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branitelji mariupla u azovstalu!
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Jutarnje iznenadjenje za Ruse u Izumu
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Ovaj GIS Art je nekakav revolucionarni ukrajinski softver.


Ukraine has developed and refined a groundbreaking artillery targeting solution that is, in many ways, better than anything else out there. It’s not U.S. tech. It’s not Israeli tech. It’s homegrown. At the heart of it is Ukraine’s “GIS Art for Artillery” software package, written by Yaroslav Sherstyuk — one of many talented earth observation / geospatial (GIS) specialists working in Ukraine.
Sherstyuk's software is reminiscent of Uber or Lyft's taxi software. It’s a true distributed software environment that assigns targets to the nearest gun, mortar, rocket launcher, drone or SF team. The software can coordinate targeting among a distributed group of multiple guns, with multiple trajectories, spanning a whole front, all focused on hitting one target at one time. Just like Uber can get you a ride much faster than calling a cab company switchboard, “GIS Art for Artillery” can dramatically reduce the time “from call to trigger pull” — from around 20 minutes, to around 30 seconds.
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Ork Vulture down
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Nego, idemo malo s teorijama.

Izgleda su se Rusi u opstoj bjezaniji povukli do granice s Rusijom.
Vjerujem da ce nova Linija u Harkivskoj oblasti biti kod Vovchanska. To jest specificno kod gradica Buhruvatka do Ohirtseve na rijeci Sjeverni Donets.
Nesto nisam siguran da ce Ukrajinci pokusati frontalni napad na Vovchansk koji je zadnje uporiste na Karkivskom frontu a od izuzetne strateske vaznosti za Ruse da ga imaju u svojim rukama.
Ukrajincima i nije bitno jer je sad citava ta regija u dometu Artiljerije i suicide dronova.

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S time vec sad se moze reci da je Izum izgubio 50% logistike, ne trajno doduse sad ce morati da ide daleko vise istocno i ouno duzim putem.
Belgorod doduse postaje beznacajan u logistickom smislu.
Nema smisla drzati tu centre pa onda putovati satima dalje prema Istoku da bi se mogao spustiti do Kupianska.

Sto se tice Ukrajinaca, ne znam iskreno sta dalje kod Harkiva.

Logicno bi bilo preci Sjeverni Donetsk rijeku ali to bi ih izlozilo zasjedama i artiljerijskim napadima na potencijalne Pontone.

Imaju dva izbora za prelazak rijeke.

Sjeverni izmedju Rubizhne (Karkiv) i Ohirtseve, znam veoma dugacko podrucje ali ne mogu znati gdje tu je rijeka uska i pogodna za pontune ali ima gradica na drugoj strani obale koje Rusi vjerovatno drze.

Drugi pravac je Juznije izmedju Pechenihy i Chkalovske (ruska kontrola)

Tu je problem blizina Izuma i veoma brojnih Ruskih snaga i artiljerije.
Nije tajna da se zestoke borbe vode kod tog dijela fronta.

E sad jedna moja luda teorija, koja je cak preluda i za Ukrajince :lol:

Ima jedan sigurica put do Vovchanska gdje su mostovi i dalje tu a nisu ni minirani i spremni za Rusenje :lol:
Al previse ludo

Al evo

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Preko Rusije :lol: ovo bi bio tezak psiholoski sok za Ruse da im ovo Ukrajinci urade.

Doduse nije ni ovo bez rizika, mislim iskreno da Sama Ruska teritorija nije ukopana kao npr u Donbasu.
Jedna jaca iznenadna akcija i Rusi bi bili u malo vecim govnima :lol:
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Ovi su sretni, izvukli se. 8)
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Mrljavi wrote: 11/05/2022 08:52
sumirprimus wrote: 11/05/2022 06:36 Malo OT :mrgreen:

Znaci ipak su izbili au golemo sad je sva ligisitika na udaru
Ovo je definitivan slom ofanzive iz pravca Izyuma. Sad kad su ovi logisticki pravci u dometu artiljerije, vulkanizeri ce raditi i trecu smjenu. Uz onako kvalitetne gume na ruskim vozilima, nije bas pozeljno da vozis putevima prekrivenim gelerima. :izet:
A,u Izjumskom klinu sve "elita i gardisti"...4.gardijska tenkovska,47.gardijska tenkovska,144.gardijska moto-streljacka,106.gardijska VDV divizija i 237.tenkovski puk 3.motorizovane divizije.
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https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukrai ... 598e3d0f57
frisak Tom Cooper ako ko ima vremena neka stavi highlights na temu. :thumbup:
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Po njegovom slijedi okruzenje Severnodonecka i odsjecanje ili opkoljavanje svega do Popasne.
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Da kaze kod Bilhorivke su mozda postavili 4 ili 5 pontuna za koje Ukrajinci ne govore.
I da je situaciju tu i kod Popasne kriticna i da bi se ta dva pravca mogla spojiti i okruziti reon Severodonetska, Rubizhne...

Ali nor za Popasnu se ne slazem, dosla su pojacanja tu i Rusi se nisu pomakli dalje od Popasne.
Kod Bilhorivke jucer se pricalo o oko 30 unistenih vozila.
Odoh vidjeti na Firms dal ima sta cudno
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lajkujMe wrote: 11/05/2022 10:25

Jutarnje iznenadjenje za Ruse u Izumu
Sta je ovo, cime ga zveknu? Jbt udarnog talasa :-)
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Ovaj Brimston su Rusi uhvatili :izet:
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Ukraine War, 11 May 2022
Can’t help it: I’m still not happy with developments along the Siversky Donets. Therefore, here another ‘quick and dirty’ update, explaining the ‘why’.

The reason is…. well, a mix of ‘total silence at the top’ and ‘usual bragging at the bottom’ on the Ukrainian side.

To start with, nothing of the following is anything like ‘official’: at most, it’s a ‘collection of bits and pieces of information’, topped by plenty of deduction based on past experiences.

What I know about the situation by now is described on this map.
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here it’s worth paying attention at the following:

Over a month ago, there was a similar situation south of Izium: the Russians attacked in a pincer movement around both flanks of the town. Breached through on the western side, threw two pontoon bridges over Siversky Donets, crossed the river and pushed forward.
All the unofficial Ukrainian sources reacted with, ‘ah, no problem, we’ve destroyed them’, followed by photos/videos of ‘destroyed pontoon bridges & sunken tanks and other vehicles’.
Now check the maps ever since: it’s obvious that was — at most — a temporary success. Actually, yes, they knocked out one bridge, but the Russians used the other to keep on crossing and then kept on steamrolling further south. By now we all know how the battle went on and where they are (i.e. the RFA is certainly not back to Izium).
In the case of this ‘Siversky-Bilohorivka situation’, me thinks the situation is much worse. Reasons are something like this:

AFAIK, all the available official Ukrainian sources are zip-lip about this battle, exactly like in the case of the Russian break-through south of Izium;
all the available unofficial sources are talking about the destruction of one or two bridges,
sole official release I’ve found is mentioning the destruction of just one bridge near Bilohorivka, while
(unofficial) Russian sources are clearly pointing out they’ve constructed (at least) four bridges, and
something like destruction of two crucial bridges is not mentioned by any of Ukrainian sources known to me.
Another reason to worry are UAV-photos like the following two series. Arguably, they might indicate something like, ‘we have them in sight, everything is under control’. Sorry, having somebody/something in sight is one thing, actually destroying that somebody/something — an entirely different affair. On the contrary, gauging by the number of (perfectly intact) armoured combat vehicles that can be counted on these photos, it seems that the RFA is ‘coming down’ to just one bridge with an entire BTG (about 50–60 armoured vehicles). And that is just one of bridges, and then one I’m assessing as ‘decoy’: keep in mind, there are three other such bridges.
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Gauging by the number of bridges reported by Russian sources, this means the RFA has engaged ‘at least’ four BTGs for this operation — along a frontline of about 10km.

Now add what I’ve said about the Russian Army, and its relations to ‘bridges’ and ‘bridgeheads’, yesterday, plus the — relative — proximity of this area to the central section of the LOC, especially to the Popasna area, where there is now another major RFA concentration (including a BTG of Wagner PMC and at least one of the 150th Motor Rifle Division).

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Already a quick look at the map is likely to explain everything else: a rapid advance from Bilohorivka to Popasna — a distance of about 45km by the road T1302 — would bypass Ukrainian fortifications in the Lysychansk area, and close the encirclement of a major group of Ukrainian forces in the Severodonetsk area. Indeed, it would collapse the entire northern sector of the LOC — or at least encircle it. What’s more: contrary to day-dreaming about ‘strategic-level’ of advances from, for example, Izium on Barvinkove and then Zaporizhzhia, the RFA has the troops and suplies necessary to run this kind of , ‘operational-level’ enterprise.
nema sta kuper ide skroz, za ove koji vole sve da citaju :D ostali da preskavcu haha ima i drugih tema :lol: :kiss: :thumbup:
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Ma jok, nije Bolhirivka uopste pala. Gledam sad na Firms sva artiljerijska paljba je skoncentrisana s Druge strane rijeke da su prosli gorilo bi uzasno kod Bilohorivke.
Popasna borbe se vode u nekom industrijskom dijelu kod Popasne bas moram vidjeti sta je tu
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lajkujMe wrote: 10/05/2022 19:32
TomANDJerry wrote: 10/05/2022 19:29 Nikoga ovdje nije briga za Ruse (barem mislim) nego kako da se dodje do toga da Ukrajinci ne moraju svaki dan se baviti granatama i tenkovima --- nego da se vrate traktorima (mozda ne bas najbolji primjer :D )

U Donbasu ce linije fronta vjerovatno postati neka vrsta de-facto granice, Harkiv ce Rusi napustiti, Mariupolj nece --- ostaje ovaj jug oko Hersona i Melitopolja (pitanje je da li bi Ukrajinci prihvatili i prekid vatre dok je to okupirano)
Nikad, apsolutno nikad nece pristati da Marijupolj, Herson i Melitpol budu Ruski.
Oni ovo cak posmatraju kao jedinstvenu priliku da se rjese Rusa za sva vremena.
Zamrznuti konflikt im nece ici u prilog nikako i oni to znaju.
Plus, nije Bajden tek tako rekao da ce prevrnuti i nebo i zemlju da Rusi ne pobjede.
Pomogli vec sa $40 milijardi, otvoren LL, a ako treba cifre ce ici i x5 vise samo da Ukrajina ne izgubi ovaj rat. 8-)
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samo brate znas sta je 45 kilometara, gdje se bore za svaki kilometar krvavo...ima tu da se prodje ko odavde do kladnja bogte :lol:
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Komyshuvaka tu se vode borbe kod Popasne.
Manji gradic par km od Popasne
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Ima Bosne_Bice Bosne wrote: 11/05/2022 11:01
lajkujMe wrote: 10/05/2022 19:32

Nikad, apsolutno nikad nece pristati da Marijupolj, Herson i Melitpol budu Ruski.
Oni ovo cak posmatraju kao jedinstvenu priliku da se rjese Rusa za sva vremena.
Zamrznuti konflikt im nece ici u prilog nikako i oni to znaju.
Plus, nije Bajden tek tako rekao da ce prevrnuti i nebo i zemlju da Rusi ne pobjede.
Pomogli vec sa $40 milijardi, otvoren LL, a ako treba cifre ce ici i x5 vise samo da Ukrajina ne izgubi ovaj rat. 8-)
Da te ispravim, pomogli su s 3 mlrd do sada, a tek sad krece 40 mlr pomoc!
Tako da nije ni 10% onoga doslo sto Ameri misle poslati
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A_A_AKCIJA wrote: 11/05/2022 09:01 Uh, jutros pročitam vijest na jednom pro-ruskom portalu da je Ministarstvo Odbrane Ukrajine potvrdilo gubitak nekoliko helikoptera na Zmijskom ostrvu. Još naveli imena pilota.

I ne bude mi mrsko, rovi, traži, nema nigdje vijesti.

Nisu normalni, majke mi. Pa ta propaganda može proći kod apsolutno nepismenih osoba.

Dakle, u 100% uzorku, kada god sam uzeo da provjerim slične informacije, ispostavi se da je laž.

Naravno, u pretrazi sam naišao na još gomile i gomile lažnih vijesti o Zmijskom ostrvu.

Ukratko, nemamo pojma šta se dešava. Rusi oborili pazi sad, 32, dakle TRIDESET DVA drona od čega jedanaest Bayra, u ovo dan dva frke oko ostrva. Tu su još

Pet aviona
Tri desantna broda
Tri transportna helikoptera
Jedan jurišni helikopter
Jedna korveta (da, brod korveta, brod :D )
78 vojnika

Aaaahahahahahahahah hahahahahahahaha
Pa za njih nema nikakve nade :D
Potezi ocajnika.
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Inace, ocekujte danas nove Bayro snimke.

Jucer su 2 brodica krenuli prema Zmijskom.
1 vec ne mogu da pronadju na satelitu :lol:
I to onaj sto je nosio vjerovatno jos jedan Tor.
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