Ukrajina

Glavne udare ukrajinske ofanzive očekujem na pravcima

Poll ended at 26/04/2023 10:03

Svatove-Starobilsk-Luhansk
20
9%
Kremina- Rubizhne - Severodonetsk - Luhansk
19
9%
Bakhmut- Alchevs'k - Luhansk
22
10%
Avdiivka/Marinka - Donetsk
21
10%
Vuhledar - Volnovaha - Mariupol
51
24%
Tokmak - Melitopol/Berdiansk
53
25%
Herson - Sevastopol
29
13%
 
Total votes: 215

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#88501 Re: Ukrajina

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lajkujMe wrote: 24/05/2022 12:21
Black swan wrote: 24/05/2022 12:08 bolje RS nakon 3 dana rata nego nakon 3 godine

inače
treba strijeljati izdajnike koji su predali atomske bombe

Cisto da se razumijemo, proizvodnja Atomske bojne glave uopste nije toliko teska. Sta je tesko je doci do Uranija koji se vrlo striktno kontrolise to jest kontrola vadjenja ruda i prodaja iste.
I da bi dobio uraniji za Atomsku trebaju ti sofisticirane centrifuge.
S obzirom da ih je Iran napravio pod Sankcijama vjerujem da i UA moze.

Samo sto je stvar sto se UA odrekla tog oruzja jer su dobili garancije o suverinitetu i sto je opasno drzati takvo oruzje.
Pogotovo 90tih kad je korupcija bila kao dobar dan.

Ali da UA sad dobije 100 atomskih ne znam da li bi to natjeralo Ruse na povlacenje vec su u Ratu.
Samo bi podstaklo Nuklearni obracun


To s povlacenjem RSa se ne slazem.

Mi smo poslije rata izgubili vise ljudi upravo zbog nakrdanog Ustava nego zbog samo rata.

Populacija nam je ispod 3 miliona

UA ne smije ako zeli sebi dobro dugorocno dozvoliti bilo kakve RS i ne smije dozvoliti trajnu okupaciju ostalih dijelova UA.

Ovo je klasicni osvajacki rat i UA ih mora unistiti totalno
Sada je kasno ali da su imali prije sukoba to bi bila druga priča.
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#88502 Re: Ukrajina

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jbo atomke, nema labavo, braćo ukri zbit redove, i u kontru, vi ste nam najjaca karta i sta god da planirate, pocnite :D
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#88503 Re: Ukrajina

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Kirilo Budanov, načelnik Glavne sigurnosne uprave pri ukrajinskom ministarstvu odbrane, kaže da do prekretnice u ratu može doći tek u avgustu, kada će vojska imati dovoljne količine naoružanja i opreme. „U ovom momentu katastrofalno nam nedostaje teško naoružanje“, ističe Budanov. On je, logično, optimista po pitanju krajnjeg ishoda pa će, kako kaže, ukrajinska vojska do kraja godine "barem ući na teritoriju Krima".

https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2022/05/24/7348122/
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#88504 Re: Ukrajina

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#88505 Re: Ukrajina

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E sad ne znam, ovo vec postaje domino efekat citav Istocni Donbas pada.

Ako sam dobro razumio jos jedna cesta je slobodna za promet ali je i ona pod udarom artiljerije.
15 km razmak samo.

Ruje bi Teoretski mogli zavrsiti okruzivanje za dan-dva

Ne valja nikako
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#88506 Re: Ukrajina

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Spoiler
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u kremini kazu 56 ljudi poginulo u rusevinama...nakon ruskog agresorskog bestijalnog bombardovanja :-)
ovi ne zale i milost ne pokazuju :-)
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#88507 Re: Ukrajina

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Prvi voz s Ukrajinskim zitom otisao za Litvaniju.

Njemacka ima neki plan da rjese isporuke zita vozovima.
Makar tako da pomognu
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#88508 Re: Ukrajina

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lajkujMe wrote: 24/05/2022 12:29 E sad ne znam, ovo vec postaje domino efekat citav Istocni Donbas pada.

Ako sam dobro razumio jos jedna cesta je slobodna za promet ali je i ona pod udarom artiljerije.
15 km razmak samo.

Ruje bi Teoretski mogli zavrsiti okruzivanje za dan-dva

Ne valja nikako
to ti kazem, panika kad uleti i pocne pustat linija ide i sto treba i sto ne treba. ako ne ustabile liniju..
na bahmutu i gore na kramatorsku ih moraju zaustavit..
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#88509 Re: Ukrajina

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evo malo pozitivnog Kima :)
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#88510 Re: Ukrajina

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nil hauer je danas tica zlosutnica nesto ko nas madner hehe :D
nile neka te za danas, izgubi vezu sa starlinkom :lol:
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#88511 Re: Ukrajina

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Neil Hauer
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Artillery hitting northern outskirts of Bakhmut now

ovi fakat ko oni iz got u zavrsnoj sezoni kad su prilazili :lol: :-)
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#88512 Re: Ukrajina

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Donbas izgleda gotov. Kakva fula ukrajinskog generalstaba. Oni samo nek se spremaju i treniraju.
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#88513 Re: Ukrajina

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Meni ovo sve vise lici na povlacenje UA a ne na wow napredak Rusa.

Moguce da je komanda procjenila da ne vrijedi drzati Severodonetsk i Lyschansk.
Ako je tako Rusi ce dobiti novu pobjedu.

Ali ce UA stabilizovati frontu a usput nece biti okruzeni sa tri strane kao sto je sad slucaj u Severodonetsk dzepu.

Inace komanda smiruje situaciju procitajte tekst

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#88514 Re: Ukrajina

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Image

Ovako bi mogla izgledati nova linija
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#88515 Re: Ukrajina

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A čuj. Povlačenje je teško izvesti bez masakra. Ali nije nemoguće.
Isto tako Rusi dok zauzimaju teritorij su izvan rova, na cesti, na livadi... preko minskih polja.
Veliki im se nered moze napraviti ako se planira fino, a ne u panici.
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#88516 Re: Ukrajina

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Pomjeranja od 6 maja

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#88517 Re: Ukrajina

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Mrvice_ba wrote: 24/05/2022 12:41 Donbas izgleda gotov. Kakva fula ukrajinskog generalstaba. Oni samo nek se spremaju i treniraju.
malo manje citaj anam one, njima je svakako sve to vec gotovo.
takticki dobro stoje, al na duze staze, ruje ovo ne mogu dobit nikako, ako ameri ostanu uz ukre i ako ukri budu imali volje za borbom i otporom.
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#88518 Re: Ukrajina

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The next 1-2 weeks will be key. We must exhaust the occupier, inflict maximum losses on him for the success of our further counteroffensive

The Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass are now holding a defense, which has its purpose, first of all - the depletion of enemy resources. Departure from certain positions will later be compensated by counterattacks and counterattacks, "the military expert said.

Unfortunately, few people understand the tactics and strategies of defensive warfare, and therefore panic in - believe me - a completely empty place.

"I will give the example of Chernihiv and Kyiv regions, Sumy, Poltava and Mykolayiv regions. It was there that this tactic worked perfectly, despite the fact that large areas of the region were temporarily occupied. In Donbass, the situation seems worse, as it lasted for 3 months, while the above-mentioned areas were liberated within a month. But it is logical, "says Oleksandr Kovalenko.

At present, all the resources of the Russian occupiers, which were previously in Chernihiv and Kyiv regions, Sumy, and even Mykolayiv, are concentrated on the Donbass bridgehead.

"Therefore, the process of depletion of the enemy and its subsequent displacement will be longer," said a columnist for the "Information Resistance" group. "The most important thing should be understood - now the situation is completely under the control of the Armed Forces and any activity of the enemy - this is only a temporary, situational phenomenon."

Reserve Colonel Oleg Zhdanov claims that the Russian troops have overwhelmed the advance in the Donbass and in the southern regions. In the Donetsk and Luhansk directions, after 4 weeks of fierce fighting, the enemy managed to advance a maximum of 15-20 kilometers in the counted directions. With plans to "surround everything" and "defeat everyone".

"There is no success there. Moving a few kilometers during the week is not a success, but a temporary tactical success. Four weeks of continuous offensive action. In four weeks, 20 kilometers of advance - you can not even estimate the pace of the offensive operation. If it can be called that, "said a military expert.

The withdrawal of the Armed Forces from Popasna was a tactical step to preserve personnel and occupy more advantageous positions for defense. However, the Russian army cannot advance all the time, and now the Luhansk direction has de facto become the only one where they are trying to attack.

"Even taking into account the fact that we left Popasna, we did not leave because we were kicked out. There is nothing to defend. And all the fortifications were destroyed. And to keep the personnel, we went to the next line of defense. But the offensive potential of the enemy is not infinite - in fact, there is only one direction where they are still trying to attack, "- said Mr. Zhdanov.

In other areas: "Russian troops are either regrouping, or trying to gain a foothold on the borders they have reached, or retreating, as in the Kharkiv direction, where we are trying to counterattack their positions" - so almost daily informs the General Staff.

According to the military expert, the situation is stabilizing the front. The Armed Forces will soon completely eliminate the attacking potential of the enemy.

"I think we will do it in the near future - and then there will be an operational pause, which each side will try to use to prepare for the offensive / counteroffensive. We have the advantage that we have a delay only in the receipt of equipment, and they do not have time to mobilize and remove equipment from storage, "- said Oleg Zhdanov.

"In general, the enemy was able to create tension only in such relatively local areas as Severodonetsk-Lysychansk and Popasna. He has concentrated a lot of effort there and is trying to achieve at least some success, "said Mykhailo Samus , deputy director of the Center for Army Research, Conversion and Disarmament .

Now these are the hottest spots on the map, where, without exaggeration, the fiercest battles are taking place.

“How successful are these efforts of the Russian Federation? It is very difficult to say anything concrete now, because the situation is dynamic, everything is decided on the battlefield in these minutes and days: yes, the enemy is advancing, but Ukrainian troops are actively defending, opposing him in all possible ways, including any attempts to force the Seversky Donets. , - added the expert.


taj prevod, ukri su prilicno samouvjereni da mogu ovaj tempo izdrzat jos 1 2 hefte. hajde de.
2 hefte to ej14 dana, puta 24h to je jos samo 336 sati cca...al ko broji. :zzzz: :chmoljava:
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#88519 Re: Ukrajina

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Imace Ukrajinci i volje i morala, ako ih ne budu zavaljivali i ostavljali. Moraju vjerovati komandi i to se postize na način da se ljudski životi čuvaju.
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#88520 Re: Ukrajina

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sumirprimus wrote: 24/05/2022 12:47
Mrvice_ba wrote: 24/05/2022 12:41 Donbas izgleda gotov. Kakva fula ukrajinskog generalstaba. Oni samo nek se spremaju i treniraju.
malo manje citaj anam one, njima je svakako sve to vec gotovo.
takticki dobro stoje, al na duze staze, ruje ovo ne mogu dobit nikako, ako ameri ostanu uz ukre i ako ukri budu imali volje za borbom i otporom.
Nisam ih otvorio ako vjeruješ kako su poceli uspjesi orka. Zeludac me boli jer znam kakvo je veselje tamo.
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#88521 Re: Ukrajina

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obecanje ludom radovanje, imaju se kad radovat. poslece biti standardno kmecanje, izdaja i ko nas ber zavadi :oops:
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#88522 Re: Ukrajina

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Orcs are pushing towards #Ocheretyne at N from #Avdiivka, to take the city in a semi-circle, there are heavy clashes

mogo bi i ovaj xaba na foe :lol: :-)
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#88523 Re: Ukrajina

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Problem nas ovdje na forumu je sto mi iz iskustva nismo navikli na pomjeranje linije od 20km ili 50km cak.

Lako je drzati liniji na planini nije na ravnici.

Opet cu ponoviti ono sto govorim citavo vrijeme, Rusi da osvoje citav Donbas opet ce izgubiti

Strategija UA je jendostavna izmori istrosi unisti sto vise Rusa oslabi ih do maksimuma odbranom.
Kad dodje taj momenat protiv napad.

Nemojte zaboraviti UA sem Marijupolja jos nema ni jednu brigadu da je out of action, i ove sto su dobile po nosu su odmah popunjene rezervama.

Pokusava se sacuvati sto vise vojnika, teritorija dugorocno nije problem.

Za nadati se da do Augusta krece plac iz Moskve.
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#88524 Re: Ukrajina

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što neki kažu, ništa nije slučajno,

Rusi se zbog teških gubitaka počelo gledati kao luzere a uz to uvijek ide i neko razumijevanje, a UA vojsku kao terminatore, izuzev Mariupolja.

vrijeme je za psihološki povrat na agresor-žrtva
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#88525 Re: Ukrajina

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Guverner Luhanska: Sad je prekasno za evakuaciju civila
Serhij Haidai, ukrajinski guverner regije Luhansk, koja se nalazi pod žestokim napadima ruskih snaga, objavio je upozorenje tisućama stanovnika grada Severodonjecka. Tvrdi da je prekasno za evakuaciju civila u trenutku kad ruske snage pokušavaju zauzeti grad.

Severodonjeck je, navodi Guardian, okružen ruskim snagama s tri strane. Rusi pokušavaju potpuno opkoliti grad u kojem, vjeruje se, se oko 15.000 civila skriva po skloništima.

Ruske snage pokušavaju odsjeći ukrajinske opskrbe linije kontrolom ključnih cesta prema zapadu.

"U ovom trenutku neću reći 'bježite, evakuirajte se'. Sad kažem da ostanete u skloništima", objavio je Haidai na svom Telegram kanalu, pa dodao: "Intenzitet granatiranja je takav da nam ne dozvoljava da mirno okupimo ljude i dođemo po njih"

"Neprijatelj provodi ofenzivu operaciju kako bi potpuno okružio Lisičansk i Severodonjeck. Sad uz pomoć artiljerije napada u smjeru Toškivke i Ustinivke u blizini Lisičanska", napisao je Haidai.

Jučer je ukrajinsko Ministarstvo obrane objavilo da ruske pokušavaju probiti ukrajinsku obranu kod mjesta Popasne u namjeri da dopru do Bakmuta, ključnog mjesta koje služi kao zapovjedni centar za dobar dio ukrajinskih snaga na tom području.
Lisičansk i Severodonjeck je pitanje dana mozda i hefte.
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