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Nagorno Karabah
- Porodice Foht
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#13977 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Tacno. Ovdje to nije niti realno ocekivati jer na terenu su samo -bacuske i to narednih 5 godina. Turci dodju nesto kao nadzorni odbor u gradjevinarstvu, ali onako ''online''. Time su pokusali umiriti mitomane i najzesce nacionaliste u NK i Armeniji.detroit-mercy wrote: ↑10/11/2020 13:11Ko je Kod nas razoruzao napaljene jedinice. Kad ljudi potpisu, Mozes do ujutro vikat nedam i necuPorodice Foht wrote: ↑10/11/2020 12:24I meni tako izgleda na prvu, ali operacije su kostale jako puno gubitka dobro obucene vojske Azerbejdzana (ovaj novinar gore spominje 1000 vojnika, a vjerovatno je vise), bio im je potreban odmor. Aliyev racuna de facto da s Turcima u miru zavrsi ono sto nije na terenu. Nece to biti lahko, valja maknuti Ruse nakon 5 godina. Ne vidim da se spominje demilitarizacija, sto je kljuc. Ko ce razoruzati one napaljene lokalne jedinice u Karabahu?
Puno je pitanja, ali Aliyev i Tayyip su nesumnjivo pobjednici.![]()
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sumirprimus
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#13978 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Samo se sjete tb2 a ide i tb3 i same puske spadaju i "preko zita"...
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Milenkov buraz
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#13979 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Turska je pokazala sebi ali i svijetu da je ozbiljan, vrlo ozbiljan igrač. Naravno ne kažem da su u ravni sa Amerima, Rusima i Izraelom ali mislim da imaju potencijala, što bi rekli znaju znanje, ne jebu zapadne licemjere tipa Francuska, rade svoj posao, korak po korak, gledaju svoj interes. Volio ne volio Tursku današnja Turska je miljama daleko od one nekadašnje anemične Turske opterečene nekim istorijskim greškama i potezima.sumirprimus wrote: ↑10/11/2020 14:30 Samo se sjete tb2 a ide i tb3 i same puske spadaju i "preko zita"...
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saimidin
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#13980 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Nije ova karta dobra, to zeleno na sjeveru kalbajar, pola ostaje AR, u sredi lachin koridor presiroko je to I nece ukljucivati sushu
Ma tek se moraju dogovoriti detalji, jer AZ ne priznaju ni bivsu AO NK, oni su to u medjuvremenu podijelili na neke svoje rajone, zato je zabuna na sjeveru sad je po AZ kalbajar duplo veci nego 88, sa druge strane vecinska susha je bila u sastavu AO NK 88, sad nece biti ...
U principu AR ce dobiti pola od AO NK iz 88 I koridor sirine 5 km, trenutno po sadasnjem putu lachin-xankendi(stepanakert), a u roku 5 godina ce napraviti novi put, ovaj ce ostati AZ jer su uz njega vecinski zivjeli AZ
- Porodice Foht
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#13981 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Priznali Armenci 81 ubijenog soldata u borbama za Shushu!
https://m.haqqin.az/news/193549
https://m.haqqin.az/news/193549
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sumirprimus
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#13982 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Nauk i od koga kupovat oruzje.(izrael turska) I sa kime u savez ici. Nato standard je Nato standard. Ni turci ovo ne bi bili da nisu u natou.Milenkov buraz wrote: ↑10/11/2020 14:38Turska je pokazala sebi ali i svijetu da je ozbiljan, vrlo ozbiljan igrač. Naravno ne kažem da su u ravni sa Amerima, Rusima i Izraelom ali mislim da imaju potencijala, što bi rekli znaju znanje, ne jebu zapadne licemjere tipa Francuska, rade svoj posao, korak po korak, gledaju svoj interes. Volio ne volio Tursku današnja Turska je miljama daleko od one nekadašnje anemične Turske opterečene nekim istorijskim greškama i potezima.sumirprimus wrote: ↑10/11/2020 14:30 Samo se sjete tb2 a ide i tb3 i same puske spadaju i "preko zita"...
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saimidin
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#13983 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Jedino sto je cudno ne spominje se buduci status krnjeg NK, niti da ce se voditi razgovori o njegovom statusuSanskiBiser wrote: ↑10/11/2020 13:49 U noći 10. novembra, jermenski premijer i predsjednici Azerbejdžana i Rusije potpisali su zajedničku izjavu . Dogovorili su se da prekinu neprijateljstva u Nagorno-Karabahu i uvedu ruski mirovni kontingent u region. Prva koja je objavila tekst izjave „bez promjena ili skraćenica“ bila je web stranica novinske agencije „Sputnik Jermenija“. Tada su je preštampali mnogi drugi mediji. Kremlj je tekst zajedničke izjave službeno objavio tek popodne i razlikovao se od prvobitne. Uporedili smo dva teksta zajedničke izjave i pokazali njihove razlike.
Kako čitati ovaj materijal. Tekst koji je bio u prvobitno objavljenom sporazumu, ali je nestao iz dokumenta na web stranici Kremlja, prekrižen je. Istaknut je tekst koji je prisutan samo u dokumentu na web stranici Kremlja.
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Ostalo je ok, naravno ako AR ne budu radili da u narednih 20-30god vracaju ovo sve, sto s obzirom na stanje hronicne mitomanije nije nemoguce
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Milenkov buraz
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#13984 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Slažem se ali isto tako nisu sjedili i čekali već su radili na sebi, konkretno na modernizaciji svoje vojske, proizvodnji naoružanja, usavršavanju tehnoogije, razvoju, istraživanju...nisu samo kao recimo HR što radi kupuje oružane sisteme to radi malte ne svaka banana država i to Tursku izdvaja od tih banan država u koje i mi spadamo jbg.sumirprimus wrote: ↑10/11/2020 14:48Nauk i od koga kupovat oruzje.(izrael turska) I sa kime u savez ici. Nato standard je Nato standard. Ni turci ovo ne bi bili da nisu u natou.Milenkov buraz wrote: ↑10/11/2020 14:38Turska je pokazala sebi ali i svijetu da je ozbiljan, vrlo ozbiljan igrač. Naravno ne kažem da su u ravni sa Amerima, Rusima i Izraelom ali mislim da imaju potencijala, što bi rekli znaju znanje, ne jebu zapadne licemjere tipa Francuska, rade svoj posao, korak po korak, gledaju svoj interes. Volio ne volio Tursku današnja Turska je miljama daleko od one nekadašnje anemične Turske opterečene nekim istorijskim greškama i potezima.sumirprimus wrote: ↑10/11/2020 14:30 Samo se sjete tb2 a ide i tb3 i same puske spadaju i "preko zita"...
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sumirprimus
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#13985 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Azeri imaku drzavu. Pod 1.
Pod dva imaju lovu. Ogromnu za nase uslove. Znqci mogu finansirat.
Imaju direktnog saveznika regionalnu silu.spremnu da potegne za njih. To se tice i namjenske proizv.
I imaju volju. Trajala je ova priprema nije od juce.
Pod dva imaju lovu. Ogromnu za nase uslove. Znqci mogu finansirat.
Imaju direktnog saveznika regionalnu silu.spremnu da potegne za njih. To se tice i namjenske proizv.
I imaju volju. Trajala je ova priprema nije od juce.
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saimidin
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#13986 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Nije bas tako, evo ga tekst iz moskve, a on ce biti vazeci:BRT wrote: ↑10/11/2020 13:06Kontrola koridora nema veze sa mirovnoim snagama. Rusi ostaju na oba koridora bez obzira na situaciju sa mirovnim snagama.neko_sa_strane wrote: ↑10/11/2020 13:03 Postoji začkoljica. Ako Azeri budu tražili od Rusa da odu u tom slučaju Azeri i Jermeni preuzimaju kontrolu nad Lachin odnosno Meghri koridorima. Ko garantuje da neće opet blokirati transport jedni drugima?
3. Na liniji dodira u Nagorno-Karabahu i duž lačinskog koridora raspoređen je mirovni kontingent Ruske Federacije u količini od 1.960 vojnika sa malokalibarskim oružjem, 90 oklopnih transportera, 380 jedinica automobilske i posebne opreme.
4. Mirovni kontingent Ruske Federacije raspoređuje se paralelno s povlačenjem jermenskih oružanih snaga. Trajanje boravka mirovnog kontingenta Ruske Federacije je 5 godina s automatskim produženjem za naredna petogodišnja razdoblja, ako se nijedna od strana ne izjasni 6 mjeseci prije isteka perioda namjere da prekine primjenu ove odredbe.
Znaci mirovni kontigent je samo u AZ, jedan te isti za krnji NK I koridor lachin
S tim da ako AZ posalju ruse kuci, I preuzmu koridor, pocnu zaustavljati I sl, naravno da ce AR odmah zatvoriti I meghiri koridor
Sustina nije ovo primirje, sa mirovnjacima, sustina je da oni sada trebaju mirovni ugovor, koji ce definisati gdje je granica, I nivo autonomije NK, za sto treba povjerenje I da se ohlade glave, pa kad god u narednih 5 godina
Ovo je pat pozicija, I najgore bi bilo da se AR samo pocnu spremati za rat, jer oni stvarno nemaju sanse, ne vidim kako je moguce bez da im rusi (eventualno iran mada nema sanse) osvoje to koliko oni zele AZ I jos pride izvrate AZ ko siriju da ne ostane kamen na kamenu, a to nije realno
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#13987 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Neće, nidô Dragi Bog.... Pu, Pu, Pu sile nečiste...Milenkov buraz wrote: ↑10/11/2020 14:23Moj Pici neće valjati ako bude za Bošnjake navij'o, gluho bilo, pu, pu, pu![]()
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saimidin
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#13988 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Evo info zasto nema nista o statusu krnjeg NK
President Ilham Aliyev: This statement contains not single word about status of Nagorno-Karabakh
I would like to mention one more issue, President of the Republic of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev said addressing the nation on Nov. 10.
“You probably noticed that this statement contains not a single word about the status of Nagorno-Karabakh! Where are the demands of the Armenian side that Nagorno-Karabakh should be granted independence? When I offered them autonomy, they did not agree, they said no, it is an “independent state”. For many years, they have been living as an “independent state” and must gain independence from Azerbaijan. Not a word, Pashinyan! What happened? What is it, Pashinyan? This will probably remain the talk of the town for many years. What happened, Pashinyan? You were going to pave a road to Jabrayil. You danced. But where is the status? The status went to hell, it failed, it was scattered to smithereens, it is not and will not be there. As long as I am President, there will be no status,” the head of state said.
“Therefore, this document is of great importance. I am sure that the Azerbaijani people, having shown great attention to this document, will read it in detail, with great attention, and they will see how great a political victory we have won,” Azerbaijani president said.
Drugim rijecima dobit ce nesto kao srbi na kosovu, savez srpskih opstina,
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Sto je I logicno za cca 50-60k AR koliko ce ih najvise biti nakon ovoga tamo, sto je manje od 1% stanovnika AZ
President Ilham Aliyev: This statement contains not single word about status of Nagorno-Karabakh
I would like to mention one more issue, President of the Republic of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev said addressing the nation on Nov. 10.
“You probably noticed that this statement contains not a single word about the status of Nagorno-Karabakh! Where are the demands of the Armenian side that Nagorno-Karabakh should be granted independence? When I offered them autonomy, they did not agree, they said no, it is an “independent state”. For many years, they have been living as an “independent state” and must gain independence from Azerbaijan. Not a word, Pashinyan! What happened? What is it, Pashinyan? This will probably remain the talk of the town for many years. What happened, Pashinyan? You were going to pave a road to Jabrayil. You danced. But where is the status? The status went to hell, it failed, it was scattered to smithereens, it is not and will not be there. As long as I am President, there will be no status,” the head of state said.
“Therefore, this document is of great importance. I am sure that the Azerbaijani people, having shown great attention to this document, will read it in detail, with great attention, and they will see how great a political victory we have won,” Azerbaijani president said.
Drugim rijecima dobit ce nesto kao srbi na kosovu, savez srpskih opstina,
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Sto je I logicno za cca 50-60k AR koliko ce ih najvise biti nakon ovoga tamo, sto je manje od 1% stanovnika AZ
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#13989 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Sa terena
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sitni svercer
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#13990 Re: Nagorno Karabah
znaci imace pravo da osnuju kulturno umjetnicko drustvo a objektivno nisu zasluzilisaimidin wrote: ↑10/11/2020 15:23 Evo info zasto nema nista o statusu krnjeg NK
President Ilham Aliyev: This statement contains not single word about status of Nagorno-Karabakh
I would like to mention one more issue, President of the Republic of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev said addressing the nation on Nov. 10.
“You probably noticed that this statement contains not a single word about the status of Nagorno-Karabakh! Where are the demands of the Armenian side that Nagorno-Karabakh should be granted independence? When I offered them autonomy, they did not agree, they said no, it is an “independent state”. For many years, they have been living as an “independent state” and must gain independence from Azerbaijan. Not a word, Pashinyan! What happened? What is it, Pashinyan? This will probably remain the talk of the town for many years. What happened, Pashinyan? You were going to pave a road to Jabrayil. You danced. But where is the status? The status went to hell, it failed, it was scattered to smithereens, it is not and will not be there. As long as I am President, there will be no status,” the head of state said.
“Therefore, this document is of great importance. I am sure that the Azerbaijani people, having shown great attention to this document, will read it in detail, with great attention, and they will see how great a political victory we have won,” Azerbaijani president said.
Drugim rijecima dobit ce nesto kao srbi na kosovu, savez srpskih opstina,
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Sto je I logicno za cca 50-60k AR koliko ce ih najvise biti nakon ovoga tamo, sto je manje od 1% stanovnika AZ
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sumirprimus
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#13991 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Ima onaj klip na telegramu gdje alijev proziva i trola pasu 
Nema odgovora pase. Toliko o statusu nk...
Nema odgovora pase. Toliko o statusu nk...
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Novosti
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#13993 Re: Nagorno Karabah
U pravu je Alijev, nigdje se ne spominje status ADA-e i NKR-a. Tako je to kad rješavaju problem neke države koje nemogu riješt problem ni u vlastitom dvorištu.
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#13994 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Azeri će vjerovatno sad od Šuši i svog dijela Karabaha da naprave megalopolis
naseljavati raznim metodama nešto kao što su Srbi Vojvodinu naseljavali i promijenili etničku sliku.
To je legalno i to niko ne može zabraniti.
Ovamo od Karabaha prema Armeniji isto plus kasarne u svakom selu.
Ostaje Stepankert kao Srbima Vukovar,tu su ali ne smiju glave dignuti,imaš pravo na kulturnoumjetničko društvo,maternji jezik u školi uz državni i kapak.
To je legalno i to niko ne može zabraniti.
Ovamo od Karabaha prema Armeniji isto plus kasarne u svakom selu.
Ostaje Stepankert kao Srbima Vukovar,tu su ali ne smiju glave dignuti,imaš pravo na kulturnoumjetničko društvo,maternji jezik u školi uz državni i kapak.
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Benjo34
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#13995 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Al ovo "savezništvo" Rusije i Turske je toliko neprirodno, kad tad ce zakuhat
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saimidin
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#13996 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Kod AR sok I nevjerica, neznam sta cekaju u jerevanu, sto ne stave muda u tackice( mislim da ne bi bilo zdravo da im se vuku po putu) I lagano pjehe krenu za NKsumirprimus wrote: ↑10/11/2020 15:32 Ima onaj klip na telegramu gdje alijev proziva i trola pasu
Nema odgovora pase. Toliko o statusu nk...
Al precjednik je bog, kaze ja vidio na fejsu da smo kapitulirali
Armenian News - NEWS.am presents the latest developments on the Nagorno-Karabakh clashes as of 10.11.2020:
• Armenia PM Nikol Pashinyan took to his Facebook to declare that he signed a statement with the presidents of Azerbaijan and Russia to end the war in Artsakh.
"I have made a difficult, very difficult decision for myself and for all of us," he started. "The text of the statement - that has already been published - is unspeakably painful for me personally and for our people."
The truce, announced late on Monday night, calls for the deployment of nearly 2,000 Russian peacekeepers to the conflict zone, where Azerbaijan will receive significant territorial concessions from an Armenian government.
Artsakh president Arayik Haroutyunyan, in turn, noted: "I do not know how history will assess the decision made yesterday, but we had to."
Meanwhile, the president of Armenia Armen Sarkissian said he learned from the press that a statement was signed.
• Russia was scheduled to start deploying peacekeeping forces in Karabakh at 7 am local time.
The first four planes, which carry out the transfer of Russian peacekeepers have already taken off from Russia.
Later it became known about the flight of the five more such planes.
About 1,960 servicemen, 90 armored vehicles, and 380 vehicles and special equipment will be transported to deploy Russian peacekeeping troops in the conflict zone.
• Armenian protesters stormed the government building Tuesday night immediately after a peace deal was announced. According to them, they are not going to surrender the lands.
There were scenes of chaos.
A clash took place between Armenian parliament speaker Ararat Mirzoyan and these protesters near the government mansions.
The protests continued on Tuesday. The people have closed off Baghramyan Avenue that runs along with the parliament premises, demanding the cancellation of the peace deal.
• Armenian PM told the people why there was no public informing in advance about the statement being signed on the Artsakh war.
According to him, 'the content of that statement is not good for us.'
Pashinyan added that when you present the content to the public, you should also explain why you do such a thing.
"If you do that simultaneously with the hostilities, with that, you also reveal some of your weaknesses to the adversary. And if suddenly it is not signed, or the adversary gains an advantage by knowing your weaknesses, this in some way affects further processes and, in general, the defense capacity and combat-readiness," he said.
• Active combat operations are suspended on the entire front line of Artsakh and relative calm is being maintained from 06:00 am on Tuesday, the Armenian defense ministry reported.
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Milenkov buraz
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saimidin
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#13998 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Otprilike, ali mislim da ce ovaj khojaved ostati pod kontrolom ARNespin wrote: ↑10/11/2020 15:35Mislim da je ovo realna karta:saimidin wrote: ↑10/11/2020 14:39Nije ova karta dobra, to zeleno na sjeveru kalbajar, pola ostaje AR, u sredi lachin koridor presiroko je to I nece ukljucivati sushu
Ma tek se moraju dogovoriti detalji, jer AZ ne priznaju ni bivsu AO NK, oni su to u medjuvremenu podijelili na neke svoje rajone, zato je zabuna na sjeveru sad je po AZ kalbajar duplo veci nego 88, sa druge strane vecinska susha je bila u sastavu AO NK 88, sad nece biti ...
U principu AR ce dobiti pola od AO NK iz 88 I koridor sirine 5 km, trenutno po sadasnjem putu lachin-xankendi(stepanakert), a u roku 5 godina ce napraviti novi put, ovaj ce ostati AZ jer su uz njega vecinski zivjeli AZ
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#13999 Re: Nagorno Karabah
sve ce se ovo iseliti u zapadne zemlje, ostati ce samo sirotinja i stariji da ostave kosti tu; imat ces vikend izlete i povremene explozije domace populacije (dijaspore) ono da kazu da je njihovo i to je to
takodjer, ruska baza na privremeno il dugorocno na terenu nesto kao u armeniji, ostaje da se vidi
takodjer, ruska baza na privremeno il dugorocno na terenu nesto kao u armeniji, ostaje da se vidi
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#14000 Re: Nagorno Karabah
Satrah se trazec postove ova dva padobranca.....Nisam mogao da nadjem onaj sa loncem al evo i ovaj je dobar.....Nadzornik wrote: ↑13/10/2020 20:42O Kiki legendo,jesi li malo odmorio...Kikibombona wrote: ↑13/10/2020 20:37 Azeri opet, po ko zna koji put, slagali da su uzeli Hadrut. Nevjerovatno.
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