Ukrajina

[pici]

Sad da rusi napadnu bilo koju drugu zemlju, nebi imali za obojaka.Ove zalihe sto imaju su stare decenijama, cak sta vise je dosta upitno toga dali radi i dali je operativno.Ono sto su trebali ulagati u odrzavanje sistema, korupcijom su pozobali tajkuni, politicari i generali.Zato imamo ruski fijasko u ukrajini.Da su trecinu toga drzali operativno i odrzavali ko zemlje NATO-a (mada i kod njiHa nije sve savrseno), sad bi ukrajina bila upitna, zapravo izbili bi na granice sa rumunijom 100%.

[statixx]

Stali da predahnu i bub.

[pici]

Stali da predahnu i bub.

Ja ne znam cime bi se rusi mogli oduprjet ovakvoj taktici, izvidjacki dron i precizna artijerija.

[statixx]

Orci ne odustaju, bice ovdje jos posla.

[zigzag]

Stali da predahnu i bub.

Ja jeftinog života.....

[Gandalf]

Poljska modifikacija PVO sistema S-125 Neva.

protiv ruskih terorističkih napada, PVO je najbolja odbrana, Poljska bratski pomaže Ukrajini

još da se Zapad smiluje i pošalje dalekometne projektile za gađanje zločinačkih vojnih postrojenja u putlerovom prknu

[sumirprimus]

zanimljiv tred

[JoseMujica]

Po meni, ako ce rat odluciti to ko ima vise zaliha, rusija i kina ce izdurati dalje. Pa stancala je rusija u drugom svjetskom ratu stotine t34i dnevno i gurali su na zapad tim kvantitetom. , i sad mogu stancati i t72ce i granate. Ne moraju te stvarke imati gps i chipove. I t34ke su bile inferiorni tenkovi naspram njemackih. Ali njima nista nije znacilo kad su spremni da podanu 8 t34i da bi unistili jedan shvapski panzer. Tako i sad guraju i imaju smeca za to. Sta im sad fali da ne mogu stancati granate i osnovni oklop?

Jooojj kako bi te volio odvest kod mistress halide u strosmajerovoj da te nalupa po dupetu.


Kako bolan lupi da su stancali t34, jesu iza urala al sa americkim celikom i da amerika nije usla u rat na strani saveznika, popusili bi ga rusi od svaba.Sta mislis zbog cega je hitler odmah uzeo norvesku, zbog norvezanki ili zbog celika i nafte.
Bitka kod kurska je dobijena na konto ruskog kvantiteta i sto su morali prici svabskim tigrovima ublizinu i gadjat ga po pet sest puta da bi ga onesposobili.Rusi su uvjek imali sranje od naoruzanja al bekana kolko hoces.

@karanana de malo gradivo obnovi

https://ru.usembassy.gov/world-war-ii-a ... .%E2%80%9D

In total, the U.S. deliveries to the USSR through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[57] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[58] 11,400 aircraft (of which 4,719 were Bell P-39 Airacobras, 3,414 were Douglas A-20 Havocs and 2,397 were Bell P-63 Kingcobras)[59] and 1.75 million tons of food.[60]

Map US Lend Lease shipments to USSR-WW2.jpg
Roughly 17.5 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies, and food were shipped from the Western Hemisphere to the USSR, 94% coming from the US. For comparison, a total of 22 million tons landed in Europe to supply American forces from January 1942 to May 1945. It has been estimated that American deliveries to the USSR through the Persian Corridor alone were sufficient, by US Army standards, to maintain sixty combat divisions in the line.[61][62]

The United States delivered to the Soviet Union from October 1, 1941, to May 31, 1945, the following: 427,284 trucks, 13,303 combat vehicles, 35,170 motorcycles, 2,328 ordnance service vehicles, 2,670,371 tons of petroleum products (gasoline and oil) or 57.8 percent of the aviation fuel including nearly 90 percent of high-octane fuel used,[35] 4,478,116 tons of foodstuffs (canned meats, sugar, flour, salt, etc.), 1,911 steam locomotives, 66 diesel locomotives, 9,920 flat cars, 1,000 dump cars, 120 tank cars, and 35 heavy machinery cars. Provided ordnance goods (ammunition, artillery shells, mines, assorted explosives) amounted to 53 percent of total domestic consumption.[35] One item typical of many was a tire plant that was lifted bodily from the Ford Company's River Rouge Plant and transferred to the USSR. The 1947 money value of the supplies and services amounted to about $11 billion.[65]

Between June 1941 and May 1945, Britain delivered to the USSR:

3,000+ Hurricane aircraft
4,000+ other aircraft
27 naval vessels
5,218 tanks (including 1,380 Valentines from Canada)
5,000+ anti-tank guns
4,020 ambulances and trucks
323 machinery trucks (mobile vehicle workshops equipped with generators and all the welding and power tools required to perform heavy servicing)
1,212 Universal Carriers and Loyd Carriers (with another 1,348 from Canada)
1,721 motorcycles
£1.15bn ($1.55bn) worth of aircraft engines
1,474 radar sets
4,338 radio sets
600 naval radar and sonar sets
Hundreds of naval guns
15 million pairs of boots
In total 4 million tonnes of war material including food and medical supplies were delivered. The munitions totaled £308m (not including naval munitions supplied), the food and raw materials totaled £120m in 1946 index. In accordance with the Anglo-Soviet Military Supplies Agreement of June 27, 1942, military aid sent from Britain to the Soviet Union during the war was entirely free of charge.[73][74]

ovo smećari bez Land-Leasea ni za kurca nisu bili

[Gandalf]

Na ruske male ekrane od večeras se vraća „zabavna“ emisija „Пусть говорят“ koja je „zbog složenih društveno-političkih događaja“ skinuta s programa 24. februara. U novoj epizodi na prvom kanalu državne televizije građani Rusije saznaće „šta čeka planetu u novoj godini i narednoj deceniji“, a o tome govore „vodeći astrolozi i numerolozi“. Takođe, „razmatra se fenomen vidovite Vange i zašto se njena proročanstva ostvaruju u našim danima“, kao i da li je došao trenutak „da se pripremimo za susret sa vanzemaljcima“.

https://ria.ru/20221206/tok-shou-1836601852.html

drugim riječima, milomir marić otvara svoju podružnicu heppija u majčici rossiji, blago njima kada krene "dobro veče, ćirilica"

[Gandalf]

Stali da predahnu i bub.

ni dugmići nisu ostali

[sumirprimus]

stize novih 20ak meta ehe

[Čitalac]

Odlikovani heroj Ukrajine Kirilo Veres, komandant grupe K2, opisuje zimska zbivanja na frontu, kako funkcioniše Wagner i probleme sa kojima se njegova jedinica suočava.

U devetom mjesecu velikog rata neprijatelj se ne mijenja. Jako sam zahvalan Rusima što ne uče...Ovdje imamo omjer gubitaka sada jedan prema trideset, jedan prema četrdeset. Naravno, u našu korist. A ovo nije šala. Ali i s ovim omjerom trebalo bi ih biti još više, a naših još manje. Uvijek kažem: sve dok Rusija ne bude potpuno gotova, Ukrajina ne može završiti rat...
Na našem području trenutno se borimo samo protiv PMC Wagner. Nadiru, nadiru, a njihove regularne trupe su u pozadini. Riješimo se njihovog otpada, a gubimo naše vrijedne momke. Tako da su u tom smislu Rusi u dvostrukom plusu. Njihova taktika se ne mijenja...
Prije tjedan dana bila je jaka bitka. Dan, dva, tri, četiri...Priđem svom zapovjedniku, kažem: "Ovim tempom će nam uskoro nestati municije u mitraljezima. Samo će doći kraj." Oni nadiru i nadiru da umru. Takva gustoća! Vidio sam pedeset ljudi, samo trče poljem i padnu. Imamo pauzu od pola sata i stiže novih pedeset. U takvim trenucima, u prvim sekundama brinete za svoje, jer odnos snaga je jednostavno neshvatljiv. Ali kad vidiš da više nema njihove prve polovice, globalno ne mogu ništa, kažem dečkima: "Radite što možete. Ne morate ništa izmišljati. Radite svoj posao. Polako, planski, bez emocija”...Zadnji put sam ponudio predaju osmorici njihovih boraca – letio sam dronom s razglasom na visini od 20 metara kako bi me čuli. „Predajte se“, kažem, „povedite ranjenike sa sobom i izađite. Sve vas vidim. Evo, jedan leži pod drvetom u zelenoj jakni, drugi je u crnim hlačama...nisu htjeli...Stigli smo s tenkom, pucali. Pozvao sam one koji su preživjeli da se predaju. Ali odlučili su poginuti herojski...Iskreno, lakše mi je zarobiti ih i predati nego te leševe kasnije nekamo odvesti...
U zatvorima im se na filmovima prikazuje kako zatvorenicima navodno režemo uši, rugamo se do smrti. Stoga se boje doći do nas. Nemaju pameti, ali su ipak živa sila. Od stotine njihovih idiota, dvadeset će biti normalnih, kojima se barem nešto da. Svi oni pokušavaju ne samo preživjeti, već i ubiti...Nemaju pameti, ali tehnologije ne manjka. Naoružanja i streljiva puno više nego kod nas. Još uvijek ne uzimaju kvalitetu, nego kvantitetu. Da imam, recimo, 400 ili 300 granata dnevno na svojoj traci, uredio bih im spaljenu zemlju i išao naprijed. No puno je manje onoga što bismo htjeli. Osobno još nemam resursa da nastavim. Neprijatelja u biti moramo samo obuzdati za sada. Takva je situacija. Stoga moramo djelovati bolje, stalno izmišljati nešto novo. Cijeni svaki projektil koji treba pogoditi metu.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2022/12/6/7379350/

[Ironmen]

stize novih 20ak meta ehe

Skoro je na AJ bilo neki ukrajisnki dedo sto popravlja zarobljene i unistene ruske tenkove i vraca ih u pogon pod UA, kaze da moze popraviti sve sto vidi ocima ako ima dovoljnih rezervnih dijelova a cini se bgm da ima i novih

[Gandalf]

stize novih 20ak meta ehe

taman da ukrajinci malo vježbaju gađanje sa Javelinima

dok ne dođu nove sarmate, armate i ostale smlate, tada će Nato da zanijemi, a svijet da bude u šoku

[Gandalf]

Spoiler

Show

zabrinuti i objektivni, ne gledajte ovo, snimak baš boli

[Gandalf]

[Gandalf]

nije putleru žao poslati ni još 10x toliko, bore se orci do posljednjeg da odbrane jahte od 500 miliona $

[Gandalf]

skraćeno: orci će tek da najebu

[pici]

Nije tu erojstvo ni sekunde, nego nafilovani strahom, propagandom, idiotlukom i kretenskim mentalitetom.

[sumirprimus]

[SanskiBiser]

Ukraine War, 6 December 2022

Hello everybody!

UPDATES

Two updates for the start: the VKS Su-34 claimed as shot down on 4 December, was a Su24M (RF-93798), and it was felled by a MANPAD team from the DPSU — the border-control service of the Ukrainian armed forces. The jet was one of several involved in blasting Ukrainian positions in the Spirne area with ODAB-500Ps, and its crew was killed.

With hindsight, this is — probably — an ‘interesting development’. It might indicate that the VKS is not only flying its usual ‘spray and pray’ by Su-25s, but now regularly flying ‘direct attacks’ by its aged Su-24s. Whether to conserve its depleted Su-34-fleet, or to reinforce these….that’s not yet clear.

4 December 2022 was quite a good day for Ukrainian 138th Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade, too: it deployed one of its Buks to blow up this Ka-52. The Russians confirmed the loss of the crew.

Many are wondering what kind of missile was deployed, and ‘how comes the missile approached from above’? This ‘attack from above’ is nothing new for some 40 years: in Soviet-made SAMs it became available already back in the 1970s, when late-model S-75s (known as ‘SA-2 Guideline’ in the West) were modified to target low-flying targets that way. With other words: for SAMs, this is ‘standard procedure’ for ages already.

AIR/MISSILE WARFARE

During the night from 4 to 5 December, several Ukrainian UAVs — probably refurbished and adapted Tupolev-designed Tu-141 and/or Tu-143 drones — have hit two (quote from the Russian social media) ‘defenceless and peaceful’ air bases of the Strategic Aviation VKS. See: Engels AB, outside Saratov (450km from the border to Ukraine), and Dygilevo (Ryazan region, 650km from Ukraine) — the places where units equipped with Tu-22M-3, Tu-95MS and Tu-160 bombers are home-based.

The strike — undertaken as the VKS was preparing its next missile onslaught on Ukraine (much expected since 28 November) — took the Russians by surprise, but was not as successful as it could have been: the Russian air defences — those ‘protecting defenceless and peaceful air bases in Russia’, and supposed to counter F-35s, Rafales, EF-2000s and cruise missiles — have shot down one of Ukrainian drones that malfunctioned (because the booster didn’t separate, in turn increasing its radar echo by quite some). That was in the Kursk area, where another drone went on to hit something and cause a fire.

Even so, the other few drones that did get through hit Engels and Dygilevo as the ground crews of the VKS were in the process of refueling and re-arming their bombers. The best, known, result was scored by a drone that hit the ground some 30m short of a Tu-22M-3 that was in the process of being refueled at Dygilevo AB. The detonation set afire a fuel truck and badly damaged the wings and fin of the bomber — which, as can be seen from one of photos here — was loaded with at least one, probably two Kh-22 air-to-surface missiles. According to the Russians, three people were killed and five or six wounded. Apparently, the Kh-22s were not yet refueled, otherwise this one would go up in a significantly bigger conflagration…

Total result: at least one Tu-22M-3 was prevented from striking Ukraine and — under current circumstances — is probably out of action for the rest of this war. Additionally, there are unconfirmed reports that two Tu-95s have been damaged at Engels. Not perfect, but not bad either.



Of course, the Keystone Cops declared this for a ‘provocation’ and then ‘retaliated’ by flying their next mass-strike on the Ukrainian power grid. According to official Kyiv, between 14.30 and 15.30hrs local time, the VKS released:

- 38 Kh-101 and Kh-555 missiles from 8 Tu-95s,

- 22 3M54 Kalibrs from ships and subs in the Black Sea,

- 3 Kh-22s from Tu-22M-3s,

- 6 Kh-59s and one Kh-31P from Su-34s and Su-35s, and

- at least four S-300s (in ‘ballistic mode’).

The first wave approached Ukraine around 15.00hrs from the east. Four S-300s fired from the Belgorod area in direction of Kharkiv (targets in Lozovsky and Volchansky districts) were all claimed as shot down by Ukrainian air defences. Ukrainian SAMs in the Zaporizhzhya seem to have been activated as next, in reaction to multiple missiles approaching from south-east. Results unknown. One missile was then shot down in the Dnipropetrovsk area, and more were detected while approaching Kremenchuk, Vinnytsia, and Kirovgrad (overall, the OK East claimed 15 missiles as shot down).

In the north, nine out of ten missiles that approached the Kyiv area were shot down similarly, while in the north-east, up to 10 were shot down in the Poltava area (apparently including this one felled by a Flakpanzer Gepard).

Meanwhile, three missiles were detected approaching Mykolaiv: air defences opened fire and one explosion was heard over the city. ‘Several’ missiles then approached Odesa: one was claimed as shot down.



Overall, out of around 70 Russian missiles released, Ukrainians claimed over 60 as shot down. As usual, several Kalibrs were routed via Moldova, and one of Ukrainian V5V55 missiles (S-300 system) fired in return hit the ground in the Briceni area (strangely enough, Trump is not complaining about Ukraine shooting ‘at an ally’ this time…?). Those that came through have hit infrastructure facilities in Vinnytsia, Kyiv, Kirovgrad, Zaporizhzhya, Dnipropetrovsk, and Odesa (sub-station CHPP-2), causing black-outs in the Sumy, Mykolaiv, Kharkiv (partial black-out), Zhytomyr (partial black-out), and Odesa (partial black out), and water supply issues in Sumy, Zhytomyr, Zaporizhzhya, and Odesa. Of course, railway traffic was severely disrupted, too.



Moreover, escorting Russian interceptors claimed an Ukrainian Su-25 as shot down in the Yuryevka area, a MiG-29 in the Zverevo area, plus two Mi-8s in the Maryinka area. Once again, no evidence for any of these claims was released (at most, some claimed this Wagner-operated Mi-8, shot down by Ukrainians on 31 October, as ‘Ukrainian’….).

BATTLE OF DONBASS

The situation in south-eastern Ukraine is ‘standard’, so to say — which means that the Russians are attacking, relentlessly, though without much success, all the way from Dvorichna, north of Kupyansk, in the north-east, to Avdiivka in the south.

Kupyansk… as expected, the troops of the 423rd Motor Regiment (1st GTA), the 9th and 18th Motor Divisions (XI AC) have launched several counter-attacks on the ZSU positions along the R07 highway, back on 3 and 4 December. This punch did have some success in terms of reaching Novoselivske, on 4 December: ever since, the two parties are fighting inside this village. However, in turn, Ukrainians attacked from Kyslivka towards north, and seem to have secured 4–5 villages in the Ivanivka area.

Svatove….apparently, the Russians grouped something like

- 2 BTGs made up of troops from the 59th Tank Regiment, and 254th and 488th Motor Rifle Regiments,

- 1 BTG made up of troops of the 33rd and 55th Motor Rifle Brigades,

- 1,5 BTGs made up of troops from the 3rd and 24th Divisions, and

- 1 BTG from the 76th VDV Division

….to counterattack in direction of Neveskoye and Makiivka — with the result of the VSRF continuing its practice of re-supplying the ZSU with additional MBTs (including this intact T-90), and IFVs…

In that sense: those expecting ‘neutral reporting’ are free to show me similar videos of Ukrainian AFVs captured during the same clashes, of course.

Kremina…Ukrainians have meanwhile tracked a re-deployment of a BTG from the 106th VDV Division from Luhansk towards north, and were thus expecting the Russians to reinforce their efforts in the area north of Kremina. Thus, the Russian counterattack on Chernopopivka came as no surprise, even if its outcome is unclear as of yet (at least not to me). Inside Kremina: the 144th Division was, reportedly, reinforced by two weak, but ‘fresh’ tank companies (total of 19 MBTs).


Bakhmut…. This is what most of the town is looking like, nowadays. Mind: over 2,000 civilians — including some 300 children — are still living there (or trying to survive).

The situation remains critical for the ZSU, as all the possible reinforcements rushed there are still not in the line. The Russians continued pushing on Bilohorivka (where they seem to have lost some ground, the last two days), on Berestove, Yakovlivka, Soledar, and Bakhmutske. On the eastern side of Bakhmut, Wagner has reached the Patrice Lumumba Street, which is no good news — alone because it means not only the Russians, but the ZSU has suffered casualties, too.

South of Bakhmut, Wagner claimed the village of Opytne as captured — for the third time by now. Must be the reason why Ukrainian troops are patrolling the place… Seems, Surovikin is not checking maps, just rushing ever additional troops downhill, so the enemy can shoot at them, freely, from the hill on the opposite side….

….which reminds me that back in the 1980s, during the Iran-Iraq War, everybody was belittling the IRGC and what the Iraqis and then the West described as ‘human wave tactics’: the myth was that the Iranian commanders were pushing dozens of thousands of combatants ‘en masse’ into Iraqi minefields, and then kept on ‘pumping’ more men into the ‘battle’ until the Iraqis run out of ammunition…. Unsurprisingly, this led to the myth along which Iran alone suffered over 1 million killed I that war. Actually, the IRGC learned to infiltrate and then swarm Iraqi positions by night, overrunning even the best-protected positions in the open and flat semi-desert of western Khuzestan and south-east Iraq. The IRGC learned that: the Russians seem unable to learn any lessons at all. Well, except for Wagner, which is still much too small, and always quickly running out of steam, and thus can’t make that much difference….

Nowadays they have an additional problem: as announced already back in July-August, their UAVs are useless in the winter weather (plus, RUMINT has it that they have lost nearly all of their Orlan-10s). This means: the Russian commanders are ‘blind’, most of the time. They do not know where are Ukrainian positions, while — thanks to their UAVs — Ukrainians are tracking every of their moves. Unsurprising result is (nearly) always the same, no matter how many dozens of assaults is Surovikin ordering: like already during the high point of the Battle for Rubizhne, back in April-May, and then the Battle of Severodonetsk, back in June-July, they first send a ‘company’ of ‘useless cannon fodder’ forward (in Rubizhne and Severodonetsk, this was Separatist infantry): Ukrainians can’t ignore these approaching them, so they open fire. While the Russians thus suffer heavy losses, Ukrainians are exposing their positions. This is what is then exploited by Wagner to assault in a ‘more sophisticated’ fashion — and that at the time forward Ukrainian positions are getting short on ammunition because of engaging the reservists…

That’s what’s happening on the frontlines ‘around’ Bakhmut the entire day, hour after hour. Something like an ‘indirect’ confirmation not only for this tactics, but its murderous results is a video I’ve linked few days ago: a video shown a captured convict that served with Wagner. His story is simple: he was mobilised about 6 weeks ago. Five days before being captured, his BTG counted 500 troops. By the time he was captured, only two of them were still alive.

Elsewhere in that area: by now it’s clear that Wagner assaulted Kurdyumivka and Andriivka with the aim of punching further west and cutting the road T0504. Ukrainians claim Kurdyumivka as ‘contested’, but gauging by latest reports, according to which they are ‘counterattacking’ the place, I would consider it as ‘lost’, meanwhile.

Avdiivka….typical Russian ‘break-through’…. This time north of Avdiivka, in the area of Krasnohorivka and Vesele: they drive up the line of fire-contact, hit a mine (whether one planted by Ukrainians or by the Russians), people, body parts and wreckage are flying high, and whoever still can is running away… and when that is over, then the surviving Russians get hit by HIMARS, too. Similar can be said about Russian assaults on Vodyane, Pervomaiske, and Nevelske. That said, an Ukrainian counterattack on Pervomaiske was not particularly successful, either….


Further south… The Russians are in control over half of Marinka (at least), but the frontline stabilised as both sides are exhausted. Ukrainians have counterattacked Novomykhailivka, but that attack was stopped by the firepower of the Russian attack helicopters and artillery.

Zaporizhzhya…. Well, the way things are by now, it seems that the Russians actually ‘just withdrew’ some of units they need further east, but there was no ‘major Ukrainian offensive’, nor even any kind of a serious advance.

….think, that’s about that for today, folks.

[sumirprimus]

[sumirprimus]

evo opet traze po bijelom sveijtu municiju pogotov za 152 155 mm...
zar mi nismo dio njihovog nato programa, zar ne mogu samo doci i zahtijevati da se proizvodnja pjaca i usmjeri za ukrajinu?

[Maliodmene]

evo opet traze po bijelom sveijtu municiju pogotov za 152 155 mm...
zar mi nismo dio njihovog nato programa, zar ne mogu samo doci i zahtijevati da se proizvodnja pjaca i usmjeri za ukrajinu?

Rade nase firme u 3 smjene, samo sto sve ide preko Amerikanaca uglavnom

[statixx]

Pripremaju kupku.