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#13301 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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Stakes are higher za ženu. Osim što se može reproducirati tek jednom godišnje, dok muškarac jednim ejakulatom teoretski može oploditi četvrtinu ženske populacije planete Zemlje, za nju je reprodukcija resursno-intenzivan proces. Drugim riječima, ona u reprodukciju ne unosi samo jajnu ćeliju, nego sebe cijelu. Tijelo, um, ponekad i život. Samim tim, žena je seksualno izbirljivija, žena je ta koja se pita hoće li biti seksa ili neće.

Ima na Ju Tubu social experiment gdje ženska pita 100 random muškaraca da li žele spavati s njom, a onda isto pitanje ponovi muškarac prema 100 random žena. Namjerno je izabran Amsterdam zbog liberalnog settinga.

Ukratko, zaključak je da prosječna žena može zaustaviti prvog muškarca kojeg sretne ako želi seks, dok muškarac neće povaliti ni kada upita njih stotinu. Što odgovara i na pitanje Bloo o prostituciji.

Ali nas ujedno i vraća na pitanje promiskuiteta kod žena kao fenomena.
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#13303 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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Feminizam se tako dobro slaže uz ostale ublehe, mržnjom zadojene mase, tipa "black lives matter".
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#13304 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 18:20 Feminizam se tako dobro slaže uz ostale ublehe, mržnjom zadojene mase, tipa "black lives matter".
U pravu si. Intersekcionalni feminizam ukršta feminizam i bilo koji drugi pokret za koji smatraju da je ugrožen - alphabet people, crnci, transosobe, muslimani itd.

Naročito je paradoksalan unholy savez između feminizma i islama pri kojem se prvi bori za jednakopravnost žena u svakom smislu, dok islam tretira žene kao drugotne, isto tako u svakom smislu. :mrgreen:

Ne znam kako feministkinje mire u sebi kognitivnu disonancu tog tipa, verovatno svakog ko ukaže na tu nelogičnost nazovu mizoginim i/ili islamofobom i mirna Bosna.

Postoji i odličan mim koji kaže islam is right about women, gde biraš jesi li islamofob ili mizogin. :-D
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#13305 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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Bloo wrote: 10/10/2020 15:41
dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 01:10
saint_mirad wrote: 10/10/2020 00:51

I medju feministkinjama postoje ostre debate is sex work real work ili je to svodjenje zene na hodajucu picku? Gledano sa strane, ovo drugo je mnogo blize istini i sigurno nije zanimanje koje bi neko pozeleo za sopstvenu cerku.
Znam. I slažem se. Međutim, žalosna činjenica je da dok bude potražnje za ovim, dotle će biti onih koji će se baviti time. I ako je već
tako, treba se pružiti sva zakonska pomoć i regulativa, kao i sve ostale stvari koje se podrazumijevaju kad se baviš bilo kojim poslom.
I naravno, kroz edukaciju pokušati smanjiti potrebu za ovim. Ali ne treba zabranjivati, jer će to dovesti samo do povećanja ilegalnog
tržista, a znamo da tu nema nikakve zaštite ni sigurnosti.
Pokusaj drugacijeg pristupa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_mo ... ostitution
Da, mislim da si spominjala ovaj metod i ranije ali (iz ovog wiki članka):
Amnesty International opposes this type of legislation and calls for the repeal of these laws. The Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) and the United Nations Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women (UN Women) first favored the decriminalization of
sex work, but then changed its position to neutral.

Some academics have argued that there is insufficient evidence that this form of legislation actually reduces demand, others have argued that prostitution is not reduced, but simply pushed underground
Kriminalizacija ovih koji koriste usluge je samo drugi vid zabrane. Rizičniji, ali će opet mnogi od njih rizikovati da dobiju ono što
traže ilegalno. Isto kao i uživaoci opijata.
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#13306 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 18:20 Feminizam se tako dobro slaže uz ostale ublehe, mržnjom zadojene mase, tipa "black lives matter".
Sve je do žena, crnih ljudi, gayeva, transrodnih, a nikada do takvih kao što si ti. :roll:
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dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 18:41
S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 18:20 Feminizam se tako dobro slaže uz ostale ublehe, mržnjom zadojene mase, tipa "black lives matter".
Sve je do žena, crnih ljudi, gayeva, transrodnih, a nikada do takvih kao što si ti. :roll:
A šta ti imaš protiv crnih ljudi, što baš njih spomenu?

Jesi li znao da je među spomenutim pokretom ogroman broj bijelaca(vjerovatno većina)?

Zašto si baš izdvojio crnce, šta se krije iza toga?
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#13308 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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Mislim da je doslo do suma u komunikacijskom kanalu.
Ja o prostituciji, on o razmnozavanju.
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#13309 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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Bloo wrote: 10/10/2020 19:02 Mislim da je doslo do suma u komunikacijskom kanalu.
Ja o prostituciji, on o razmnozavanju.
Nije šum jer je biološka pozadina temelj za postojeće odnose u prostituciji.
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#13311 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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saint_mirad wrote: 10/10/2020 19:06
Bloo wrote: 10/10/2020 19:02 Mislim da je doslo do suma u komunikacijskom kanalu.
Ja o prostituciji, on o razmnozavanju.
Nije šum jer je biološka pozadina temelj za postojeće odnose u prostituciji.
I u prostituciji i uopšteno u društvu.
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#13312 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 19:00
dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 18:41
S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 18:20 Feminizam se tako dobro slaže uz ostale ublehe, mržnjom zadojene mase, tipa "black lives matter".
Sve je do žena, crnih ljudi, gayeva, transrodnih, a nikada do takvih kao što si ti. :roll:
A šta ti imaš protiv crnih ljudi, što baš njih spomenu?

Jesi li znao da je među spomenutim pokretom ogroman broj bijelaca(vjerovatno većina)?

Zašto si baš izdvojio crnce, šta se krije iza toga?
Ko je izdvojio crnce? :D I odakle ti informacija da BLM čine većinom bijelci? A i da ima bijelaca, u čemu je problem? U čemu je
problem da se neko suosjeća sa problemima drugog ljudskog bića i bori protiv rasizma čije su najveće žrtve u Americi upravo
afro amerikanci? Zašto je to ubleha? Je li bila ubleha i pokret Martina Luthera Kinga?
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#13313 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 19:08
S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 19:00
dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 18:41

Sve je do žena, crnih ljudi, gayeva, transrodnih, a nikada do takvih kao što si ti. :roll:
A šta ti imaš protiv crnih ljudi, što baš njih spomenu?

Jesi li znao da je među spomenutim pokretom ogroman broj bijelaca(vjerovatno većina)?

Zašto si baš izdvojio crnce, šta se krije iza toga?
Ko je izdvojio crnce? :D I odakle ti informacija da BLM čine većinom bijelci? A i da ima bijelaca, u čemu je problem? U čemu je
problem da se neko suosjeća sa problemima drugog ljudskog bića i bori protiv rasizma čije su najveće žrtve u Americi upravo
afro amerikanci? Zašto je to ubleha? Je li bila ubleha i pokret Martina Luthera Kinga?
Ti, ali ostaje nepoznanica zašto si ih izdvojio, da li bi ih izdvojio i u društvu.
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#13314 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 19:10
dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 19:08
S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 19:00

A šta ti imaš protiv crnih ljudi, što baš njih spomenu?

Jesi li znao da je među spomenutim pokretom ogroman broj bijelaca(vjerovatno većina)?

Zašto si baš izdvojio crnce, šta se krije iza toga?
Ko je izdvojio crnce? :D I odakle ti informacija da BLM čine većinom bijelci? A i da ima bijelaca, u čemu je problem? U čemu je
problem da se neko suosjeća sa problemima drugog ljudskog bića i bori protiv rasizma čije su najveće žrtve u Americi upravo
afro amerikanci? Zašto je to ubleha? Je li bila ubleha i pokret Martina Luthera Kinga?
Ti, ali ostaje nepoznanica zašto si ih izdvojio, da li bi ih izdvojio i u društvu.
Praviš se Englez, a ne ide ti. :D Nikoga ja nisam izdvojio, ali ti jesi. Prvo feminizam i žene sa svim ovim svojim pamfletskim trubljenjem po
temi, pa onda crnce spominjanjem BLM. Šta je sljedeće?
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#13315 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 19:14
S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 19:10
dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 19:08

Ko je izdvojio crnce? :D I odakle ti informacija da BLM čine većinom bijelci? A i da ima bijelaca, u čemu je problem? U čemu je
problem da se neko suosjeća sa problemima drugog ljudskog bića i bori protiv rasizma čije su najveće žrtve u Americi upravo
afro amerikanci? Zašto je to ubleha? Je li bila ubleha i pokret Martina Luthera Kinga?
Ti, ali ostaje nepoznanica zašto si ih izdvojio, da li bi ih izdvojio i u društvu.
Praviš se Englez, a ne ide ti. :D Nikoga ja nisam izdvojio, ali ti jesi. Prvo feminizam i žene sa svim ovim svojim pamfletskim trubljenjem po
temi, pa onda crnce spominjanjem BLM. Šta je sljedeće?
Izdvajam crnce spominjanjem BLM pokreta?

Opet si ih izdvojio, BLM pokret čine ljudi svih rasa, nema potrebe da iz tog pokreta izdvajaš samo crnce, aludirajući na to da je to samo njihova borba.
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#13316 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 19:20
dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 19:14
S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 19:10

Ti, ali ostaje nepoznanica zašto si ih izdvojio, da li bi ih izdvojio i u društvu.
Praviš se Englez, a ne ide ti. :D Nikoga ja nisam izdvojio, ali ti jesi. Prvo feminizam i žene sa svim ovim svojim pamfletskim trubljenjem po
temi, pa onda crnce spominjanjem BLM. Šta je sljedeće?
Izdvajam crnce spominjanjem BLM pokreta?

Opet si ih izdvojio, BLM pokret čine ljudi svih rasa, nema potrebe da iz tog pokreta izdvajaš samo crnce, aludirajući na to da je to samo njihova borba.
BLM je jedna zla organizacija, koja zeli da crnci ovise o njima, i ocuva politiku da su bijeci krivi za ghetto, kriminal i droge u njihovim zajednicama.
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#13317 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 19:20
dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 19:14
S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 19:10

Ti, ali ostaje nepoznanica zašto si ih izdvojio, da li bi ih izdvojio i u društvu.
Praviš se Englez, a ne ide ti. :D Nikoga ja nisam izdvojio, ali ti jesi. Prvo feminizam i žene sa svim ovim svojim pamfletskim trubljenjem po
temi, pa onda crnce spominjanjem BLM. Šta je sljedeće?
Izdvajam crnce spominjanjem BLM pokreta?

Opet si ih izdvojio, BLM pokret čine ljudi svih rasa, nema potrebe da iz tog pokreta izdvajaš samo crnce, aludirajući na to da je to samo njihova borba.
Opet se praviš Englez. :mrgreen: BLM mahom čine afro amerikanci, ali im veliku podršku pružaju i ljudi ostalih rasa i to je ono što je vidljivo
na slikama protesta. Ova tvoja teza da većinom bijelci stoje iza ovog pokreta ne stoji i nisi pružio ni jedan dokaz za suprotno iako sam te pitao.
Uostalom dovoljno je izguglati istoriju i strukturu pokreta i ko su inicijatori da se to vidi. To nije izdvajanje nikoga, to su činjenice.
Ali nisi mi odgovorio ni zašto misliš da je pokret ubleha? Je li po tebi ne postoje razlozi za postojanje ovakvog pokreta?
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#13318 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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CikCikCikPogodi wrote: 10/10/2020 19:31
S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 19:20
dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 19:14

Praviš se Englez, a ne ide ti. :D Nikoga ja nisam izdvojio, ali ti jesi. Prvo feminizam i žene sa svim ovim svojim pamfletskim trubljenjem po
temi, pa onda crnce spominjanjem BLM. Šta je sljedeće?
Izdvajam crnce spominjanjem BLM pokreta?

Opet si ih izdvojio, BLM pokret čine ljudi svih rasa, nema potrebe da iz tog pokreta izdvajaš samo crnce, aludirajući na to da je to samo njihova borba.
BLM je jedna zla organizacija, koja zeli da crnci ovise o njima, i ocuva politiku da su bijeci krivi za ghetto, kriminal i droge u njihovim zajednicama.
Znači crnci su sami krivi što su getoizirani, nikakve veze nema sistem sa time?
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saint_mirad wrote: 10/10/2020 18:30
S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 18:20 Feminizam se tako dobro slaže uz ostale ublehe, mržnjom zadojene mase, tipa "black lives matter".
U pravu si. Intersekcionalni feminizam ukršta feminizam i bilo koji drugi pokret za koji smatraju da je ugrožen - alphabet people, crnci, transosobe, muslimani itd.

Naročito je paradoksalan unholy savez između feminizma i islama pri kojem se prvi bori za jednakopravnost žena u svakom smislu, dok islam tretira žene kao drugotne, isto tako u svakom smislu. :mrgreen:

Ne znam kako feministkinje mire u sebi kognitivnu disonancu tog tipa, verovatno svakog ko ukaže na tu nelogičnost nazovu mizoginim i/ili islamofobom i mirna Bosna.

Postoji i odličan mim koji kaže islam is right about women, gde biraš jesi li islamofob ili mizogin. :-D
Islam je u svoje vrijeme bio prvi val feminizma prije prvog vala feminizma. :D
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#13320 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 19:36
CikCikCikPogodi wrote: 10/10/2020 19:31
S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 19:20

Izdvajam crnce spominjanjem BLM pokreta?

Opet si ih izdvojio, BLM pokret čine ljudi svih rasa, nema potrebe da iz tog pokreta izdvajaš samo crnce, aludirajući na to da je to samo njihova borba.
BLM je jedna zla organizacija, koja zeli da crnci ovise o njima, i ocuva politiku da su bijeci krivi za ghetto, kriminal i droge u njihovim zajednicama.
Znači crnci su sami krivi što su getoizirani, nikakve veze nema sistem sa time?
Da
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#13321 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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CikCikCikPogodi wrote: 10/10/2020 20:01
dale cooper wrote: 10/10/2020 19:36
CikCikCikPogodi wrote: 10/10/2020 19:31

BLM je jedna zla organizacija, koja zeli da crnci ovise o njima, i ocuva politiku da su bijeci krivi za ghetto, kriminal i droge u njihovim zajednicama.
Znači crnci su sami krivi što su getoizirani, nikakve veze nema sistem sa time?
Da
Ok, ne iznenađuje odgovor, mislim da smo već raspravljali zašto ne mislim da je tako i nismo se ni tada složili.
Ne bih dalje na ovoj temi o tome.
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#13322 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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1Dante1 wrote: 10/10/2020 20:01
saint_mirad wrote: 10/10/2020 18:30
S4mpion wrote: 10/10/2020 18:20 Feminizam se tako dobro slaže uz ostale ublehe, mržnjom zadojene mase, tipa "black lives matter".
U pravu si. Intersekcionalni feminizam ukršta feminizam i bilo koji drugi pokret za koji smatraju da je ugrožen - alphabet people, crnci, transosobe, muslimani itd.

Naročito je paradoksalan unholy savez između feminizma i islama pri kojem se prvi bori za jednakopravnost žena u svakom smislu, dok islam tretira žene kao drugotne, isto tako u svakom smislu. :mrgreen:

Ne znam kako feministkinje mire u sebi kognitivnu disonancu tog tipa, verovatno svakog ko ukaže na tu nelogičnost nazovu mizoginim i/ili islamofobom i mirna Bosna.

Postoji i odličan mim koji kaže islam is right about women, gde biraš jesi li islamofob ili mizogin. :-D
Islam je u svoje vrijeme bio prvi val feminizma prije prvog vala feminizma. :D
Kako to? Ukinuo zakopavanje žive ženske dece? Reko da možes hraniti robinje pre sexa? :mrgreen:

Takav stepen odnosa prema ženama je postojao i na drugim mestima.
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saint_mirad wrote: 10/10/2020 20:15
1Dante1 wrote: 10/10/2020 20:01
saint_mirad wrote: 10/10/2020 18:30

U pravu si. Intersekcionalni feminizam ukršta feminizam i bilo koji drugi pokret za koji smatraju da je ugrožen - alphabet people, crnci, transosobe, muslimani itd.

Naročito je paradoksalan unholy savez između feminizma i islama pri kojem se prvi bori za jednakopravnost žena u svakom smislu, dok islam tretira žene kao drugotne, isto tako u svakom smislu. :mrgreen:

Ne znam kako feministkinje mire u sebi kognitivnu disonancu tog tipa, verovatno svakog ko ukaže na tu nelogičnost nazovu mizoginim i/ili islamofobom i mirna Bosna.

Postoji i odličan mim koji kaže islam is right about women, gde biraš jesi li islamofob ili mizogin. :-D
Islam je u svoje vrijeme bio prvi val feminizma prije prvog vala feminizma. :D
Kako to? Ukinuo zakopavanje žive ženske dece? Reko da možes hraniti robinje pre sexa? :mrgreen:

Takav stepen odnosa prema ženama je postojao i na drugim mestima.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_Arab_world

During the early reforms under Islam in the 7th century, reforms in women's rights affected marriage, divorce and inheritance.[15] Lindsay Jones says that women were not accorded with such legal status in other cultures, including the West, until centuries later.[16] The Oxford Dictionary of Islam states that the general improvement of the status of Arab women included the prohibition of female infanticide and recognizing women's full personhood.[17] "The dowry, previously regarded as a bride-price paid to the father, became a nuptial gift retained by the wife as part of her personal property."[15][18] Under Islamic law, marriage was no longer viewed as a "status" but rather as a "contract", in which the woman's consent was imperative.[15][18][19] "Women were given inheritance rights in a patriarchal society that had previously restricted inheritance to male relatives."[15] Annemarie Schimmel states that "compared to the pre-Islamic position of women, Islamic legislation meant an enormous progress; the woman has the right, at least according to the letter of the law, to administer the wealth she has brought into the family or has earned by her own work."[20] William Montgomery Watt states that Muhammad, in the historical context of his time, can be seen as a figure who testified on behalf of women's rights and improved things considerably. Watt explains: "At the time Islam began, the conditions of women were terrible - they had no right to own property, were supposed to be the property of the man, and if the man died everything went to his sons." Muhammad, however, by "instituting rights of property ownership, inheritance, education and divorce, gave women certain basic safeguards."[21] Haddad and state that "Muhammad granted women rights and privileges in the sphere of family life, marriage, education, and economic endeavors, rights that help improve women's status in society."[22]

The labor force in the Arab Caliphate were employed from diverse ethnic and religious backgrounds, while both men and women were involved in diverse occupations and economic activities.[23] Women were employed in a wide range of commercial activities and diverse occupations.[24] Women's economic position was strengthened by the Qur'an,[need quotation to verify] but local custom has weakened that position in its insistence that women must work within the private sector of the world: the home or at least in some sphere related to home. Dr. Nadia YousaF, an Egyptian sociologist now teaching in the United States, states in a recent article on labor-force participation by women of Middle Eastern and Latin American Countries that the "Middle East reports systematically the lowest female activity rates on record" for labor. This certainly gives the impression that Middle Eastern women have little or no economical role until one notes that the statistics are based on non-agricultural labor outside the home.[25]

In the 12th century, the most famous Islamic philosopher and qadi (judge) Ibn Rushd, known to the West as Averroes, claimed that women were equal to men in all respects and possessed equal capacities to shine in peace and in war, citing examples of female warriors among the Arabs, Greeks and Africans to support his case.[26] In early Muslim history, examples of notable female Muslims who fought during the Muslim conquests and Fitna (civil wars) as soldiers or generals included Nusaybah Bint k’ab Al Maziniyyah,[27] Aisha,[28] Kahula and Wafeira,[29] and Um Umarah.


Ako ti wikipedia nije dovoljna, imas na drugim stranicama, mrsko mi trazit. :D

Uglavnom mijesas islam sa nekim drugim stvarima.
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#13324 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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1Dante1 wrote: 10/10/2020 20:23
saint_mirad wrote: 10/10/2020 20:15
1Dante1 wrote: 10/10/2020 20:01

Islam je u svoje vrijeme bio prvi val feminizma prije prvog vala feminizma. :D
Kako to? Ukinuo zakopavanje žive ženske dece? Reko da možes hraniti robinje pre sexa? :mrgreen:

Takav stepen odnosa prema ženama je postojao i na drugim mestima.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_Arab_world

During the early reforms under Islam in the 7th century, reforms in women's rights affected marriage, divorce and inheritance.[15] Lindsay Jones says that women were not accorded with such legal status in other cultures, including the West, until centuries later.[16] The Oxford Dictionary of Islam states that the general improvement of the status of Arab women included the prohibition of female infanticide and recognizing women's full personhood.[17] "The dowry, previously regarded as a bride-price paid to the father, became a nuptial gift retained by the wife as part of her personal property."[15][18] Under Islamic law, marriage was no longer viewed as a "status" but rather as a "contract", in which the woman's consent was imperative.[15][18][19] "Women were given inheritance rights in a patriarchal society that had previously restricted inheritance to male relatives."[15] Annemarie Schimmel states that "compared to the pre-Islamic position of women, Islamic legislation meant an enormous progress; the woman has the right, at least according to the letter of the law, to administer the wealth she has brought into the family or has earned by her own work."[20] William Montgomery Watt states that Muhammad, in the historical context of his time, can be seen as a figure who testified on behalf of women's rights and improved things considerably. Watt explains: "At the time Islam began, the conditions of women were terrible - they had no right to own property, were supposed to be the property of the man, and if the man died everything went to his sons." Muhammad, however, by "instituting rights of property ownership, inheritance, education and divorce, gave women certain basic safeguards."[21] Haddad and state that "Muhammad granted women rights and privileges in the sphere of family life, marriage, education, and economic endeavors, rights that help improve women's status in society."[22]

The labor force in the Arab Caliphate were employed from diverse ethnic and religious backgrounds, while both men and women were involved in diverse occupations and economic activities.[23] Women were employed in a wide range of commercial activities and diverse occupations.[24] Women's economic position was strengthened by the Qur'an,[need quotation to verify] but local custom has weakened that position in its insistence that women must work within the private sector of the world: the home or at least in some sphere related to home. Dr. Nadia YousaF, an Egyptian sociologist now teaching in the United States, states in a recent article on labor-force participation by women of Middle Eastern and Latin American Countries that the "Middle East reports systematically the lowest female activity rates on record" for labor. This certainly gives the impression that Middle Eastern women have little or no economical role until one notes that the statistics are based on non-agricultural labor outside the home.[25]

In the 12th century, the most famous Islamic philosopher and qadi (judge) Ibn Rushd, known to the West as Averroes, claimed that women were equal to men in all respects and possessed equal capacities to shine in peace and in war, citing examples of female warriors among the Arabs, Greeks and Africans to support his case.[26] In early Muslim history, examples of notable female Muslims who fought during the Muslim conquests and Fitna (civil wars) as soldiers or generals included Nusaybah Bint k’ab Al Maziniyyah,[27] Aisha,[28] Kahula and Wafeira,[29] and Um Umarah.


Ako ti wikipedia nije dovoljna, imas na drugim stranicama, mrsko mi trazit. :D

Uglavnom mijesas islam sa nekim drugim stvarima.
Ovde je fokus na arapskom svetu,gde je u predislamskom dobu starus žena bio katastrofalan. Islam im je samo popravio položaj u rangu drugih kultura. Ništa arapske žene nisu imale tad što nisu na dalekom istoku. A i ovo sto Ibn Rushd tvrdi nije u skladu sa Kur'anom i sunnetom, postoje ajeti i hadisi koji jasno favorizuju muškarce. Islam je ono što kažu islamski izvori da jeste, a ne nužno Ibn Rushd, taj otpadnik od islama, by the way. :P
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#13325 Re: Danasnji "feminizam"

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saint_mirad wrote: 10/10/2020 20:30
1Dante1 wrote: 10/10/2020 20:23
saint_mirad wrote: 10/10/2020 20:15

Kako to? Ukinuo zakopavanje žive ženske dece? Reko da možes hraniti robinje pre sexa? :mrgreen:

Takav stepen odnosa prema ženama je postojao i na drugim mestima.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_Arab_world

During the early reforms under Islam in the 7th century, reforms in women's rights affected marriage, divorce and inheritance.[15] Lindsay Jones says that women were not accorded with such legal status in other cultures, including the West, until centuries later.[16] The Oxford Dictionary of Islam states that the general improvement of the status of Arab women included the prohibition of female infanticide and recognizing women's full personhood.[17] "The dowry, previously regarded as a bride-price paid to the father, became a nuptial gift retained by the wife as part of her personal property."[15][18] Under Islamic law, marriage was no longer viewed as a "status" but rather as a "contract", in which the woman's consent was imperative.[15][18][19] "Women were given inheritance rights in a patriarchal society that had previously restricted inheritance to male relatives."[15] Annemarie Schimmel states that "compared to the pre-Islamic position of women, Islamic legislation meant an enormous progress; the woman has the right, at least according to the letter of the law, to administer the wealth she has brought into the family or has earned by her own work."[20] William Montgomery Watt states that Muhammad, in the historical context of his time, can be seen as a figure who testified on behalf of women's rights and improved things considerably. Watt explains: "At the time Islam began, the conditions of women were terrible - they had no right to own property, were supposed to be the property of the man, and if the man died everything went to his sons." Muhammad, however, by "instituting rights of property ownership, inheritance, education and divorce, gave women certain basic safeguards."[21] Haddad and state that "Muhammad granted women rights and privileges in the sphere of family life, marriage, education, and economic endeavors, rights that help improve women's status in society."[22]

The labor force in the Arab Caliphate were employed from diverse ethnic and religious backgrounds, while both men and women were involved in diverse occupations and economic activities.[23] Women were employed in a wide range of commercial activities and diverse occupations.[24] Women's economic position was strengthened by the Qur'an,[need quotation to verify] but local custom has weakened that position in its insistence that women must work within the private sector of the world: the home or at least in some sphere related to home. Dr. Nadia YousaF, an Egyptian sociologist now teaching in the United States, states in a recent article on labor-force participation by women of Middle Eastern and Latin American Countries that the "Middle East reports systematically the lowest female activity rates on record" for labor. This certainly gives the impression that Middle Eastern women have little or no economical role until one notes that the statistics are based on non-agricultural labor outside the home.[25]

In the 12th century, the most famous Islamic philosopher and qadi (judge) Ibn Rushd, known to the West as Averroes, claimed that women were equal to men in all respects and possessed equal capacities to shine in peace and in war, citing examples of female warriors among the Arabs, Greeks and Africans to support his case.[26] In early Muslim history, examples of notable female Muslims who fought during the Muslim conquests and Fitna (civil wars) as soldiers or generals included Nusaybah Bint k’ab Al Maziniyyah,[27] Aisha,[28] Kahula and Wafeira,[29] and Um Umarah.


Ako ti wikipedia nije dovoljna, imas na drugim stranicama, mrsko mi trazit. :D

Uglavnom mijesas islam sa nekim drugim stvarima.
Ovde je fokus na arapskom svetu,gde je u predislamskom dobu starus žena bio katastrofalan. Islam im je samo popravio položaj u rangu drugih kultura. Ništa arapske žene nisu imale tad što nisu na dalekom istoku. A i ovo sto Ibn Rushd tvrdi nije u skladu sa Kur'anom i sunnetom, postoje ajeti i hadisi koji jasno favorizuju muškarce. Islam je ono što kažu islamski izvori da jeste, a ne nužno Ibn Rushd, taj otpadnik od islama, by the way. :P
Pa to ti je period zivota najvaznije licnosti islama, kud ces bolje mjerilo. Necu se mjerit po nekom desetom liku sto ima pristup yt i propovijeda gluposti. :D

https://blog.globalacademyjobs.com/the- ... y-a-woman/ - imale su univerzitete izmedju ostalih stvari. :D
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