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SanskiBiser wrote: 10/10/2022 19:04
Naše vazdušno izviđanje otkriva kolonu ruske vojne tehnike, i ne samo to, ona je dignuta u vazduh i uništena raketnim sistemom "HIMARS".

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#124402 Re: Ukrajina

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CrveniKuk wrote: 10/10/2022 20:26 Slažem se. Orban je svojim odnosom prema Ukrajini prešao sve moguće granice prihvatljivog ponašanja. Mada, licno mislim, da mu je najteže palo sto se Ukrajina odbranila,jer u protivnom,bio je u dilu sa Rusijom da pripoji određeni dio Ukrajinske države.
EU dopustilaa Madjarskoj da uvozi rusku naftu a Srbiji zabranili :D a ovi u Cro jedva docekali pa im zvrnuli pipu :D. Sad ce Madjari uzimat lovu na transportu a Cro ce izgubiti pare od transporta :D. Hajd budi pametan .
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sumirprimus wrote: 10/10/2022 20:26
SanskiBiser wrote: 10/10/2022 20:22
Prvi post na stranici ovog Italijana detaljno je objasnjeno zasto je taj most izuzetno ranjiv na eksplozije i da ga uopste nije tesko ostetiti ni unistiti ili onesposobiti za koristenje. Ovo je Tom Cooper preporucio a i u komentarima ima zanimljivih detalja.
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Druze izhandri me ovaj most ako jos nesto o njemu napisem izaćce mi bubuljica na jeziku, odustajem :lol:
I da, nemam fejsbuk :)
From what I can see, making it as "prefabricated" as possible so that the materials that were supposed to be imported could be traded for something else. The bridge is well done but technically no big deal. It has all the characteristics of an overpass given that each section is practically a lean-reaning beam with paved on bulging beams and the whole load is supported by those two slender and high height longherons.
All features of a modern bridge but done in a hurry. If you pay attention there are pedestrian inspection crossings. Surely there are electrical and telecommunications connections. The fact that the railway passes next to the bridge is a reason for the rush. They could not afford a project for a bridge that contained both the platform for cars and trains (They would have had very tight tolerances for vibrations and scary loads) in two completely separate lines. So they separated things, but operationally they used the same building sites basically. Beyond the same geological prospects etc. Everything to the thrift store.
Excellent considerations but we also have to say that the bridge was built in a hurry and by European companies that to disguise it a bit because of the sanctions they had to adapt the project.
A bridge can NEVER be explosion proof.
The main problem is not in the type of grass but in the battery supports. The structure was not designed with seismic criteria, otherwise the supports would have foreseen the horizontal forces of the earthquake and would have prevented the fall of the two layers.
The type of beams is strange, because there are no links of the lower plates of the main beams. Let’s say that these bridges on the west were built 50 years ago
When in 1939-42 the English built the Alexandria - Marsa Matruh railway and then extended it to Sollum, they built it using military criteria.
This meant that the railway line was at least 100 meters away from the palified telephone line parallel to it, and another 100 meters from the aqueduct pipe (12”) pipe that carried Nile water along the Coastal Army stations His Majesty in Egyptian Land. Thus, an enemy attack or bombing could not have simultaneously destroyed rails, telephone and aqueduct.

This technique was completed by level crossings every 100 meters, in which the rails were flanked by concrete ramps to allow the line to be crossed. Trucks and cars in fact had serious difficulties passing over the uneven rails, risking crossroads every time. The cingolats on the other hand had no problems, but their crossing often overturned the rails.

Finally, in Sollum the English built a fake end-line station, completely identical to the real one, where the rails were strips of sheet metal cut from petrol barrels, there were fake barracks, dummies and wreckage of trucks, which every night you nivano moved to simulate normal traffic around a station up and running. The false station regularly attracted 50% of the Italian and German bombs, which would instead have all been focused on the real station had the English not staged this clever Maskirovska.

None of this was implemented by the Russians in the planning and construction of the Kerch Bridge: the two main roads and the two rail lines are all close to each other, and as it could be seen, an explosion damaged the whole work.

The Kerch Bridge also stands an aqueduct, since Crimea took water from the Dnipro before 2014, with a drain canal at the Nova Kakhovka Dam, which came to Crimea bringing irrigation to the fields and water to the houses. Then in 2014 Putin annexed Crimea, and in retaliation the Ukrainians covered up the channel. Crimea stayed dry for 8 years, and the Kerch bridge could at least carry water into the houses.
Reasonably, I believe the bridge also supported power and telephone lines, especially now that the bombings around the Enerhodar central seem to have cut Crimea off the central one.

Well, even these lines are integrated into the same structures as the bridge, without separation or distancing. A choice voted to the economy, obviously, but not to the military security of the link. Yet, the war was started by the one who built the bridge.


Finally, the structure of the bridge, at least the highway one, wasn’t designed in a way to withstand dynamic overloads such as explosions. Seen from below, the metal gateway is not reticular type, but with unboxed full beams, i.e. the least "transparent" to explosions.
On the contrary, the two very high and distant parallel beams seem to be designed on purpose to trap the force of an underlying explosion, which can thus disunite and displace the entire structure, which acts as a sail. Anti-seismic lateral grips are missing. The implants appear to be hung on outer shelves, and not locked inside boxed elements.

To understand the difference, just compare these photographs with those of the Genoa bridge that replaced Morandi, which was also built in a quick time and with a great urgency to complete the work.
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#124404 Re: Ukrajina

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Nespin wrote: 10/10/2022 17:16
General War wrote: 10/10/2022 16:41
Nebi ti, al kad mora mora, jel tako? 😁
A ne bi ti vadio ruski dick iz dupeta, al kad mora, mora?
Šta reče ono, "Ukrajinci iscenirali leševe"?
Suti i pusi, kad vec dajes.
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#124405 Re: Ukrajina

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Možda vam ovo pomogne u analizi. Krimski most.
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#124406 Re: Ukrajina

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CrveniKuk wrote: 10/10/2022 20:41 Možda vam ovo pomogne u analizi. Krimski most.
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#124407 Re: Ukrajina

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Hahaha...

Na kraju ispade da se oko ruske nafte i plina najviše krve mađari, hrvati i srbi.

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#124408 Re: Ukrajina

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Maliodmene wrote: 10/10/2022 20:33
SanskiBiser wrote: 10/10/2022 19:04

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#124409 Re: Ukrajina

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CrveniKuk wrote: 10/10/2022 20:41 Možda vam ovo pomogne u analizi. Krimski most.
Samira vraćam sa FOE liste :thumbup:
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Bobi wrote: 10/10/2022 20:34
CrveniKuk wrote: 10/10/2022 20:26 Slažem se. Orban je svojim odnosom prema Ukrajini prešao sve moguće granice prihvatljivog ponašanja. Mada, licno mislim, da mu je najteže palo sto se Ukrajina odbranila,jer u protivnom,bio je u dilu sa Rusijom da pripoji određeni dio Ukrajinske države.
EU dopustilaa Madjarskoj da uvozi rusku naftu a Srbiji zabranili :D a ovi u Cro jedva docekali pa im zvrnuli pipu :D. Sad ce Madjari uzimat lovu na transportu a Cro ce izgubiti pare od transporta :D. Hajd budi pametan .
Možda na kraju budemo točili kvalitetniji a skuplji dizel.
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SanskiBiser wrote: 10/10/2022 19:04
Naše vazdušno izviđanje otkriva kolonu ruske vojne tehnike, i ne samo to, ona je dignuta u vazduh i uništena raketnim sistemom "HIMARS".

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#124412 Re: Ukrajina

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CrveniKuk wrote: 10/10/2022 20:41 Možda vam ovo pomogne u analizi. Krimski most.
Ništa što dobar vulkanizer čekićem ne može ispraviti :D
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Bobi wrote: 10/10/2022 20:34 EU dopustilaa Madjarskoj da uvozi rusku naftu a Srbiji zabranili :D a ovi u Cro jedva docekali pa im zvrnuli pipu :D. Sad ce Madjari uzimat lovu na transportu a Cro ce izgubiti pare od transporta :D. Hajd budi pametan .
Da ironija bude veca, naftovod ide kroz Ukrajinu. Neke stvari se ne smiju dirati, dzaba sto je rat.
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od koga ukrajina kupuje/dobija neftne derivate?
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Gledam na srpskim portalima vlada totalna lobotomija, ne kontam kako mogu biti na strani Rusije. Čitav normalan svijet jedno a oni, Rusi i lukasenko na drugu stranu. Pa ni Kinezi vise ne podržavaju putlera.
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#124416 Re: Ukrajina

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CrveniKuk wrote: 10/10/2022 20:41 Možda vam ovo pomogne u analizi. Krimski most.
sve u staro zeljezo, samo zvati ekipu da rastavi :zzzz:
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Onaj pješački most, precizno su ga promašili :D
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#124418 Re: Ukrajina

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geralt wrote: 10/10/2022 20:33 :shock:

Ukrajinci objavili snimak presretanja krstarece rakete MANPADS-om, vjerovatno prvi put u vojnoj historiji. Za maksimalni ugodjaj ukljuciti zvuk.



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#124419 Re: Ukrajina

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konami666 wrote: 10/10/2022 21:08 Gledam na srpskim portalima vlada totalna lobotomija, ne kontam kako mogu biti na strani Rusije. Čitav normalan svijet jedno a oni, Rusi i lukasenko na drugu stranu. Pa ni Kinezi vise ne podržavaju putlera.
Napisao bih ti jedan cuveni pasus o laganju na srpski nacin, ali cu opet dobiti ban....
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Današnji napadi na mapi koju je objavio Zalužni.

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drug_profi wrote: 10/10/2022 15:45 krivi smo svi mi, ali dobrim dijelom i izolacija od Europe, koja nam je drzala vize pa zatim sumanute maksimalisticke zahtjeve za pristup EU.
Ne treba napominjati kao su Bugari i Rumuni upali, a mislim da Bugari jos nisu ispunili standarde EU ni dan danas.
Ovaj region je trebao uci u EU i u EU se reformisati dok ti dolaze investicije, radna mjesta, daok ljudi putuju i razmjenjuju studente, uce jedni od drugih.
Sta da ocekujes od ljudi koji su od svijeta vidjeli samo Tursku ili Maleziju.
kakvu oni reformu imaju na umu?
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splinter wrote: 10/10/2022 19:37

Odleti glava ko točak golfa dvojke na Romaniji
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Sada su suncokreti.
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jedan🌻 u blatu južnog fronta
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SanskiBiser wrote: 10/10/2022 18:34 PREMIJERNO na forumu prvi snimak dejstva ukrajinskog kamikaza drona RAM II unistavanje ruskog PVO sistema OSA :shock:
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agent_zero wrote: 10/10/2022 21:20
drug_profi wrote: 10/10/2022 15:45 krivi smo svi mi, ali dobrim dijelom i izolacija od Europe, koja nam je drzala vize pa zatim sumanute maksimalisticke zahtjeve za pristup EU.
Ne treba napominjati kao su Bugari i Rumuni upali, a mislim da Bugari jos nisu ispunili standarde EU ni dan danas.
Ovaj region je trebao uci u EU i u EU se reformisati dok ti dolaze investicije, radna mjesta, daok ljudi putuju i razmjenjuju studente, uce jedni od drugih.
Sta da ocekujes od ljudi koji su od svijeta vidjeli samo Tursku ili Maleziju.
kakvu oni reformu imaju na umu?
Tačno.
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