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Velkoski wrote: 05/08/2022 17:37
Navijača tima s Koševa u Bjelorusiji je, zajedno sa četvoricom simpatizera Bordo tima, sasvim slučajno zaustavila specijalna policija, ali su nakon pregleda rent-a-car vozila kojeg su iznajmili, kod X. X. pronašli 0,16 grama kokaina (manje od gram).
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je l' stvarno misliš da ovo zaslužuje ekspresnih pet godina zatvora?
Sanse da te zaustavi specijalna policija u pratnji sa 4 policajca iz Odjela za narkotiku. 16 spec policajaca.

Kilogram kokaina u Bjelorusiji ispod 10.000e dok ako ga uneseš kod tetke u Njemačku je oko 150.000 .


Ali ovi navijači su bili nedužni samo su imali mikrogram jer ostalo je ispalo kroz prozor
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GandalfSivi wrote: 05/08/2022 03:29 I ovo je Amerika...

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Ovo zvuči predobro da bi bilo istinito. Vidim da su ozbiljna istraživanja i institucije iza ovoga, ovo može riješiti toliko problema za tolike ljude
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JohnnyS wrote: 05/08/2022 18:09
GandalfSivi wrote: 05/08/2022 03:29 I ovo je Amerika...

https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/nap ... omentari_d
Ovo zvuči predobro da bi bilo istinito. Vidim da su ozbiljna istraživanja i institucije iza ovoga, ovo može riješiti toliko problema za tolike ljude
Zelena Afrika, nova zitnica svijeta…
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BiBi911 wrote: 05/08/2022 17:47
Velkoski wrote: 05/08/2022 17:37

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je l' stvarno misliš da ovo zaslužuje ekspresnih pet godina zatvora?
Sanse da te zaustavi specijalna policija u pratnji sa 4 policajca iz Odjela za narkotiku. 16 spec policajaca.

Kilogram kokaina u Bjelorusiji ispod 10.000e dok ako ga uneseš kod tetke u Njemačku je oko 150.000 .


Ali ovi navijači su bili nedužni samo su imali mikrogram jer ostalo je ispalo kroz prozor
ma da, lagali Bjelorusi na sudu i pustili ga za tri godine, samo njega iz cijelog kombija btw

znaju Klix forumaši 8-) :mrgreen:
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I tako to biva kad se previše sniva...

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breba wrote: 06/08/2022 05:34 I tako to biva kad se previše sniva...

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Meni je trebalo prilicno vremena da ukapiram da je tip ozbiljno misli to sto prica.

Prvo sam mislio da je los komicar sto pokusava praviti parodiju na racun teoreticara zavere.
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Danas je FBI pokucao Trumpu na vrata. :izet:
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:shock: Bolje bi im bilo da nađu nešto bitno. Nije ovo naivno.
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Specifically, the law in question — Section 2071 of Title 18 of the United States Code — makes it a crime if someone who has custody of government documents or records “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys” them.

If convicted, defendants can be fined or sentenced to prison for up to three years. In addition, the statute says, if they are currently in a federal office, they “shall forfeit” that office, and they shall “be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”
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To im je jedina nada da ga ne vide ponovo u bijeloj kuci 2024. Ali ne mislim da ce naci bilo sta da mu zabrane kandidaturu, plus ako sta i nadju ide na sudove do suprema, a znamo sta ce oni presuditi 6-3.
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karanana wrote: 09/08/2022 05:39 To im je jedina nada da ga ne vide ponovo u bijeloj kuci 2024. Ali ne mislim da ce naci bilo sta da mu zabrane kandidaturu, plus ako sta i nadju ide na sudove do suprema, a znamo sta ce oni presuditi 6-3.
Zasto bi islo do Supremea? Ne odlucuje Vrhovni sud o ovome valjda.

Inace presmjesno je tvrditi da je ovo "jedina nada da ga ne vide ponovo u bijeloj kuci". Lika koji je izgubio prosle izbore i poslije jos pokusao izvesti puc cime je izgubio jos potencijalnih buducih glasova.

A FBI ovo nije mogao izvesti bez debelih dokaza onome ko je odobrio raciju da vec nesto imaju. U ovom slucaju racija je samo formalnost (u kojoj ce vjerovatno naci jos puno dodatnog materijala). Da podsjetimo da je na celu FBI lik kojeg je Donald Trump postavio.

Samo da dodam, ovo sam govorio i ranije, Republikancima u Kongresu je ovo sjelo taman, jer neizglasavanjem impeachmenta Trumpu su prebacili lopticu na sudove, znajuci vrlo dobro da ako oni krenu za njim da ce moci poentirati kako se radi o politickom progonu, sto ce mozda iskoristiti i nekad u buducnosti. Istovremeno bi im sud ucinio ono sto i sami prizeljkuju - da se jednom za svagda rijese Trumpa, istovremeno krijuci se lafo navijajuci za njega.

No niko nije iznad zakona. :oops: Mada sumnjam da ce nesto specijalno iz ovog izaci.
Ali nek je njemu stisla malo guza, pa makar. Sam fakat da se ovo desilo je dovoljno veliki samar. Zamisli da ti desetine FBI agenata prevrce po kuci satima. :izet:

Dosla cica na kolica. :oops:
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Stvarno kakav blam i to bivsem predsjedniku :-)
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Do suprema jer ako mu zabrani legoslativa sigirno ce se zaliti po sudovima a sto da ne i do supreme suda kd je u pitanju pravo na kandidaturu za predsjednika.

Znaci u ovih godinu i po, trump je izgubio vise svojih glasaca iz 2020 nego sto ih je izgubio biden?
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karanana wrote: 09/08/2022 05:39 To im je jedina nada da ga ne vide ponovo u bijeloj kuci 2024. Ali ne mislim da ce naci bilo sta da mu zabrane kandidaturu, plus ako sta i nadju ide na sudove do suprema, a znamo sta ce oni presuditi 6-3.
Bukvalno si fulio sve sto si napisao…
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karanana wrote: 09/08/2022 05:57 Do suprema jer ako mu zabrani legoslativa sigirno ce se zaliti po sudovima a sto da ne i do supreme suda kd je u pitanju pravo na kandidaturu za predsjednika.

Znaci u ovih godinu i po, trump je izgubio vise svojih glasaca iz 2020 nego sto ih je izgubio biden?
Nece mu zabranjivati legislativa, taj je voz vec prosao. Ovdje se radi o krsenju federalnih zakona.

Trump je izgubio bar trecinu glasova Republikanaca nakon Jan 6. Ne u ovih godinu i po, vec tada. Ne znaci da ne moze pobijediti, ali su mu sanse umanjene, to je sigurno. Druga je stvar sto uopste nije sigurno da ce Biden biti kandidat.
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karanana wrote: 09/08/2022 05:39 To im je jedina nada da ga ne vide ponovo u bijeloj kuci 2024. Ali ne mislim da ce naci bilo sta da mu zabrane kandidaturu, plus ako sta i nadju ide na sudove do suprema, a znamo sta ce oni presuditi 6-3.
Uvijek mogu namjestiti izbore wink wink nudge nudge 8-)
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Ljudima je i dalje tesko povezati da Amerika nije banana republika i da sudovi i policija ne funkcionisu po partijskoj liniji. Dokazano za vrijeme Trumpa i dokazuje se i sad.
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ultima_palabra wrote: 09/08/2022 06:11
karanana wrote: 09/08/2022 05:39 To im je jedina nada da ga ne vide ponovo u bijeloj kuci 2024. Ali ne mislim da ce naci bilo sta da mu zabrane kandidaturu, plus ako sta i nadju ide na sudove do suprema, a znamo sta ce oni presuditi 6-3.
Uvijek mogu namjestiti izbore wink wink nudge nudge 8-)
Ah pa da. Kako smo to zaboravili. :oops:
Kad su mogli namjestiti kad je Trump bio predsjednik, mogu sigurno i sad kad je Biden. Jer......to tako valjda funkcionise.

Deep state arane.
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geralt wrote: 05/08/2022 17:15 Nezaposlenost u Americi 3,46%, najniza u zadnjih 50 godina. U julu otvoreno novih 528 000 radnih mjesta.
Vojna industrija ubacila u petu. :D
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Amerika nikad nema vecih ekonomskih problema. Vode se uglavnom rasprave bez kraja o socijalnim, rasnim i slicnim pitanjima. Ali rasprave a ne da neko zeli stvarno rijesiti neka od tih pitanja.
Rat protiv droge - od doktora na recept jake lijekove(drogu)
Klimatske promjene - iz ugodnog New Yorka presele se na Floridu. :D
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Biden ispunio Trumpovo predizborno obecanje - izgradice (digitalni) zid na granici sa Meksikom, i Meksiko ce ga platiti :D

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireSto ... t-86650427
WASHINGTON -- Mexican President Andres Manuel López Obrador agreed to spend $1.5 billion over the next two years to improve “smart” border technology during meetings Tuesday with President Joe Biden — a move the White House says shows neighborly cooperation succeeding where Trump administration vows to wall off the border and have Mexico pay for it could not.

A series of agreements the two countries hammered out as their leaders spoke called for several other concrete moves, including expanding the number of work visas the U.S. issues, creating a bilateral working group on labor migration pathways and worker protections and welcoming more refugees. Both also pledged to continue joint patrols for Mexico and Guatemala to hunt human smugglers along their shared border.

But the Biden administration hailed securing border funding from Mexico after years of failed attempts by former President Donald Trump.

“Borders that are more resilient, more efficient, and safer, will enhance our shared commerce,” Biden and López Obrador said in a joint official statement. “We are committed like never before to completing a multi-year joint U.S.-Mexico border infrastructure modernization effort for projects along the 2,000-mile border.”
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Malo vise detalja o pretresu Trumpove rezidencije. Sumnjici se za optuzbu koja je relativno sitna (prisvajanje drzavnih dokumenata), ali ju je vrlo lako dokazati na sudu ako su ista nasli. A ne bi pretresali da nisu bili 100% sigurni da ce naci. Kazna na sudu je nebitna, prava kazna je da je osudjeniku zabranjeno da bude na svim drzavnim funkcijama do kraja zivota :D

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2 ... nt-search
It might seem puzzling, even disappointing, that the Justice Department and the FBI would have chosen to throw down the gauntlet for a crime — “concealment, removal, or mutiIation generally” of official documents — that is far from the most serious of those we think the former president may have committed, such as obstruction of justice, fraud against the United States and, most dramatically, seditious conspiracy.

But a charge of mishandling or destroying official documents is no petty offense, not under the federal code (which provides for a prison sentence of up to three years) and not in the culture of the Justice Department, which takes it very seriously.

In Trump’s case, no surprise, the potential offense appears to be particularly brazen and damaging. Among the documents he reportedly took with him and has declined to return are true historical items that belong to the American people, including the letter President Obama left for him when he took office and his bizarre valentines to North Korea dictator Kim Jong-Un.

Further, a documents charge, as presidential accusations go, would be relatively easy to prove and would sidestep issues of 1st Amendment protected political activity that Trump no doubt would claim if he were indicted in relation to, say, his incendiary speech at the Ellipse on Jan. 6.

And most important, there’s this: Anyone who “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys” official documents “shall be” disqualified — barred for life — from holding future federal office.

If Trump were convicted of this charge, the plain meaning of the law would permanently take him out of commission as a candidate for president, and all talk of his 2024 candidacy would be dead in the water.
Likewise, all the support and polarization that the mere possibility of another Trump presidency raises.
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Pa za ovo se moze i u zatvor ici, pogotovo ako su u pitanju neki highly classified dokumenti.

Spominju se neke stvari koje su toliko stroga tajna da se ne mogu ni spomenuti da fale. :-) :D
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FBI ima haman pa 100% conviction rate tako da je Trump svoje završio

fala i kurcu vala, manje cirkusa u naredne dvije godine :mrgreen:
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Pretvorit će ga u mučenika :facepalm:
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