#101 Re: Smisao ljudskog postojanja
Posted: 21/07/2019 22:39
Škobo Habu, ja gradim vlastito iskustvo, koje jeste moje, na osnovu univerzalnih ucenja. Da nije bilo instrukcije od onih koji znaju, ne bi imao alat koji omoguci vlastito istrazivanje a to je poenta duhovnih ucitelja kao sto je Isus.
Manifestacija ljudske volje? Ljudi uglavnom nemaju pojedinacnu volju niti slobodu iako misle da imaju. Postoji kapacitet za spoznaju sebe i postepeno oslobadjanje od onoga sto nas cini robotima kojima upravlja program.
Ne treba cekati da nam zvanicna nauka (u obliku koji imamo) dadne odgovore na ova pitanja jer se to nece desiti. Nauka fizicka je jako ogranicena jer samo vidi fizicki svijet. Mi smo multidimenzionalna bica. Vrijeme nece promijeniti ljudsku rasu u smislu da cemo postati mudri i produhovljeni. To je individualna borba koja zahtjeva mnogo napora da bi se desilo.
Naravno da postoje ideologije koje sluze kao alat kojim se upravlja ljudima ali to nema veze s ucenjima o kojima je rijec. Sve moze degenerirati vremenom i postati nesto u sto se slijepo vjeruje. Kad bi cijela ljudska rasa obavljala unutrasnji rad, svijet bi bio radikalno drugaciji. Nazalost, zivimo u tamnom vremenu u kojem ogromnu vecinu ne zanima nesto zbog cega vrijedi zivjeti. Kako god, ni to nece u nedogled jer postoje ciklusi rasa na planeti. Trenutna nije ni prva ni posljednja. Bitno je kako upotrijebimo vrijeme koje imamo.
Isus je imao misiju koju je obavio i nebitno je sta je crkva izmislila nakon njega. Nije jedini, iako je ogromna licnost u povijesti nase rase. Postoje oni koji su se u modernijem vremenu trudili objaviti ucenja covjecanstvu jer je potrebno obnoviti, predstaviti u novom obliku koji je vise prikladan novom vremenu.
Kao sto je fortaleza naveo, treba razlikovati izmedju religija i ucenja od kojih su nastale.
Sto se tice Gurdjieffa, moze se dobiti odredjeni uvid kroz njegova djela kao sto se moze i od raznih osoba koje su se bavile duhovnoscu/okultizmom: Rudolf Steiner, Helena Blavatsky, Manly P. Hall, Annie Besant, Dion Fortune, itd. Svi su doprinijeli na svoj nacin ali sto se tice objasnjenja, preciznosti i prakticnosti, daleko najvecu korist sam imao od Samaela, njegovog ucenika Rabolua, i Belsebuuba (koji je jos uvijek fizicki ziv). Veoma prakticne metode se mogu nauciti, razne vjezbe kao sto su meditacija (u svrhu bolje spoznaje svojih defekata), astralna projekcija, zivljenje u sadasnjosti od momenta do momenta, posmatranje sebe i eliminacija defekata, alkemija, itd.
"...many have been bottled up in the literature of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky, and no longer want to get out of there. Thus, they become more Gurdjieffists than Gurdjieff, as if Gurdjieff was the last word. Listen: Gurdjieff is nothing more than a beginner in these studies. The doctrine of Gurdjieff is incipient, completely incipient; if we stay bottled up in it we will never move forward. Keep in mind that now we are going to give you the Pistis Sophia, and that is where we will realize that Gurdjieff is just kindergarten. So do not get stuck in Gurdjieff. He is good for documentation, but not to stay bottled up there. The Gnostic teachings are greater! We are going to study the Pistis Sophia which is the entire body of the doctrine of Jesus of Nazareth, just as he delivered it on the Mount of Olives."
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"We have arrived at a difficult and critical point in the current talk. Gurdjeff, Ouspensky, Nicholl, Colins and many other authors of the fourth way - Gnostics like us too, because we are also of the fourth way – thought that they could disintegrate any psychological aggregate or any I through simple creative comprehension and nothing else. Gurdjeff made an unforgivable mistake that was to pronounce himself against the Divine Mother Kundalini. He did it because of ignorance, I do not deny it. But it was like this, Gurdjeff confused the sacred serpent Kundalini with the abominable organ Kundabuffer and attributed all the twisted and tenebrous defects of the Kundabuffer organ to the Divine Mother Kundalini.
We must know that in order to eliminate the ‘I’, we need a power superior to the mind, but Gurdjeff removed this knowledge from his disciples, and I do not want to remove it from my students. I truly regret that Gurdjeff deviated from the direction of the teachings that I myself taught him. He was my disciple. I regret that he made this serious error, but he let others influence him. That was regrettable." (Samael Aun Weor)
Manifestacija ljudske volje? Ljudi uglavnom nemaju pojedinacnu volju niti slobodu iako misle da imaju. Postoji kapacitet za spoznaju sebe i postepeno oslobadjanje od onoga sto nas cini robotima kojima upravlja program.
Ne treba cekati da nam zvanicna nauka (u obliku koji imamo) dadne odgovore na ova pitanja jer se to nece desiti. Nauka fizicka je jako ogranicena jer samo vidi fizicki svijet. Mi smo multidimenzionalna bica. Vrijeme nece promijeniti ljudsku rasu u smislu da cemo postati mudri i produhovljeni. To je individualna borba koja zahtjeva mnogo napora da bi se desilo.
Naravno da postoje ideologije koje sluze kao alat kojim se upravlja ljudima ali to nema veze s ucenjima o kojima je rijec. Sve moze degenerirati vremenom i postati nesto u sto se slijepo vjeruje. Kad bi cijela ljudska rasa obavljala unutrasnji rad, svijet bi bio radikalno drugaciji. Nazalost, zivimo u tamnom vremenu u kojem ogromnu vecinu ne zanima nesto zbog cega vrijedi zivjeti. Kako god, ni to nece u nedogled jer postoje ciklusi rasa na planeti. Trenutna nije ni prva ni posljednja. Bitno je kako upotrijebimo vrijeme koje imamo.
Isus je imao misiju koju je obavio i nebitno je sta je crkva izmislila nakon njega. Nije jedini, iako je ogromna licnost u povijesti nase rase. Postoje oni koji su se u modernijem vremenu trudili objaviti ucenja covjecanstvu jer je potrebno obnoviti, predstaviti u novom obliku koji je vise prikladan novom vremenu.
Kao sto je fortaleza naveo, treba razlikovati izmedju religija i ucenja od kojih su nastale.
Sto se tice Gurdjieffa, moze se dobiti odredjeni uvid kroz njegova djela kao sto se moze i od raznih osoba koje su se bavile duhovnoscu/okultizmom: Rudolf Steiner, Helena Blavatsky, Manly P. Hall, Annie Besant, Dion Fortune, itd. Svi su doprinijeli na svoj nacin ali sto se tice objasnjenja, preciznosti i prakticnosti, daleko najvecu korist sam imao od Samaela, njegovog ucenika Rabolua, i Belsebuuba (koji je jos uvijek fizicki ziv). Veoma prakticne metode se mogu nauciti, razne vjezbe kao sto su meditacija (u svrhu bolje spoznaje svojih defekata), astralna projekcija, zivljenje u sadasnjosti od momenta do momenta, posmatranje sebe i eliminacija defekata, alkemija, itd.
"...many have been bottled up in the literature of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky, and no longer want to get out of there. Thus, they become more Gurdjieffists than Gurdjieff, as if Gurdjieff was the last word. Listen: Gurdjieff is nothing more than a beginner in these studies. The doctrine of Gurdjieff is incipient, completely incipient; if we stay bottled up in it we will never move forward. Keep in mind that now we are going to give you the Pistis Sophia, and that is where we will realize that Gurdjieff is just kindergarten. So do not get stuck in Gurdjieff. He is good for documentation, but not to stay bottled up there. The Gnostic teachings are greater! We are going to study the Pistis Sophia which is the entire body of the doctrine of Jesus of Nazareth, just as he delivered it on the Mount of Olives."
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"We have arrived at a difficult and critical point in the current talk. Gurdjeff, Ouspensky, Nicholl, Colins and many other authors of the fourth way - Gnostics like us too, because we are also of the fourth way – thought that they could disintegrate any psychological aggregate or any I through simple creative comprehension and nothing else. Gurdjeff made an unforgivable mistake that was to pronounce himself against the Divine Mother Kundalini. He did it because of ignorance, I do not deny it. But it was like this, Gurdjeff confused the sacred serpent Kundalini with the abominable organ Kundabuffer and attributed all the twisted and tenebrous defects of the Kundabuffer organ to the Divine Mother Kundalini.
We must know that in order to eliminate the ‘I’, we need a power superior to the mind, but Gurdjeff removed this knowledge from his disciples, and I do not want to remove it from my students. I truly regret that Gurdjeff deviated from the direction of the teachings that I myself taught him. He was my disciple. I regret that he made this serious error, but he let others influence him. That was regrettable." (Samael Aun Weor)
