F1 2008, 2009, 2010 and counting

[_BataZiv_0809]

Speaking after the Singapore GP, Ricciardo conceded that he can no longer keep up with F1’s new breed of drivers, claiming that advances in technology – including the rise of driver-in-the-loop simulators – has made today’s youngsters better equipped to adapt to F1 compared to drivers of his generation.

He told reporters: “I’m 35 and I still showed the pace that I’ve had over the years, but it’s obviously been evident that it’s been harder for me to show it every weekend.

“And maybe that is a little bit of an age thing. I think it definitely came easier for me when I was 25 as opposed to 35, but also maybe the competition is just increasing.

“I think that’s probably a common thing with all sports: simulators are getting better, the kids are getting younger, so naturally they’re [more prepared].

“And they have access to all the onboards now, so they can watch and study everyone.

“So maybe it’s just that the level’s increased and it’s probably a tall task for me to fight at that level week in, week out.

@Pandakonda i ovo je zanimljivo
Vjerovatno Ricci nije nastavio raditi na sebi kako treba, prioritet su mu uzele druge stvari i vrijeme ga je pregazilo.

[Samprotivsviju]

Tacno je i to da je i konkurencija vozaca sada znatno jaca nego prije 7,8,9 godina..npr 2016ta sezona je zvanicno sezona sa najvise novih vozaca, u prevedenom smjena generacija.

[Samprotivsviju]

Navodno Sumaher prisustvovao kcerkinoj svadbi nedavno, sudeci po glasinama on je u stanju nesto najslicnije kao Stephen Hawking sto je bio.

[Pandakonda]

Dobar intervju Otmara. Vidi se da je izvlacio iz Alpine vise nego sto su mu davali jer je doslovno imao manji budzet od williamsa a bili su best of the rest uz McLaren.

[tramvajtrojka]

Sta su se ovo svi usutili i ne spominju povratak Toyote u F1

[_BataZiv_0809]

Sta su se ovo svi usutili i ne spominju povratak Toyote u F1

Nista nisu napravili prosli put

[mayab]

Sta su se ovo svi usutili i ne spominju povratak Toyote u F1

Nista nisu napravili prosli put

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_in_Formula_One
Nisu se ni okušali u eri hibridnih motora , a u tome su u samom vrhu za civilne aute , možda su sad sve posložili da "udare" punom snagom!

[mayab]

Kasno ove kvalifikacije , vala nema šansi da to gledam

[El_comadante]

Ma da kasno. Jedino sprint i trku pogledati a kvalifikacije jedino u reprizi nekada.

[PlusSA]

Kasno ove kvalifikacije , vala nema šansi da to gledam

Ma top subota noc poslije filma quale

više mi odgovaraju nocni termini USA, Mexico pa Brazil naredne 3x trke pa Las Vegas 7.00 ujutro

[laik1981]

Sta su se ovo svi usutili i ne spominju povratak Toyote u F1

Nista nisu napravili prosli put

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_in_Formula_One
Nisu se ni okušali u eri hibridnih motora , a u tome su u samom vrhu za civilne aute , možda su sad sve posložili da "udare" punom snagom!

Nece se sad baviti motoroma. Ostaje ferrari u hassu. Toyota ce raditi na dijelu koji se tice aerodinamike.

[shalla]

E čuj kasno u ponoć, subota na nedjelju
Ja ne znam jesam li freak ali ja ni radnim danima ne liježem prije 1.30h

[axe22]

Ovo opet redbull nije po pravilima. Hhh

Pronasli im uredjaj s kojim mogu podesavati visinu prednjeg dijela bolida, kvalifikacije jedna, za utrku druga i ako je zabranjeno.

A Red Bull spokesperson told BBC Sport: "Yes, (the device) exists, although it is inaccessible once the car is fully assembled and ready to run. In the numerous correspondence we have with the FIA, this part came up and we have agreed a plan going forward."

I sad kao nisu koristili.

[_BataZiv_0809]

Koja svinjarija opet

[Pandakonda]

A Hamiltona razapeli radi 2mm DRS sirine u brazilu uz DSQ

[DaysleepeR]

Ovo je non-scandal.

1. U pitanju je dio koji nije bio sakriven - bio je vidljiv od početka sezone svim timovima putem open-source platforme.
2. Dio omogućava podešavanje visine bolida - na primjer nakon kvalifikacija a prije utrke.
3. Kada se bolid sastavi, nemoguće je putem istog vršiti podešavanja, jer mu se ne može pristupiti.
4. FIA je potvrdila da RedBull u Singapore-u nije vršio podešavanje visine između kvalifikacija i trke, niti da je to rađeno na trkama ranije
5. Dio će ubuduće imati pečat da se ne može koristiti.

Dakle, niđe veze.

What FIA action on Red Bull's controversial tool might really mean
Oct 18, 2024
by Scott Mitchell-Malm


When does something in Formula 1 become illegal? When it is conceived with the intent of getting around a rule, when it is put on a car (regardless of whether it is used or not), or when it is conclusively used in a grand prix event in a manner that breaks the rules?

It is surely the final scenario: when something is on the car that does not conform to the rules and is also used in a rule-breaking way. That is the tipping point from when a device/idea/trick or whatever you want to call it goes from something the rulemakers will remind teams cannot be used to something that needs a punishment.

The potential for misuse doesn't prove misuse itself. And in the hot topic of Red Bull having a cockpit-activated device that can change the height of the leading edge of the floor – the ‘bib’ or ‘tea tray’ – the likelihood of it being used or not is essential to understanding whether this has been a clampdown to protect against paranoia, or an klix offence.

McLaren’s Lando Norris put it quite well when he said: “It's one thing having it on your car. It's another thing on how much you exploit it and use it, which we have no idea on.”

If there is any evidence of Red Bull using its mechanism in parc ferme conditions – between qualifying and the race – then the expectation would be for action to be taken.

The FIA could have responded to this more seriously. A rival team could have protested at the last race in Singapore. That this never happened would suggest it is the potential for the parc ferme-breaching adjustment to be made, rather than strong evidence Red Bull has actually done so, that has alarmed people. And it is simply better to eliminate the possibility altogether.


Mark Hughes explains mechanism at centre of ride height controversy

If the device exists as, essentially, a preparation item to more easily make a set-up change when the car is being built, to set it for certain track types, then that would not seem to be a problem. Proving its primary purpose isn’t the issue here. It is whether it gets used during parc ferme conditions at all. And nobody seems able to say it was.

Given the device exists in an open-source environment for all rival teams to see, and that is how this became a topic in the first place, it would be absurd for Red Bull to have designed and employed it in an illegal manner. There’s hiding in plain sight, and then there’s making the evidence of your supposed crime available to your competitors! Which is probably why Max Verstappen was so bluntly nonplussed by it.

"It is an easy tool and everyone can see it, when the parts are off it is easy to adjust but once the whole car is built together you can’t touch it," he said.

Max Verstappen, Red Bull, F1
"For us it doesn’t change. When I read it [the original story that didn't name a team], I did not think it was related to our team. It is just an easy tool for adjustment."

Initially the FIA's action seemed like an odd halfway house solution. If the device existed and was being used, it was obviously illegal. If it didn’t exist or wasn’t being used, it seemed to be a mountain from a molehill. Perhaps the FIA was just doing enough to look like it was taking action, without actually suspecting/knowing/being able to prove there was a real problem.


But it does seem quite simple. The FIA hasn’t received any indication of such a system being "employed" for parc ferme changes. But, theoretically, it could be used in a way that would contravene the regulations. So, best to just scrub that prospect from existence.

"As part of this, we have implemented procedural adjustments to ensure that front bib clearance cannot be easily modified,” the FIA said.

"In some cases, this may involve the application of a seal to provide further assurance of compliance.”


That means taking steps to remove the mere possibility of a device being used in an illegal way.

Which seems like a neat solution unless any evidence emerges of klix wrongdoing - because suspicions alone count for nothing and 'potential illegality' isn't really a thing.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/what ... ally-mean/

[_BataZiv_0809]

Vidjet cemo kakvi ce biti nakon sto im se stavi pechat

[axe22]

U prevodu "Bili smo fini pa nismo htjeli koristit i ako smo mogli"

hhh

[BiBi911]

U prevodu "Bili smo fini pa nismo htjeli koristit i ako smo mogli"

hhh

Nestace ovo kao i potrosnja ulja, esp, LC...

[DaysleepeR]

Apsolutno niko relevantan niti trunke ne insinuira da je uređaj korišten da se krše pravila.

FIA-i su skrenuli pažnju da je uređajem eventualno moguće kršiti pravila, pa je uveden sistem (pečaćenje) kojim bi se to onemogućilo.

[axe22]

Apsolutno niko relevantan niti trunke ne insinuira da je uređaj korišten da se krše pravila.

FIA-i su skrenuli pažnju da je uređajem eventualno moguće kršiti pravila, pa je uveden sistem (pečaćenje) kojim bi se to onemogućilo.

Ma da, isto kao s ventilom kod redbulla za zadnje kocnice, ili zadnje krilo kod Mclarena , prednje krilo itd itd.

[Edin H.]

E čuj kasno u ponoć, subota na nedjelju
Ja ne znam jesam li freak ali ja ni radnim danima ne liježem prije 1.30h

Samo neka nije na sabahu

[Maliodmene]

Ferrari djeluje brzo

[Edin H.]

Colapinto dominira

Perez prekucao Piastrija

[Samprotivsviju]

Ma tooo lutko