Ukrajina

Glavne udare ukrajinske ofanzive očekujem na pravcima

Poll ended at 26/04/2023 10:03

Svatove-Starobilsk-Luhansk
20
9%
Kremina- Rubizhne - Severodonetsk - Luhansk
19
9%
Bakhmut- Alchevs'k - Luhansk
22
10%
Avdiivka/Marinka - Donetsk
21
10%
Vuhledar - Volnovaha - Mariupol
51
24%
Tokmak - Melitopol/Berdiansk
53
25%
Herson - Sevastopol
29
13%
 
Total votes: 215

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#145201 Re: Ukrajina

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Grean wrote: 08/02/2023 22:24
Optimus09 wrote: 08/02/2023 22:12 Gledam klip neki,Ukrajinci postavljaju zastitne mreze iznad artiljerije zbog dronova kamikaza.
Ima li to ucinka,jel neko upratio?
Procitah i ja to na Shitiju.


Btw, nevjerovatno kako Rusi uporno guraju, svakodnevna ofanziva prvo na Soledar a onda i Bahmut od kad, ima tri mjeseca bez prestanka cini mi se.
Najgore je što u tim ofanzivama nije učestvovala regularna ruska vojska, koliko Wagner. Osim što je dosta zaokupirao Ukrajince oko Bahmuta, Wagner je učinio još jednu bitnu stvar: omogućio je ruskoj vojsci predah i reorganizaciju. Ruska vojska praktički od oktobra i ofanzive oko Limana nije bila pod jačim pritiskom Ukrajinaca. Wagner im je dao 4-5 mjeseci da se pregrupišu, što je golem period. I sada vidimo rezultate toga, Rusi se skupljaju oko Kupjanska, Kremine, Zaporožja... i spremaju veliku ofanzivu. Nadam se da će Ukrajinci izdržati taj nalet, jer sada oni kupuju vrijeme dok ne dođu zapadni tenkovi i IFV-ovi.
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#145202 Re: Ukrajina

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Bofors 40 mm uskoro dolazi na kamionima
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#145203 Re: Ukrajina

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Vuhledar će ih skupo koštat
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#145204 Re: Ukrajina

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Ne znam na cemu su ali nevjerovatno kako su mirni s obzirom na situaciju. Ovo nisu neki pokupljeni sa ulice, ne djeluju tako.
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#145205 Re: Ukrajina

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Ne znam koliko je ovo tačno, ali kod Rusa je sve moguće, pogotovo da rade neku protutežu Wagneru.
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#145206 Re: Ukrajina

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Ovo se ne pravi zbog rata u Ukrajini već radi zaštite vlastite naftne imperije.
Očekivati je da i drugi isto urade.
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#145207 Re: Ukrajina

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ima jos nesto

roblee je obicno pouzdan izvor info. ruski mod kontrira wagneru da li je ovo pocetak kraja wagnera ili pocetak jednog bratoubilackog krvoprolica ostaje da se vidi.
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#145208 Re: Ukrajina

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Gandalf wrote: 09/02/2023 07:20

Vuhledar će ih skupo koštat
jebte i haj ti u ork armiju, ovi ne mare ni za saborce, nit ih kupe mrtve ranjene., sam oostavljaju i bjeze nazad ili idu dalje svejedno :-)
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#145209 Re: Ukrajina

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Troprstaš, Rašista-Neonacista Mangušev Lobanja iz mlađih dana neonacistašluka je Karminisan u Ukrajini!
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o jedinici koja je nadrljala...
dobrovoljacki bataljon alga... iz ruskog tatarstana. kako kazu ovde.
ove su ubacili u vatru 06.02 nakon sto su 155ta i 40ta pretrpile tolike gubitke da vise nisu bile sposobne izvodit daljnje operacije.
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geralt wrote: 08/02/2023 14:49 Krupan zajeb Ukrajinaca sjeverno od Bahmuta:



Rusi su napali tokom rotacije jedinica i iskoristili priliku da probiju front istocno od Blahodatne (iako su tamo Ukrajinci imali dobre pripremljene polozaje), te da zauzmu Krasnu Horu. Ukrajinci su izvrsili kontru i povaljali ih i zaustavili napad, ali su imali teske gubitke medju teritorijalcima koji su pregazeni tokom ruskog napada.

Tom Cooper daje vise detalja u zadnjem postu, ljut je na ukrajinsku komandu sto je na najkriticniji dio fronta poslala teritorijalce koji su zavaljeni: https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukrai ... 842d9c9e47
ni dolazak 93će brigade nije bogzna šta promijenio.

komandni kadar (od podoficira do oficira) na liniji soledar - bahmut je, najblaže rečeno, katastrofa.
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#145213 Re: Ukrajina

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Bossona wrote: 09/02/2023 08:29
Troprstaš, Rašista-Neonacista Mangušev Lobanja iz mlađih dana neonacistašluka je Karminisan u Ukrajini!
neljudski otpad.

mala je kazna kako je završio, trebao je da pati u najgorim mukama.
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#145214 Re: Ukrajina

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eyesburn wrote: 09/02/2023 09:09
geralt wrote: 08/02/2023 14:49 Krupan zajeb Ukrajinaca sjeverno od Bahmuta:



Rusi su napali tokom rotacije jedinica i iskoristili priliku da probiju front istocno od Blahodatne (iako su tamo Ukrajinci imali dobre pripremljene polozaje), te da zauzmu Krasnu Horu. Ukrajinci su izvrsili kontru i povaljali ih i zaustavili napad, ali su imali teske gubitke medju teritorijalcima koji su pregazeni tokom ruskog napada.

Tom Cooper daje vise detalja u zadnjem postu, ljut je na ukrajinsku komandu sto je na najkriticniji dio fronta poslala teritorijalce koji su zavaljeni: https://medium.com/@x_TomCooper_x/ukrai ... 842d9c9e47
ni dolazak 93će brigade nije bogzna šta promijenio.

komandni kadar (od podoficira do oficira) na liniji soledar - bahmut je, najblaže rečeno, katastrofa.
Pa srkneš onu kafu i odeš na rekreaciju.
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#145215 Re: Ukrajina

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točkiranje:

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#145217 Re: Ukrajina

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situacija do jučer u 16h:
Oskol-Kremina:
Rusi su napadali na ovom bojištu danima, odbacili su Ukrajince od ceste Kremina-Svatovo, došli blizu Kupyansku izbacujući skroz Ukrajince iz šuma sjeverno od grada. Na potezu Kremina-Dibrove su potisnuli Ukrajince dublje u šumu prema Donetsu. Niti jedno selo nisu uzeli, ali su došli nadomak više njih. Torske, Yampolivka, Nevske i Makiivka na jugu i Hryanykivka i Synkivka na sjeveru su sela do kojih su , ili u čiju blizinu su Rusi došli... ali kako sam rekao niti jedno nisu uzeli...

Donbas:
Oko Siverska Rusi stalno nešto napreduju, ali za niušta nema potvrde, sim za područje južno od Siverska. Bilohorivku još drže Ukrajinci, iako su tamo izgubili dosta položaja oko sela... dokle god Rusi ne napadaju Hryhorivku i Serebyanku ukrajinska linija nije probijena...

Oko Bakhmuta je loše. ukrajinci pišu da Rusi napreduju kroz četvrti obiteljskih kuća, znači sjever, istok i jug... Išla je priča da Rusi drže više od 1/3 Bakhmuta. To nije točno. Drže tek rubne dijelome i u najboljem slučaju 15-ak posto grada. Presjekli su cestu prema Slovyansku u sjevernom dijelu grada, izgleda i cestu prema Konstyantinivki, ali ne i cestu prema Chasiv Yaru. Ona je prohodna. Rusi već treći dan napreduju mic po mic zapadno od Blahodatnea i izgleda da su došli do sela Zalyznianske, vjerovatno su uzeli veći dio ukrajinskih položaja na brdima zapadno što je loše za Ukrajince. Krasna Hora i Paraskoviivka se još drže, ali uz ovaj ruski prodor su ta dva naselja u banani. Ukrajinski kontraudari ovdje konstantno izostaju, imam osjećaj da ukrajinci dovlače s mukom prikupljene trupe samo da zaustave ruski prodor.

U marinki Ukrajinci stoje loše, ali nisu iz njhe izbačeni. Još drže veći dio centra i oćekujemo da Pušilin uskoro objavi po 36. puta da su uzeli Marinku.

Ko Vuhledara je opet počelo žestoko. Ukrajince nabijene u gradu među i u zgradama dere rusko topništvo, Ruse u polurazrušenim kućicama i na otvorenom dere ukrajinsko topništvo. Tu i tamo Rusi pokušaju neki prepad tenkovima i oklopnjacima koji završi ajme majko. Ukrajince u Vuhledaru povremeno zaspe salva iz TOS-a i vrtimo se u krug.
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#145218 Re: Ukrajina

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eyesburn wrote: 09/02/2023 09:23 točkiranje:

Treba se odlučiti hoće li biti HIMARS ili Točka. Ovo je mađar prije mjesec dana navodio dronom i postavljao snimke.
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#145219 Re: Ukrajina

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REPORT
Ukraine Braces for Grisly Russian Offensive in the East
Russia is sending more bodies. Ukraine doesn’t have enough. And the tanks won’t arrive in time.
By Amy Mackinnon, a national security and intelligence reporter at Foreign Policy, and Jack Detsch, a Pentagon and national security reporter at Foreign Policy.

FEBRUARY 8, 2023, 3:49 PM
Ukraine is bracing for a grisly Russian offensive in the Donbas. Moscow has concentrated hundreds of thousands of troops in the country’s east, using brute-force tactics and human waves in a bid to chip away at the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ defenses.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/08/uk ... putin-war/
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Amid a recent surge in fighting, many military analysts believe the long-awaited Russian offensive is already underway and is expected to accelerate as the first anniversary of the invasion approaches.


Ukrainian officials estimate that Russian forces inside the country have surpassed the 300,000 mark following a recent mobilization effort that began in September of last year. Military analysts believe the figure may be slightly lower, but even more conservative estimates of Russia’s presence in Ukraine are significantly higher than the invading force that Russian President Vladimir Putin used to invade the country last February—and this time, they are highly concentrated in eastern Ukraine.

“We expect in the next 10 days a new, huge invasion,” a Ukrainian military official, speaking on condition of anonymity to talk about intelligence matters, told Foreign Policy. Over the weekend, Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov said that he expects a surge in Russian operations around the upcoming anniversary of the invasion on Feb. 24.
As Russian forces contended with steep losses in the first months of the war, the Kremlin announced a partial mobilization effort in the fall to bring in about 300,000 new troops. Despite the chaotic nature of the recruitment drive and the lack of training afforded to new recruits, the mobilization effort appears to have been a crude success by deploying enough troops to stall Ukraine’s advance—albeit with devastating losses for Russian forces. U.S. and Western officials now estimate that close to 200,000 Russian troops have been killed or wounded in battle, the New York Times reported last week.

The new recruits are significantly less well-equipped and trained than Moscow’s initial invading force dispatched over the borders in February of last year. In many instances, recruits have been used to perform human-wave attacks, a tactic popular with the Soviet Red Army, moving across open ground while coming under heavy fire from Ukrainian forces, said Dara Massicot, a Russian military analyst with the Rand Corporation.

Russia’s brute assaults, while not the most sophisticated, have taken a toll on the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which now has to contend with a much denser Russian presence. “A lot of those ingredients that were present that allowed successful Ukrainian counteroffensives up in Kharkiv, those ingredients are no longer present. The lines are thicker. They’ve mined them. They’ve dug in,” Massicot said.
Russia has also begun arming up and digging in for a coming offensive. The Ukrainian military estimates that Russia already has 1,800 tanks, 3,950 armored vehicles, 2,700 artillery systems, 810 Soviet-era multiple-rocket-launch systems such as Grad and Smerch, 400 fighter jets, and 300 helicopters ready for the new wave of attacks, the official said. The Pentagon has described Russian troops that have already been rushed to the battlefield to plug up defensive holes as “ill-equipped, ill-trained, [and] rushed,” according to a senior U.S. military official.

Some European officials believe that Russia’s mobilization never truly stopped after the September call-ups by the Kremlin. “Mobilization has not ended,” Vseviov said. “Mobilization is now continuing in Russia, but continuing quietly. They’re not making a fuss about it because of domestic considerations.”

Karolina Hird, a Russia analyst with the Institute for the Study Of War, said there has been a continued trickle of reports that suggest mobilization efforts are quietly continuing. “We’re seeing continued reports of people getting mobilization summonses or, for example, employers, enterprises, getting lists of employees that they need to send to the military registration office.”

The Pentagon believes that the Kremlin has begun sending in tens of thousands of troops to replace losses suffered from ongoing battles in the Donbas towns of Bakhmut and Soledar, but Kyiv believes that Putin could go even further, drafting more new troops around the Feb. 24 anniversary of the full-scale invasion.

“It’s much bigger than what took place in the first wave,” the Ukrainian military official said. “They don’t pay attention to any casualties or losses on the [battlefield].”

While there are no signs that Putin is backing down from his overall goal of seizing Ukraine in full, analysts and Ukrainian officials expect the brewing offensive to focus on eastern Ukraine amid a surge in fighting in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

“It seems to me that there probably has been some Kremlin guidance handed down to [Chief of the Russian General Staff Valery] Gerasimov. I think that includes, if they can, proceeding to the boundaries of Donetsk and Luhansk,” Massicot said, referring to two of the four Ukrainian regions the Kremlin pretended to annex in September.

But the fear that even poorly trained Russian units could overwhelm Ukrainian lines with human wave-style attacks has led to more urgent calls for Western weapons from Kyiv, despite nearly $9 billion in U.S. military aid pledges to Ukraine since December—almost 50 percent larger than Kyiv’s entire yearly prewar defense budget.

Yet some of the key weapons put forward by the United States to withstand the Russian salvo of bullets and bodies—such as Patriot missile defense systems, Bradley armored fighting vehicles, and Abrams main battle tanks—might not get into the country until March or April, at the earliest. And ground-launched small-diameter bombs might not get to Kyiv for up to nine months.

While Moscow was already showing signs of stepping up its efforts in the Donbas, many analysts believe the Russian military is seeking to advance as much as possible before the arrival of that new slate of Western military equipment.

“I don’t know how we’re going to withstand this counteroffensive. It’s going to be extremely difficult,” said Sasha Ustinova, a Ukrainian lawmaker. “We don’t have enough rounds, or I mean—anything. The tanks are going to be later. Everything is going to be later. By the time they send us Abrams, we will already have seen how the Russian counteroffensive goes.”
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#145222 Re: Ukrajina

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ruska ofanziva je pocela
bice kriticno narednih dana
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#145224 Re: Ukrajina

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op op kako kazu jel ovo prvi dokumentovani terminator bub?
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#145225 Re: Ukrajina

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Ako su ovo tačne brojke narednih nekoliko sedmica će biti žestoke. Ali ako Ukrajina uspješno slomi ovu ofanzivu rusi neće više imati čime da brane okupirane teritorije.

https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/rusi ... /230209040
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