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#1626 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by Mustang1 » 07/10/2020 20:17

Nema sanse da cu ja ovo drzati uspravni. Pa do plafona ode :lol:


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#1627 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king » 07/10/2020 20:17

Nemoj poredit PC s konzolom, fujj, imam gaming pc i gadi mi se na njega :lol:


Moj ide horizontalno svakako je disk verzija.

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#1628 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by nepass1 » 07/10/2020 20:29

arnes_king wrote:
07/10/2020 16:30
REDDEVILS wrote:
07/10/2020 16:26
Sad samo valja dočekati 19 Novembar 2020 😂
Ma ide to lagano, priblizava se :D Ja se sve suzdrzavam od hajpa i da ne mislim na to ali sony ovak baci neku novost i onda opet belaj :lol:
I ja isto, kontam da zaboravim datum koji je. Stremim ka 19.10. pa ono jos mjesec :D

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#1629 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

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#1630 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king » 07/10/2020 21:08

Kazu xbox series x je tih ali se jako grije.


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#1631 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by ferratilis » 07/10/2020 21:14

Zar ti nije dovoljno sto PS5 ima solidan build, ne moras odmah bacati hejt na konkurenciju. :lol: Btw taj lik je poznat po clickbait naslovima, a cinjenice izvlaci iz guzice. Vise puta su ga uhvatili u lazi. Citao sam i ja da se grije, ali cekam da neko pouzdan potvrdi, kao DF.

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#1632 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king » 07/10/2020 21:20

ferratilis wrote:
07/10/2020 21:14
Zar ti nije dovoljno sto PS5 ima solidan build, ne moras odmah bacati hejt na konkurenciju. :lol: Btw taj lik je poznat po clickbait naslovima, a cinjenice izvlaci iz guzice. Vise puta su ga uhvatili u lazi. Citao sam i ja da se grije, ali cekam da neko pouzdan potvrdi, kao DF.
Haha ma naleti na internetu pa se cudim. Inace volim pratiti napredak svih strana i drago mi gledati o tome :D


Ja cekam df na ovaj ps5 teardown :D

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#1633 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by mc-twin » 07/10/2020 23:05

Kako je mocno uradio.Cojk bas ima dara i talenta.Trebao bi ga Sony zaposliti. ;-)

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#1634 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king » 08/10/2020 08:28

Evo dosao mi i e-mail u vezi novih trofeja i jedna stavka mi se posebno svidja.

"Praćenje trofeja za konzolu PS5™
Koliko si blizu osvajanja toga tako vrijednog Zlatnog trofeja?

Pogledaj što još moraš učiniti prije nego što se oglasi taj tako zadovoljavajući zvuk osvajanja uz potpuno novi sustav praćenja trofeja u podržanim igrama na konzoli PS5™.
"

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#1635 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by ferratilis » 08/10/2020 08:50

Covjek nije ostario ni sekunde :D
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#1637 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king » 09/10/2020 19:06

Evo detalja o backwards kompatibilnosti i tacan spisak 6-7 igara sa PS4 koje nece raditi na PS5, nikad cuo za njih :D

https://support.playstation.com/s/artic ... en_US&lan=

The PS5™ console is backward compatible with the overwhelming majority of PS4™ games. That means an amazing collection of thousands of PS4 games can be played on your PS5 console.

PS4 games playable on PS5 consoles
The overwhelming majority of the 4,000+ PS4 games are playable on PS5 consoles. Select PS4 games will benefit from the PS5 console’s Game Boost, which may make PS4 games run with a higher or smoother frame rate. Although many PS4 games are playable on PS5 consoles, some functionalities that were available on the PS4 console may not be available on PS5 consoles. In addition, some PS4 games may exhibit errors or unexpected behavior when played on PS5 consoles.Before purchasing add-ons to play with your PS4 games on PS5 consoles, please try to boot and play your PS4 games on your PS5 console to see if you are happy with the play experience.Please note, playing PS VR games on a PS5 console requires a PlayStation VR headset, a PS camera (sold separately from PS5 console) and a PS camera adaptor (no purchase required). Always update your PS5 console to the latest version of the system software.


 
PS4 only games
While the majority of PS4 games are playable on PS5 consoles, below is a list of PS4 games that are playable on PS4 only. On PlayStation™Store, PS4 games that are not playable on the PS5 console will be marked with ‘Playable on: PS4 only’.

PS4 only games:
DWVR
Afro Samurai 2 Revenge of Kuma Volume One
TT Isle of Man - Ride on the Edge 2
Just Deal With It!
Shadow Complex Remastered
Robinson: The Journey
We Sing
Hitman Go: Definitive Edition
Shadwen
Joe's Diner


Playing PS4 game discs on a PS5 console with a disc drive

Insert the PS4 game disc. You may need to download an update.Select the game hub from your Games home.You will need to keep the disc inserted each time to play the game.PS4 game discs can’t be used with the PlayStation®5 Digital Edition. 


Transfer digital games from a PS4 console to a PS5 consoleYou can transfer digital games and saved data from a PS4 console to a PS5 console using WiFi data transfer. You can access PS4 games on a PS5 console directly from a PS5 extended storage drive. 

Install a PS4 digital game on a PS5 consoleSelect game library from your Games home.Select the game you want to play.If you haven't already downloaded the game, select Download.The game will install automatically. Depending on the game, you may have the option to copy and play a portion of the game right away. 
 
Upgrade eligible PS4 games to the PS5 version
You may have the option to upgrade your PS4 game to the digital PS5 version. Please visit the page below for more information.
Upgrade eligible PS4 games to the PS5 version


Compatible controllers on PS5 consolesThe DualSense™ wireless controller, DUALSHOCK™4 wireless controller and PlayStation officially licensed third-party gamepad controllers will work on PS5 consoles with supported PS4 games. Specialty peripherals, such as officially licensed racing wheels, arcade sticks, and flight sticks, will work with PS5 games and supported PS4 games.Both the PS Move Motion Controller and the PlayStation VR Aim Controller will work with supported PS VR games on PS5 consoles.For the best experience, use a DUALSHOCK 4 wireless controller when playing PS4 games and PS VR games on a PS5 console. PS5 games are not compatible with the DUALSHOCK 4 wireless controller.To adjust the strength of controller vibration on PS5 consoles, go to Settings > Accessories > Controllers > Vibration Intensity. The Platinum and Gold Wireless Headsets, as well as third-party headsets that connect via USB port or audio jack, will work on PS5 consoles (the headset companion app is not compatible with PS5 consoles). 
 
PS5 backwards compatibility limitationsThe SHARE menu cannot be displayed during PS4 gameplay on PS5 consoles. You can take screenshots and images by pressing the create button on your DualSense wireless controller to show the create menu. Additionally, you can use the button shortcuts to start/stop video recording or to save screenshots as follows:Single press the create (DualSense) or SHARE button (DUALSHOCK4) to show the create menuPress and hold the create (DualSense) or SHARE button (DUALSHOCK4)  to take a screenshotDouble press the create (DualSense) or SHARE button (DUALSHOCK4) to start and stop video recording manually. The HD Camera is not compatible with PS4 games – please connect a PlayStation Camera via a PlayStation®Camera adaptor.HDR is automatically switched on for PS5 consoles. To turn off HDR, go to Settings > Screen and Video > Video Output > HDR and select SDR.The PS4 tournaments feature is not supported on PS5 consoles.In-Game Live from PlayStation is not supported on PS5 consoles. PS5 consoles do not support the PS4 Second Screen app or game companion apps.

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#1638 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by ferratilis » 09/10/2020 19:45

Mislio sam da ce biti dosta duza lista igara koje nece raditi. Dobar su posao odradili. :thumbup:

Jos kad bi mogli otkljucati FPS na vecini PS4 igara, bilo bi super. :)

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#1639 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king » 09/10/2020 21:36

Evo jos info.

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/09 ... -answered/

When the PlayStation 5 launches this November, more than 99 percent of the 4000+ games available on PS4 will be playable on PS5. We know you have questions about how PS4 games will work on PS5, so here is a quick overview on some common questions we’ve seen from the PlayStation community.

What console generation games are supported with PS5’s backward compatibility feature?
We are focused on the huge catalog of games on PlayStation 4, and we’re pleased that more than 99% of PS4 games will be playable on PS5 on day one. This includes games that have defined the PS4 generation – from critically acclaimed PlayStation exclusives like The Last of Us Part II and Ghost of Tsushima, to blockbuster hits from our third-party partners.

What is the difference between playing PS4 games on the PS5 Digital Edition console, versus the PS5 console with the Ultra HD Blu-ray disc drive?
The gaming experience on both models will be the same. However, how you access the content to play will differ:

PS5 Digital Edition

You will be able to play digital versions of your compatible PS4 games on the PS5 Digital Edition console. These will be compatible PS4 digital games you have already purchased, or plan to purchase, via PlayStation Store on PS4, PS5, web or PlayStation mobile app.
Since there is no disc drive, you won’t be able to play your PS4 disc-based games on the PS5 Digital Edition.
PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-ray disc drive

You can play digital versions of your compatible PS4 games you downloaded from PlayStation Store on PS4, PS5, web or PlayStation mobile app.
You can also use physical PS4 game discs.
When you sign in to PS5 with your account for PlayStation Network, you will automatically see your library of played PS4 content through the menu.

Be sure to keep the PS5 console updated to the latest system software update available, and apply all available game patches to the game.

What is the PS4 game experience like on PS5?
PS4 titles get even better on PS5. Select PS4 titles will see increased loading speeds on the PS5 console, and will also leverage Game Boost, offering improved or more stable frame rates. Some titles with unlocked frame rates or dynamic resolution up to 4K may see higher fidelity. Additionally, PS4 games will also take advantage of some of PS5’s new UX features, but more to come on that later.

Are games from PlayStation VR backward compatible?
Yes, PlayStation VR games are included among the thousands of PS4 games that are playable on PS5. Please note that playing PS VR games on a PS5 console requires a PS VR headset, DualShock 4 wireless controller or PlayStation Move controller(s), and PS Camera (for PS4), which are sold separately from the PS5 console. Also, the PS5 HD Camera is not compatible with PS VR on PS5. You’ll need to use the PS Camera (for PS4), and the PS Camera adaptor (no purchase required), to use PS VR on PS5.

What about PS4 games on PS Now and PS Plus?
Backward compatible PS4 games included in PS Plus or PS Now will run on PS5.

Can I stream PS4 games on PS5?
Yes, Remote Play from PS4 to PS5 and PS Now streaming are supported. The benefit of streaming is that you can save your storage space on PS5. Please note that PS4 games will not leverage PS5’s Game Boost through streaming.

How do PS4 game transfers and game saves work between the two consoles?
You can transfer digital games, game data, and game saves from a PS4 console to a PS5 console using LAN cables, or by connecting wirelessly (WiFi). If you’ve already stored PS4 games and game data in the external USB storage device connected to your PS4, you can bring them over to PS5 with that external USB storage device. And if you are a PS Plus member, you can also sync PS4 game saves on PS5 through cloud storage.

Please note that the ability to transfer game saves between a PS4 version and a PS5 version of the same game is a developer decision, and will vary title by title for cross-generational games.

For Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, when players decide to upgrade from PS4 to PS5 their game saves will transfer.* Sackboy: A Big Adventure also will support game save transfers from PS4 to PS5 in an update that will be delivered shortly after the release of the game.* We’ll share additional details on both games closer to launch.

How will I know which PS4 games aren’t playable?
Games that are only playable on PS4 will be noted on PlayStation Store as playable on “PS4 only.” We have a list of games that are only playable on PS4, along with additional information on backward compatibility here: playstation.com/ps5-backwards-compatibility

*If players originally purchase a PS4 game disc, the PlayStation 5 with an Ultra HD Blu-ray disc drive is required to upgrade to the PlayStation 5 version of the game and transfer their saves over.

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#1640 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by ferratilis » 09/10/2020 22:24

Ovome se radujem :thumbup:

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#1641 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by miikaa77 » 10/10/2020 15:29

Moze li iko ko se razumije u televizore dat komentar moze li ovaj tv dat ruke za ps5 ili ga je vrijeme mijenjat: https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-49UJ635V

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#1642 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king » 10/10/2020 15:38

miikaa77 wrote:
10/10/2020 15:29
Moze li iko ko se razumije u televizore dat komentar moze li ovaj tv dat ruke za ps5 ili ga je vrijeme mijenjat: https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-49UJ635V
Dovoljno dobar, uvijek bolje ima ali ce posluziti, bitno je da je 4K, za HDR ne znam da li je onaj ko fol ili pravi.

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#1643 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by miikaa77 » 10/10/2020 15:42

arnes_king wrote:
10/10/2020 15:38
miikaa77 wrote:
10/10/2020 15:29
Moze li iko ko se razumije u televizore dat komentar moze li ovaj tv dat ruke za ps5 ili ga je vrijeme mijenjat: https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-49UJ635V
Dovoljno dobar, uvijek bolje ima ali ce posluziti, bitno je da je 4K, za HDR ne znam da li je onaj ko fol ili pravi.
Ma hajde dobro je, nek je okej meni dovoljno za sad jer nije da sam u situaciji da uzimam nesto novo. Hvala na odgovoru.

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#1644 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by Son1 » 10/10/2020 17:06

Ima li ikakvih info za account share izmedju ps4 i ps5?

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#1645 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by DonieBrasco » 10/10/2020 23:30

Vi koji planirate PS5, koji tacno planirate ovaj sa diskom ili digitalni ?

Kako kod nas u BiH ide prodaja fizickih igara naspram skidanja online, sta je pogodnije, koje bi bile mane ili pogodnosti ovogo modela sa diskom ?

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#1646 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king » 11/10/2020 09:41

DonieBrasco wrote:
10/10/2020 23:30
Vi koji planirate PS5, koji tacno planirate ovaj sa diskom ili digitalni ?

Kako kod nas u BiH ide prodaja fizickih igara naspram skidanja online, sta je pogodnije, koje bi bile mane ili pogodnosti ovogo modela sa diskom ?
Ja sam narucio disk verziju. Iste su konzole po svemu osim sto jedna ima podrsku za fizicke diskove dok druga nema. To i jeste prednost ovog modela sa disk citacem, sto nisi ogranicen samo na digitalne igre tako da je svakako ona nagodnija i bolja jer imas vise mogucnosti za igre. Vjerujem da ce se kod nas lakse i preprodati poslije ove disk verzije od digitalnih.

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#1647 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by un1ted » 11/10/2020 09:47

Osim kolekcionarstva I potencijalne prodaje /zamjene igrica, koja je to još prednost disk verzije?

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#1648 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king » 11/10/2020 10:15

HellBell wrote:
11/10/2020 09:44
arnes_king wrote:
11/10/2020 09:41
DonieBrasco wrote:
10/10/2020 23:30
Vi koji planirate PS5, koji tacno planirate ovaj sa diskom ili digitalni ?

Kako kod nas u BiH ide prodaja fizickih igara naspram skidanja online, sta je pogodnije, koje bi bile mane ili pogodnosti ovogo modela sa diskom ?
Ja sam narucio disk verziju. Iste su konzole po svemu osim sto jedna ima podrsku za fizicke diskove dok druga nema. To i jeste prednost ovog modela sa disk citacem, sto nisi ogranicen samo na digitalne igre tako da je svakako ona nagodnija i bolja jer imas vise mogucnosti za igre. Vjerujem da ce se kod nas lakse i preprodati poslije ove disk verzije od digitalnih.
Igre koje na disku koštaju od 80-90 eura i misliš da će većina kupovati fizičke verzije nego digitalne koje budu i jeftinije, doduše većina bankovnih kartica iz BiH bude odbijena kada kupuješ kodove i slično, tako da ne vidim perspektive za PS5 kod nas!
Nisam jos vidio te igre koje kostaju 80-90€, nove na disku sam kupovao po 100KM, rijetko vise. Odigras, prodas dalje ili zamjenis. Ili kupis polovnu izigras se i opet zamjena ili prodaja. Digitalno iako nisu podrzane nase kartice ipak nije problematicno i PS4 smo na isti nacin koristili. US account + paypal i kupujes kodove cak jeftinije nego sto bi te doslo na store, ev isti slucaj sa PS+, na store kosta 60$ a mi kupimo sa eksternog sajta za 30$.


Ne sanjarim, nego zivim :) Moj novac i ja ga dajem za sta ja zelim, ti ako mislis drugacije onda radi drugacije ali ostavi mene. Ti neki novi sad dezurni da nas ucis u sta da trosimo novac i vrijeme?

Pojma nemas o tematici a pametujes, svi smo ovdje imali PS4 pa nikakvih problema, sta je skupo, sta je lutrija? Pa kupovao sam hit igre pa me izlazile po 10-15KM na snizenjima. Ima i shareovanje igara, nema sta nema, ali onaj ko pojma nema on misli da je to sve komplikovano i da to nikom ne treba :lol:

I normalno da disk verzija ima prednost jer ima sve sto ima digitalna + mogucnost igranja igara sa diska. Nit si ogranicen na store, a dodatno imam i poznanika/prijatelja koji imaju konzolu pa mogu posuditi igru od takvih bez troska.
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#1649 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by arnes_king » 11/10/2020 10:22

HellBell wrote:
11/10/2020 10:19
arnes_king wrote:
11/10/2020 10:15


Nisam jos vidio te igre koje kostaju 80-90€, nove na disku sam kupovao po 100KM, rijetko vise. Odigras, prodas dalje ili zamjenis. Ili kupis polovnu izigras se i opet zamjena ili prodaja. Digitalno iako nisu podrzane nase kartice ipak nije problematicno i PS4 smo na isti nacin koristili. US account + paypal i kupujes kodove cak jeftinije nego sto bi te doslo na store, ev isti slucaj sa PS+, na store kosta 60$ a mi kupimo sa eksternog sajta za 30$.ž


Nego jesi li ti dobar? Preispitaj se malo, prvo pojma nemas o TV uredjajima i sta je ustvari HDMI 2.1, drugo sta tebe briga ko za sta daje pare. Ne sanjarim, nego zivim :) Moj novac i ja ga dajem za sta ja zelim, ti ako mislis drugacije onda radi drugacije ali ostavi mene. Ti neki novi sad dezurni da nas ucis u sta da trosimo novac i vrijeme?
So, here's the deal: these are the US and Euro prices of the launch line up that's available to buy dayone:

Demon’s Souls – $69.99/€79.99
Destruction All Stars - S$69.99/€79.99
Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales - $49.99/€59.99
Marvel’s Spider-Man: Mile Morales Ultimate Edition - $69.99/€79.99
Sackboy A Big Adventure - $59.99/€69.99

https://www.gamesradar.com/how-much-do-ps5-games-cost/
Da, spiderman cu nabaviti prvi dan i kosta 49,99$, a ja cu ga platiti prvi dan okruglo 50KM. Demons Souls ne znam da li cu nabavljati, ali i ako budem kupit cu ga za 60-70KM, jer ima nacina, a ako nista kupiti ga nekad kad bude na snizenju ili popola sa nekim.

Disk verzije cijene padaju takodjer, i brzo se pojave polovne igre koje se mogu veoma jeftino naci.

Taman i da zelim placati pune cijene od 100€ po igri, to je moja stvar, moj novac i moj zivot, nemas ti nista s tim i ne petljaj se.

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#1650 Re: PlayStation 5 - all about

Post by moa » 11/10/2020 10:27

arnes_king wrote:
11/10/2020 10:22
HellBell wrote:
11/10/2020 10:19
arnes_king wrote:
11/10/2020 10:15


Nisam jos vidio te igre koje kostaju 80-90€, nove na disku sam kupovao po 100KM, rijetko vise. Odigras, prodas dalje ili zamjenis. Ili kupis polovnu izigras se i opet zamjena ili prodaja. Digitalno iako nisu podrzane nase kartice ipak nije problematicno i PS4 smo na isti nacin koristili. US account + paypal i kupujes kodove cak jeftinije nego sto bi te doslo na store, ev isti slucaj sa PS+, na store kosta 60$ a mi kupimo sa eksternog sajta za 30$.ž


Nego jesi li ti dobar? Preispitaj se malo, prvo pojma nemas o TV uredjajima i sta je ustvari HDMI 2.1, drugo sta tebe briga ko za sta daje pare. Ne sanjarim, nego zivim :) Moj novac i ja ga dajem za sta ja zelim, ti ako mislis drugacije onda radi drugacije ali ostavi mene. Ti neki novi sad dezurni da nas ucis u sta da trosimo novac i vrijeme?
So, here's the deal: these are the US and Euro prices of the launch line up that's available to buy dayone:

Demon’s Souls – $69.99/€79.99
Destruction All Stars - S$69.99/€79.99
Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales - $49.99/€59.99
Marvel’s Spider-Man: Mile Morales Ultimate Edition - $69.99/€79.99
Sackboy A Big Adventure - $59.99/€69.99

https://www.gamesradar.com/how-much-do-ps5-games-cost/
Da, spiderman cu nabaviti prvi dan i kosta 49,99$, a ja cu ga platiti prvi dan okruglo 50KM. Demons Souls ne znam da li cu nabavljati, ali i ako budem kupit cu ga za 60-70KM, jer ima nacina, a ako nista kupiti ga nekad kad bude na snizenju ili popola sa nekim.

Disk verzije cijene padaju takodjer, i brzo se pojave polovne igre koje se mogu veoma jeftino naci.

Taman i da zelim placati pune cijene od 100€ po igri, to je moja stvar, moj novac i moj zivot, nemas ti nista s tim i ne petljaj se.
Odakle Vam lova za pleju? :D

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