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#131627 Re: Ukrajina
Neki američki i evropski zvaničnici smatraju da ni Moskva ni Kijev nisu u stanju da svoje ciljeve ostvare na frontu i očekuju da će se tokom zime otvoriti prostor za diplomatsku soluciju, objavljuje NBC News.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation ... -rcna56190Western defense officials question Ukraine’s ability to remove Russian troops completely from occupied areas, and if military operations on the ground stabilize over the winter that could underline that neither side is likely to achieve its goal of controlling the whole country, the officials said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak publicly on matters of diplomacy.
“In the winter everything slows down,” said a Western official with direct knowledge of military operations. “The potential for talks, we would like to see that happening.”
The official pointed to a statement by Russia’s ambassador to the U.K. last week about the potential for negotiations as possible “messaging” toward a diplomatic path.
The Ukrainian official said that during his meetings with Zelenskyy’s government, Sullivan raised the need for a diplomatic resolution to the war and made the point that Ukraine’s leverage would be strengthened — not weakened — if it expressed openness to ultimately negotiating with the Russians. The official said that Sullivan had not tried to pressure Ukraine to enter into negotiations immediately or to take any specific steps. Instead, the official said, Sullivan expressed the view that Ukraine would able to maintain the support of Western allies better if it is perceived as being willing to reach an end to the conflict through diplomacy.
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Zumbul2
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#131628 Re: Ukrajina
Jel ovo Toma Nikolić??? +
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#131629 Re: Ukrajina
u jebote vidi gdje je ovo pravdine. meni je ovo na mojim internim mapama davno bilo ukrajinsko. jos mi samo recite da ovo juzno ova oleksandrivka, siroka barka i stanislav nisu pod ukr kontrolom vec 2 mjeseca i onda sam bas skroz otiso.....
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#131632 Re: Ukrajina
Sjećam se nekih slika sa obale kod Stanislava, a Tomyna Balka se spominjala kao zauzeta takođe. Nebih se iznenadio da su je izgubili u međuvremenu ali nisu objavili.
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#131635 Re: Ukrajina
Not great. Not terrible.
Bilo bi great da su rusisti ostali s druge strane velike vode, barem do iduće godine. Da ih vežu I iscrpljuju.
Bilo bi super da su im do proljeća tu došli sazad sa sjevera.
Bilo bi great da su rusisti ostali s druge strane velike vode, barem do iduće godine. Da ih vežu I iscrpljuju.
Bilo bi super da su im do proljeća tu došli sazad sa sjevera.
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#131636 Re: Ukrajina
+1karirana_dekica wrote: ↑09/11/2022 17:20Kako ba? Pa Vučić najavio hiljade tenkova. Možda ga je slučajno prenijelo.
I samo da prijavim da sam od 24.2. sve na temi pročitao, uključujući i dosta obrisanih postova.![]()
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#131638 Re: Ukrajina
e hajde da vidimo ima li dogovora. ako ih izrokaju i razvaljuju dok se povlace, nema. ali ja imam neki osjecaj da ima neki dogovor, jer ne bi ova dvojica to javno objavila. ovi ce ko iz marsalke, na drugu stranu miljacke i odmah u rovove na grbavici.
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sumirprimus
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#131641 Re: Ukrajina
Sad kad ukri udju u aleksandrivku 12ti put
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sumirprimus
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#131642 Re: Ukrajina
Nema sanse da ,ih ne zaspu, ove konvoje do dnjepra
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#131643 Re: Ukrajina
Ne bi to ameri ni dali da se boje toga.moke_31 wrote: ↑09/11/2022 15:08 NLAW, Javelin i Stinger pali u ruke Iranaca. Slijedi revers ižinjering i imamo kopije istih narednih godina. Rusi trampili za iranske dronove.
https://news.sky.com/story/russia-gave- ... s-12741742
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#131645 Re: Ukrajina
Malo o haubicama i sta ukri preferiraju i zbog cega
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#131646 Re: Ukrajina
Lijepi strah
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#131647 Re: Ukrajina
Jel bio ovaj bub?
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#131649 Re: Ukrajina
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