ALZIRSKA GRUPA STIGLA U SARAJEVO

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Braca su stigla u Sarajevo te su blindiranim vozilima prebaceni na nepoznatu lokaciju. Clanovima porodica nije bilo dozvoljeno da kontaktiraju sa njima.
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[simpozijum delirijum]

izgleda tacno jer tako pise i washington post !
"Three Algerian Detainees Set for Transfer to Bosnia

By Peter Finn
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 16, 2008; A02



The Bush administration has decided to transfer three Algerian detainees to their adopted homeland of Bosnia, a decision that partially complies with the order of a federal judge who said last month that five Algerians should be released "forthwith," rejecting government allegations that the men were dangerous enemy combatants.

But Lakhdar Boumediene, the Algerian whose name is associated with a landmark Supreme Court decision regarding the legal rights of those held at the naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, remains in limbo despite the U.S. District Court ruling and the imminent release of his countrymen.

Administration officials and other sources, who declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the issue, said yesterday that authorities at the base have begun to prepare for a transfer, a process that includes moving detainees to a pre-release facility at Guantanamo and having them undergo exit interviews with the International Committee of the Red Cross. Three have had exit interviews in recent days, sources said.

Those three men are expected to be flown out of Guantanamo today, weather permitting in Sarajevo.

A Pentagon spokeswoman declined to comment, citing operational concerns. The ICRC also declined to comment.

The State Department has been negotiating with the Bosnian government over the transfer of the five men, administration officials said, but authorities in Sarajevo have agreed so far only to accept those detainees who hold Bosnian citizenship -- Mohamed Nechle, Mustafa Ait Idir and Hadj Boudella. The governments continue to discuss the fate of two other Algerians, Saber Lahmar, a former legal resident of Bosnia, and Boumediene, who was stripped of his citizenship during a court proceeding in Sarajevo.

The men were seized by U.S. troops in Sarajevo in early 2002 despite the fact that a Bosnian court said there was insufficient evidence to sustain charges that they were planning to blow up the U.S. Embassy there. In an action coordinated with the Bosnian government, the Algerians were detained by U.S. troops as they left a detention center.

The men were flown to Guantanamo Bay, where they have been imprisoned since, even though the Chamber for Human Rights, the internationally chaired top human rights body in Bosnia, called on the United States to leave four of the suspects in the country. Boumediene subsequently sued President Bush for the right to challenge his detention in federal court, an action forbidden by the Military Commissions Act. In June, the Supreme Court ruled for Boumediene, granting his request for habeas corpus in a 5 to 4 decision.

Hundreds of Arab fighters fought during the 1992-1995 war in Bosnia, a former Yugoslav republic, and some stayed behind after the war and married Bosnian women. In the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, some American officials raised concerns that the country was a haven for Islamist extremists.

In October, the Justice Department withdrew without explanation the embassy bombing allegation, but continued to charge that the men planned to travel to Afghanistan to attack U.S. forces.

U.S. District Judge Richard J. Leon said last month that the evidence against the men came from one unnamed source in a classified document, which he described as a "thin reed." Leon was the first judge to rule that the government had insufficient evidence to hold a Guantanamo detainee.

Leon ruled, however, that the continued detention of a sixth Algerian and former Bosnian citizen, Belkacem Bensayah, was proper. U.S. officials said Bensayah had regular contact with senior military aides to Osama bin Laden and logged dozens of phone calls to Afghanistan after Sept. 11 and before his arrest by Bosnian authorities in 2001.

Leon urged the government to "end this process" and not to appeal his decision to release the other five Algerians.

Lawyers for the men welcomed the imminent release of the three detainees but said the government should quickly secure a commitment from Bosnia that Boumediene and Lahmar can return to Sarajevo as well.

"We're encouraged, but the court said this should happen for all five men, and I'm hoping that the United States is doing what the court instructed, which is taking all diplomatic and legal steps to get all of these men home," said Robert Kirsch, a lawyer at the firm of WilmerHale, which represented the six men in federal court.

The firm plans to appeal the continued detention of Bensayah.

Separately, in an interview with ABC News, Vice President Cheney said that Guantanamo should be kept open until "the end of the war on terror," a time, he noted, that "nobody can specify."

"I think everybody can say, we wished there were no necessity for Guantanamo. But you have to be able to answer these other questions before you can do that responsibly," Cheney said. "And that includes, what are you going to do with the prisoners held in Guantanamo? And nobody yet has solved that problem."

Cheney also for the first time acknowledged playing a central role in approving the CIA's use of controversial interrogation tactics, including "waterboarding," which simulates drowning.

"I was aware of the program, certainly, and involved in helping get the process cleared," he told ABC.

Cheney also said he believes that the waterboarding of some alleged al-Qaeda detainees at CIA secret prisons was appropriate despite the widespread condemnation of the practice as torture.

Staff researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report."

[pure_love]

e koji je to bezobrazluk nisu im dali ni da djecu vide,,evo na dnevniku prikazuju djecu kako placu

[damirm]

Dobro su nam dosli. Manje nepravde, nadam se vise povjerenja.

[in33sa]

A zasto Alzirci nisu otisli u Alzir

[SiSaJuMe]

A zasto Alzirci nisu otisli u Alzir

Zato sto su alzirci bosanci. A kako su postali bosanci e to je druga tema.

[pure_love]

A zasto Alzirci nisu otisli u Alzir

mozda zato sto imaju BH drzavljanstvo,mozda zato jer su im djeca ovdje?..daj bjezi tamo primitivac jedan bezosjecajni

[bosss]

A zasto Alzirci nisu otisli u Alzir

Zato sto su alzirci bosanci. A kako su postali bosanci e to je druga tema.

Vidi sad ? A danas me jedan ubjeđivao kako sandžaklije ne mogu biti bosanci.

[damirm]

A zasto Alzirci nisu otisli u Alzir

A valjda hoce da se izljube sa multietnicnim vodjom.

[Vozdra raja :-)]

Pravda ipak pobijedi!!
Na sramotu Lagumdziji!!

[Jara]

Pravda ipak pobijedi!!
Na sramotu Lagumdziji!!

nihove žene izjaviše da nije na sramotu Lagumdžiji... nego na sramotu nekom drugom... da ih nije neko natjer'o da tako kažu?

[Vozdra raja :-)]

Pravda ipak pobijedi!!
Na sramotu Lagumdziji!!

nihove žene izjaviše da nije na sramotu Lagumdžiji... nego na sramotu nekom drugom... da ih nije neko natjer'o da tako kažu?

Ma svi su krivi, novinari, gradjani, mediji, opozicija...,ma svi, jedino nije kriv onaj koji ih je izrucio -Lagumdzija!! Zar je neko mogao i pomisliti da iza toga stoji Zlatko. Sram ga bilo!
P.S. Nadja Dizdarevic ipak ima drugacije misljenje, samo se njoj ne daje mediski prostor, posebno ne u Zlatkovim medijima!

[pure_love]

Pravda ipak pobijedi!!
Na sramotu Lagumdziji!!

nihove žene izjaviše da nije na sramotu Lagumdžiji... nego na sramotu nekom drugom... da ih nije neko natjer'o da tako kažu?

rece nije na sramotu samo lagumdzije,,ne izvrci rijeci,a on svakako snosi najvecu odgovornost,,,,to je Dizdarevic vise puta rekla..a i ostale zene

[Jara]

Pravda ipak pobijedi!!
Na sramotu Lagumdziji!!

nihove žene izjaviše da nije na sramotu Lagumdžiji... nego na sramotu nekom drugom... da ih nije neko natjer'o da tako kažu?

rece nije na sramotu samo lagumdzije,,ne izvrci rijeci,a on svakako snosi najvecu odgovornost,,,,to je Dizdarevic vise puta rekla

eh, da mi je snimak... ovo boldirano rekla ona ili je to tvoj stav?

[SiSaJuMe]

A zasto Alzirci nisu otisli u Alzir

Zato sto su alzirci bosanci. A kako su postali bosanci e to je druga tema.

Vidi sad ? A danas me jedan ubjeđivao kako sandžaklije ne mogu biti bosanci.

Moze,. kako da ne., U bosni jedino bosanci moraju biti bosnjaci,hrvat,srbi, romi i "neuvrsteni"
A uvozni 1992-1995 kalibri su postali bosanci., E sad ako je tvoj sandzakhajirlija uvezen 1992-1995 i obratio se pravim 'ljudima"
moguce je da je posto orginale bosanceros. Al nije to tema.,

[Vozdra raja :-)]

Stvarno ne mogu da vjerujem da ima tako naivnog naroda koji jos uvijek vjeruje sranju koje dolazi iz kuhinje bracnog para HadziLagumdzic!!
Nije ni cudno sto nam je drzava u ovakvom stanju kad smo toliko naivni!!

Poslednji u nizu crnih bisera ovog bracnog para je izjava vrlog Lagumdzije, "da nisam isporucio Alzirce doslo bi do novog gradjanskog rata i nestanka BiH"!
Ova njegova crna izjava je problematicna iz nekoliko razloga!!

1. Zlatko kaze da bi doslo do "novog gradjanskog" rata!! A mene zanima kada je to bio prvi gradjanski rat?? Da nije mozda onaj u periodu 92-95??

2. Lagumdzija ovom svojom izjavom pokusava da svoju sramotu i kukavicluk preokrene u svoju korist izjavama tipa kako je on spasio Bosnu od nestanka!

3. U slucaju da Alzirci nisu bili izruceni, mozda bi doslo do blagog zahladjenja odnosa BiH-USA, ali ni do kakvog novog rata nebi doslo jer to Amerika nebi dopustila! Jer ako bi dopustila novi rat time bi sebi napravila jos daleko veci problem i mozda stvorila jos puno veci broj ljudi sa duzom bradom! A pogotovo ne doslo do nestanka BiH, jer to ne bi svijet dozvolio, a i jer bi mi pet stali u oruzanu odbranu drzave!

Mislim da ovakve bljuvotine, ljigavstina i papanluk mogu doci jedino iz usta Lagumdzije i njemu najdraze emisije!

[pure_love]

Nove vijesti... FTV u dnevniku javlja da su braca trenutno u SIPA-i na provjeri identiteta i da ce nakon toga biti pusteni kuci.Clanovima porodica nije bilo dozvoljeno da kontaktiraju sa njima

[jeza u ledja]

Ako je imalo sta da im se sudi ili da im se oduzimaju papiri ili slicno - to je trebalo uraditi u Sarajevu. Ovo sto je uradjeno, a s obzirom da danas znamo kakvi su uslovi bili u Guantanamu je kriminalno.
Nijedna drzava ne treba da izrucuje svoje gradjane drugoj, bez obzira o kome se radi.

Al sta ces kad je kod nas Amerikanci i EU mogu da rade sta hoce.

[JThomas]

Nove vijesti... FTV u dnevniku javlja da su braca trenutno u SIPA-i na provjeri identiteta i da ce nakon toga biti pusteni kuci.Clanovima porodica nije bilo dozvoljeno da kontaktiraju sa njima

vjerovatno je i to lagumdžija kriv, a ne ne d'o bog sadašnja vlast...

[Vozdra raja :-)]

Sigurno da ni trenutna vlast nije uradila dovoljno za ove ljude, ali to nikako ne skida moralnu mrlju sa Lagumdzije koji ih je izrucio a onda izvalio kako je time spasio BiH od novog gradjanskog rata i nestanka!

[HAVANA]

Sigurno da ni trenutna vlast nije uradila dovoljno za ove ljude, ali to nikako ne skida moralnu mrlju sa Lagumdzije koji ih je izrucio a onda izvalio kako je time spasio BiH od novog gradjanskog rata i nestanka!

Dosadan si više sa Lagumdzijom,eno ti BRAĆA došla , idi maši im.

[trinaesti]

7 godina torture nizasto!

[Vozdra raja :-)]

7 godina torture nizasto!

Kako nizasto???
Pa time je Bosna spasena od novog gradjanskog rata i nestanka! Kak' ne kuzis...

[Dado dijasporitus]

Pravda ipak pobijedi!!
Na sramotu Lagumdziji!!

nihove žene izjaviše da nije na sramotu Lagumdžiji... nego na sramotu nekom drugom... da ih nije neko natjer'o da tako kažu?

Ma svi su krivi, novinari, gradjani, mediji, opozicija...,ma svi, jedino nije kriv onaj koji ih je izrucio -Lagumdzija!! Zar je neko mogao i pomisliti da iza toga stoji Zlatko. Sram ga bilo!
P.S. Nadja Dizdarevic ipak ima drugacije misljenje, samo se njoj ne daje mediski prostor, posebno ne u Zlatkovim medijima!

Guze nas svi, od Srba I Hrvata do Amerikanaca I Rusa a tamo neki Alzirci se nasli da se konsultuju sa Talibanom. Ako su zaista dosljedni BiH drzavljani onda trebaju I da znaju sta je politicki ispravno za ovu drzavu a ne da nam svima igraju o glavi. Kazna jeste bila preostra ali kao da je Lagumdzija ili bilo ko drugi mogao ista da uradi po tom pitanju.

[trinaesti]

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