Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Da li razumijete zasto ljudi glasaju za Trumpa?

Poll ended at 06/10/2016 21:19

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AleksoMKD wrote: 19/06/2020 17:54
CPT wrote: 19/06/2020 15:39
Znaci... Kad protestira Colin K. nije ok... kad divljaju nije ok.... da pisu neke peticije ili nesto? I naravno da ce se od rasizma prica okrenuti na pljacku patika i ne na uzasnu reakciju vlasti.

Jer znam kad su poceli nemiri... Zar ne?
Peticije, glasanje, aktivizam, blokada puteva i institucija, nek viknu predstavnicima vlasti koje su izabrali jer se sranje desilo na njihovoj smeni u njihovim grado ima.

Ali ne razumem kako paljenje imovine drugih crnaca pridonodi borbi protiv rasizma. Pojasni mi molim te.
Ti preskocis dijelove koji ti se ne svidjaju... Colin K. protestira mirno, legano i tiho vec nekoliko godina. I opet nije ok. Predstavnici vlasti ne da ga ne hebu 2% vec unistavaju zivot. Pogotovo onaj babun....

Bavis posljedicama i ne uzrokom. Paljevina je nebitna posljedica sistematskog rasizma. Policajca koji je covjeka zadavio i politicara koji su jos jednu bistvo zeljeli malo sakriti. Da su dan nakon ubistva reagovali kako su trebali nemira vjerovatno ne bi ni bilo.

Potenciranje paljevina, nemira, antife i ostalih gluposti je pokusaj Repulikanaca da skrenu paznju sa pravog problema. A to nije paljevina btw.
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#19452 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 20:31
Maxxtro wrote: 19/06/2020 20:21
MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 19:41

Problem je pretezno sto se izgleda misli da svi koji glasaju za demokrate su antifa,skriveni komunisti kriju sliku staljina :D - sa druge strane svi koji glasaju za republikance tj. trumpa smatra se da nedeljom uvecer im je praksa jedno paljenje kriza u smijesnom bijelom odijelu :D
S tim sto je kljucna razlika sto neces naci nikoga na ljevici, osim nebitnih, marginaliziranih frakcija koji ce podrzavati komunizam i Staljina. Ili recimo ovo paljenje. Ili nasilje nad bijelcima. To je cisti strawman, kako bi desnica imala babarogu protiv koje ce poentirati.

S druge strane, desnica, odnosno republikanci su glasali, i velikom vecinom podrzava personifikaciju najnizih poriva, nemorala, primitivizma, ekstremizma i antiintelektualizma u vidu onog idiota Trumpa. On ima dokumentovanu historiju rasizma. U svojoj administraciji ima ili je imao likove poput Bannona ili Stephena Millera, koji promoviraju stavove bijelih supremacista, rasizam i ksenofobiju. Pa je onda tesko vjerovati u iskrenost necijih namjera kad je u stanju podrzavati takvog covjeka.
Naravno :D oni za koje ja navijam su ok to je samo par marginaliziranih i predstava podmetanje od strane onih drugih. A drugi su naravno svi isti. :lol:
To je cinjenica. Nadji mi nekog mainstream politicara ljevice koji podrzava Staljina i komunizam. Bernija, koji za sebe otvoreno kaze da je socijalista, ignorisu kada covjek uporno ponavlja da je cilj emulacija socijalnih demokracija skandinavskog modela, a ne Staljinov totalitarizam. Otidji na neki maintream, lijevo orijentisani sajt poput reddita pa pogledaj da li na naslovnu stranicu ikada dospiju hvalospijevi o komunizmu. Cak cesto zateknem postove koji ismijavaju stereotipe woke ljevicara i social justice warriora. Lupas gluposti. S druge strane, reci mi sta da ja mislim o onima koji otvoreno podrzavaju covjeka koji je rasista, glup i prakticno nepismen lik. U najmanju ruku, ako sami nisu rasisti i glupi, smatraju da to nije dealbreaker.
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#19453 Re: Donald J Trump - Predsjednik USA All About

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Maxxtro wrote: 19/06/2020 20:45
MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 20:31
Maxxtro wrote: 19/06/2020 20:21

S tim sto je kljucna razlika sto neces naci nikoga na ljevici, osim nebitnih, marginaliziranih frakcija koji ce podrzavati komunizam i Staljina. Ili recimo ovo paljenje. Ili nasilje nad bijelcima. To je cisti strawman, kako bi desnica imala babarogu protiv koje ce poentirati.

S druge strane, desnica, odnosno republikanci su glasali, i velikom vecinom podrzava personifikaciju najnizih poriva, nemorala, primitivizma, ekstremizma i antiintelektualizma u vidu onog idiota Trumpa. On ima dokumentovanu historiju rasizma. U svojoj administraciji ima ili je imao likove poput Bannona ili Stephena Millera, koji promoviraju stavove bijelih supremacista, rasizam i ksenofobiju. Pa je onda tesko vjerovati u iskrenost necijih namjera kad je u stanju podrzavati takvog covjeka.
Naravno :D oni za koje ja navijam su ok to je samo par marginaliziranih i predstava podmetanje od strane onih drugih. A drugi su naravno svi isti. :lol:
To je cinjenica. Nadji mi nekog mainstream politicara ljevice koji podrzava Staljina i komunizam. Bernija, koji za sebe otvoreno kaze da je socijalista, ignorisu kada covjek uporno ponavlja da je cilj emulacija socijalnih demokracija skandinavskog modela, a ne Staljinov totalitarizam. Otidji na neki maintream, lijevo orijentisani sajt poput reddita pa pogledaj da li na naslovnu stranicu ikada dospiju hvalospijevi o komunizmu. Cak cesto zateknem postove koji ismijavaju stereotipe woke ljevicara i social justice warriora. Lupas gluposti. S druge strane, reci mi sta da ja mislim o onima koji otvoreno podrzavaju covjeka koji je rasista, glup i prakticno nepismen lik. U najmanju ruku, ako sami nisu rasisti i glupi, smatraju da to nije dealbreaker.
Samo jedan primjer - pitanje: Jel tebi ovo lici na nesto iskreno,korisno,znacajno ili pak na jeftino kupljenje bodova jednom saradom ?
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A sto se tice demokrata mnogo vise im se zamjera od samo ekstremne ljevice itd prizivanja komunizma. Stvari tipa free universal healthcare (kako),inicijative poput uselimo beskucnike u prazne stanove ... , defundirajmo policiju. E na sve to jedna platforma koja nema ideje na cemu je bazirana osim na pravima manjina koja kao ne postoje ono institucije kroje zakone posebne za njih,populizmu tipa sta ide sada (sjetimo se korono, Trump rasista zabranio Kinezima ulazak u USA , dva mjeseca kasnije zasto Trump nije uveo zabrane ranije :lol: )sve se svodi na to mi smo protiv Trump-a ... a sta nudimo .. nudimo ono sto oni koje ne vole Trumpa zele da cuju :wink:
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to je to. sad je trump kriv za sve nedace i probleme amerike od 1600. pa na ovamo. i ovi cuche i kenjaju i eto niko kao oni, bravo za njih, iz sigurnosti capitol hilla i njihovih vila i imanja. pa i kad je obama bio, svake godine je policija ubijala 1000 ljudi od cega su 30-40% crnci.
sve na jadnog trumpa svalise. i koliko god trump bio debilchina i kreten i lazov i sve ostalo, nisu ni ovi nista bolji, ustvarri ove hinje su puno gore. zato mi je trump i drazi, zato je i pobijedio 2016, jer svoje debilnosti iskazuje iskreno i kao obican covjek. nije on ni rasista ni fasista ni konzervativac ni desnica. on je biznismen koji je nasao svoju strategiju, svoj nich kako da dobije 50 miliona glasova. pa nije sad budala da nesto uradi sto bi kompromitovalo te glasove.
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Poraz Trumpa nije nesto koristno ili znacajno jelte...
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karanana wrote: 19/06/2020 21:13 nije on ni rasista ni fasista ni konzervativac ni desnica. on je biznismen koji je nasao svoju strategiju, svoj nich kako da dobije 50 miliona glasova. pa nije sad budala da nesto uradi sto bi kompromitovalo te glasove.
On jeste rasista i fasista... Zbog afera sa stanovima, zbog Central Park five, zbog ... A fasista je zbog zabrane, zbog "good people on all sides", itd, itd...

O njegovom biznisu i strategijama neki drugi put :lol:
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CPT wrote: 19/06/2020 21:19
karanana wrote: 19/06/2020 21:13 nije on ni rasista ni fasista ni konzervativac ni desnica. on je biznismen koji je nasao svoju strategiju, svoj nich kako da dobije 50 miliona glasova. pa nije sad budala da nesto uradi sto bi kompromitovalo te glasove.
On jeste rasista i fasista... Zbog afera sa stanovima, zbog Central Park five, zbog ... A fasista je zbog zabrane, zbog "good people on all sides", itd, itd...

O njegovom biznisu i strategijama neki drugi put :lol:
Sta cek afera sa stanovima fasista i rasista ? zbog ... ?? Koje zabrane ? Pa sta onaj biden rece:
If You Don’t Vote for Me, ‘You Ain’t Black’ :lol:
A ti kad zaradis prvi milion pa makar i propao posle javi se pa objasni kako ide biznis i strategija :lol:
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MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 21:23
CPT wrote: 19/06/2020 21:19
karanana wrote: 19/06/2020 21:13 nije on ni rasista ni fasista ni konzervativac ni desnica. on je biznismen koji je nasao svoju strategiju, svoj nich kako da dobije 50 miliona glasova. pa nije sad budala da nesto uradi sto bi kompromitovalo te glasove.
On jeste rasista i fasista... Zbog afera sa stanovima, zbog Central Park five, zbog ... A fasista je zbog zabrane, zbog "good people on all sides", itd, itd...

O njegovom biznisu i strategijama neki drugi put :lol:
Sta cek afera sa stanovima fasista i rasista ? zbog ... ?? Koje zabrane ? Pa sta onaj biden rece:
If You Don’t Vote for Me, ‘You Ain’t Black’ :lol:
A ti kad zaradis prvi milion pa makar i propao posle javi se pa objasni kako ide biznis i strategija :lol:
Google is your friend...

Provjeri kako se izdavalo stanove, provjeri malo njegov oglas u vezi C.P.5, itd, itd....
Biden je bio u pravu. Pored black bi ubacio i muslimane, latino populaciju, itd. itd.

Kad mi babo ostavio par stotina mio $ necu bankrotirati 6x. To je ta poznata strategija... Jos nesto?
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nidje veze bidenov komentar.
zamisli trump kaze: if you dont vote for me you ain't white.

imo je i biden svojih stvari koje ce vjerovatno izlaziti jos vise zadnjih par mjeseci. kad je radio sa nekim senatorima ili kongresmenima koji su otvoreno podrzavali segregaciju.
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karanana wrote: 19/06/2020 21:30 nidje veze bidenov komentar.
zamisli trump kaze: if you dont vote for me you ain't white.

imo je i biden svojih stvari koje ce vjerovatno izlaziti jos vise zadnjih par mjeseci. kad je radio sa nekim senatorima ili kongresmenima koji su otvoreno podrzavali segregaciju.
a to ti mislis da je njegova publika slucajno 99,9% bijele boje?! :lol: :lol:

Trump je podrzavao vjesanje crnaca za koje je dokazano da su lazno osudjeni. Ne samo da je to podrzao onako usput vec je platio oglas.
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CPT wrote: 19/06/2020 21:27

Google is your friend...

Provjeri kako se izdavalo stanove, provjeri malo njegov oglas u vezi C.P.5, itd, itd....
Biden je bio u pravu. Pored black bi ubacio i muslimane, latino populaciju, itd. itd.

Kad mi babo ostavio par stotina mio $ necu bankrotirati 6x. To je ta poznata strategija... Jos nesto?
Jes on sjeo za stol i pisao oglase :lol:

Sta je u pravu ? On odredjuje jel neko crnac musliman ili latino :lol: :lol: Pa ja licno znam latinosa koji ne da je za Trumpa nego mu je istetovirana zastava konfederacije na ruci :D sta on nije latino jer ??

Pa sto ti nije ostavio ? Opet da baba ima muda bila bi ..... :D
A postati predsjednik najmocnije zemlje na svijetu, pa ne znam ja ga smatram pametnijim jedno 100x od mene jer ocito on je predsjednik a ja nevazni covjek sa malim biznisom.
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MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 21:32
CPT wrote: 19/06/2020 21:27

Google is your friend...

Provjeri kako se izdavalo stanove, provjeri malo njegov oglas u vezi C.P.5, itd, itd....
Biden je bio u pravu. Pored black bi ubacio i muslimane, latino populaciju, itd. itd.

Kad mi babo ostavio par stotina mio $ necu bankrotirati 6x. To je ta poznata strategija... Jos nesto?
Jes on sjeo za stol i pisao oglase :lol:

Sta je u pravu ? On odredjuje jel neko crnac musliman ili latino :lol: :lol: Pa ja licno znam latinosa koji ne da je za Trumpa nego mu je istetovirana zastava konfederacije na ruci :D sta on nije latino jer ??

Pa sto ti nije ostavio ? Opet da baba ima muda bila bi ..... :D
A postati predsjednik najmocnije zemlje na svijetu, pa ne znam ja ga smatram pametnijim jedno 100x od mene jer ocito on je predsjednik a ja nevazni covjek sa malim biznisom.
Postoji ljudi koji mogu pisati oglase za tebe. Samo narucis i platis... 85.000$
Although no DNA evidence connected the boys, aged 14 to 16, to the attack, that didn't stop Trump from spending $85,000 on full-page ads in four city newspapers, calling for their executions.

Ljudi koji glasaju protiv sebe moraju dobro razmisliti gdje i kako su skrenuli. Da ne bude kao sa Meksikancima koji su glasali za Trumpa pa onda do bili nogu. A onda kukanje... Isto vazi i za ostale.
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CPT wrote: 19/06/2020 21:39
MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 21:32
CPT wrote: 19/06/2020 21:27

Google is your friend...

Provjeri kako se izdavalo stanove, provjeri malo njegov oglas u vezi C.P.5, itd, itd....
Biden je bio u pravu. Pored black bi ubacio i muslimane, latino populaciju, itd. itd.

Kad mi babo ostavio par stotina mio $ necu bankrotirati 6x. To je ta poznata strategija... Jos nesto?
Jes on sjeo za stol i pisao oglase :lol:

Sta je u pravu ? On odredjuje jel neko crnac musliman ili latino :lol: :lol: Pa ja licno znam latinosa koji ne da je za Trumpa nego mu je istetovirana zastava konfederacije na ruci :D sta on nije latino jer ??

Pa sto ti nije ostavio ? Opet da baba ima muda bila bi ..... :D
A postati predsjednik najmocnije zemlje na svijetu, pa ne znam ja ga smatram pametnijim jedno 100x od mene jer ocito on je predsjednik a ja nevazni covjek sa malim biznisom.
Postoji ljudi koji mogu pisati oglase za tebe. Samo narucis i platis... 85.000$
Although no DNA evidence connected the boys, aged 14 to 16, to the attack, that didn't stop Trump from spending $85,000 on full-page ads in four city newspapers, calling for their executions.

Ljudi koji glasaju protiv sebe moraju dobro razmisliti gdje i kako su skrenuli. Da ne bude kao sa Meksikancima koji su glasali za Trumpa pa onda do bili nogu. A onda kukanje... Isto vazi i za ostale.
Pa sam sebe pobijas, prvo spominjes stanove i oglase pa onda "moze ti neko drugi pisati" pa sta mislis da je trump sjedio pisao oglase za neke stanove :lol:

De ti objasni ko kako treba da glasa jasta. Sta pricas ti ? Oni koji su deportovani nikada nisu imali drzavljanstvo kako moze glasati pa biti deportovan. Hajd ti znam da te str'a da slovence sta ne prevrne pa te ne nogiraju u BiH u kojoj je sve kako kazes isto haman kao u sloveniji ( :lol: ) ali to nema veze sa realnoscu.
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Stargate Punk wrote: 19/06/2020 19:17 Crnci u Americi boluju od sindroma da im neko nesto duguje.
Prvo treba ukinuti "Affirmative Action" i sva prava sto ih imaju na osnovi boje koze a onda ih treba uciti da oni koji rade i zarade i imaju.
Koliko je policajaca ubijeno od ove rulje?
Koliko je ljudi ubijeno tek tako sto su bili bjelci?
Dalit ce oni ikad dobiti pravdu za sebe a njihove ubojice biti kaznjene?

Treba bagru slati nazad u Afriku pa da im braca Huti pokazu sta je "Gangsta Paradise".

Evropa se isto tako treba zatvarati jer vecina ovih ljudi se nikada nece promjeniti i nikada nece shvatiti da su oni u stvari problem. Ono kad dodjes (pobjegnes) iz najgore rupe na planeti u Europu a onda ti se tu nista ne svidja pa hoces da uvodis sisteme iz starih zavicaja koji su te i doveli tu gdje jesi.

U Novembru ce mnoge ljude docekati veliko iznenadjenje kad Trump pomete Bidena.
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MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 21:41
CPT wrote: 19/06/2020 21:39
MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 21:32

Jes on sjeo za stol i pisao oglase :lol:

Sta je u pravu ? On odredjuje jel neko crnac musliman ili latino :lol: :lol: Pa ja licno znam latinosa koji ne da je za Trumpa nego mu je istetovirana zastava konfederacije na ruci :D sta on nije latino jer ??

Pa sto ti nije ostavio ? Opet da baba ima muda bila bi ..... :D
A postati predsjednik najmocnije zemlje na svijetu, pa ne znam ja ga smatram pametnijim jedno 100x od mene jer ocito on je predsjednik a ja nevazni covjek sa malim biznisom.
Postoji ljudi koji mogu pisati oglase za tebe. Samo narucis i platis... 85.000$
Although no DNA evidence connected the boys, aged 14 to 16, to the attack, that didn't stop Trump from spending $85,000 on full-page ads in four city newspapers, calling for their executions.

Ljudi koji glasaju protiv sebe moraju dobro razmisliti gdje i kako su skrenuli. Da ne bude kao sa Meksikancima koji su glasali za Trumpa pa onda do bili nogu. A onda kukanje... Isto vazi i za ostale.
Pa sam sebe pobijas, prvo spominjes stanove i oglase pa onda "moze ti neko drugi pisati" pa sta mislis da je trump sjedio pisao oglase za neke stanove :lol:

De ti objasni ko kako treba da glasa jasta. Sta pricas ti ? Oni koji su deportovani nikada nisu imali drzavljanstvo kako moze glasati pa biti deportovan. Hajd ti znam da te str'a da slovence sta ne prevrne pa te ne nogiraju u BiH u kojoj je sve kako kazes isto haman kao u sloveniji ( :lol: ) ali to nema veze sa realnoscu.
Nadao sam se da znas koristiti Google...

Govorio sam oglase za C.P.5 (platio je oglas u vezi crnaca). Stanovi su druga prica gdje se igrao malo rasizma. Jer ti je Google ocigledno nepoznat evo skracena verzija.

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1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.

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1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.

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1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”

1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices. :? :shock:

2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”

2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”

2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a ”carnival barker.” (The research has found a strong correlation between “birtherism,” as this conspiracy theory is called, and racism.) Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.

2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
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ha ja.
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a to ono sto je platio oglas, ima ona serija kad su navodno neki crnci silovali i isprebijali neku zensku u central parku?
pa bili su uhapseni i osudjeni, on je samo podrzao zestoku kaznu za pocinitelje koji su u to vrijeme bili identifikovani kao ta djeca.
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karanana wrote: 19/06/2020 21:47 ha ja.
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a to ono sto je platio oglas, ima ona serija kad su navodno neki crnci silovali i isprebijali neku zensku u central parku?
pa bili su uhapseni i osudjeni, on je samo podrzao zestoku pravdu za pocinitelje koji su u to vrijeme bili identifikovani kao ta djeca.
for f. sake... zar u f. 2020...

1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
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pa o tome i pricam. ima serija na netflixu izasla prosle godine.
pa on je platio oglas da se krivci najstrozije kazne a sud je radio kako je radio. i ta djeca su tu noc radila neke ludorije svuda po parku.
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karanana wrote: 19/06/2020 21:50 pa o tome i pricam. ima serija na netflixu izasla prosle godine.
pa on je platio oglas da se krivci najstrozije kazne a sud je radio kako je radio. i ta djeca su tu noc radila neke ludorije svuda po parku.
de bar procitaj oglas... :roll: :-)
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Bukvalno mu je post slovo za slovo tipicno onim redneck desnicarima što pišu po raznoraznim sajtovima.
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MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 21:08
Samo jedan primjer - pitanje: Jel tebi ovo lici na nesto iskreno,korisno,znacajno ili pak na jeftino kupljenje bodova jednom saradom ?
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Nije ti se loadala dobro slika, ne vidim sta je.
MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 21:08 A sto se tice demokrata mnogo vise im se zamjera od samo ekstremne ljevice itd prizivanja komunizma. Stvari tipa free universal healthcare
(kako)
Onako kako to radi kompletan civilizovan svijet izuzev Amerike, gdje vise od 50 bankrota nije zbog medicinskih racuna, sta si ti mislio sta zagovaraju? Sta je tu ekstremno?
MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 21:08 ,inicijative poput uselimo beskucnike u prazne stanove
Strahota Bozija. Tu je to u rangu sa rasizmom.
MorningStar wrote: 19/06/2020 21:08 ... , defundirajmo policiju.
Sto je izjava, koja kada se ispravno kvalifikuje i tumaci unutar konteksta i nije nerazumna. Mozes se ne slagati, ali nije ekstremna ili nerazumna. Ne govori se o ukidanju policije koliko god idioti na desnici to pokusavali tumaciti i zastrasivati ljude, nego se radi u preusmjeravanju sredstava koja se koriste za militarizaciju policije i kupovanja viska vojne opreme u neke drustveno korisnije ciljeve. Vjerovao ili ne, mogu drotovi sasvim komotno nastavljati ubijati crnce i sa obicnim pistoljima.
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Kao sto rekoh, sve su ovo stvari s kojima se mozes razumno ne slagati, ali nisu ekstremni, nego tradicionalno liberalni i progresivni stavovi. Ovo po meni nije sukob konzervativne i liberalne ideologije, jer ne bih ismijavao nekoga zbog zastupanja tradicionalno konzervativnih stavova, ma koliko se ne slagao sa njima. Jednostavno nema pandana Trumpu na ljevici, jer bi isti bio ismijan i zavrsio bi svoju karijeru i prije nego je zapocela. S druge strane imas idiota, koji kako rekoh ima dokumentovanu historiju rasizma cijim idiotima glasacima, ako nisu rasisti, to nije dealbreaker. I to cak nije ni najgori aspekt njegovog karaktera.
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CPT wrote: 19/06/2020 21:46
Nadao sam se da znas koristiti Google...

Govorio sam oglase za C.P.5 (platio je oglas u vezi crnaca). Stanovi su druga prica gdje se igrao malo rasizma. Jer ti je Google ocigledno nepoznat evo skracena verzija.

afera "stanovi"

1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.

afera "oglasi"
1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.

druge afere:
1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”

1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices. :? :shock:

2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”

2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”

2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a ”carnival barker.” (The research has found a strong correlation between “birtherism,” as this conspiracy theory is called, and racism.) Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.

2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
Ajmo redom imam vremena :D :lol:

Ne znam ja sta je taj googlet to je nesto sta je to :?
1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation Isao trump sve sa kljucevima i iznajmljivao stanove. A evo stvarnog razloga :
Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients.
Kes kes :D

1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!
- Slucaj u kojem je vecina smatrala da je pocinjeno silovanje i ubistvo - Ima li neko pravo tu na misljenje, recimo dali ti mislis da neko koga dosta ljudi kaze da je silovao po foci u ratu ako bude osudjen - bi trebao dobiti smrtnu kaznu ?

1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.” - Jel ti to sigurno znas da je trump trazio da ih maknu ? Trump je ocito rasista i to jedini u americi posebno tokom 80ih.

1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.” aham definitivno rasista , i jos cionista jer oce da mu jevreji broje kesovinu :lol:


1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices. :? :shock: - Trump rasista a ne teskasi koji dodju da bacaju stotine k dolara pa traze da maknu afroamerikance ? Mozda biznis kes racunaica ? Ili pak preferira da izgubi novac i otjera ove afroamerikance koji imaju vise para tu ?????


2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.” - sta je ovdje rasisticko... sto tvrdi da u svijetu postiji dosta rasizma i da je to zlo ???



2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a ”carnival barker.” (The research has found a strong correlation between “birtherism,” as this conspiracy theory is called, and racism.) Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.

2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?” - ove dvije spadaju u predizbornu kampanju.


Nego sad ima li jos sta rekao ovaj da je cuo od tetke koja je pricala sa komsinicom sa sprata iznad koja se druzi sa muzem sekretarke u administraciji hotela a poznaje racunovodju... :lol:




haj ba :D
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karanana wrote: 19/06/2020 21:50ta djeca su tu noc radila neke ludorije svuda po parku.
In 2001, Matias Reyes, a convicted murderer and serial rapist serving life in prison, confessed to officials that he had raped the female jogger. His DNA matched that found at the scene, and he provided other confirmatory evidence. He said he committed the rape alone.

In 2002 Robert Morgenthau, District Attorney for New York County, had his office conduct an investigation and recommended to the state court that the convictions of the five men on all charges be vacated. The court vacated their convictions in 2002, and the state withdrew all charges against the men.
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Maxxtro wrote: 19/06/2020 21:58

Sto je izjava, koja kada se ispravno kvalifikuje i tumaci unutar konteksta i nije nerazumna. Mozes se ne slagati, ali nije ekstremna ili nerazumna. Ne govori se o ukidanju policije koliko god idioti na desnici to pokusavali tumaciti i zastrasivati ljude, nego se radi u preusmjeravanju sredstava koja se koriste za militarizaciju policije i kupovanja viska vojne opreme u neke drustveno korisnije ciljeve. Vjerovao ili ne, mogu drotovi sasvim komotno nastavljati ubijati crnce i sa obicnim pistoljima.

Kao sto rekoh, sve su ovo stvari s kojima se mozes razumno ne slagati, ali nisu ekstremni, nego tradicionalno liberalni i progresivni stavovi. Ovo po meni nije sukob konzervativne i liberalne ideologije, jer ne bih ismijavao nekoga zbog zastupanja tradicionalno konzervativnih stavova, ma koliko se ne slagao sa njima. Jednostavno nema pandana Trumpu na ljevici, jer bi isti bio ismijan i zavrsio bi svoju karijeru i prije nego je zapocela. S druge strane imas idiota, koji kako rekoh ima dokumentovanu historiju rasizma cijim idiotima glasacima, ako nisu rasisti, to nije dealbreaker. I to cak nije ni najgori aspekt njegovog karaktera.
Pa i imas smatrati ih liberalnim i progresivnim a nekome su ti isti stavovi uvod u unistenje amerike kakvu poznavaju - tj. za konzervatice.

Itekako je nerazumna, policija nije problem - problem je dublji socio-ekonomski problem afroamerikanaca. Koliko ima mrtvih u obracunima bandi po geto-ima i hoodovima u kojim upravo ginu afroamerikanci a rjesenje za to je .... smanjimo finansiranje policiji ??????

E to ko je idiot i sa koje strane... u principu svatko misli da je na njegovoj strani ok not great not terrible ali oni na drugoj su kompletni idioti.. i eto sta dobijemo.
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CPT wrote: 19/06/2020 21:59
karanana wrote: 19/06/2020 21:50ta djeca su tu noc radila neke ludorije svuda po parku.
In 2001, Matias Reyes, a convicted murderer and serial rapist serving life in prison, confessed to officials that he had raped the female jogger. His DNA matched that found at the scene, and he provided other confirmatory evidence. He said he committed the rape alone.

In 2002 Robert Morgenthau, District Attorney for New York County, had his office conduct an investigation and recommended to the state court that the convictions of the five men on all charges be vacated. The court vacated their convictions in 2002, and the state withdrew all charges against the men.
i ovaj Trump je 89'e trebao protrljati kuglu i viditi da ce 2001 netko drugi priznati iako su svi mislili da su krivi ukljucujuci i sud ???????
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