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Leopard_SA wrote: 11/03/2026 17:32
sumirprimus wrote: 11/03/2026 16:51 I ovaj tvit pezeskiana koji govori da su oni sljedbenici alija a ne Muhameda poslanika. Nije moje da se kvartam i neko upuceniji moze pojasniti, ali predsjednik države kaze za svu vojsku ovako nesto tu onda nema mjesta za druge... :-)
Zar nisu svi sljedbenici Muhameda poslanika a ne alija nije Ali poslanik? Nije mi ovo jasno osim da vidim zasto postoji granica u tumačenjima.
Otprilike prevod:
The English translation:

"Indeed, the brave and honorable men of our armed forces are followers of Ali (peace be upon him), who said:
'The mountains may move but you do not waver. Clench your teeth. Entrust your head to Allah. Plant your feet firmly on the ground. Cast your gaze to the farthest ranks of the enemy. And know that victory is from Allah, the Glorified.'

May Allah establish victory for you and crush your foe."

I original.
Sad vec otvoreno lazes i potvaras covjeka. Hoce li moderacija mozda uciniti nesto?
Upravo sam htio to da napisem. Za svaki narod se moze reci svasta i bez laganja tako da nema potrebe trpati rijeci nekom u usta koje nisu izgovorene samo zato da bi se zadovoljio licni narativ i neko (ko zna na cemu) bazirano misljenje.
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pici wrote: 11/03/2026 17:08
https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/trum ... /260311161


Trump sada tvrdi da će rat završiti "uskoro" jer "praktično više nema ničega za gađati"

"Pomalo ovo i ono... Kad god budem htio da se završi, završit će", rekao je Trump tokom petominutnog razgovora.
Koji je ovo debil i moron... ja pojma nemam kako je on uspio u zivotu... nije mi jasno.


“Ako kaniš pobijediti, ne smiješ izgubiti.”
Pa on i nije uspio u zivotu, on je spickao sve, svaki put kad mu je babo dao, i tako 7x.
Uspio mu je babo, a on sad samo uziva u tome.
Kakav je to kloc dovoljno govori podatak da ga je babo prije smrti razvlastio u firmi. Prima pare, ali ne odlucuje o bilo cemu.
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Ne razumijem, lik je rekao da su followers of ali..sta to znaci nego sljedbenici kako bi vi preveli?
To sa potvor0m, to nekom drugom ne razumijem ni sta znaci vjerovatno da nesto lazem, tvit je u prilogu bukvalno je to lik rekao. Osim ako nema neko drugo znacenje
Zato i pitam. Vidim da suni strana (ona striktnija)foruma suti na komplet temu irana. Ok kontam zasto, ali vjerovatno bi oni ovo pojasnili. Ovako kako ja ovo prevedem,meni je ovo ko da se samo sitima obraća jer suniti nisu sljedbenici alija jel tako?
Cuj potovrim :lol: :-)
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Koga boli kurac koga slijede. Napali su ih pizdunski, normalna stvar je simpatizirati žrtvu i slabijeg pa onda ako se obrane brinut ćemo se koga slijede i ko će ih voditi.
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JohnnyS wrote: 11/03/2026 17:51 Koga boli kurac koga slijede. Napali su ih pizdunski, normalna stvar je simpatizirati žrtvu i slabijeg pa onda ako se obrane brinut ćemo se koga slijede i ko će ih voditi.
Ee drug moj, složenost odnosa na BI.

Zato i napadaju iranci regiju haman i vise nego amere i izraelce.
Dole je sve u u znakovlju i pripadnosti.
Sjeti se snimka isilovaca u iraku kada su vadili sofereml kamiona na čeki da klanjaju pred njima, i od načina klanjanja zavisilo da li će nastaviti dalje ili ostati bez glave.
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sumirprimus wrote: 11/03/2026 17:48 Ne razumijem, lik je rekao da su followers of ali..sta to znaci nego sljedbenici kako bi vi preveli?
To sa potvor0m, to nekom drugom ne razumijem ni sta znaci vjerovatno da nesto lazem, tvit je u prilogu bukvalno je to lik rekao. Osim ako nema neko drugo znacenje
Zato i pitam. Vidim da suni strana (ona striktnija)foruma suti na komplet temu irana. Ok kontam zasto, ali vjerovatno bi oni ovo pojasnili. Ovako kako ja ovo prevedem,meni je ovo ko da se samo sitima obraća jer suniti nisu sljedbenici alija jel tako?
Cuj potovrim :lol: :-)
Izvukao si njegovu izjavu iz konteksta i dodao na nju svoj dio. On jeste rekao da prate Aliju r.a., ali nije rekao ono sto si ti dodao da ne prate Muhameda s.a.v.s. Samim tim si slagao.

Za one koji ne znaju dovoljno o sijama tvoje pisanje im daje impresiju da oni ne "prate" Muhameda s.a.v.s. sto oni koji znaju neke osnove o siizmu znaju da nije tacno.
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I nas su napadali kršćanski teroristi pa bez obzira na to je bilo i katolika i pravoslavaca koji su bili na strani pravde
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Ja_Ja wrote: 11/03/2026 17:55
sumirprimus wrote: 11/03/2026 17:48 Ne razumijem, lik je rekao da su followers of ali..sta to znaci nego sljedbenici kako bi vi preveli?
To sa potvor0m, to nekom drugom ne razumijem ni sta znaci vjerovatno da nesto lazem, tvit je u prilogu bukvalno je to lik rekao. Osim ako nema neko drugo znacenje
Zato i pitam. Vidim da suni strana (ona striktnija)foruma suti na komplet temu irana. Ok kontam zasto, ali vjerovatno bi oni ovo pojasnili. Ovako kako ja ovo prevedem,meni je ovo ko da se samo sitima obraća jer suniti nisu sljedbenici alija jel tako?
Cuj potovrim :lol: :-)
Izvukao si njegovu izjavu iz konteksta i dodao na nju svoj dio. On jeste rekao da prate Aliju r.a., ali nije rekao ono sto si ti dodao da ne prate Muhameda s.a.v.s. Samim tim si slagao.

Za one koji ne znaju dovoljno o sijama tvoje pisanje im daje impresiju da oni ne "prate" Muhameda s.a.v.s. sto oni koji znaju neke osnove o siizmu znaju da nije tacno.
Ok da se ispravim , on jeste rekao za alija. Dalje ja kažem zar ne trebaju svi slijediti poslanik muhameda a ne alija, dakle nije on rekao da ne slijede muhameda nego ja pitam? Dakle ja nikad nisam cuo nekog muslimana sunita da kaze da slijedi ikoga osim muhamdea kao bozjeg poslanika I boga jedinog. To je taj shehadet jel kako vec? U osnovi Jel to ta razlika izmedju sunita I Sita? Akonjeste onda sam se dobro izrazio da se predsjednik irana obratio samo sitskim vojnicima?
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Molim vas prestanite citirati ovu spodobu.
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Capajebo wrote: 11/03/2026 18:11 Molim vas prestanite citirati ovu spodobu.
Znaci ovo nema smisla vridjejanje, forum je javan i ako niste spremni za argumentovanu rapravu pogrijesili ste mjesto a tako se meni neces obracati jesi cuo, nego znas vec kome.
Jednoumlje mozete sprovoditi znate vec gdje
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Roka haman na sve strane
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Svaka cast :thumbup: ne znam je li bilo. Ako i jeste treba ovo na svaki stranicu teme.
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Capajebo wrote: 11/03/2026 18:11 Molim vas prestanite citirati ovu spodobu.
dobro vam covjek kaze ne raspravljate se sa njim jer naas narod kaaze

sa budalama se ne raaspravlja, jer se spuštate na njihov nivo a onda vas oni rasture vlastitim iskustvom u gluposti
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sale07 wrote: 11/03/2026 17:58 I nas su napadali kršćanski teroristi pa bez obzira na to je bilo i katolika i pravoslavaca koji su bili na strani pravde
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Velkoski wrote: 11/03/2026 15:54
U.S. at Fault in Strike on School in Iran, Preliminary Inquiry Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/11/us/p ... Position=2

ne mogu da probijem paywall

Evo ti kopirano.

U.S. at Fault in Strike on School in Iran, Preliminary Inquiry Says
Outdated targeting data may have resulted in a mistaken missile strike, according to the military investigation, which undercuts President Trump’s assertion that Iran could be to blame.


March 11, 2026
Updated 1:07 p.m. ET
An ongoing military investigation has determined that the United States is responsible for a deadly Tomahawk missile strike on an Iranian elementary school, according to U.S. officials and others familiar with the preliminary findings.

The Feb. 28 strike on the Shajarah Tayyebeh elementary school building was the result of a targeting mistake by the U.S. military, which was conducting strikes on an adjacent Iranian base of which the school building was formerly a part, the preliminary investigation found. Officers at U.S. Central Command created the target coordinates for the strike using outdated data provided by the Defense Intelligence Agency, people briefed on the investigation said.

Officials emphasized that the findings are preliminary and that there are important unanswered questions about why the outdated information had not been double checked.

Striking a school full of children is sure to be recorded as one of the most devastating single military errors in recent decades. Iranian officials have said the death toll was at least 175 people, most of them children.

While the overall finding was largely expected — the United States is the only country involved in the conflict that uses Tomahawk missiles — it has already cast a shadow on the U.S. military operation in Iran.

President Trump’s attempts to sidestep the blame for the strike have also already complicated the inquiry, leaving officials who have reviewed the findings showing U.S. culpability expressing unease. The people interviewed for this story spoke on the condition of anonymity, citing the sensitive nature of the ongoing investigation and Mr. Trump’s assertion at one point that Iran, not the United States, was responsible.

“As The New York Times acknowledges in its own reporting, the investigation is still ongoing,” Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, said in a statement.

Asked about this article as he left the White House on Wednesday for a trip to promote his economic agenda in Ohio and Kentucky, Mr. Trump replied, “I don’t know about that.”

People briefed on the investigation said many questions were yet to be answered around why outdated information was used and who failed to verify the data.

Still, the error has not surprised current and former officials.

An aerial photo shows rows of small graves being dug by yellow excavators and workmen inside the graves at a cemetery.
Excavators and workmen dug nearly 100 graves at a cemetery in Minab before the funeral for children and teachers killed in an airstrike on a school on Feb. 28. Credit... Iran's Foreign Media Department, via Associated Press
The school, in the town of Minab, is on the same block as buildings used by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Navy, a top target of the U.S. military strikes. The site of the school was originally part of the base. Officials briefed on the inquiry said the building was not always used as a school, though it is not clear precisely when the school opened on the site.

A visual investigation by The Times showed the building housing the school had been fenced off from the military base between 2013 and 2016.

Satellite imagery reviewed by The Times showed that watchtowers that once stood near the building had been removed, three public entrances were opened to the school, ground was cleared and play areas including a sports field were painted on asphalt, and walls were painted blue and pink.

The “target coding” provided by the Defense Intelligence Agency, the military intelligence agency that helps develop targets, labeled the school building as a military target when it was passed to Central Command, the military headquarters overseeing the war, according to people briefed on the preliminary findings of the investigation.

Investigators do not yet fully understand how the outdated data was sent to Central Command or whether the Defense Intelligence Agency had updated information.

Military targeting is very complex and involves multiple agencies. Many officers would have been responsible for verifying that the data is correct, and officers at Central Command are responsible for checking the information they receive from the Defense Intelligence Agency or another intelligence agency. But in a fast-moving situation, like the opening days of a war, information is sometimes not verified.

In addition to the Defense Intelligence Agency and Central Command, investigators are examining the work of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, known as the N.G.A., which provides and examines satellite imagery of potential targets.

U.S. officials and others emphasized that the investigation was ongoing and there was more to learn, according to people briefed on the inquiry. Officials from Central Command declined to comment. Officials from the Defense Intelligence Agency referred questions to the Pentagon, which declined to comment, saying the incident was under investigation. The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency have dozens, even hundreds, of analysts at combatant commands who work with military operational planners and intelligence offices to develop targets.

When the Defense Intelligence Agency’s targeting data is older, intelligence officers are expected to use imagery or data from the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency to update and verify the target.

While Mr. Trump has made targeting Iran’s navy a top priority of the war to prevent it from interfering with global commerce in the region, historically it is not been a top priority of the Defense Intelligence Agency, which has focused more on Iran’s missiles and other priorities like China and North Korea.

Officials conducting the investigation have examined whether any artificial intelligence models, data crunching programs or other technical intelligence gathering means were to blame for the mistaken targeting of the school, according to U.S. officials.

While Claude, the large language model created by Anthropic, does not directly create targets, it works with the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency’s Maven Smart System and other software to identify points of interest for military intelligence officers.

But officials said the error was unlikely to have been the result of new technology. Instead, they said, it likely reflected a common — but sometimes devastating — human error in wartime.

The top line finding of the internal military investigation mirrors a growing body of public evidence that clearly suggests U.S. responsibility.

Satellite imagery, social media posts and verified videos assembled by The Times visual investigation team indicate that the school was severely damaged by a precision strike that occurred around the same time as attacks on the naval base. A Times analysis showed that base was hit again within around two hours of the first strikes.

A video uploaded Sunday by Iran’s semiofficial Mehr News Agency and verified by The Times also shows a Tomahawk cruise missile striking the naval base beside the school in Minab on Feb. 28.


Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and other administration officials have declined to comment on the strike, other than to say it is under investigation. Despite that, the president has tried at times to put the blame on Iran.

“In my opinion, based on what I’ve seen, that was done by Iran,” Mr. Trump told reporters on Air Force One on Saturday, as Mr. Hegseth stood beside him, adding: “They’re very inaccurate, as you know, with their munitions. They have no accuracy whatsoever. It was done by Iran.”

On Monday, a Times reporter asked Mr. Trump why he was the only official in his administration blaming Iran. “Because I just don’t know enough about it,” Mr. Trump answered, asserting incorrectly that Iran might also have Tomahawk missiles but adding that he would accept the results of the inquiry into what happened.

Although most presidents might refrain from commenting or couch their statements while an investigation is underway, Mr. Trump has not hesitated to weigh in, and has not fully backed down even as evidence has mounted of U.S. culpability.


During a news conference on Monday, President Trump suggested without evidence that Iran possessed Tomahawk missiles.
On Tuesday, Ms. Leavitt, the White House press secretary, reiterated that Mr. Trump would accept the findings of the investigation.

While the investigation into the school is not complete, the use of old data evoked the biggest misstep of the Kosovo war.

In 1999, old, outdated maps and poor tradecraft led the C.I.A. to provide erroneous targeting data to the military, resulting in an airstrike on the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade that killed three Chinese citizens. The C.I.A. wrongly assessed that the building was the headquarters of a Yugoslav arms agency.

“Database maintenance is one of the basic elements of our intelligence effort, but it is also one that has suffered in recent years as our work force has been spread thin,” George J. Tenet, the C.I.A. director at the time, told a congressional committee in 1999.

Military planners assumed the intelligence agency had verified the site and ordered the strike.



Julian E. Barnes covers the U.S. intelligence agencies and international security matters for The Times. He has written about security issues for more than two decades.

Eric Schmitt is a national security correspondent for The Times. He has reported on U.S. military affairs and counterterrorism for more than three decades.

Tyler Pager is a White House correspondent for The Times, covering President Trump and his administration.

Malachy Browne is enterprise director of the Visual Investigations team at The Times. He was a member of teams awarded the Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting in 2020 and 2023.

Helene Cooper is a Pentagon correspondent for The Times. She was previously an editor, diplomatic correspondent and White House correspondent.
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#60568 Re: IRAN

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SaraFina wrote: 11/03/2026 18:16 Svaka cast :thumbup: ne znam je li bilo. Ako i jeste treba ovo na svaki stranicu teme.
Španjolska je poduzela do sada najjači diplomatsko-politički korak u odnosu na Izrael od svih članica EU - danas je razriješila svoju veleposlanicu u toj zemlji i nije imenovala novog diplomatskog predstavnika - što je ozbiljna poruka Izraelu o osudi politike tamošnjeg vodstva.

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nego osim ovih objava sunije-šije

imamo poplavu i ovoga na FB
primjetio sam pojavu mase nekih grupa po društvenim mrežama, tipa Abrahamova djeca, Biblija i Izrael itd itd, gdje administratori pišu protiv Mus, ali ono što me pozitivno iznenadilo su mnoštvo komentara mlađih ljudi koji realno gledaju i pričaju , i stoje na strani Istine i pravde, ne mrze druge samo da bi mrzili nego otvoreno pričaju, o zločinima koji se rade u Gazi da Isus to nikad ne bi podržao, za agresiju na Iran, super za vidjeti
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Tananarive wrote: 11/03/2026 18:17
Capajebo wrote: 11/03/2026 18:11 Molim vas prestanite citirati ovu spodobu.
dobro vam covjek kaze ne raspravljate se sa njim jer naas narod kaaze

sa budalama se ne raaspravlja, jer se spuštate na njihov nivo a onda vas oni rasture vlastitim iskustvom u gluposti

Samo argumentovano, sutra ide slikom na sliku nista AI lažno davanje nade i podizanje morala na forumu.
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Dozer wrote: 11/03/2026 16:31
muha_sa wrote: 11/03/2026 16:25
Ovo je ono sto govorih ranije. Slika koju silji zapad, USA prvenstveno, i realnost su nebo i zemlja.
Imam raje koja su putovala u Iran, i svi kazu isto - sjebali su se koliko to nema veze s onim sto nam se servira sa zapada.
Prvi ja sam vjerovAo ovim lažovima :-)
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suspect_zero wrote: 11/03/2026 18:23
SaraFina wrote: 11/03/2026 18:16 Svaka cast :thumbup: ne znam je li bilo. Ako i jeste treba ovo na svaki stranicu teme.
Španjolska je poduzela do sada najjači diplomatsko-politički korak u odnosu na Izrael od svih članica EU - danas je razriješila svoju veleposlanicu u toj zemlji i nije imenovala novog diplomatskog predstavnika - što je ozbiljna poruka Izraelu o osudi politike tamošnjeg vodstva.

Španci mi postaju sve draži i draži 🥰
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Propale ustaše koje javno glume nekakve jehudije po forumu, a sve kako bi muslimanima i Bošnjacma u BiH napakostili. Relevantni su ko HVO/HV na Gornjem Vakufu 1993-ce. Kad poginu ovdje u Bosni, nose ih tamo da ih sahrane u Vinkovce, Rijeku :pisnuo:
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SaraFina wrote: 11/03/2026 18:25
suspect_zero wrote: 11/03/2026 18:23
SaraFina wrote: 11/03/2026 18:16 Svaka cast :thumbup: ne znam je li bilo. Ako i jeste treba ovo na svaki stranicu teme.


Španci mi postaju sve draži i draži 🥰
Svaka im cast. Od pocetka su podrska i od pocetka genocida u Gazi, nazovaju izivljavanje Zidova pravim imenom.
Evo ih i kod nas :D
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Ee svasta.
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