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#149626 Re: Ukrajina

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Hercegoviina wrote: 07/03/2023 16:24
drug_profi wrote: 07/03/2023 15:47

Kako god heroj Šadura Timofej je izabrao da umre kao heroj, gledajući smrti u oči ne dajući svojim dželatima da se naslađuju mučeći ga, jer je sigurno shvatio da ga čeka takva sudbina.
Nije izabrao nego nije imao izbora.
Jesi li ti prirodno bezobrazan ili se posebno trudis ? Da si procitao sta je covjek napisao, mogao si vrlo logicno zakljuciti sam ovo sto ti je pojasnio, da ne kazem nacrtao...
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#149627 Re: Ukrajina

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drndalo wrote: 07/03/2023 16:19
sumirprimus wrote: 07/03/2023 15:38 sve vise i vise iz njemackih izvora ide pljuvacine prema ukrajincima, da li je nesto planski ili slucjanost vidjecemo.
Slucajnost? Jastaradi...
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Ja svabama nikada nisam vjerovao, samo gledaju svoju guzici i krosani su isti kao oni ako ne jos i groi, da nema SAD-a nebi poslali ni metka Ukrajini.
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#149628 Re: Ukrajina

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drug_profi wrote: 07/03/2023 16:25
Mogao je moliti za milost i plakati.
Izabrao je da umre na nogama i prkosno.
dakle:
heroj Šadura Timofej je izabrao da umre kao heroj
:thumbup: Stara japanska izreka kaže da čovjek u svojim posljednjim trenutcima spozna ko je on zaista.

A Šadura Timofey je prkosno umro kao heroj. Slava mu!
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#149629 Re: Ukrajina

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Ubijanje zarobljenika je protiv interesa vlstite vojske jer povecava sanse za negativan ishod rata.
Najbolji nacin da pobijedis jeste da se neprijatelj prestane boriti.
Ako zna da ce prezivjeti, u teskoj situaciji izabrace da se prestane boriti.
Ako je izvjesno da ga samo borba do zadnje kapi krvi moze sacuvati zivim, onda ce se pretvoriti u đavola.

I tako Ukrajinci sada znaju što znaju, a samo nek i dalje zarobljavaju ruse i čuvaju ih živim.
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#149630 Re: Ukrajina

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Ljudi, ako neko ima da mi objasni: "Ako ćemo biti kao zombiji, koji kurac se opiremo?".

https://uavideos.osintukraine.com/media ... 102877.MP4

Ne kontam što me osuđuju forumaši koji su na strani Dobra? Jebote, čitav život sam na istoj toj strani.
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#149631 Re: Ukrajina

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drndalo wrote: 07/03/2023 16:33
Hercegoviina wrote: 07/03/2023 16:24
Nije izabrao nego nije imao izbora.
Jesi li ti prirodno bezobrazan ili se posebno trudis ? Da si procitao sta je covjek napisao, mogao si vrlo logicno zakljuciti sam ovo sto ti je pojasnio, da ne kazem nacrtao...
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#149632 Re: Ukrajina

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dragma wrote: 07/03/2023 15:28
Među brojnim informacijama o egzekuciji ukrajinskog vojnika navodi se da je pomenutog heroja ubila grupa Rusič, neonacistička jedinica koja se bori u sastavu Vagnera u Ukrajini.
Suosnivač i komandant grupe Rusič je (neonacista) Aleksej Milčakov, 31-godišnjak koji nosi nadimak „Srbin i Fritz".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexey_Milchakov

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AvlAdolf Putler i njegov NeorušiSSta Rogozin su iznjedrili i odgojili ovog NeorušiSStu Milchakova, Prigozhina i njegove Wagnerovce.

The roots of neo-Nazism in Putin’s Russia
The origins of this relationship date to the late 1990s, when Russia was shaken by a wave of racist violence committed by neo-Nazi skinhead gangs. After Putin’s accession to the presidency in 2000, his regime exploited this development in two ways.

First, it used the neo-Nazi threat to justify the adoption of anti-extremism legislation, a longstanding demand of some Russian liberals. Ultimately, this legislation would be used to prosecute Russian democrats.

Second, the Kremlin launched “managed nationalism”, an attempt to co-opt and mobilise radical nationalist militants, including neo-Nazis, as a counterweight to an emerging anti-Putin coalition of democrats and leftist radicals.

Moving Together, a pro-Putin youth organisation notorious for its campaign against postmodernist literature, made the first move by reaching out to OB88, the most powerful skinhead gang in Russia.

This cooperation expanded in the aftermath of Ukraine’s Orange Revolution of 2004. To insulate Russia against the contagion of pro-democracy protest, the Kremlin transformed Moving Together into a more ambitious project called “Nashi”, or “Ours”.

As part of its preparations to confront a potential democratic uprising in Russia, Nashi enlisted football gang members, whose subculture overlapped with the neo-Nazi underground.

https://theconversation.com/putins-fasc ... zis-178535
Russian report annoys 'neo-Nazi' allies- Hoofdinhoud
Met dank overgenomen van EUobserver (EUOBSERVER) i, gepubliceerd op maandag 4 mei 2015, 18:58.
Auteur: Andrew Rettman
Russia has vexed some of its allies in extreme-right EU parties by calling them “neo-Nazis”.

It did so in a report entitled “Neo-Nazism - A Dangerous Threat to Human Rights, Democracy and the Rule of Law” published by the Russian foreign ministry on Monday (4 April).

The 121-page survey says the ideology of Adolf Hitler “[sic] gradually reappears in some regions of modern world, particularly in Western Europe, evolves and assumes new hideous forms”.

It gives a country-by-country analysis of the EU, naming several “neo-Nazi” parties, some of which have friendly ties with Russia.

Its list includes: the “Vlaams Blok” (now known as Vlaams Belang) in Belgium; The Danes party in Denmark; the NPD in Germany; and the BNP in the UK.

The four parties sent people to a congress in St. Petersburg, Russia, in March, which was organised by Rodina, a far-right Russian party founded by Dmitry Rogozin, who is Russia’s deputy PM and who is on an EU blacklist.

The event produced a declaration urging the EU to scrap Russia sanctions and describing Nato as “an instrument of dictatorship”.

The NPD, last November, also sent people to a congress in Berlin organised by Valdimir Yakunin, a hawkish Russian oligarch.

But in some cases the relationship is more personal.

Filip Dewinter, a leading Vlaams Belang member, told EUobserver on Monday he's “good friends” with Rogozin, whom he first met in Brussels.

He emailed this website a picture of himself shaking hands with Rogozin in Moscow last July.

The close ties make Monday’s publication the more needling, because Europe’s extreme-right parties are trying to court respectability.

“Rogozin is a good friend of mine and I will ask him to adjust this report”, Dewinter said.

“[Russian president] Putin is a strong and courageous political leader and I think we should work together on issues such as radical Islam. So I’m a little bit shocked that this report is now published”.

Udo Voight, an NPD deputy in the European Parliament, who attended the St. Petersburg meeting, told EUobserver: “Nobody in St. Petersburg called me a neo-Nazi or anything like that, so I’m very surprised”.

Daniel Carlsen, the chairman of The Danes, didn’t go to St. Petersburg, but took part in the congress by video-link.

He told EUobserer after reading the new Russian report that it’s “obviously wrong”.

The BNP also voiced annoyance.

Stephen Squire, its London branch spokesman, said he’s “puzzled” by Russia’s actions. “National Socialists all around Europe look to Russia as something to hold up”, he noted.

Simon Darby, the BNP’s national spokesman, noted that BNP ex-leader Nick Griffin went to St. Petersburg in a personal capacity after he stepped down.

“It’s disappointing [the Russian report] but it’s merely a swipe at what they see as the West … I don’t think people will take it very seriously", Darby said.

The report was published in the run-up to 9 May, when Russia celebrates its victory over Nazi Germany.

But it's part of a wider anti-EU and anti-Ukraine propaganda campaign and spends most of its time criticising the Baltic states and Kiev.
https://www.eumonitor.nl/9353000/1/j9vv ... art_tab1=5
Neo-Nazi Russian nationalist exposes how Russia’s leaders sent them to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians
01.10.2021

Dmitry Demushkin, a far-right Russian nationalist, has revealed details of how he was invited by the then Russian Deputy Prime Minister, Dmitry Rogozin, to gather nationalists to fight in Ukraine. Demushkin says he was initially approached by Rogozin in February 2014 and promised that he personally would be made ‘mayor’ of one of the cities in Donbas. There is no independent proof that such negotiations took place, however the machinations he describes fit very closely with those exposed by the ‘Glazyev Tapes’. These were intercepted calls between Russian President Vladimir Putin’s senior advisor Sergei Glazyev and various pro-Russian individuals in Crimea and other parts of Ukraine from 27 February to 3 March 2014. There is also evidence that other neo-Nazi and/or far-right activists were sent to Donbas.

https://khpg.org/en/1608809502

Russia's Racists (2004): A disturbing insight into how the Chechen conflict has shaped Russian public opinion and resulted in an explosion of neo-Nazism in Russia.
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#149633 Re: Ukrajina

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Slava Ukraini!
Slava herojima!
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Slava herojima!
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#149635 Re: Ukrajina

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Tymofiy Shadura je bio pripadnik 30.mehanizovane brigade, ako se potvrdi, da riječ o njemu, najmanje sto očekujem uskoro, da njegova brigada nosi njegovo ime! 30.mehanizovana brigada “ Tymofiy Shadura”. Slava heroju!
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#149636 Re: Ukrajina

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drndalo wrote: 07/03/2023 16:33
Hercegoviina wrote: 07/03/2023 16:24
Nije izabrao nego nije imao izbora.
Jesi li ti prirodno bezobrazan ili se posebno trudis ? Da si procitao sta je covjek napisao, mogao si vrlo logicno zakljuciti sam ovo sto ti je pojasnio, da ne kazem nacrtao...
Pa kad vidis sta pisu o ovom zlocinu maloruski guslari onda vidis da su gore smece od rusa.
Kazu kao to su Ukri obukli zarobljenog rusa. Ili kao to je nacista u cemu je problem.
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#149637 Re: Ukrajina

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Oryx je potvrdio da su Rusi, od početka agresije na Ukrajinu, do sada, izgubili 1800 tenkova.
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#149638 Re: Ukrajina

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Jel ovo neka kontraofanziva, vidim kolega iznad objavio zauzimanja rovova
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Rasputica.

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#149640 Re: Ukrajina

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Hame_ wrote: 07/03/2023 17:15 Ljudi, ako neko ima da mi objasni: "Ako ćemo biti kao zombiji, koji kurac se opiremo?".

https://uavideos.osintukraine.com/media ... 102877.MP4

Ne kontam što me osuđuju forumaši koji su na strani Dobra? Jebote, čitav život sam na istoj toj strani.
Uopste necu da kliknem na ovo sto si stavio jer mislim da znam sta je po tvom pisanju. Ne kontam samo sta hoces ? Koliko sam upratio, vecina ovdje je osudila ubijanje zarobljenika, pa i Rusa od neki dan (ako je snimak autentican)... Sta zelis, da to stalno ponavljamo, pa da onda izjednacimo te stvari? Mir, mir, niko nije kriv i tako to? Ili te ne kontam?

Sta zelis reci, da su svi isti? Svi ubijaju zarobljenike? Sta? Nisu svi isti da se na trepavicu nasadis, jedni brane kuce, a drugi im ih satiru, sa sve stanovnicima!
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U UK zbog neimastine restorani poceli peci vjeverice...

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Na Ukrajinsko ratište, Rusi šalju sve modernije i modernije naoružanje i vojnu opremu.
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#149643 Re: Ukrajina

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Počelo je. Legenda i heroj je rođena. Slava heroji!

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#149644 Re: Ukrajina

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Ovaj ukrajinski heroj sto su ga ovi nacisti likvidirali je prakticno etnicki Rus..a ne Ukrajinac..

Objektivno vise otpora daju Rusi iz Ukrajine s sjevera i iz Donjecke regije protiv Ruske Federacije nego Ukrajinci iz Lyovova ili Uyanova.

Onu kolonu rusku kod Harkiva su u sustini polomili i nagradili etnicki Rusi iz Ukrajine.
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#149645 Re: Ukrajina

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Koliko god da je Bahmut dugo ključna meta ruskih snaga i da je grad kao takav prilično okružen ipak većina medija danas tvrdi da Rusi ne drže više od 40% grada. Kada se na ovim klipovima pogleda stanje na putevima van grada i ovo užasno blato onda je lakše shvatiti da je ruskim snagama još teže i da je ova odluka da se grad ipak brani ispravna jer će Rusi u ovom blatu izgubiti ogroman broj i ljudi i tehnike.
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#149646 Re: Ukrajina

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Kaze Solovjev: Nije bas rat kakvog smo ocekivali...

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#149647 Re: Ukrajina

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Sociolog wrote: 07/03/2023 18:45 Ovaj ukrajinski heroj sto su ga ovi nacisti likvidirali je prakticno etnicki Rus..a ne Ukrajinac..

Objektivno vise otpora daju Rusi iz Ukrajine s sjevera i iz Donjecke regije protiv Ruske Federacije nego Ukrajinci iz Lyovova ili Uyanova.

Onu kolonu rusku kod Harkiva su u sustini polomili i nagradili etnicki Rusi iz Ukrajine.
Kakve to ima veze!? Čovjek se borio za Ukrajinu. Borio se pod zastavom Ukrajine. Zadnje njegove rijeci su bile “slava Ukraini”. U našoj armiji je bilo sličnih primjera. Ljudi koji su ginuli pod zastavom sa ljiljanima. Vinko Šamralić, Čedo Domuz, Mihajlo Petrović….on i oni su bili i biće heroji za koje sloboda i pravda nemaju cijenu!
Slava herojima!
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#149648 Re: Ukrajina

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drndalo wrote: 07/03/2023 18:34 U UK zbog neimastine restorani poceli peci vjeverice...

Kod mene veceras pohovane vjeverice sa pireom od spinata, al' nema ni spinata, pa gnjecimo najobicniju travu...al struja&gas su me oderali sto jest jest mater im jebem, jos se nisam oporavio od racuna, ali vise krivim ove breksitovce.
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#149649 Re: Ukrajina

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Prigožin ponovo provocira Šojgua, kaže da ga ovih dana nije sreo u Bahmutu. Po Prigožinu, u i oko Bahmuta i dalje se nalazi između 12 i 20 hiljada ukrajinskih vojnika pa grad može biti zauzet preko noći samo u glavama „genijalaca u Generalštabu ili u Sojuzmultfilmu“ (studiju za crtane filmove iz sovjetskog doba).
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#149650 Re: Ukrajina

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@CrveniKuk

Vjerovatno hoce reci da su i Rusi prozrijeli Ruse... ;-)
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