Ukrajina

Glavne udare ukrajinske ofanzive očekujem na pravcima

Poll ended at 26/04/2023 10:03

Svatove-Starobilsk-Luhansk
20
9%
Kremina- Rubizhne - Severodonetsk - Luhansk
19
9%
Bakhmut- Alchevs'k - Luhansk
22
10%
Avdiivka/Marinka - Donetsk
21
10%
Vuhledar - Volnovaha - Mariupol
51
24%
Tokmak - Melitopol/Berdiansk
53
25%
Herson - Sevastopol
29
13%
 
Total votes: 215

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#104826 Re: Ukrajina

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GAU8 wrote: 11/08/2022 19:15
Jordan1961 wrote: 11/08/2022 14:49
Takva su ocekivanja ali veliko je pitanje da li ce ga svrgnuti zbog tiranije ili (kao Slobu) zbog neuspjesne invazije na Ukrajinu.
Isto tako, sta poslije? Hoce li se Rusija demokratizirati ili ce doci neko jos gori?
Ja mislim da se nece demokratizirati preko noci. Prije mi se cini da klize ka fasizmu.
Oni su u profasistickom rezimu manje-vise od pada komunizma. I to sa nuklearnim oruzjem.
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#104827 Re: Ukrajina

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madner wrote: 11/08/2022 19:13
geralt wrote: 11/08/2022 19:09
Nije HIMARS toliko skup za ono sto pruza, tih 500 komada im je cetvrtina godisnjeg vojnog budzeta (ovogodisnjeg, sljedeci ce biti 50% veci).

Skupa je municija za njega.
Koliko je to baterija i bataljona?

Bundeswehr je na 650000 vojnika imao 150.

Ali ok masta moze svasta.
Ako sovjetske GRAD-ove posalju u staro gvozdje kao sto vjerovatno hoce, oslobodili su posade za stotinjak HIMARS-a. Tri covjeka po HIMARSu, treba ti jos 1200 ljudi za posade i jos dva ili tri puta toliko za logistiku koja ce ih hraniti. Za armiju od 300 000 ljudi to nije nista.

Ko je kriv Bundeswehru kad su sirotinja za Poljake :D
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#104828 Re: Ukrajina

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Ne znam je li bila vijest na temi, ali Ukrajinci su oslobodili Dov'henke. To je ono famozno selo juzno od Izuma koje su Rusi proljetos napadali bukvalno dva mjeseca bez prestanka i na kojem su zijanili hiljade gubitaka.
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#104829 Re: Ukrajina

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Vrtio se neki podatak da je M31 raketa za HIMARS oko 300k $ na kraju nadjen je jedan članak gdje spominju cijenu od 130k po raketi, jeftiniji od Javelin ispada :D.
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#104830 Re: Ukrajina

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Bobi wrote: 11/08/2022 19:33 Vrtio se neki podatak da je M31 raketa za HIMARS oko 300k $ na kraju nadjen je jedan članak gdje spominju cijenu od 130k po raketi, jeftiniji od Javelin ispada :D.
GRAD potrosi $40-50 000 vrijednosti raketa po ispaljenju salve, a pitanje je hoce li ista pogoditi. Plus sto je logisticki zahtjevniji za red velicine.
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#104831 Re: Ukrajina

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Top muzika i dokumentarac tacno od prvog dana svi bili pesimisti i neverne tome. Bravo Ukri :bih:
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#104832 Re: Ukrajina

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Za one manje neverne ali u fazi iscekivanja prestanka pomoci ukrima. Nade nema pomoc ce
da stize dok je volje kod ukra za borbom. Znaci prioremte goozove će da boli :izet:
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#104833 Re: Ukrajina

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Sta ovo gadja
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#104834 Re: Ukrajina

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Formiran 4ti cecenski bataljin protiv ruskih cetnika
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#104835 Re: Ukrajina

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Jordan1961 wrote: 11/08/2022 19:18
GAU8 wrote: 11/08/2022 19:15

Ja mislim da se nece demokratizirati preko noci. Prije mi se cini da klize ka fasizmu.
Oni su u profasistickom rezimu manje-vise od pada komunizma. I to sa nuklearnim oruzjem.
Od pada komunizma oni zapravo nisu NISTA. Ustvari su medijska krinimalna kleptokratija koja imitira neko autoritarno i totalitarno drustvo.
Niti su prava autokratija niti pravo totalitarno drustvo.
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#104836 Re: Ukrajina

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sumirprimus wrote: 11/08/2022 19:43
Top muzika i dokumentarac tacno od prvog dana svi bili pesimisti i neverne tome. Bravo Ukri :bih:
Na drugom dijelu klipa muzika je iz Matrixa, Rob Dugan čini mi se, nevjerovatno je kako muzika odgovara klipu.

Danas su samo još prekodrinski mitomani ubijeđeni u putlerovu silnost i pobjedu.
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#104837 Re: Ukrajina

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Nakon udara HIMARS-a okupatroski rašisti s razlogom traže zamrzavanje rata na šest mjeseci jer su svjesni da je poraz neminovan.
Moscow seeks to freeze war to recoup losses and regroup, Ukrainian official says

https://news.yahoo.com/moscow-seeks-fre ... 00870.html
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#104838 Re: Ukrajina

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Washington Post o resursima Ukrajine koji su sada pod kontrolom Moskve. Zapanjujuće brojke.
After nearly six months of fighting, Moscow’s sloppy war has yielded at least one big reward: expanded control over some of the most mineral-rich lands in Europe. Ukraine harbors some of the world’s largest reserves of titanium and iron ore, fields of untapped lithium and massive deposits of coal. Collectively, they are worth tens of trillions of dollars.
Should the Kremlin succeed in annexing the Ukrainian territory it has seized — as U.S. officials believe it will try to do in coming months — Kyiv would permanently lose access to almost two-thirds of its deposits.
SecDev’s analysis indicates that at least $12.4 trillion worth of Ukraine’s energy deposits, metals and minerals are now under Russian control. That figure accounts for nearly half the dollar value of the 2,209 deposits reviewed by the company. In addition to 63 percent of the country’s coal deposits, Moscow has seized 11 percent of its oil deposits, 20 percent of its natural gas deposits, 42 percent of its metals and 33 percent of its deposits of rare earth and other critical minerals including lithium.
Since the invasion began in February, however, the Kremlin has steadily expanded its holdings. According to SecDev and Ukrainian mining and steel industry executives, it has seized: 41 coal fields, 27 natural gas sites, 14 propane sites, nine oil fields, six iron ore deposits, two titanium ore sites, two zirconium ore sites, one strontium site, one lithium site, one uranium site, one gold deposit and a significant quarry of limestone previously used for Ukrainian steel production.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... al-wealth/
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#104839 Re: Ukrajina

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Bossona wrote: 11/08/2022 19:56
Moscow seeks to freeze war to recoup losses and regroup, Ukrainian official says

https://news.yahoo.com/moscow-seeks-fre ... 00870.html
Dala baba dinar da uđe u kolo...
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#104840 Re: Ukrajina

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sta se ustvari desava oko ove nuklearke u zaporozju? jesu li je rusi vec zauzeli ili se vode borbe oko nje?
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#104841 Re: Ukrajina

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convict wrote: 11/08/2022 20:03 sta se ustvari desava oko ove nuklearke u zaporozju? jesu li je rusi vec zauzeli ili se vode borbe oko nje?
I zasto grataitaju sami sebe ..mislim ako je vec drze :?
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#104842 Re: Ukrajina

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Čitalac wrote: 11/08/2022 19:56 Washington Post o resursima Ukrajine koji su sada pod kontrolom Moskve. Zapanjujuće brojke.
After nearly six months of fighting, Moscow’s sloppy war has yielded at least one big reward: expanded control over some of the most mineral-rich lands in Europe. Ukraine harbors some of the world’s largest reserves of titanium and iron ore, fields of untapped lithium and massive deposits of coal. Collectively, they are worth tens of trillions of dollars.
Should the Kremlin succeed in annexing the Ukrainian territory it has seized — as U.S. officials believe it will try to do in coming months — Kyiv would permanently lose access to almost two-thirds of its deposits.
SecDev’s analysis indicates that at least $12.4 trillion worth of Ukraine’s energy deposits, metals and minerals are now under Russian control. That figure accounts for nearly half the dollar value of the 2,209 deposits reviewed by the company. In addition to 63 percent of the country’s coal deposits, Moscow has seized 11 percent of its oil deposits, 20 percent of its natural gas deposits, 42 percent of its metals and 33 percent of its deposits of rare earth and other critical minerals including lithium.
Since the invasion began in February, however, the Kremlin has steadily expanded its holdings. According to SecDev and Ukrainian mining and steel industry executives, it has seized: 41 coal fields, 27 natural gas sites, 14 propane sites, nine oil fields, six iron ore deposits, two titanium ore sites, two zirconium ore sites, one strontium site, one lithium site, one uranium site, one gold deposit and a significant quarry of limestone previously used for Ukrainian steel production.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... al-wealth/
cemu cudjenje kad je osnova svakog rata pljacka
i sta mislis cime ce platit ovu milijardersku pomoc?
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#104843 Re: Ukrajina

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Mrvice_ba wrote: 11/08/2022 18:35 Sve se topi po twitovima kod orka, ali teritorija jok. Ukrajinci nisu nista povratili.
Moram se sloziti s tobom, i kod njih je selo gore selo dole.

Ove postepene cvoke iz noci u noc Ruse bole i razgale srce normalnim ljudima kad procitaju na Twitteru, ali ne mijenjaju bitno stanje na frontu. Unistis im jedno skladiste municije, eto za par dana voza sa novom municijom. Unistis im S-300 radar, za sedam dana stize novi. Srusis most, ubrzo nikne ponton ili se popravi sruseni. Izbacis im jednu jedinicu iz stroja, rotiraju je drugom.

Za uspjesnu akciju se moraju koncentrisati artiljerija, dronovi, MRLS-ovi, avijacija i helikopteri na jednom sektoru fronta, sprziti sve sto se moze sprziti za dan, najvise dva, i onda krenuti u juris sa 3-5 puta vecim lokalnim snagama dok su jos osamuceni i dok nisu dovukli rezerve.
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#104844 Re: Ukrajina

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https://youtu.be/oreTFhWqQJ8

Zanimljiv kanal. I sto me iznenadilo dosta mladih javno izrazilo misljenje protiv rata i vlasti. Mada vecina izbjegava govorit protiv vlasti.
I sto je je jos zanimljivo, ovo je u urbanoj sredini. Uradili slican video u ruralnoj sredini totalna suprotnost. Tu su svi za rat i podrzavaju agresiju.
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#104845 Re: Ukrajina

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geralt wrote: 11/08/2022 19:26 Ne znam je li bila vijest na temi, ali Ukrajinci su oslobodili Dov'henke. To je ono famozno selo juzno od Izuma koje su Rusi proljetos napadali bukvalno dva mjeseca bez prestanka i na kojem su zijanili hiljade gubitaka.
Ja sam to čitao prije par dana i pitao ovde ima li neka potvrda za to i niko mi ništa ne odgovori. Nadam se da je tačna vijest.
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#104846 Re: Ukrajina

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Zumbul2 wrote: 11/08/2022 20:41
geralt wrote: 11/08/2022 19:26 Ne znam je li bila vijest na temi, ali Ukrajinci su oslobodili Dov'henke. To je ono famozno selo juzno od Izuma koje su Rusi proljetos napadali bukvalno dva mjeseca bez prestanka i na kojem su zijanili hiljade gubitaka.
Ja sam to čitao prije par dana i pitao ovde ima li neka potvrda za to i niko mi ništa ne odgovori. Nadam se da je tačna vijest.
Eh pa bilo vise puta na forumu da je oslobodjeno 93 brigada ga oslobodila
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#104847 Re: Ukrajina

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Spit_fire wrote: 11/08/2022 20:06
convict wrote: 11/08/2022 20:03 sta se ustvari desava oko ove nuklearke u zaporozju? jesu li je rusi vec zauzeli ili se vode borbe oko nje?
I zasto grataitaju sami sebe ..mislim ako je vec drze :?
Rusi grade liniju da odvcikaju centralu od Ukrainske mreze. Ukrainci im stavljaju do znanja da nece to prihvatiti.
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#104848 Re: Ukrajina

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#104849 Re: Ukrajina

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madner wrote: 11/08/2022 20:59
Spit_fire wrote: 11/08/2022 20:06

I zasto grataitaju sami sebe ..mislim ako je vec drze :?
Rusi grade liniju da odvcikaju centralu od Ukrainske mreze. Ukrainci im stavljaju do znanja da nece to prihvatiti.
Pa dobro al ako su ruski viojnici u elektrani sto ovi pucaju na svoje
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#104850 Re: Ukrajina

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Opet brana

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