Ukrajina

[hatemondays]

Vidim tema puna likova koji predvidjaju crnjak za Ukrajinu, Evropu, pritisak na Ameriku zbog gladi u svijetu...dok Rusija bez problema ostvaruje ciljeve, uzima Odesu, izlazi na Moldaviju. Uzalud vam trud sviraci, Ukrajina, SAD i VB su se navalili na kosti Rusima, a najbolje tek dolazi.

Ima da ih ovi nasi poderu ko zvecku pa makar svih pomrli od gladi, nikad vise Icar i ostala sranja. Nego stancajmo municiju a ti Milokrade potpisuj ta izvoz da poguramo bracu u nevolji. A onda spektakl sa Kinom, evo oh cackaju po nasim vodama ove Salomonce cemo ostaviti gladne samo sto su pomislili da se utale sa CCP. CCP, CCCP i CCCC cudna ekipa u zajednickom cilju zele razjebati normalni svijet.

[Mrljavi]

Nestasica hrane na svjetskom nivou znaci povecane cijene na Zapadu i smrt miliona u zemljama koje na Rusiju gledaju kao na prijateljsku zemlji i nerijetko zastitnika od Zapada. Putin se malo preracunao u ovoj ucjeni, nesto ne vjerujem da ce mu proci "ukinite mi sankcije ili cu izazvati glad i pomor u zemljama naklonjenim Rusiji".
Neki novi migrantski val bi docekali puskama na prvoj granici, od toga nema nista.

[Čitalac]

Guardian o diplomatskom natezanju između zapadnih saveznika Ukrajine. Evropski lideri ne slažu se oko toga da li je moguća saradnja sa Putinom jednom kada se rat privede kraju, koje vrste naoružanja treba poslati Kijevu i konačno da li je Ukrajina spremna da se odrekne teritorije. Unutar NATO je, navodno, postignut neformalni dogovor da određene vrste naoružanja neće biti upućene u Ukrajinu. Uz to, ono što je obećano - poprilično kasni. U tromosti prednjači Berlin.

Marie-Agnes Strack-Zimmermann, chair of the Bundestag Defense Committee and a member of the Free Democrat party, said: “It must not be that at the end of the war the world sees Germany as a complete brakeman and loser just because we are unable to organise and communicate.”
Early in the conflict Germany proposed quickly supplying Ukraine with heavy weaponry in a “ring system” – whereby eastern European countries such as Poland and the Czech Republic would provide Soviet-era tanks to Ukraine, with these being replenished by modern German Leopard tanks. Whether the failure to achieve this yet is due to bureaucratic inertia, cynical procrastination or a reflection of the depleted state of the German armed forces is hard to unravel.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... kraine-war

[pici]

Bidenova administracija sprema se poslati Ukrajini oružje koje ta zemlja već neko vrijeme traži kao prioritet broj jedan.

Napredni raketni sustavi dugog dometa sada su glavni zahtjev ukrajinskih dužnosnika, a konačna odluka mogla bi biti najavljena sljedećeg tjedna. piše CNN

Visoki ukrajinski dužnosnici, uključujući predsjednika Volodimyra Zelenskog, molili su posljednjih tjedana da SAD i njihovi saveznici osiguraju višestruki raketni sustav (MLRS). Oružani sustavi proizvedeni u SAD-u mogu ispaliti seriju raketa stotinama kilometara, mnogo dalje od bilo kojeg sustava koje Ukrajina već ima. Ukrajinci tvrde da bi to mogla biti prekretnica ​​u njihovom ratu protiv Rusije.

Drugi sustav koji je Ukrajina tražila je topnički raketni sustav visoke pokretljivosti (HIMARS), koji je sposoban ispaljivati seriju raketa kakve koriste i višecijevni bacači raketa

Bidenova se administracija tjednima nećkala oko toga hoće li poslati sustave, zbog straha da bi Ukrajinci mogli koristiti te sustave za ofenzive napade na ruskom teritoriju, rekli su američki dužnosnici za CNN.

Amidza salje nove igračke.

[pici]

gospodja Sana Marin premijerka Finske.

Prelijepa, pametna, obrazovana, kulturna... nema dalje.

[Mrljavi]

Dosta jak snimak, ovaj put uz dodatak snimljen dronom.

[Zumbul2]

Stiže nova kanadska isporuka 155 tica

Prva isporuka su bile cijele 4 haubice.

[pici]

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Ne preporucuje se ljudima sa ptsp-om da pogledaju ovo..

uhhhhh ruzno se prisjetit al dok zvizdi ode ona preko, najgore je kad pljusne i poslije par minuta ne kontas gdje si poso ni gdje si doso.

[pici]

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Dosta jak snimak, ovaj put uz dodatak snimljen iz drona.

uhhhh i ovaj je snimak... odo jednu ljutu drmnut

[Mrljavi]

Evo momcina iz Armenije, nakon sto su im se Azeri nane nanine, odlucili su da zele i da im Ukrajinci milu majku.

[mirota]

Putin je stari KGB-ovac.
Mislim da imaju puno zvaracajucih taktika.
Uzeli su luke u azovskom moru, ja mislim da im je cilj Odesa i odsjeci Ukrajinu totalno od mora i time vrsiti pritisak.
Ocigledno je da im nije poslo sve po planu ali sumnjam da mi znamo njihove stvarne ciljeve.

Al vidjeti cemo sve, ja sam nekako ubjedjen da im je taktika uzeti pola ukrajine i sve izlaze na more.
Odesa mi je interesantna, mogla bi biti bitka kao u Staljingradu.

To je to. Odsjeci ih od mora, doci na granicu sa Moldaijom u koju se mogu lako usetati. Samim to znaci pritisak na Balkan, nece biti veselo Rumuniji. Ostaivti zapadnu Ukrainu kao slijepo crijevo, okruzenu i sa izbombardovanom infrastrukturom. Rusi ako moraju zrtvovati milion ljudi oni ce ovo ostvariti. Jedino rjesenje ovome je totalno ekonomska blokada, stop uvoza nafte i plina po svaku cijenu.

Uh zao mi Ukraijaca ceka ih pakao. Nadam se da nisam u pravu sto se tice redova iznad i da se moze desiti neki drugi scenario i iznenadni obrt. Uglavnom war games gdje Amerima odgovara sto duzi rat, a Rusi su izgleda prisiljeni na dugi rat.

oba ste rekli sve realno...svaka cast

[sumirprimus]

An Independent Legal Analysis of the Russian Federation’s Breaches of the Genocide Convention in Ukraine and the Duty to Prevent

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Executive Summary

This report comprises an independent inquiry into whether the Russian Federation bears State
responsibility for breaches of the Genocide Convention in its invasion of Ukraine and concludes there are:
1) reasonable grounds to conclude Russia is responsible for (i) direct and public incitement to
commit genocide, and (ii) a pattern of atrocities from which an inference of intent to destroy the
Ukrainian national group in part can be drawn; and
2) the existence of a serious risk of genocide in Ukraine, triggering the legal obligation of all States
to prevent genocide.
I. The Protected Group. The Ukrainian national group is recognized domestically, internationally,
and expressly by Russia in formal interstate relations and is thus protected under the Genocide
Convention.
II. Incitement to Genocide. Under Art. III (c) of the Genocide Convention, direct and public
incitement to commit genocide is a distinct crime whether or not genocide follows.
III. Russia’s State-orchestrated Incitement to Genocide.
a) Denial of the Existence of a Ukrainian Identity. High level Russian officials and State
media commentators repeatedly and publicly deny the existence of a distinct Ukrainian
identity, implying that those who self-identify as Ukrainian threaten the unity of Russia
or are Nazis, and are therefore deserving of punishment. Denial of the existence of
protected groups is a specific indicator of genocide under the United Nations guide to
assessing the risk of mass atrocities.
b) Accusation in a Mirror. “Accusation in a mirror” is a powerful, historically recurring
form of incitement to genocide. A perpetrator accuses the targeted group of planning, or
having committed, atrocities like those the speaker envisions against them, framing the
putative victims as an existential threat and making violence against them seem defensive
and necessary. Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian officials did exactly this,
making the utterly false claim that Ukraine had committed genocide or exterminated the
civilian population in Russian-backed separatist-controlled areas, as their pretext for
invading Ukraine.
c) “Denazification” and Dehumanization. Russian officials and State media repeatedly
invoke “denazification” as one of the main goals of the invasion and have broadly
described Ukrainians as subhuman (“zombified,” “bestial,” or “subordinate”), diseased or
contaminated (“scum,” “filth,” “disorder”) or existential threats and the epitome of evil
(“Nazism,” “Hitler youth,” “Third Reich”). This rhetoric is used to portray a substantial
segment or an entire generation of Ukrainians as Nazis and mortal enemies, rendering
them legitimate or necessary targets for destruction.
d) Construction of Ukrainians as an Existential Threat. In the Russian context, the Stateorchestrated incitement campaign overtly links the current invasion to the Soviet Union’s
existential battles with Nazi Germany in World War II, amplifying the propaganda’s
impact on the Russian public to commit or condone mass atrocities. On April 5, 2022,
Dmitry Medvedev, current Deputy Chair of the Russian Security Council, posted:
“having transformed itself into the Third Reich … Ukraine will suffer the same fate …
what it deserves! These tasks cannot be completed instantaneously. And they will not
only be decided on battlefields.” The day before the widely celebrated Victory Day,
marking the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany, President Putin sent a Telegram to
Russian-backed separatists claiming Russians are fighting “for the liberation of their
native land from Nazi filth,” vowing that “victory will be ours, like in 1945.” The
Russian Orthodox Church has publicly reinforced this historical parallel and praised
Russia’s fight against Nazis.
e) Conditioning the Russian Audience to Commit or Condone Atrocities. The Russian
Federation authorities have denied atrocities committed by its forces and rewarded
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soldiers suspected of mass killing in Ukraine, enabling soldiers to commit, and the
Russian public to condone, further atrocities. These authorities are able to directly incite
the public by funnelling and amplifying its propaganda through a controlled media
landscape and extreme censorship around the war. The purveyors of incitement
propaganda are all highly influential political, religious, and State-run media figures,
including President Putin. There is mounting evidence that Russian soldiers have
internalized and are responding to the State propaganda campaign by echoing its content
while committing atrocities. Reported statements by soldiers include: threats to rape
“every Nazi whore,” “hunting Nazis,” “we will liberate you from Nazis,” “we’re here to
cleanse you from the dirt” (following a public execution), among others.
IV. Genocidal Intent. What distinguishes genocide from other international crimes is the “intent to
destroy, in whole or in part, [a protected group], as such.” This intent can be attributed to a State
through evidence of a general plan (derived from official statements, documents, or policy) or can
be inferred from a systematic pattern of atrocities targeting the protected group. The five
genocidal acts — killing, causing serious harm, deliberately inflicting physically destructive
conditions of life, imposing birth prevention measures, and forcibly transferring children to
another group — can also point towards genocidal intent when viewed in their totality.
a) A Genocidal Plan. A “general plan” to destroy the Ukrainian national group in part may
be demonstrated by the incitement to genocide driving the current invasion or by the
striking patterns or methods of atrocities suggesting military policy.
V. Genocidal Pattern of Destruction Targeting Ukrainians.
a) Mass Killings. Investigations have determined that Russian forces have rounded up
Ukrainian civilians for mass executions across occupied territory, marked by a pattern of
common killing methods — hands tied, tortured, and shot in the head at close range. The
well-documented Bucha massacre may indicate consistent tactics employed by Russian
forces across currently inaccessible occupied areas. The number of mass graves in
Russian controlled areas are rapidly expanding, as documented by investigators and
satellite imagery, though the full extent of the killing will not be known until access to
sites controlled by Russian forces are secure.
b) Deliberate Attacks on Shelters, Evacuation Routes, and Humanitarian Corridors.
Russian forces are systematically attacking shelters and evacuation routes with precision,
indicating military policy, killing and trapping civilians in besieged or conflict areas.
c) Indiscriminate Bombardment of Residential Areas. Russian forces have extensively
used inherently indiscriminate weapons with wide-area effect, or cluster munitions,
targeting densely populated areas in at least eight of Ukraine’s oblasts (provinces).
d) Russian Military Sieges: Deliberate and Systematic Infliction of Life-Threatening
Conditions. While bombarding Ukrainians in besieged areas from within and without,
Russian forces have simultaneously and deliberately inflicted life-threatening conditions
on them.
i. Destruction of Vital Infrastructure. Russian forces follow a similar pattern in
besieging Ukrainian cities, first striking water, power, and communication
sources, and further targeting medical facilities, grain warehouses, and aid
distribution centers, suggesting a military strategy and policy of deliberately
inflicting fatal conditions on Ukrainians. These coordinated actions by the
Russian military to deprive Ukrainians of basic necessities and trap them under
these destructive conditions tend to demonstrate that the sieges are calculated to
bring about their physical destruction.
ii. Attacks on Health Care. As of May 25, the World Health Organization has
documented 248 attacks on Ukraine’s health care system.
iii. Destruction and Seizure of Necessities, Humanitarian Aid, and Grain.
Russian forces have destroyed and seized vast stores of grain, including
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expropriating hundreds of thousands of tons to Russia, and repeatedly blocked or
seized humanitarian aid or workers seeking to evacuate civilians, using starvation
as a weapon of war.
iv. Other Sites of Life-Threatening Conditions. Russian forces have held
Ukrainian civilians at other sites where they are deprived of basic necessities, at
times leading to more immediate deaths by suffocation or starvation.
e) Rape and Sexual Violence. Reports of sexual violence and rape in Russian-occupied
areas of Ukraine suggest a widespread and systematic pattern, including gang rape, rape
in homes or shelters, rape of parents in front of children and vice versa.
f) Forcible Transfer of Ukrainians. Russia has reported the relocation of over one million
people from Ukraine to Russia since the invasion began, including over 180,000 children.
Refugees and officials have reported being transferred by force or threat of force.
According to Ukrainian officials, Russian legislation is being reformed to expedite the
adoption of children from the Donbas, while Ukrainian children forcibly sent to Russia
are forced to take Russian classes. The forcible transfer of Ukrainian children to Russia is
a genocidal act under Art. II(e) of the Genocide Convention.
VI. Intent to Destroy the Ukrainian National Group in Part. The intent to destroy a group “in
part” has been understood to require the targeting of a substantial or prominent part of the group.
This threshold, however, scale of atrocities targeting Ukrainians must be assessed relative to
Russia’s area of activity or control. Russian forces have left a trail of concentrated physical
destruction upon retreat from occupied areas, including mass close-range executions, torture,
destruction of vital infrastructure, and rape and sexual violence. The selective targeting of
Ukrainian leaders or activists for enforced disappearance or murder is further evidence of intent
to destroy the Ukrainian national group in part, as those figures are emblematic of the group or
essential to the group’s survival.
VII. The Duty to Prevent Genocide. States have a legal obligation to prevent genocide beyond their
borders once they become aware of the serious risk of genocide — a threshold that this report
clearly establishes has been met, of which States cannot now deny knowledge. The Genocide
Convention imposes a minimum legal obligation on States to take reasonable action to contribute
toward preventing genocide and protecting vulnerable Ukrainian civilians from the imminent risk
of genocide.
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This report has been produced with the contributions of, and upon consultation with, numerous
independent experts, including the following:
...

This report is the first to address one of the more contentious and consequential questions of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine: whether the war is genocidal in character. With fighting still ongoing, modern tools have made it vital that this question be examined and its truth made known.

With the word genocide so commonly used — and similarly disputed — allowing for a looseness of definition is unhelpful. A clear reckoning of the facts using the opportunities of modern methods of investigation together with legal analysis pursuant to applicable law is essential.

This is a project of the New Lines Institute and the Raoul Wallenberg Centre for Human Rights, which assembled three teams of experts to assess the subject. This included a team of legal scholars and genocide experts, a second group of open-source intelligence investigators, and linguists who were able to make use of the extensive primary source record this war has already created — of communications intercepts and testimonials.

The New Lines Institute and Raoul Wallenberg Centre have done extensive work on the Rohingya and Uyghur genocides — including producing the first report to make a determination of genocide in Xinjiang applying the 1948 Genocide Convention.

This report reasonably concludes that Russia bears State responsibility for breaches of Article II and Article III (c) of the Genocide Convention to which it is bound. The report also concludes that there exists undoubtedly a very serious risk of genocide, triggering States’ duty to prevent under Article I of the Genocide Convention.

This is the first report of its kind, but not the final word on the subject. We hope more will follow.

Dr Azeem Ibrahim

Director, Special Initiatives


vise na izvoru
https://newlinesinstitute.org/wp-conten ... vent-2.pdf

[Mrljavi]

Prije par dana rublja dostigla petogodisnji maksimum od 0.018$, danas na 0.015$. Samo zapazanje, treba malo pratiti narednih dana.

[Milenkov buraz]

To je to. Odsjeci ih od mora, doci na granicu sa Moldaijom u koju se mogu lako usetati. Samim to znaci pritisak na Balkan, nece biti veselo Rumuniji. Ostaivti zapadnu Ukrainu kao slijepo crijevo, okruzenu i sa izbombardovanom infrastrukturom. Rusi ako moraju zrtvovati milion ljudi oni ce ovo ostvariti. Jedino rjesenje ovome je totalno ekonomska blokada, stop uvoza nafte i plina po svaku cijenu.

Uh zao mi Ukraijaca ceka ih pakao. Nadam se da nisam u pravu sto se tice redova iznad i da se moze desiti neki drugi scenario i iznenadni obrt. Uglavnom war games gdje Amerima odgovara sto duzi rat, a Rusi su izgleda prisiljeni na dugi rat.

oba ste rekli sve realno...svaka cast

Samo nije Ukrajina ta koja prisiljava Rusiju na bilo šta već Rusija prisiljava Ukrajinu. Nisu Rusi prisiljeni na dugi rat, tj. jesu ako smatramo da Ukrajinci ne smiju da se brane i da treba da se puste da ovo što prije završi, onda tom logikom Rusi jesu "prisiljen"i na dugi rat.

[CrveniKuk]

Putin je stari KGB-ovac.
Mislim da imaju puno zvaracajucih taktika.
Uzeli su luke u azovskom moru, ja mislim da im je cilj Odesa i odsjeci Ukrajinu totalno od mora i time vrsiti pritisak.
Ocigledno je da im nije poslo sve po planu ali sumnjam da mi znamo njihove stvarne ciljeve.

Al vidjeti cemo sve, ja sam nekako ubjedjen da im je taktika uzeti pola ukrajine i sve izlaze na more.
Odesa mi je interesantna, mogla bi biti bitka kao u Staljingradu.

To je to. Odsjeci ih od mora, doci na granicu sa Moldaijom u koju se mogu lako usetati. Samim to znaci pritisak na Balkan, nece biti veselo Rumuniji. Ostaivti zapadnu Ukrainu kao slijepo crijevo, okruzenu i sa izbombardovanom infrastrukturom. Rusi ako moraju zrtvovati milion ljudi oni ce ovo ostvariti. Jedino rjesenje ovome je totalno ekonomska blokada, stop uvoza nafte i plina po svaku cijenu.

Uh zao mi Ukraijaca ceka ih pakao. Nadam se da nisam u pravu sto se tice redova iznad i da se moze desiti neki drugi scenario i iznenadni obrt. Uglavnom war games gdje Amerima odgovara sto duzi rat, a Rusi su izgleda prisiljeni na dugi rat.

Sve je tačno,ali sto bi se narodski reklo "prvo skoči,pa onda reci hop"

[mirota]

Rusi su ovo planirali godinama i sigurno da ce sve uloziti da osvoje sto su zamislili...sumnjam da im je Kijev bio cilj, grad od 3 miliona da osvojis, pa ne bi za 2 god...cilj je Donbas i Lugansk i komplet crno more, ako se NATO ne umijesa, tesko da ne ostvare to i da onda to prvo sami priznaju kao Krim, a onda ce neke zemlje radi plina i nafte precutno priznati..

[zigzag]

Rusi su ovo planirali godinama i sigurno da ce sve uloziti da osvoje sto su zamislili...sumnjam da im je Kijev bio cilj, grad od 3 miliona da osvojis, pa ne bi za 2 god...cilj je Donbas i Lugansk i komplet crno more, ako se NATO ne umijesa, tesko da ne ostvare to i da onda to prvo sami priznaju kao Krim, a onda ce neke zemlje radi plina i nafte precutno priznati..

jel ide pohvala za putina kao mastera ?

[90minut]

Rusi su ovo planirali godinama i sigurno da ce sve uloziti da osvoje sto su zamislili...sumnjam da im je Kijev bio cilj, grad od 3 miliona da osvojis, pa ne bi za 2 god...cilj je Donbas i Lugansk i komplet crno more, ako se NATO ne umijesa, tesko da ne ostvare to i da onda to prvo sami priznaju kao Krim, a onda ce neke zemlje radi plina i nafte precutno priznati..

100% im je bio Kiev cilj brate, al' nije u smislu da su planirali da se bore za svaku mahalu pojedinacno..

Vec je to trebao biti napad iznenađenja s najboljim ruskim padobrancima i naravno racunali su dace se ukrajinci sasrati..

A i jesu se sasrali samo eto ipak je bilo određenog otpora pa su odbili napad.

Da je bio promil tog otpora kod Marijupolja ne bi nikad rusi opkolili isti o Hersonu da ne pricam.
Mnogo slab otpor usudicu se reci i patetican.

[sumirprimus]

super je ovo putler isplaniro vidi se da je genij, od 2008me planira i na ovo izadje alal mu vera ,i jos pride ukopa sve svoje satelite i saveznike al za medalju
1.20 ruje gube u konacnici, a sa njima i njihova zlocinacka politika!

[mirota]

grad od 3 mil osvojiti sa 200 padobranaca, hahaha...ne budi smijesan...a odbrana postavljena, pa nisu Ukri vjeverice, zna se da se glavni grad brani od 1. momenta...prije je to bila taktika Ruja da odvuku paznju od istoka, msm, ma ovom taktikom sve razvali pa osvoji, ne bi Kijev za 6 mjeseci...a vala rusiti onako lijep grad sumnjam da su htjeli

[karirana_dekica]

grad od 3 mil osvojiti sa 200 padobranaca, hahaha...ne budi smijesan...a odbrana postavljena, pa nisu Ukri vjeverice, zna se da se glavni grad brani od 1. momenta...prije je to bila taktika Ruja da odvuku paznju od istoka, msm, ma ovom taktikom sve razvali pa osvoji, ne bi Kijev za 6 mjeseci...a vala rusiti onako lijep grad sumnjam da su htjeli

popušili ga. pridruži im se, salonac

[sumirprimus]

ja ba nisu htjeli ni kijev, ni harkiv, ni sumi, ni černihiv, nisu htjeli zatrt ime ukrajina, nece ni sad samo postavljaju zastave nako..
Slava UKRAJINI, SLAVA HErojima, i svim branteljima drzave Ukrajine!

[zigzag]

Ma taktika čudo jedno. Izginu djeca, izginu specijalci, pokaže se da je ruska vojska k..c od ovce ali hepijevci kažu to je plan maestra.

[drug_profi]

naravno da nisu htjeli. Htjeli su usetati kao oslobodioci. Ponijeli svecane uniforme. Ali malo ih razBučalo.....

[sumirprimus]

Have their been Russian advances--definitely. Maybe at its most extreme 10 miles. (2 miles a day at the most extreme), but the Pentagon description makes alot of sense (at least to me).
Also goes with Ukrainian defense communiques, which imply that combat intensity in the last day or so has decreased significantly. Their update this morning said yesterday the Russians lost 1 tank 5 APCs and 5 artillery systems in Donetsk/Luhansk.