegovina
2 training brigades
plus support elements
Equipment (mostly held under SFOR control in weapon storage sites):
MBT: 80 T-55, 57 M-84
AIFV: 103 M-80
APC: 67 M-60, 22 BOV-M, 9 BTR-50PK
TOTAL ARTY: 581 (including Anti-tank guns)
TOWED: 105mm: 82 M-56; 122mm: 138 D-30, M1938 (M-30); 130mm: 38 M-
46; 152mm: 9 D-20, 3 M-84
SP: 122mm: 24 2Sl
MRL: 122mm: 32 BM-21; 128mm: 36 M-63, 20 M77; 262mm: 1 M-87 Orkan
MOR: 120mm: 70 including M-75, M-52, M-74
SSM: FROG-7
ATGW: ~150 including AT-3 Sagger
ATK GUNS: 100mm: 128 T-12
AD GUNS: 975: including 20mm, 23mm: including ZSU 23-4; 30mm:M53/59SP;
57mm: ZSU-57-2
SAM: SA-2, some SA-6/-7B/-9
Army Aviation ( Vojska Republike Srpske ):
Bases: Banja Luka-Mahovljani, Banja Luka-Zaluzani
Organization:
Vosjka Republike Srpske
92nd Air Brigade Banja Luka-Mahovljani
238th Fighter Squadron J-22, J-21, G-2/4
92nd Multi-Role Squadron UTVA-66/75, Cessna 172, PA-18
Orbat.com Almanac 2004 Bosnia and Herzegovina
111th Helicopter Regiment Banja Luka-Zaluzani
SA.341/342, Mi-8
Aircraft Inventory:
Aérospatiale/SOKO SA-341H GAMA/Partizan 7/7
Cessna 172 1
Mil Mi-8T 'Hip' 8
Piper PA-18 Super Cub 1
SOKO G-2 Galeb 3
SOKO G-4 Super Galeb 1
SOKO J-21/IJ-21 Jastreb 8
SOKO J-22 Orao 7
UTVA-66 5
UTVA-75 6
po ovom dokumentu OS BiH su naslijedile 57 M-84 + 6 M-94 (ovo je greska vjerovatno se misli na M-84). ako ih je 16 na manjaci gdje su ostali 47 komada tih tenkova. u tuzli?

#1013 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 19/09/2015 14:04
by junior3
Jedan dio u Tuzli, a ima ih još na nekoliko mjesta, vidio sam ih par u odličnom stanju. Brojke ne bih da iznosim. :mrgreen:

#1014 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 19/09/2015 15:01
by archi_a
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#1015 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 19/09/2015 15:03
by archi_a
OS BiH, blizu Tuzle :D

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#1016 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 19/09/2015 19:30
by 155_mm
junior3 wrote:Jedan dio u Tuzli, a ima ih još na nekoliko mjesta, vidio sam ih par u odličnom stanju. Brojke ne bih da iznosim. :mrgreen:
i nemoj ih iznositi ako ih nemas cime podkrijepiti.

#1017 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 19/09/2015 19:38
by junior3
Ma da editujem, nemam pojma ni o čemu, ćeraj dalje. :D

#1018 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 19/09/2015 23:02
by archi_a
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#1019 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 20/09/2015 15:14
by archi_a
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#1020 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 20/09/2015 16:46
by archi_a
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#1021 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 20/09/2015 22:10
by archi_a
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#1022 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 20/09/2015 22:48
by KUZNETSOV
ma T-55ce treba istopit' u zenici, dati ukraini sav čelik i neka vide koliko mozemo dobit onih njihovih T-64ki modernizovanih :lol:



cuj zvuka, kakav tegbir, ovo kad se cuje odma udar na moral onima kojima ide :lol:

#1023 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 21/09/2015 20:07
by archi_a
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#1024 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 23/09/2015 15:36
by archi_a
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#1025 Re: Oruzane snage Bosne i Hercegovine

Posted: 25/09/2015 00:02
by archi_a
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