https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/bih/izetbeg ... /220119135
Dakle Erdogan ce se sastati sa Komsicem, Dzaferovicem i Vucicem, Dodikom da rijesi sve probleme u BiH. Jasno kao dan.
Etnickim liderom Bosnjaka, etnickim liderom hrvata i gradjana i etnickim liderom Srba.
Republika Turska
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Ma gdije ćeš ti to našem svjetu objasniti mngo je zla medžu nama a niko ne vidi da je sastanak bijo na najvišim državnijem nivoima razinama itd...samo dogovor sa Dodikom vučičom jer se mora razgovarati a opet kad sagledaš nemože sve preko noći....svi bi mi htijeli i svi bih mi da voli mo odma sve preko noći daj al nemoreHaloBaja wrote: ↑19/01/2022 17:56 https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/bih/izetbeg ... /220119135
Dakle Erdogan ce se sastati sa Komsicem, Dzaferovicem i Vucicem, Dodikom da rijesi sve probleme u BiH. Jasno kao dan.
Etnickim liderom Bosnjaka, etnickim liderom hrvata i gradjana i etnickim liderom Srba.
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Izjavi covjek koji nas bombarduje sa izjavam iz turske, sutra da naprave novi saraf koji se koristi u vojnoj industriji turske izasao bi clanak kao da su haman poslali covjeka na mars....HarTar wrote: ↑19/01/2022 17:04Ja se ne zamaram glupostima ni u real life, kamo li ovdje. Svaštaexliberal-ex wrote: ↑19/01/2022 15:53 Cuj turska matica srba, bosnjaka,albanaca i makedonaca ....jel se ovo hartar klonirao?
podsjecas me sa svojim pisanjem na savu xxx kvoji je znao kad je koji stand sa lubenicama oslobodjen tokom rata u sirij....
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Piaty wrote: ↑19/01/2022 18:06Ma gdije ćeš ti to našem svjetu objasniti mngo je zla medžu nama a niko ne vidi da je sastanak bijo na najvišim državnijem nivoima razinama itd...samo dogovor sa Dodikom vučičom jer se mora razgovarati a opet kad sagledaš nemože sve preko noći....svi bi mi htijeli i svi bih mi da voli mo odma sve preko noći daj al nemoreHaloBaja wrote: ↑19/01/2022 17:56 https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/bih/izetbeg ... /220119135
Dakle Erdogan ce se sastati sa Komsicem, Dzaferovicem i Vucicem, Dodikom da rijesi sve probleme u BiH. Jasno kao dan.
Etnickim liderom Bosnjaka, etnickim liderom hrvata i gradjana i etnickim liderom Srba.
Ne moze preko noci, al 30 godina prodje mi se ne mrdamo, tj nazadujemo, a SDA nam samo govori "saburom, ne moze preko noci"
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De, jos jednom procitaj ono podebljano...Ako ne razumijes sta si napisao javi se da ti rastumacim.
Onako usput, da li si ti licno, '93, znao da Erdogan postoji?
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Dakle Erdogan zeli da se sastane sa predsjednistvom i Vucicem. Ja mislim da je to sjajna ideja.
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Moze li neki relevantan link na tu "Strategijsku dubinu" iz koje, navodno, vadis te citate?HaloBaja wrote: ↑19/01/2022 11:35 Nazalost Bosnjaci i Bosanci koji zive u Bosni i koji su odrasli u tom sistemu imaju, u vecini slucajeva, ozbiljan problem.
To se izcitava iz svega zivog. Postoji kompleks o tome kako je svako protiv tebe, kako nista ne valja i postoji urodjeni nepotizam koji je plod sistema u kojem zive. Da je Erdogan rekao da salje vojsku u Bosnu sutra nebi valjalo. Ma sta god da se desi nevalja.
Mi dijaspora smo pametniji i bolji dio nacije. I mi trebamo da vodimo BiH a ne ti ljudi koje je sistem jebao u zdrav mozak 30 godina. I pored toga, materijalno stanje odredjuje svijest ljudi. Nemoze neko ko ima platu od 600 eura mjesecno da razumije neke stvari. To je jednostavno moje misljenje i neka se niko ne uvrijedi.
Turska je velika drzava sa svojiminteresima. Da stvar bude jos laksa, ti interesi su lako razumljivi jer su ih Turci napisali jos davnih dana u knjizi "Strategijska Dubina" koja za balkan jos uvijek vazi. Njihova vanjsko politicka doktrina prema balkanu se zasniva, kao sto pise u doktrini, na 3 stuba:
1) Jacanje politicke pozicije Albanaca i Bosnjaka te njihovo infrastrukurno povezivanje i vojno jacanje.
2)Sirenje uticaja nad Srbijom kroz ekonomiju i diplomatiju. Jer kao sto u doktrini pise, jedina drzava koja moze ugroziti dugorocne interese Turske na balkanu jesu Srbija i Grcka.
3) Jacanje uticaja nad Bugarima i Makedoncima kroz diplomatiju.
Sve sto pise u Strategijskoj dubini Erdogan radi. Ali 1/1. Drzi Srbiju za prijatelja i siri uticaj na istu. Jaca Bosnu, Crnu Goru i Kosovo vojno. I povezuje Bosnjake medjusobno komunikacijom ali i sa svijetom.
Turska strategija na balkanu je dugorocna. I sigurno dugorocno ide u korist Bosne a ne na njezinu stetu. Takodjer je Erdogan vise puta izjavio da u slucaju napada na BIH suverenitet, Turska ce jako reagovati (vojno). A bas to pise u strategijskoj dubini:
"Ukoliko parametri istorije dovedu do novih iskusenja Bosnjake i Albance, Otomanske residue, Turska ce morati vojno zastiti te narode. Jer Turska nemoze ostvariti svoje interese u Anadoliji i Donjoj Thraciji bez jake pozicije ova dva muslimanska naroda."
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Imas google. Ali evo da vam pomognem nije to sve lagano:salik79 wrote: ↑19/01/2022 18:27Moze li neki relevantan link na tu "Strategijsku dubinu" iz koje, navodno, vadis te citate?HaloBaja wrote: ↑19/01/2022 11:35 Nazalost Bosnjaci i Bosanci koji zive u Bosni i koji su odrasli u tom sistemu imaju, u vecini slucajeva, ozbiljan problem.
To se izcitava iz svega zivog. Postoji kompleks o tome kako je svako protiv tebe, kako nista ne valja i postoji urodjeni nepotizam koji je plod sistema u kojem zive. Da je Erdogan rekao da salje vojsku u Bosnu sutra nebi valjalo. Ma sta god da se desi nevalja.
Mi dijaspora smo pametniji i bolji dio nacije. I mi trebamo da vodimo BiH a ne ti ljudi koje je sistem jebao u zdrav mozak 30 godina. I pored toga, materijalno stanje odredjuje svijest ljudi. Nemoze neko ko ima platu od 600 eura mjesecno da razumije neke stvari. To je jednostavno moje misljenje i neka se niko ne uvrijedi.
Turska je velika drzava sa svojiminteresima. Da stvar bude jos laksa, ti interesi su lako razumljivi jer su ih Turci napisali jos davnih dana u knjizi "Strategijska Dubina" koja za balkan jos uvijek vazi. Njihova vanjsko politicka doktrina prema balkanu se zasniva, kao sto pise u doktrini, na 3 stuba:
1) Jacanje politicke pozicije Albanaca i Bosnjaka te njihovo infrastrukurno povezivanje i vojno jacanje.
2)Sirenje uticaja nad Srbijom kroz ekonomiju i diplomatiju. Jer kao sto u doktrini pise, jedina drzava koja moze ugroziti dugorocne interese Turske na balkanu jesu Srbija i Grcka.
3) Jacanje uticaja nad Bugarima i Makedoncima kroz diplomatiju.
Sve sto pise u Strategijskoj dubini Erdogan radi. Ali 1/1. Drzi Srbiju za prijatelja i siri uticaj na istu. Jaca Bosnu, Crnu Goru i Kosovo vojno. I povezuje Bosnjake medjusobno komunikacijom ali i sa svijetom.
Turska strategija na balkanu je dugorocna. I sigurno dugorocno ide u korist Bosne a ne na njezinu stetu. Takodjer je Erdogan vise puta izjavio da u slucaju napada na BIH suverenitet, Turska ce jako reagovati (vojno). A bas to pise u strategijskoj dubini:
"Ukoliko parametri istorije dovedu do novih iskusenja Bosnjake i Albance, Otomanske residue, Turska ce morati vojno zastiti te narode. Jer Turska nemoze ostvariti svoje interese u Anadoliji i Donjoj Thraciji bez jake pozicije ova dva muslimanska naroda."
https://files.taylorandfrancis.com/CJSB ... sample.pdf
Pogledaj stranicu 7:
. In his pioneer book Stratejik Derinlik (Strategic
Depth) he argued that Turkey should base its Balkans policy on the two important Muslim
peoples of the region: Bosniaks and Albanians. Her argued that if Turkey wants to establish
a sphere of influence in the Balkans, it can only be through cultivating close relations with
these communities, because of the fact that Turkey has historical and heartful closeness to
these communities (‘tarihi ve kalbi yakınlık’).15 After becoming foreign minister, however,
he tried to develop Turkey’s relations not only with Muslim communities, but with countries
like Macedonia and Serbia that consist of Christian majorities
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https://edoc.hu-berlin.de/bitstream/han ... sequence=1
Bosniaks and Albanians are two ethnical communities that have preserved the most of
the Ottoman heritage within their contemporary cultural and religious patterns. Turkey
can secure its interests in the region by contributing to the secure position of these
communities, which carry on Ottoman legacy and who feel themselves politically,
economically and culturally dependent from the Turkey’s power and its influence in the
Balkans. This should be the main instrument of Turkey’s Balkan policy. Fact that these
two groups got an opportunity to strengthen their position within independent nation
states, presents a chance for Turkey to also reinforce its influence in the region. In that
sense supporting Muslim population in the Balkans is the imperative for Turkey to
achieve its foreign policy goals (Davutoğlu 2008: 210).
In that sense for Turkey it is important that Sandzak, Kosovo and Bosnia, areas in the
Balkans with large Muslim population, stay connected. To secure their undisturbed
connectivity, Turkey and the World Islamic community need to support Muslims in
Bosnia and Serbia, especially through economic and infrastructural investments.
Stability of the territories with Albanian and Bosniaks population are of prime concern
for Turkey. For Davutoğlu Bosnia and Herzegovina represents political, economic and
cultural guardian of Turkey toward the Central Europe and Albania plays a key role in
Turkey’s policy toward Eastern Mediterranean and Adriatic region. From geopolitical
and geocultural point of view, future of the whole region depends on the future of
Bosniaks and Albanians (Davutoğlu 2008: 211).
The line that goes from Middle Bosnia, over East Bosnia, Sandzak, Kosovo, Albania,
Macedonia, Kirdzali in Bulgaria and then ends in West and East Thrace, for Turkey
represents a geopolitical and geocultural vein in the Balkans (Davutoğlu 2008: 211).
That is why Turkey needs to secure that this line stays unbroken, supporting Albanians
in Kosovo and its unbroken connection with other Albanians in the region. If Muslims
get divided they would continue to be marginalized, which would lead to the
disappearance of the Ottoman legacy in the region and would decrease possibilities for
Turkish influence. Maintaining inner stability, cultural identity, strengthening economic
and social connections and communications between Muslim communities in this zone,
will secure Turkey’s position in the Balkans (Davutoğlu 2008: 211).
The problem of Kosovo for Davutoğlu also has important implication for the security of
the region. Albanians in Kosovo keep intensive and close contacts with Albanians living
in Macedonia, Albania, and Montenegro. Contrary to Bosnian crisis that was localized
mainly to Bosnia and Herzegovina problem of Albanians in the Balkans can have much
wider effects and can spread out across the whole region. In could easily spread to
Macedonia and raise an issue in Albania (Davutoğlu 2008: 213).
of Macedonia, because of its highly sensitive ethnic and religious structure, is also
important regional issue for Turkey. Fact that there is a great Albanian population in
Kosovo and Macedonia can make Serbia and Greece highly involved in the crisis
concerning Albanian question. Since Serbia, Greece and Bulgaria have interests that
are opposite to Turkeys’ ones in solving this question, Turkey should support Albanian
communities in Kosovo and Macedonia in claiming their rights and resisting the
pressure of mentioned countries. Creation of broader anti-Turkish regional alliance
needs to be prevented (Davutoğlu 2008: 213).
Bosniaks and Albanians are two ethnical communities that have preserved the most of
the Ottoman heritage within their contemporary cultural and religious patterns. Turkey
can secure its interests in the region by contributing to the secure position of these
communities, which carry on Ottoman legacy and who feel themselves politically,
economically and culturally dependent from the Turkey’s power and its influence in the
Balkans. This should be the main instrument of Turkey’s Balkan policy. Fact that these
two groups got an opportunity to strengthen their position within independent nation
states, presents a chance for Turkey to also reinforce its influence in the region. In that
sense supporting Muslim population in the Balkans is the imperative for Turkey to
achieve its foreign policy goals (Davutoğlu 2008: 210).
In that sense for Turkey it is important that Sandzak, Kosovo and Bosnia, areas in the
Balkans with large Muslim population, stay connected. To secure their undisturbed
connectivity, Turkey and the World Islamic community need to support Muslims in
Bosnia and Serbia, especially through economic and infrastructural investments.
Stability of the territories with Albanian and Bosniaks population are of prime concern
for Turkey. For Davutoğlu Bosnia and Herzegovina represents political, economic and
cultural guardian of Turkey toward the Central Europe and Albania plays a key role in
Turkey’s policy toward Eastern Mediterranean and Adriatic region. From geopolitical
and geocultural point of view, future of the whole region depends on the future of
Bosniaks and Albanians (Davutoğlu 2008: 211).
The line that goes from Middle Bosnia, over East Bosnia, Sandzak, Kosovo, Albania,
Macedonia, Kirdzali in Bulgaria and then ends in West and East Thrace, for Turkey
represents a geopolitical and geocultural vein in the Balkans (Davutoğlu 2008: 211).
That is why Turkey needs to secure that this line stays unbroken, supporting Albanians
in Kosovo and its unbroken connection with other Albanians in the region. If Muslims
get divided they would continue to be marginalized, which would lead to the
disappearance of the Ottoman legacy in the region and would decrease possibilities for
Turkish influence. Maintaining inner stability, cultural identity, strengthening economic
and social connections and communications between Muslim communities in this zone,
will secure Turkey’s position in the Balkans (Davutoğlu 2008: 211).
The problem of Kosovo for Davutoğlu also has important implication for the security of
the region. Albanians in Kosovo keep intensive and close contacts with Albanians living
in Macedonia, Albania, and Montenegro. Contrary to Bosnian crisis that was localized
mainly to Bosnia and Herzegovina problem of Albanians in the Balkans can have much
wider effects and can spread out across the whole region. In could easily spread to
Macedonia and raise an issue in Albania (Davutoğlu 2008: 213).
of Macedonia, because of its highly sensitive ethnic and religious structure, is also
important regional issue for Turkey. Fact that there is a great Albanian population in
Kosovo and Macedonia can make Serbia and Greece highly involved in the crisis
concerning Albanian question. Since Serbia, Greece and Bulgaria have interests that
are opposite to Turkeys’ ones in solving this question, Turkey should support Albanian
communities in Kosovo and Macedonia in claiming their rights and resisting the
pressure of mentioned countries. Creation of broader anti-Turkish regional alliance
needs to be prevented (Davutoğlu 2008: 213).
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lahko je tudjim k...m gloginje mlatit.HaloBaja wrote: ↑19/01/2022 18:32Imas google. Ali evo da vam pomognem nije to sve lagano:
https://files.taylorandfrancis.com/CJSB ... sample.pdf
Pogledaj stranicu 7:
. In his pioneer book Stratejik Derinlik (Strategic
Depth) he argued that Turkey should base its Balkans policy on the two important Muslim
peoples of the region: Bosniaks and Albanians. Her argued that if Turkey wants to establish
a sphere of influence in the Balkans, it can only be through cultivating close relations with
these communities, because of the fact that Turkey has historical and heartful closeness to
these communities (‘tarihi ve kalbi yakınlık’).15 After becoming foreign minister, however,
he tried to develop Turkey’s relations not only with Muslim communities, but with countries
like Macedonia and Serbia that consist of Christian majorities
vi iz dijaspore spremni bi bili povuci neke poteze u ime Bosne jer necete vi ispastati te poteze.
to ti je isto ovo kad god se zakuha malo, prvi su dijasporci s povicima "u rat, treba ovo sve ratom rjesit" i slicne gluposti
Zasto? - zato sto nece niko iz dijaspore doci pa ratovati vec ce sjediti u dijaspori i navijati.
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Pa, tako reci, nisu "turci davno napisali", nego je bivsi turski ministar vanjskih poslova (koji je dao ostavku) Davutoglu 2008. napisao. Bez obzira na sve, de ti to malo rastabiri i povezi nam s konkretnim potezima na terenu.HaloBaja wrote: ↑19/01/2022 18:38 https://edoc.hu-berlin.de/bitstream/han ... sequence=1
Bosniaks and Albanians are two ethnical communities that have preserved the most of
the Ottoman heritage within their contemporary cultural and religious patterns. Turkey
can secure its interests in the region by contributing to the secure position of these
communities, which carry on Ottoman legacy and who feel themselves politically,
economically and culturally dependent from the Turkey’s power and its influence in the
Balkans. This should be the main instrument of Turkey’s Balkan policy. Fact that these
two groups got an opportunity to strengthen their position within independent nation
states, presents a chance for Turkey to also reinforce its influence in the region. In that
sense supporting Muslim population in the Balkans is the imperative for Turkey to
achieve its foreign policy goals (Davutoğlu 2008: 210).
In that sense for Turkey it is important that Sandzak, Kosovo and Bosnia, areas in the
Balkans with large Muslim population, stay connected. To secure their undisturbed
connectivity, Turkey and the World Islamic community need to support Muslims in
Bosnia and Serbia, especially through economic and infrastructural investments.
Stability of the territories with Albanian and Bosniaks population are of prime concern
for Turkey. For Davutoğlu Bosnia and Herzegovina represents political, economic and
cultural guardian of Turkey toward the Central Europe and Albania plays a key role in
Turkey’s policy toward Eastern Mediterranean and Adriatic region. From geopolitical
and geocultural point of view, future of the whole region depends on the future of
Bosniaks and Albanians (Davutoğlu 2008: 211).
The line that goes from Middle Bosnia, over East Bosnia, Sandzak, Kosovo, Albania,
Macedonia, Kirdzali in Bulgaria and then ends in West and East Thrace, for Turkey
represents a geopolitical and geocultural vein in the Balkans (Davutoğlu 2008: 211).
That is why Turkey needs to secure that this line stays unbroken, supporting Albanians
in Kosovo and its unbroken connection with other Albanians in the region. If Muslims
get divided they would continue to be marginalized, which would lead to the
disappearance of the Ottoman legacy in the region and would decrease possibilities for
Turkish influence. Maintaining inner stability, cultural identity, strengthening economic
and social connections and communications between Muslim communities in this zone,
will secure Turkey’s position in the Balkans (Davutoğlu 2008: 211).
The problem of Kosovo for Davutoğlu also has important implication for the security of
the region. Albanians in Kosovo keep intensive and close contacts with Albanians living
in Macedonia, Albania, and Montenegro. Contrary to Bosnian crisis that was localized
mainly to Bosnia and Herzegovina problem of Albanians in the Balkans can have much
wider effects and can spread out across the whole region. In could easily spread to
Macedonia and raise an issue in Albania (Davutoğlu 2008: 213).
of Macedonia, because of its highly sensitive ethnic and religious structure, is also
important regional issue for Turkey. Fact that there is a great Albanian population in
Kosovo and Macedonia can make Serbia and Greece highly involved in the crisis
concerning Albanian question. Since Serbia, Greece and Bulgaria have interests that
are opposite to Turkeys’ ones in solving this question, Turkey should support Albanian
communities in Kosovo and Macedonia in claiming their rights and resisting the
pressure of mentioned countries. Creation of broader anti-Turkish regional alliance
needs to be prevented (Davutoğlu 2008: 213).
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The line that goes from Middle Bosnia, over East Bosnia, Sandzak, Kosovo, Albania,
Macedonia, Kirdzali in Bulgaria and then ends in West and East Thrace, for Turkey
represents a geopolitical and geocultural vein in the Balkans (Davutoğlu 2008: 211)
Macedonia, Kirdzali in Bulgaria and then ends in West and East Thrace, for Turkey
represents a geopolitical and geocultural vein in the Balkans (Davutoğlu 2008: 211)
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I, gdje je ta linija?
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To sto ti pises je irelvantno. Mozda je Erdoganova partija tada tek bila u nastajanju ali to nema veze sa sustinom. Sustina je da je Erdogan tada podrzavao slanje Turske vojske u Bosnu kao jedna NATO sila. I sustina je da su na tom fonu danas sve partije u Turskoj. Upravo je bivsi general Turske mornarice i clan CHP-a rekao za Al Jazeeru da je Sarajevo danas mnogo sigurnije kada Turska gradi nosace aviona.
Drugim rijecima sa vojno tehnoloskim razvitkom Turske su Turci u cjelini (ne samo Erdogan) na fonu da balkan pripada Turskoj zoni uticaja.
To ce u narednih 50 godina samo rasti.
A Iran, prosjecna zemlja treceg svijeta poput Sjeverne Koreje, Pakistana. Imat ce moderni mlazni avion Iranske proizvodnje 3700. godine. Irelevantan. Nedao bog da me Iran mora branti.
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#32367 Re: Republika Turska
Davutoglu je se pokazao u Banjoj Luci kad je rekao da ce Turska vazda biti uz Bosnjake
Ali Davutoglu vise nije uz Erdogana, cak vise nije u toj stranci.
A Erdogan ako hoce da pomogne dobro bi mu bilo da bas ne ulozi milijarde u najvece neprijatelje naroda koji cinu tu stratesku dubinu
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HaloBaja wrote: ↑19/01/2022 18:56To sto ti pises je irelvantno. Mozda je Erdoganova partija tada tek bila u nastajanju ali to nema veze sa sustinom. Sustina je da je Erdogan tada podrzavao slanje Turske vojske u Bosnu kao jedna NATO sila. I sustina je da su na tom fonu danas sve partije u Turskoj. Upravo je bivsi general Turske mornarice i clan CHP-a rekao za Al Jazeeru da je Sarajevo danas mnogo sigurnije kada Turska gradi nosace aviona.
Drugim rijecima sa vojno tehnoloskim razvitkom Turske su Turci u cjelini (ne samo Erdogan) na fonu da balkan pripada Turskoj zoni uticaja.
To ce u narednih 50 godina samo rasti.
A Iran, prosjecna zemlja treceg svijeta poput Sjeverne Koreje, Pakistana. Imat ce moderni mlazni avion Iranske proizvodnje 3700. godine. Irelevantan. Nedao bog da me Iran mora branti.
Prvo lazes, a onda relativiziras...
Tebe Iran (i Pakistan) nije ni branio, branio je nas koji smo bili ovdje, dok Turska klincem nije mrdnula.
Usput, Iran odavno lansira vlastite satelite vlastitim raketama u svemir. I, jos nesto, da je Turska samo godinu dana pod sankcijama koju Iran trpi preko 4 decenije, raspala bi se.
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Pitam gdje je konkretno ta linija?! Jesi li kada prosao njom?
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Iran je drzava treceg svijeta. Cijelu ekonomiju su bacili u vojnu industriju i opet su na nivou Bangladesha, Pakistana.salik79 wrote: ↑19/01/2022 19:04HaloBaja wrote: ↑19/01/2022 18:56
To sto ti pises je irelvantno. Mozda je Erdoganova partija tada tek bila u nastajanju ali to nema veze sa sustinom. Sustina je da je Erdogan tada podrzavao slanje Turske vojske u Bosnu kao jedna NATO sila. I sustina je da su na tom fonu danas sve partije u Turskoj. Upravo je bivsi general Turske mornarice i clan CHP-a rekao za Al Jazeeru da je Sarajevo danas mnogo sigurnije kada Turska gradi nosace aviona.
Drugim rijecima sa vojno tehnoloskim razvitkom Turske su Turci u cjelini (ne samo Erdogan) na fonu da balkan pripada Turskoj zoni uticaja.
To ce u narednih 50 godina samo rasti.
A Iran, prosjecna zemlja treceg svijeta poput Sjeverne Koreje, Pakistana. Imat ce moderni mlazni avion Iranske proizvodnje 3700. godine. Irelevantan. Nedao bog da me Iran mora branti.
Prvo lazes, a onda relativiziras...
Tebe Iran (i Pakistan) nije ni branio, branio je nas koji smo bili ovdje, dok Turska klincem nije mrdnula.
Usput, Iran odavno lansira vlastite satelite vlastitim raketama u svemir. I, jos nesto, da je Turska samo godinu dana pod sankcijama koju Iran trpi preko 4 decenije, raspala bi se.
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Cime to potkrepljujes? Imas li neke pokazatelje s kojima bi potkrijepio svoju tvrdnju?HaloBaja wrote: ↑19/01/2022 19:08Iran je drzava treceg svijeta. Cijelu ekonomiju su bacili u vojnu industriju i opet su na nivou Bangladesha, Pakistana.salik79 wrote: ↑19/01/2022 19:04
Prvo lazes, a onda relativiziras...
Tebe Iran (i Pakistan) nije ni branio, branio je nas koji smo bili ovdje, dok Turska klincem nije mrdnula.
Usput, Iran odavno lansira vlastite satelite vlastitim raketama u svemir. I, jos nesto, da je Turska samo godinu dana pod sankcijama koju Iran trpi preko 4 decenije, raspala bi se.
Iran je, btw., medju rijetkim drzavama koja proizvodi i medicinske robote za slozene daljinski upravljane operacije. Toliko o tvojim tvrdnjama...
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Pa i jesam vani
I to rodjen vani
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