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dawud
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#104
Na FTV-u kazu kako čitatelji ove knjige imaju kvocijent inteligencije manji od broja cipela koje nose.Zanimljivo,nema sta!
Samo me cudi zasto je knjiga prevedena vec na desetine jezika i proglasena za najcitaniju knjigu u zadnje vrijeme.
Mozda nekom iz urednistva FTV-a nisu po volji činjenice iznesene u knjizi,pa su samo izrazili svoje subjektivno i pausalno misljene o navedenom djelu.
Samo me cudi zasto je knjiga prevedena vec na desetine jezika i proglasena za najcitaniju knjigu u zadnje vrijeme.
Mozda nekom iz urednistva FTV-a nisu po volji činjenice iznesene u knjizi,pa su samo izrazili svoje subjektivno i pausalno misljene o navedenom djelu.
- Fair Life
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#105
Mislis kao i film "Pasija" ?Gollum wrote:Knjiga je laz i mimikrija
Sve je to religijsko sranje, iliti "laza i paralaza". Crkva prihvata film, ali ne i knjigu...
Zasto !!
Zasto je prihvacen film "Pod Muhamedovom zastavom", ali ne i Rushdijevi "Satanski stihovi" ??
Zasto se "Avaz" dize u zvijezde, a sotonizira pisanje "Dana" i "Slobodne Bosne" ??
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Kome nije jasno nek udara glavom od zid... samo ce mu se "ukazati".
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malenii
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#106
Zar ISLAM nema tacno definisane cinjenice. KNJIGU koja je zapisana na osnovu direktnih rijeci Muhameda A.S..... Kur'an nije napisan kao neke knjige nakon 200-210 godina, na osnovu nadahnuca nekih tipova, nego kao direktne rijeci Muhameda A.S. Tu je razlika, po meni najbitnija.A wrote:Nije samo hriscanstvo "osjetljivo" po tom pitanju. Ni ostale religije ne pocivaju na cinjenicama, dokazanim i provjerenim.black wrote:Sta bi se desilo kada bi se pojavili ubjedljivi naucni dokazi da crkvena verzija price o Kristu nije tacna, i da je najveca prica ikada ispricana zapravo najveca laz ikada ispricana?”
- Fair Life
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#107
Jesi li ti drzao svijecu dok je Muhamed diktirao... ?malenii wrote:Zar ISLAM nema tacno definisane cinjenice. KNJIGU koja je zapisana na osnovu direktnih rijeci Muhameda A.S..... Kur'an nije napisan kao neke knjige nakon 200-210 godina, na osnovu nadahnuca nekih tipova, nego kao direktne rijeci Muhameda A.S. Tu je razlika, po meni najbitnija.
Ma hajde...
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ErrorNo1
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#108
Upravo to se i cini na FTVu unazad par godina.dawud wrote:Na FTV-u kazu kako čitatelji ove knjige imaju kvocijent inteligencije manji od broja cipela koje nose.Zanimljivo,nema sta!
Samo me cudi zasto je knjiga prevedena vec na desetine jezika i proglasena za najcitaniju knjigu u zadnje vrijeme.
Mozda nekom iz urednistva FTV-a nisu po volji činjenice iznesene u knjizi,pa su samo izrazili svoje subjektivno i pausalno misljene o navedenom djelu.
- CiCiban
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#110
odlomak iz knjigeSophie felt a little chill. "Da Vinci is talking about the Bible?"
Teabing nodded. "Leonardo's feelings about the Bible relate directly to the Holy Grail. In fact, Da Vinci painted the true Grail, which I will show you momentarily, but first we must speak of the Bible." Teabing smiled. "And everything you need to know about the Bible can be summed up by the great canon doctor Martyn Percy." Teabing cleared his throat and declared, "The Bible did not arrive by fax from heaven."
"I beg your pardon?"
"The Bible is a product of man, my dear. Not of God. The Bible did not fall magically from the clouds. Man created it as a historical record of tumultuous times, and it has evolved through countless translations, additions, and revisions. History has never had a definitive version of the book."
"Okay."
"Jesus Christ was a historical figure of staggering influence, perhaps the most enigmatic and inspirational leader the world has ever seen. As the prophesied Messiah, Jesus toppled kings, inspired millions, and founded new philosophies. As a descendant of the lines of King Solomon and King David, Jesus possessed a rightful claim to the throne of the King of the Jews. Understandably, His life was recorded by thousands of followers across the land." Teabing paused to sip his tea and then placed the cup back on the mantel. "More than eighty gospels were considered for the New Testament, and yet only a relative few were chosen for inclusion—Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John among them.
"Who chose which gospels to include?" Sophie asked.
"Aha!" Teabing burst in with enthusiasm. "The fundamental irony of Christianity! The Bible, as we know it today, was collated by the pagan Roman emperor Constantine the Great."
"I thought Constantine was a Christian," Sophie said.
"Hardly," Teabing scoffed. "He was a lifelong pagan who was baptized on his deathbed, too weak to protest. In Constantine's day, Rome's official religion was sun worship—the cult of Sol Invictus, or the Invincible Sun—and Constantine was its head priest. Unfortunately for him, a growing religious turmoil was gripping Rome. Three centuries after the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, Christ's followers had multiplied exponentially. Christians and pagans began warring, and the conflict grew to such proportions that it threatened to rend Rome in two. Constantine decided something had to be done. In 325 A.D., he decided to unify Rome under a single religion. Christianity."
Sophie was surprised. "Why would a pagan emperor choose Christianity as the official religion?"
Teabing chuckled. "Constantine was a very good businessman. He could see that Christianity was on the rise, and he simply backed the winning horse. Historians still marvel at the brilliance with which Constantine converted the sun-worshipping pagans to Christianity. By fusing pagan symbols, dates, and rituals into the growing Christian tradition, he created a kind of hybrid religion that was acceptable to both parties."
"Transmogrification," Langdon said. "The vestiges of pagan religion in Christian symbology are undeniable. Egyptian sun disks became the halos of Catholic saints. Pictograms of Isis nursing her miraculously conceived son Horus became the blueprint for our modern images of the Virgin Mary nursing Baby Jesus. And virtually all the elements of the Catholic ritual—the miter, the altar, the doxology, and communion, the act of "God-eating"—were taken directly from earlier pagan mystery religions."
Teabing groaned. "Don't get a symbologist started on Christian icons. Nothing in Christianity is original. The pre-Christian God Mithras—called the Son of God and the Light of the World—was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday of Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans."
"What do you mean?"
"Originally," Langdon said, "Christianity honored the Jewish Sabbath of Saturday, but Constantine shifted it to coincide with the pagan's veneration day of the sun." He paused, grinning. "To this day, most churchgoers attend services on Sunday morning with no idea that they are there on account of the pagan sun god's weekly tribute—Sunday."
Sophie's head was spinning. "And all of this relates to the Grail?"
"Indeed," Teabing said. "Stay with me. During this fusion of religions, Constantine needed to strengthen the new Christian tradition, and held a famous ecumenical gathering known as the Council of Nicaea."
Sophie had heard of it only insofar as its being the birthplace of the Nicene Creed.
"At this gathering," Teabing said, "many aspects of Christianity were debated and voted upon—the date of Easter, the role of the bishops, the administration of sacraments, and, of course, the divinity of Jesus."
"I don't follow. His divinity?"
"My dear," Teabing declared, "until that moment in history, Jesus was viewed by His followers as a mortal prophet... a great and powerful man, but a man nonetheless. A mortal."
"Not the Son of God?"
"Right," Teabing said. "Jesus' establishment as 'the Son of God' was officially proposed and voted on by the Council of Nicaea."
"Hold on. You're saying Jesus' divinity was the result of a vote?"
"A relatively close vote at that," Teabing added. "Nonetheless, establishing Christ's divinity was critical to the further unification of the Roman empire and to the new Vatican power base. By officially endorsing Jesus as the Son of God, Constantine turned Jesus into a deity who existed beyond the scope of the human world, an entity whose power was unchallengeable. This not only precluded further pagan challenges to Christianity, but now the followers of Christ were able to redeem themselves only via the established sacred channel—the Roman Catholic Church."
Sophie glanced at Langdon, and he gave her a soft nod of concurrence.
"It was all about power," Teabing continued. "Christ as Messiah was critical to the functioning of Church and state. Many scholars claim that the early Church literally stole Jesus from His original followers, hijacking His human message, shrouding it in an impenetrable cloak of divinity, and using it to expand their own power. I've written several books on the topic."
"And I assume devout Christians send you hate mail on a daily basis?"
"Why would they?" Teabing countered. "The vast majority of educated Christians know the history of their faith. Jesus was indeed a great and powerful man. Constantine's underhanded political maneuvers don't diminish the majesty of Christ's life. Nobody is saying Christ was a fraud, or denying that He walked the earth and inspired millions to better lives. All we are saying is that Constantine took advantage of Christ's substantial influence and importance. And in doing so, he shaped the face of Christianity as we know it today."
Sophie glanced at the art book before her, eager to move on and see the Da Vinci painting of the Holy Grail.
"The twist is this," Teabing said, talking faster now. "Because Constantine upgraded Jesus' status almost four centuries after Jesus' death, thousands of documents already existed chronicling His life as a mortal man. To rewrite the history books, Constantine knew he would need a bold stroke. From this sprang the most profound moment in Christian history." Teabing paused, eyeing Sophie. "Constantine commissioned and financed a new Bible, which omitted those gospels that spoke of Christ's human traits and embellished those gospels that made Him godlike. The earlier gospels were outlawed, gathered up, and burned."
"An interesting note," Langdon added. "Anyone who chose the forbidden gospels over Constantine's version was deemed a heretic. The word heretic derives from that moment in history. The Latin word haereticus means 'choice.' Those who 'chose' the original history of Christ were the world's first heretics."
"Fortunately for historians," Teabing said, "some of the gospels that Constantine attempted to eradicate managed to survive. The Dead Sea Scrolls were found in the 1950s hidden in a cave near Qumran in the Judean desert. And, of course, the Coptic Scrolls in 1945 at Nag Hammadi. In addition to telling the true Grail story, these documents speak of Christ's ministry in very human terms. Of course, the Vatican, in keeping with their tradition of misinformation, tried very hard to suppress the release of these scrolls. And why wouldn't they? The scrolls highlight glaring historical discrepancies and fabrications, clearly confirming that the modern Bible was compiled and edited by men who possessed a political agenda—to promote the divinity of the man Jesus Christ and use His influence to solidify their own power base."
fair life i maleni , drz'te se teme
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leech
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#111
Citirala bih voditelja jednog sedmičnog TV magazina, tu knjigu nastoje pročitati uglavnom oni koji još uvijek ne znaju ko je Leonardo DiCaprio a ko Leonardo da Vinci.A wrote:HAHAHAHA, tezakJBT wrote:Kazu zene da je pocetak malo potezak, ali kasnije postaje ludnica.![]()
Ma daj, nivo je zaista Lunov Magnus strip (ako ti Danielle Steel nije dovoljno bijedan literarni stil).
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mostarac
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#114
Procitao sam knjigu i mogu reci da se cita u jednom dahu, a mislim da autoru i nije bio cilj da joj se slijepo vjeruje nego da natjera na razmisljanje, sto u par citata i navodi u samoj knjizi. Pogresno je misliti da ova knjiga potkopava samo temelje katolicke crkve, jer ona potkopava temelje i ostalih religija. Islam takodje priznaje Isusa i Mariju u ovom izdanju kakvo poznajemo. Ono sto me zanima je to da li bi vi kad bi dosli u posjed spisa koji dokazuju tvrdnje iz da vincijevog koda objavili iste? Ja licno ne bi iz razloga sto bi to dovelo do trenutnog rusenja dva najvaznija stuba na kojima danasnje covjecanstvo pociva, a to je Islam i katolicka crkva sto bi neminovno dovelo do potresa i nemira koji bi rezultirali milionima mrtvih i doveli bi do strasnih preokreta u covjecanstvu. Mozda neko i misli te spise objaviti, ali to radi dozirano.
Inache volim citati o tim teorijama zavjere, ali sad da im bas nesto slijepo vjerujem i nisam. Razmislim o nekim stvarima i to je to.
Isto tako kad bolje pogledate sliku "Posljednja vechera", zaista se vidi da je ono zenski lik i tijelo do Isusa, sto naravno nista ne dokazuje, jer je to isto tako Leonardova pretpostavka, ali ipak tjera na razmisljanje. Da ima istine u onome sto pise u "Da Vincijevom kodu" moze nas natjerati da vjerujemo i cinjenica da je odmah izasla knjiga "Dekodirani da vincijev kod" koja to sve pobija, a da je to glupost ne bi se bas niko toliko trudio. Dakle gdje ima dima ima i vatre, a da je bas sve onako ne vjerujem, ali ima nesto sto je sporno sigurno.
Isto tako ova slika mi je jako zanimljiva iz razloga sto se u utrobi muskarca jasno moze razaznati dvoje djece. Sta ona znache nemam pojma.

Eh da, preporucujem i "Protokole sionskih mudraca".
Elektronska verzija ima ovdje:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/archive/in...p/t-189353.html
a i ovaj link vrijedi pogledati
http://www.beotel.yu/~ninic/komentar%20pro...ex.html#sadrzaj
Inache volim citati o tim teorijama zavjere, ali sad da im bas nesto slijepo vjerujem i nisam. Razmislim o nekim stvarima i to je to.
Isto tako kad bolje pogledate sliku "Posljednja vechera", zaista se vidi da je ono zenski lik i tijelo do Isusa, sto naravno nista ne dokazuje, jer je to isto tako Leonardova pretpostavka, ali ipak tjera na razmisljanje. Da ima istine u onome sto pise u "Da Vincijevom kodu" moze nas natjerati da vjerujemo i cinjenica da je odmah izasla knjiga "Dekodirani da vincijev kod" koja to sve pobija, a da je to glupost ne bi se bas niko toliko trudio. Dakle gdje ima dima ima i vatre, a da je bas sve onako ne vjerujem, ali ima nesto sto je sporno sigurno.
Isto tako ova slika mi je jako zanimljiva iz razloga sto se u utrobi muskarca jasno moze razaznati dvoje djece. Sta ona znache nemam pojma.

Eh da, preporucujem i "Protokole sionskih mudraca".
Elektronska verzija ima ovdje:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/archive/in...p/t-189353.html
a i ovaj link vrijedi pogledati
http://www.beotel.yu/~ninic/komentar%20pro...ex.html#sadrzaj
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King Kikapu
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#118
bilo mi je mrsko citati sve redom pa cu samo reci sta ja mislim o Davincijevom kodu:
Ta je knjiga pisana kao roman, dakle kao fikcija, i tako joj se treba pristupiti. Ne traziti argumentzaciju i kontraargumentaciju za tvrdnje koje iznosi, vec stilska i izrazajna sredstva, tehnicke konvencije zanra (triler zar ne?), kompoziciju, jezik.
Citati Davincijev kod kao istorijsku, politicku i bilo kakvu drugu raspravu je glupo.
Ta je knjiga pisana kao roman, dakle kao fikcija, i tako joj se treba pristupiti. Ne traziti argumentzaciju i kontraargumentaciju za tvrdnje koje iznosi, vec stilska i izrazajna sredstva, tehnicke konvencije zanra (triler zar ne?), kompoziciju, jezik.
Citati Davincijev kod kao istorijsku, politicku i bilo kakvu drugu raspravu je glupo.
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kajman
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#120
da je u tome uspio, knjiga se ne bi prodalavalaumro je mostar wrote:ja mislim da autoru i nije bio cilj da on dokazuje nesto, nego samo da natjera ljude da razmisle
neko rece: "ljudima se smucio zivot kakav jeste, pa hoce fikciju",
brown je ljudima dao ono sto zele: malo uzbudjenja i fascinantno banalne, glupe, da ne kazem: moronske recenice koje vrlo lako moze provariti mozak djeteta ili starije gorile, te mnostvo kojekakvih nepotrebnih informacija
sve u svemu: knjiga je obicna bljuvotina
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EI Presidente
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#123
Odlican triler kojeg ne treba shvatiti pretjerano ozbiljno. Knjiga me natjerala da bezbroj puta odem na internet i pokusam da saznam vise o zapadnoj historiji. Brown je besprijekorno i detaljno istrazio temu te razotkrio simbolizam koji mnoge drevne gradjevine, likovna i pisana umjetnicka djela kriju u sebi. Paganske religije su veoma interesantne i Brown iznosi mnogo slabo poznatih cinjenica o njima. Pored mnostva informacija tu je naravno i efektan zaplet koji nas, zajedno s likovima u knjizi, vodi nazad u proslost u neke od najljepsih gradova na svijetu.
Cuo sam da je najnoviju misteriju smjestio u Washington DC, sto me vise nego raduje, posto tu zivim.
Cuo sam da je najnoviju misteriju smjestio u Washington DC, sto me vise nego raduje, posto tu zivim.
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Mercenary
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#124
Proccitao sam prvo "Andjele i Demone" ,pa tek onda "Davincijev Kod".
Pa, Davincijev kod me malo razocarao.
Po meni Andjeli su daleko bolje dijelo.Cak je i "Digitalna Tvrdjava" bolja od Davincijevog Koda.
Ne kazem da je knjiga bezz,samo sam imao osjecaj "vec procitanog".
Pa, Davincijev kod me malo razocarao.
Po meni Andjeli su daleko bolje dijelo.Cak je i "Digitalna Tvrdjava" bolja od Davincijevog Koda.
Ne kazem da je knjiga bezz,samo sam imao osjecaj "vec procitanog".
- Fair Life
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#125
TalibananaGollum wrote:Pravi si taliban JBT
