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Evo iz Italijanske bolnice video:

https://9gag.com/gag/aXj1YX9

Sve stariji pacijenti.
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Dozer wrote: 16/03/2020 23:55 Nego...sta kazu vjerske zajednice...jel' nam ovaj corona virus poklon od svevisnjeg? Onog istog sto nam je svima zapisao?
Image :-) :roll:
10:17 Iranski vjerski vođa Ajatolah Hashem Bathaie Golpayegani umro je od zaraze koronavirusom. Hospitaliziran je u subotu
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Ako me se Herka ne rijesi s ovim virusom najebala je do kraja zivota :izet:
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Mozda bi ovo pomoglo i za Corona virus

Vitamin C: The Miracle Swine Flu Cure (60 Minutes) "Living Proof"



Can Intravenous Vitamin C Stop a Deadly Infection? Mainstream Medicine is Taking Notice
Nia Stephanopoulos-Chichura, MD

Initially, I set out to write a completely different article in connection with my upcoming lecture in May, “Mysteries of the Gallbladder.” However, I felt compelled to share this news on intravenous (IV) vitamin C with you as it has the potential to save your life or the life of your loved one.

On March 23, 2017, National Public Radio (NPR) reported on a story about an Intensive Care
Unit (ICU) doctor who was bringing IV vitamin C research to the bedside in real time1. Dr. Paul Marik, MBBCh, of Eastern Virginia Medical School, went out on a limb and gave a combination of IV vitamin C, a steroid called hydrocortisone, and vitamin B1 (thiamine) in an IV solution to hospital patients dying of life-threatening response to infections called sepsis …and…they lived! They not only lived, but the death rate in Dr. Marik’s hospital from sepsis fell from 40% to 8.5%2. His work builds on the work of Dr. Alpha Fowler and others showing survival benefits of giving IV vitamin C for sepsis infections3.

Sepsis used to be known to the public as “blood poisoning.” According to Dr. Marik’s research paper, “the global burden of sepsis is estimated as 15 to 19 million cases annually with a mortality rate approaching 60% in low income countries2.” According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), sepsis is considered a medical emergency and time can make the difference between life and death4. Sepsis is the body’s overwhelming response to a life-threatening infection that can lead to tissue damage, organ failure, and death5. The CDC also found that, “7 in 10 patients with sepsis had recently used healthcare services or had chronic diseases requiring frequent medical care6.”

What this means is that patients with chronic conditions like diabetes or weakened immune systems from chemotherapy and cancer are at higher risk. How many people do you know with diabetes or with weakened immune systems from chemotherapy and cancer? I know several.

Dr. Marik’s story is not the first story regarding IV vitamin C and survival from sepsis. In 2009, New Zealand dairy farmer Allan Smith contracted swine flu, developed pneumonia, and was quickly placed on multiple machines in the ICU keeping him alive while his body fought through sepsis. His condition worsened and the doctors came to his family to withdraw life support because he had been in a coma for 3 weeks. His family said that before taking him off of life support that IV vitamin C should be tried. The family was persistent, and Allan was given IV vitamin C. On a Tuesday night he was given 25 grams of IV vitamin C and on Wednesday morning he was given 25 grams again. After two days on IV vitamin C his lungs began to clear. When Allan was continued on IV vitamin C, he was able to get off of life support. He is still alive and well today.
Another doctor who pioneered the use of IV vitamin C to fight infections was Fred Klenner, MD. Dr. Klenner used IV vitamin C in Reidsville, North Carolina, to successfully treat polio, diphtheria, herpes zoster (shingles), herpes simplex, chickenpox, influenza, measles, mumps, and viral pneumonia in the 1930’s and 1940’s. This was before the mass use of antibiotics, as Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin in 19288. You can read more about the work of Dr. Klenner in the book Injectable Vitamin C: Effective Treatment for Viral and Other Diseases.

As patients, we need to keep asking the hard questions. I ended up in Integrative Medicine because I was asking questions and seeking the truth. Some of the following questions, I believe, need to be seriously considered. If IV Vitamin C is improving survival rates in sepsis, could the patients getting sepsis (the elderly, the people with chronic conditions like diabetes, the patients with weakened immune systems on chemotherapy with cancer) have a deficiency in vitamin C? Could people with chronic illness be walking around in their daily life with a low grade scurvy? Furthermore, could they have other deficiencies we don’t even know about such as vitamin D? Could they be deficient in minerals, amino acids, healthy fats, B vitamins, etc.? Based on my years in practice I believe these are valid questions to pose, and ones that can mean the difference between life and death for, not just sepsis, but all chronic conditions. As an example, Vitamin D deficiency has been documented in studies as an independent risk factor for mortality (risk of death) of ICU patients9.

We should be testing the nutrients of our ICU patients, and quickly treating their deficiencies. One step further, perhaps we should be checking the nutrient status of everyone in our general population and addressing their deficiencies before they get sepsis or other illnesses? Food for thought.

Here at the Riordan Clinic, we have been checking nutrients and giving IV vitamin C for over 40 years. Over 40 years. I can tell you from my years in practice with checking hundreds of nutrient profiles in patients that I have yet to see a completely normal profile on anyone – even those coming to us for wellness checks with no current medical issues. The deficiency states and toxicity states of our citizens in this country continue to astound me. Even when people think they are getting the nutrients they need from their food, when we check their nutrient levels they are still lacking.

In fact, the Nutrition Security Institute has data showing the decline in mineral and vitamin content of our food supply over the past 80 years. To give you some examples, the decrease in the mineral content of one medium apple from 1914 to 1992 is quite remarkable. Per apple the amount of magnesium has dropped 82%, phosphorous 84% and iron 96%10! Our bodies need these minerals for vital functions like carrying oxygen, giving us energy from metabolism, and getting rid of our waste products.

Knowledge is powerful. I present you with this information in hopes that you will continue to seek the truth and question the conventional standards so that, together, we can rise above! To watch the videos, read the full papers and protocol please visit the Riordan Clinic Research page/facebook page. I hope to see you at the end of May for our lecture unfolding many health mysteries and how they are connected to the gallbladder.
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@Raigor Stonehoof Ah...nisam ni sumnjao.... Sto nas sad kaznjava? Sta smo sad zglajzali?

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C vitamin intravenozno, i u velikoj dozi, vjerovatno moze prilicno pomoci oko ovoga.

Usotalom, sjetimo se ono troje doktora prije 10-ak godina, dvoje Njemaca i jedan Austrijanac, koji su pacijentima davali velike doze C vitamina direktno u maligne tumore (karcinome), i koji su tvrdili da su na taj nacin uspjesno ubijali karcinome.

Ekspresno su dobili suspenzije s posla, pa tuzbe, a onda i otkaze, sve pod optuzbom "nesavjesnog lijecenja" i "testiranja neprovjerenih metoda na ljudima". A pricamo o C vitaminu....
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Pogledajte kako kinezi suzbijaju sirenje...mi nismo sposobni na ovakvu disciplinu. Zatvoreni gotovo 2 mjeseca i jos nastavljaju biti. Pa mi u ratu smo izlazili po granatama...tako da ovaj virus kakav god je kad krene nece se zaustaviti kao tamo.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyucJek ... dex=8&t=0s[/youtube]
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salik79 wrote: 16/03/2020 22:58
L3D3NA wrote: 16/03/2020 22:54 Meni je žao da je tema o teoriji zavjere nekako mrtva.

Ne znam zašto ovdje ubacuju postove vezane za tu tematiku, umjesto da je ožive gdje treba, eto ja bih se rado priključila :D
Lizardi, nlo, Antartik, Rihanna... :D
Vrlo rado ustupam :D
slichica-dana-2004-20xx-procitaj-prvi-p ... #p16348886
ovo je blago :D
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mO k3 wrote: 16/03/2020 22:19 Ne mogu da shvatim da pojedini ovdje nisu shvatili koliko je ozbiljna ova situacija ....


Strasno ..
Ozbiljna da. Ali ovoliko ludilo nije jos vidjeno. Od haosa u prodavnicama, do zatvaranja svega, a ekonomske posljedice ce tek da se vide. Radi cega? Virusa koji ima 15‰ smrtnost kod starijih i bolesnih i zanemarljivu smrtnost kod mladjih.
Pa zasto onda ne uradimo sta mozemo za starije dok mi ostali preguramo ovo sto prije. Bice i starima daleko manji rizik poslije kad ih malo ko ima zaraziti, kao kod obicnog gripa. Nemoj me pogresno shvatiti. Ozbiljno jeste, ali ne jednako svugdje i po svakoga. Ali panika je opsta i nekontrolisana.
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denimb wrote: 16/03/2020 22:51
Diwan wrote: 16/03/2020 22:39
TheRealist wrote: 16/03/2020 22:17 Svi koji rade direktno sa pacijentima tim, ili koji će raditi ako se desi nešto govore kako se treba dobro paziti, a onda dođu ovi iza tastature i govore da je sve panika bespotrebna, da je sve zavjera, bla, bla.... :roll: .
Uzmi pa vrišti, možda te dovoljno ne čuju ...

Sto ljudi poput tebe smaraju svakodnevno pa to je cudo jedno, cijela Evropa pred zatvaranjem ali ti imas recept, ti si sve to proucio i shvatio...de malo ba...razmakni te zavijese na prozoru pa pogledaj kako svijet izgleda izvan tvoje sobe jbt.
Bosnje klasicne ta ce meni ba virus.Nez koliko puta sam napisao a da pri tom nisam napadnut.Kod mene u bolnici zivi haos,dva put na dan moras mjerit temp iako direktno ne radim na flooru vec s doktorima i up level menadzmentom.

Ja svoje roditelje koji su u sa nemg ubjedit da prestanu radit na dvije tri sedmice a oni mene ubise s pricom kako je americka vojska iskrcala trupe u italiju
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breba wrote: 17/03/2020 00:32
mO k3 wrote: 16/03/2020 22:19 Ne mogu da shvatim da pojedini ovdje nisu shvatili koliko je ozbiljna ova situacija ....


Strasno ..
Ozbiljna da. Ali ovoliko ludilo nije jos vidjeno. Od haosa u prodavnicama, do zatvaranja svega, a ekonomske posljedice ce tek da se vide. Radi cega? Virusa koji ima 15‰ smrtnost kod starijih i bolesnih i zanemarljivu smrtnost kod mladjih.
Pa zasto onda ne uradimo sta mozemo za starije dok mi ostali preguramo ovo sto prije. Bice i starima daleko manji rizik poslije kad ih malo ko ima zaraziti, kao kod obicnog gripa. Nemoj me pogresno shvatiti. Ozbiljno jeste, ali ne jednako svugdje i po svakoga. Ali panika je opsta i nekontrolisana.
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Dozer wrote: 16/03/2020 23:55 Nego...sta kazu vjerske zajednice...jel' nam ovaj corona virus poklon od svevisnjeg? Onog istog sto nam je svima zapisao?
Nije poklon od svevisnjeg ali jest od jedne ateisticke drzave.
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ladacoko wrote: 17/03/2020 00:41
denimb wrote: 16/03/2020 22:51
Diwan wrote: 16/03/2020 22:39

Uzmi pa vrišti, možda te dovoljno ne čuju ...

Sto ljudi poput tebe smaraju svakodnevno pa to je cudo jedno, cijela Evropa pred zatvaranjem ali ti imas recept, ti si sve to proucio i shvatio...de malo ba...razmakni te zavijese na prozoru pa pogledaj kako svijet izgleda izvan tvoje sobe jbt.
Bosnje klasicne ta ce meni ba virus.Nez koliko puta sam napisao a da pri tom nisam napadnut.Kod mene u bolnici zivi haos,dva put na dan moras mjerit temp iako direktno ne radim na flooru vec s doktorima i up level menadzmentom.

Ja svoje roditelje koji su u sa nemg ubjedit da prestanu radit na dvije tri sedmice a oni mene ubise s pricom kako je americka vojska iskrcala trupe u italiju
Najjjaci su ovi teoreticari zavjera. Kad ih pitas sta se desava? Odgovor je: "pa nesto". Sta nesto, odgovor opet: pa nesto. Sta li im je to "nesto" pa ne smiju napisati :-)
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ponavljam opet

zivim u zemlji u kojoj trenutno ima jako puno inficiranih,radim u zdravstvenoj ustanovi , upravo u nocnoj dezuri .MOLIM VAS poslusajte savjete iz iskustva ne od prije par mjeseci godina vec trenutno sta se desava i sta JEDINO pomaze jeste IZOLACIJA za sve ljude koji pripadaju riziko-grupi dijabeticari,srcani bolesnici,oni koji imaju autoimuna oboljenja i pod terapijom su imunsupresiva,onkoloski pacijenti,pusaci i svi preko 60 godina.
Mladi se trebaju pridrzavati mjera higijene i izbjegavati bilo kakve kontakte sa starijim osobama roditelji,nane,bake ,dede,komsije jer tako im pomazete sto ich necete zaraziti.


Molim VAS sviju postujte upute Vlada,kriznih stabova ,lica koja su zaduzena da vas vode kroz ovu stihiju koja je surova.
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immuno wrote: 17/03/2020 00:51...zivim u zemlji u kojoj trenutno ima jako puno inficiranih,radim u zdravstvenoj ustanovi , upravo u nocnoj dezuri ...
Zahvaljujem u ime svih na sugestijama.

Ako nije tajna, u kojoj se zemlji nalaziš?
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nije tajna Austrija Bec ,radim u AKH-Wien
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Vielen Dank.
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immuno wrote: 17/03/2020 00:51 ponavljam opet

zivim u zemlji u kojoj trenutno ima jako puno inficiranih,radim u zdravstvenoj ustanovi , upravo u nocnoj dezuri .MOLIM VAS poslusajte savjete iz iskustva ne od prije par mjeseci godina vec trenutno sta se desava i sta JEDINO pomaze jeste IZOLACIJA za sve ljude koji pripadaju riziko-grupi dijabeticari,srcani bolesnici,oni koji imaju autoimuna oboljenja i pod terapijom su imunsupresiva,onkoloski pacijenti,pusaci i svi preko 60 godina.
Mladi se trebaju pridrzavati mjera higijene i izbjegavati bilo kakve kontakte sa starijim osobama roditelji,nane,bake ,dede,komsije jer tako im pomazete sto ich necete zaraziti.


Molim VAS sviju postujte upute Vlada,kriznih stabova ,lica koja su zaduzena da vas vode kroz ovu stihiju koja je surova.
Hvala i sve najbolje!
Ja bih samo dodao RAZUMNA izolacija starijih. Moji su vec nekoliko dana u izolaciji i ne mislim da je dobro po njih. Jos su zaposleni, i inace aktivni, mada zbog ovoga ne rade i sjede kuci. I mentalno zdravlje ima ulogu. Nece moci niko zivjeti u osami mjesec dana i biti normalni, da se razumijemo. Moramo, kao drustvo, naci neki nacin da se izolacija starijih olaksa. Setnja, super, ali gdje, kako, kada, a da je izlozenost minimalna.
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Raigor Stonehoof wrote: 17/03/2020 00:03
Dozer wrote: 16/03/2020 23:55 Nego...sta kazu vjerske zajednice...jel' nam ovaj corona virus poklon od svevisnjeg? Onog istog sto nam je svima zapisao?
Image :-) :roll:
10:17 Iranski vjerski vođa Ajatolah Hashem Bathaie Golpayegani umro je od zaraze koronavirusom. Hospitaliziran je u subotu

Sve se dešava sa Božijom voljom i Božijim odredjenjem, a proživljenje poslije smrti je istina...

Svi koji su rodjeni ce i umrjeti, a sa sobom nose samo dobra i loša djela pa tako i ovaj rahmetlija.
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Ovako u Australiji izgleda prijemna soba za Corona testiranje. Uporediti sa današnjom slikom ispred Kliničkog centra. :roll:

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immuno wrote: 17/03/2020 01:03...
Još nešto da te pitam ako znaš odgovor. Moja tetka, farmaceut u penziji, vrši pritisak na nas da kupimo imuno-preparat Germanijum 132. Košta 100+ maraka kutija.

Vrijedi li tih para, da li je preporuka OK?
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australija je jedna od najvecih yemlja sa najmanjeim brojem stanovnika po povrsini
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Challenger_ wrote: 17/03/2020 01:10
immuno wrote: 17/03/2020 01:03...
Još nešto da te pitam ako znaš odgovor. Moja tetka, farmaceut u penziji, vrši pritisak na nas da kupimo imuno-preparat Germanijum 132. Košta 100+ maraka kutija.

Vrijedi li tih para, da li je preporuka OK?
ge-132-germanium-t68034s25.html
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Bravo psiholosko stanje ce biti i vec jeste jako jako veliki Problem.U Tirolu gdje je zabrana izlaska iz kuca vec imaju slucajeve nasilja u porodici tuca i slicno.Mislim da mladi mogu tu odigrati veliku ulogu stalnom komunikacijom cesto zvati,slati inetresantne Price,tekstove ,fotografije.Davati im neke zadatke koju mogu obaviti u toj situaciji mama ispleti mi sal,de napisi mi svoje recepte da kuham po njima ,taj tvoj cvijet mi se svidja de mi jedan mali pelcer posadi itd,itd ….Bitno je samo neslusati 25 sati vijesti na dan vec dan ispuniti da ima bar malo sadrzaja. Hvala bogu danas se Sem sto se mozes cuti mozes se i vidjeti pa tako mozete zajedno laganevjezbe raditi apsolutno to nemoraju biti extra vjezbe sto vise smijeha zu njih to bolje….eto ideja ima puno ali ich treba sprovoditi.
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